Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 10.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: Unacceptable on February 02, 2015, 07:52:53 PM

Quote from: Blockhunter on February 02, 2015, 08:18:37 AM

Anyone concidered BA is minersource?
It's just so strange how they were getting orders before direct customers with early orders before the affiliate program ----- Just sayin
That gives them the out they needed to not give any compensation the hole thing just stinks of scam lies
Thoughts.......
Does minersource use this ploy to exit this with everyone's money along with some of their cronies ?

Very interesting theory...I know bobsag3 was involved with the Drillbit boards:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/drillbit-system-miners-avalon-range-available-now-10499-266235

Which were assembled/designed or whatever by BlackArrow & it turned into a fiasco very quickly,late delivery & borked boards.

What are the odds Huh

There is a trail of tears on that and the Technobit boards and some other deals that went south as well. Pretty sure Black Arrow isn't the only company claiming / insinuating that Minersource didn't pay for hardware they took possession of. Minersource was cozy with more than one fabricator they are not Black Arrow.

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Quote from: ninjaboon on February 06, 2015, 10:36:52 AM

Quote from: ninjaboon on January 25, 2015, 02:19:39 AM

still waiting for BA to host my X3. they are just too slow.

so my hosted BA X3 unit just started hashing away. finally....

I pretty sure its been hashing away it just wasn't for you sir . Most likely want keep hashing for you either if we see a jump in BTC .

indeed that is possible; BA could have been using our miners all the while.

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Quote from: ninjaboon on January 25, 2015, 02:19:39 AM

still waiting for BA to host my X3. they are just too slow.

so my hosted BA X3 unit just started hashing away. finally....

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Quote from: Giulini on February 06, 2015, 05:24:46 AM

finally got my two x1, real decent machines, look good, nice android 4.2.2 screen, running very quiet,
nevertheless no chance to reach ROI anymore, so thinking for myself: wasn`t it another worthwhile experience in my life ?
:-)

If you paid fiat currency, your backing that block chain tech will kill it and you will make 'profit' if that comes true. Let's face it, fiats lost 97%,of its value since the 70's so btc is already a winner. Its not even a competition.

If you paid btc for the miner, you've lost but class it as a lesson learnt ;-)

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finally got my two x1, real decent machines, look good, nice android 4.2.2 screen, running very quiet,
nevertheless no chance to reach ROI anymore, so thinking for myself: wasn`t it another worthwhile experience in my life ?
:-)

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Quote from: Blockhunter on February 02, 2015, 08:18:37 AM

Anyone concidered BA is minersource?
It's just so strange how they were getting orders before direct customers with early orders before the affiliate program ----- Just sayin
That gives them the out they needed to not give any compensation the hole thing just stinks of scam lies
Thoughts.......
Does minersource use this ploy to exit this with everyone's money along with some of their cronies ?

They're definitely closely involved, that's for sure!

that was my gut feeling so I thought I'd throw it out here....

Unacceptable

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Quote from: Blockhunter on February 02, 2015, 08:18:37 AM

Anyone concidered BA is minersource?
It's just so strange how they were getting orders before direct customers with early orders before the affiliate program ----- Just sayin
That gives them the out they needed to not give any compensation the hole thing just stinks of scam lies
Thoughts.......
Does minersource use this ploy to exit this with everyone's money along with some of their cronies ?

Very interesting theory...I know bobsag3 was involved with the Drillbit boards:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/drillbit-system-miners-avalon-range-available-now-10499-266235

Which were assembled/designed or whatever by BlackArrow & it turned into a fiasco very quickly,late delivery & borked boards.

What are the odds Huh

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Quote from: Blockhunter on February 02, 2015, 08:18:37 AM

Anyone concidered BA is minersource?
It's just so strange how they were getting orders before direct customers with early orders before the affiliate program ----- Just sayin
That gives them the out they needed to not give any compensation the hole thing just stinks of scam lies
Thoughts.......
Does minersource use this ploy to exit this with everyone's money along with some of their cronies ?

Whether they are the same, or they partnered on this scam, I don't see a difference. The fact minersource then scammed their scam partner is hilarious and should be a cautionary tale for anyone who is in any way affiliated with them.

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Anyone concidered BA is minersource?
It's just so strange how they were getting orders before direct customers with early orders before the affiliate program ----- Just sayin
That gives them the out they needed to not give any compensation the hole thing just stinks of scam lies
Thoughts.......
Does minersource use this ploy to exit this with everyone's money along with some of their cronies ?

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Quote from: eXOBeX on January 31, 2015, 01:12:08 AM

Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 09:15:31 AM

I know this is kind of rheotorical, but I do try to leave accurate feedback and modify it if things change.
I left the following negative feedback for blackarrow awhile ago.

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Have failed to deliver to most of their customers, delete any critical posts from a self-moderated thread, and refuse to deal with their issues.

Blackarrrow recently left me negative feedback stating the following.

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blackarrow -12: -3 / +0(0) 2015-01-10 15.00000000 Accusations are false. We have honored our contract to all our customers.

Would you the customers say blackarrow has honored their contracts with you?

Price match with competitors at time of shipping: FAIL
Compensation units: FAIL

I'd say the contract is yet to be honoured.

Clearly they have not. Miners also sold with 5 days free hosting. not provided. and as you say, price matching not honored. People asking about compensation many times. Very strange BlackArrow has time to post false trust but not type 2 sentences on compensation issue.

Black Arrow is a lying piece of shit. Post false trust ratings for many people, claims they are paid by competition. He admits in online article that there is no proof of that. Probably does not like Mr. Teal trust because of trusted rating for Mr. Teal. Like small baby, he is mad if people post truth about him and his shit company, so he cries and then posts lies in their feedback.

Maybe it is better, BlackArrow, to keep your word and your contract with your customers instead of crying like baby girl when someone says something mean to you. You have lied to everyone. Company has not honored agreements. All customers have lost most if not all money after all of your big talk. Now YOU post negative trust on these people. Maybe better to just shut your fucking mouth, asshole.

They shipped my product. It came with issues with the software but a factory reset on the android OS fixed it. I'm up and hashing a 56ghz. Half of what they said it would.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Our website is currently down due to HDD catastrophic failure.

We have been waiting for our ISP to bring it back online for the last 24 hours. 12 hours ago they brought it back online but the mysql database is corrupted. While we tried to restore it from the backup we lost ssh access and we are unable to login anymore. We are waiting for our ISP to restore the access.

We apologize for the inconvenience. We are doing our utmost to bring it back online but as the server is in Germany we cannot fix it ourselves and must wait for our ISP to fix it.

Thank you for your patience.

Your website is down due to your continous failure to run a company in a proper manner.

A serious company would have just spun up a new vps with a backup of your website and went on with shipping their paperweights to their investors.

Now, please get your act together and make good for all the crap you have sent our way.

And, with the amount of scamming and lying you guys have done to the community. You should call the police and lawyers and ask them to look into your own little "business" instead.

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Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 09:15:31 AM

I know this is kind of rheotorical, but I do try to leave accurate feedback and modify it if things change.
I left the following negative feedback for blackarrow awhile ago.

Quote

Have failed to deliver to most of their customers, delete any critical posts from a self-moderated thread, and refuse to deal with their issues.

Blackarrrow recently left me negative feedback stating the following.

Quote

blackarrow -12: -3 / +0(0) 2015-01-10 15.00000000 Accusations are false. We have honored our contract to all our customers.

Would you the customers say blackarrow has honored their contracts with you?

Price match with competitors at time of shipping: FAIL
Compensation units: FAIL

I'd say the contract is yet to be honoured.

huryde

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My order was shipped and arrived today 1/30/2015 Original Order date 11/25/2013

Product arrived and boots to BA logo with background animation and hangs. Sometimes the Android alien with a [!] coming out of his belly shows up after a reboot.

Trying to submit a ticket to BA but their website is still struggling. Please PM if you can help.

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I agree with the above; tracking labels mean nothing, delivery proof does.

Also, blackarrow failed to address why some user's new equipment had previous login dates from 6-8 months ago.

noddy2000

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Tracking Numbers are worthless

BlackArrow has send me an email with tracking number back in October/November but this packet was never shipped!
The number was 3 months in the DHL system with status:

"A Label was printed"

and now it is deleted by DHL

Glad someone can use their brains ;-)

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Quote from: Biomech on January 29, 2015, 03:51:56 PM

But banter aside, it appears they have not honored the vast majority of their contracts, and have half assed it on the rest.

Less than 5% of orders is yet to be delivered. If you have not received your order, please PM me your order number.

Thankfully, I was too broke to get into this mess. But I have watched avidly, and frankly, sir, your word has been less than trustworthy. I'd need a LOT more proof before I change or even modify my opinion. In the time it took you to sort of begin shipping half working units, two generations of Asic equimpement came and went, Scrypt asics became commonplace, and your device became an expensive ~~incendiary device~~ ~~boondoggle~~ paperweight. The only way anyone will break even on your machines, assuming no exploding capacitors or other pyrotechnic events, is if they have access to free electricity.

This is such a far cry from your bold promises when begging for our money as to constitute fraud in and of itself. But as I said, I was too poor to get in on it. So while I am disgusted and appalled by how you have behaved, I personally have no stake in it, nor any need for legal recourse. But companies that act in this manner are a blight on the world of commerce, and particularly damaging to the fledgling cryptocurrency movement. You should be ashamed. Were I in your shoes, I would live in a house with no mirrors, because I could not face that man.

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Less than 5% of orders is yet to be delivered. If you have not received your order, please PM me your order number.

When will you begin compensation shipments?

Biomech

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Quote from: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 09:15:31 AM

I know this is kind of rheotorical, but I do try to leave accurate feedback and modify it if things change.
I left the following negative feedback for blackarrow awhile ago.

Quote

Have failed to deliver to most of their customers, delete any critical posts from a self-moderated thread, and refuse to deal with their issues.

Blackarrrow recently left me negative feedback stating the following.

Quote

blackarrow -12: -3 / +0(0) 2015-01-10 15.00000000 Accusations are false. We have honored our contract to all our customers.

Would you the customers say blackarrow has honored their contracts with you?

I frankly think you should petition the mods to remove BA's feedback. I've been on the wrong side of your ire a few times, and I can't say you were ever wrong. Dammit Cheesy

But banter aside, it appears they have not honored the vast majority of their contracts, and have half assed it on the rest.

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Quote from: musicmaker613 on January 29, 2015, 11:42:55 AM

Quote from: digit on January 29, 2015, 02:17:20 AM

still waiting on minersource.net for a reply about my order or replacement, refund or compensation. Sad

The minersource address as seen on their webstore when searched for on google maps shows vacant looking and unmarked rent a unit/storage and looks like it may have been that way for a long time. no branding on outside like the neighbouring companies there.

I'm still waiting for answers from them too. Thing is, they have had my order for months now (hosting my X3) but they were supposed to send it to me a couple weeks ago. I think they'll just get to it when they feel like it. I know they're not holding on to them for personal gain, since they are no longer worth turning on.

Some of the industrialized complexes in China have government-paid electricity, and some folks have put mining gear there. Food for thought.

Either way, they shouldn't be holding onto gear. Glad I didn't get in on this back in Aug 2013. Sorry to see the pain..

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Quote from: digit on January 29, 2015, 02:17:20 AM

still waiting on minersource.net for a reply about my order or replacement, refund or compensation. Sad

The minersource address as seen on their webstore when searched for on google maps shows vacant looking and unmarked rent a unit/storage and looks like it may have been that way for a long time. no branding on outside like the neighbouring companies there.

I'm still waiting for answers from them too. Thing is, they have had my order for months now (hosting my X3) but they were supposed to send it to me a couple weeks ago. I think they'll just get to it when they feel like it. I know they're not holding on to them for personal gain, since they are no longer worth turning on.

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