Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 104. (Read 787050 times)

The capacitors that cannot not explode, commonly known as constant variable capacitors, are connected to resistors designed to perform up to 98.6% of specs or less. The fans are connected to servo motors, thus having the ability to collect the heat, rotating up to 180^o to blow it away, then returning to optimal position to capture more heat and repeat the process. The 128 flashing LEDs serve no purpose, but it's killer to look at, especially from a distance, consuming only a few extra watts. The aluminum cases are heat-resistant up to the melting point of aluminum. Included are two ports for filmware - input and output. To protect the loyal customers' investments, manuals were encoded in hillbillish Klingon twice daily during 4:20 hookah sessions at BA's undisclosed Romanian facility, decipherable via a scytale and available at a nominal price point. BA may or may not include no stinkin' PSUs or power cords, so why don't you amigos be a little bit more polite... and quit knockin' our English because we know a question mark ends this sentence because the word 'why' was used within, so there!?

The capacitors that cannot not explode, commonly known as constant variable capacitors, are connected to resistors designed to perform up to 98.6% of specs or less. The fans are connected to servo motors, thus having the ability to collect the heat, rotating up to 180^o to blow it away, then returning to optimal position to capture more heat and repeat the process. The 128 flashing LEDs serve no purpose, but it's killer to look at, especially from a distance, consuming only a few extra watts. The aluminum cases are heat-resistant up to the melting point of aluminum. Included are two ports for filmware - input and output. To protect the loyal customers' investments, manuals were encoded in hillbillish Klingon twice daily during 4:20 hookah sessions at BA's undisclosed Romanian facility, decipherable via a scytale and available at a nominal price point. BA may or may not include no stinkin' PSUs or power cords, so why don't you amigos be a little bit more polite... and quit knockin' our English because we know a question mark ends this sentence because the word 'why' was used within, so there!?

Chip cost 0.575$ Gh/s and 0.49$ Gh/s for +4400PCS.

You can get a full miner for well under $1 Gh/s.

Think carefully about your next move people and do the calculations especially in time to get something made and delivered as well as efficiency the device you intend or have made for you at the wall. The numbers are tight at best. Volume is the only way you can get the costs down. There is limited stock obviously. Please be careful out there when taking chips in lieu of miners.

it doesn't surprise me at all.

they've been delaying further info  on the compensation until ship time with the explanation that it made no sense to talk about it until that point.  stringing people along.

it's what they've been doing since January and probably even before that, when they knew there was a problem with the initial date and waited until shortly before delivery to disclose that fact.

let's recap.  this is all from memory, as I'm not going back through this whole thread to reconstruct their bullshit, so this may be a little off.  I'll leave that to the lawyers and anyone else that would like to correct any of this.

1.  February was a conservative ship date.
2.  they would meet competitor pricing at ship time or offer equivalent compensation, or some such thing.  it's been such a long strange trip even I've forgotten what they've promised, but I know this ain't it
3.  They were two weeks ahead "last I heard" until shortly before delivery, at which point they had essentially nothing, hadn't hashed a hash or even taped out their ASIC.  They offered some cloud hashing BS as compensation.  Could not do anything more.  No way.  Too Broke (but we're working on a scrypt miner)
4.  Then it was May 1 delivery and an additional Th/s unit (but no power supply) and they continued to promise to keep the above promises with respect to $/Gh at shipping and there would be some surprise.
5.  Then oops our backplane doesn't work, but don't worry we're working day and night on this and will still meet our other promises.
6.  And here we are, a delay of ~4.5 months, which is longer than the time from when most people ordered to expected delivery and they have reneged on their other promises and, again, screwed people on compensation after telling them they were simply waiting to ship to update that portion of things.  Again, there's just nothing they can do (you  should believe us this time, although we were clearly full of crap last time)

but no, no lies here.  as far as I'm concerned this has been an obvious and concerted effort to string people along the entire time and they are now selling a unit that's worth about 3k to people for 6K, tossing in a minimal bone and calling it even.  that's utter bullshit.  fraud?  I dunno, you'll have to make your own judgements I suppose on whether or not this was an orchestrated attempt to keep the suckers onboard.  I know I'm filing complaints with every government agency I can find.

and for the couple/few nuthugging fools that were on here defending these people this entire time and berating those of us that were pointing this out all along as if we were paranoid tinfoil hat wearing assholes.  you are the biggest morons of them all.  

They did offer 4Th/s in straight hash boards or 70 ASICs back in May. Both options were throwing good money and time after bad so-to-speak. It also included possibly critical technical information being withheld.

The good news I see here is that the wofully inadequate 50% compensation says they may actually intend to deliver something and not just straight up take the money.

That's not what they mean. What they mean is that because they included a PSU in their device (unlike S1/S3/etc) they wont have money for much compensation.

It looks like we WILL get the PSU for our Compensation units. Black Arrow- Don't go back on this!
 
Compensation
Currently we are unable to raise the compensation more than announced previously. The final decision will be made after we complete all deliveries in order to calculate the yield and our final costs.
However, we have done all preliminary calculations possible right now and due to our design focused on quality including:
-8 layer PCBs
-heatpipe heatsinks
-aluminium case
-included power supply
-long life 4 wire 5000 RPM fans
-genuine parts (capacitors, resistors, mosfets, inductors etc)
-capacitors that cannot not explode
 
 
Everyone- save your emails that state this, they will have no choice but to include the PSU, and probably refund everyone who has paid for extras.
 
 
I'm curious to see the price drop one they start shipping. I'll buy up a bunch of X-3's @ 1.5BTC a piece. If they're able to beat Bitmain's price, they may just be able to make enough to reward Batch 1 and 2 customers AND possibly fund a new project. Hopefully they'll hire proper PR people and stop the pre-order BS.
 
If they're very careful and play their cards right, they can take this (very) rough first run, learn from it, hire the right people, (like me) and redeem themselves.
 
For some reason I see a very faint light at the end of the tunnel.

If you search for it you'll find it on here on another thread. I posted the Company Documents a while ago but BA removed them