Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 29.

Waramp22

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Quote from: c0iner on October 01, 2014, 01:58:23 AM

How can we get involved with this? I am continuously in contact with black arrow and all they do is lie. Everday they update respond to my email with lies and nonsense. I'd like to know where I can start if anyone is currently involved with pursuing legal action in any country regarding this matter.

Did you buy from Minersource or directly from BA?

mazedk

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In a totally different and not-related-to-their-ethics topic..

Anyone got any ideas on this problem..?

After moving my X-1's to a different location its like the miners are unresponsive - not taking DHCP address properly I think?

When i run the miner manager I find:

239.71.000.000
239.71.000.001

and then I enter the

http://prospero.blac...owsoftware.com/

it shows:

Updated MAC 2014-08-21 10:58 baac084401c6 https://192.168.10.14

date makes no sense does it? - I just put em online today.

And I cannot access the miners via the link above..

I'v looked at the switch they are connected to, and i do not see any mac address beginning with "baac" ... :/

c0iner

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How can we get involved with this? I am continuously in contact with black arrow and all they do is lie. Everday they update respond to my email with lies and nonsense. I'd like to know where I can start if anyone is currently involved with pursuing legal action in any country regarding this matter.

DonRavy

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.

We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.

Thank you for your patience.

What about CE certification for the rest of the machine? The one YOU produced?

CryptoGuy

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Quote from: tempestb on September 30, 2014, 12:11:55 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

3. i've decided to go after Alex himself

so am now starting legal's in the uk against Alex, destino and bbyte. so i'm thinking the court costs are gonna be staggering... but they will be applied back to alex... if im successful Tongue

if not i'm eating beans for the next 3 years ROFL.. but i think he needs putting out of action totally.

So long as tangible progress is made, I will throw dollars (Or Bitcoins) into this to assist.

I would also donate to this cause if proof can be provided.

tempestb

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Quote from: ?? on ??

3. i've decided to go after Alex himself

so am now starting legal's in the uk against Alex, destino and bbyte. so i'm thinking the court costs are gonna be staggering... but they will be applied back to alex... if im successful Tongue

if not i'm eating beans for the next 3 years ROFL.. but i think he needs putting out of action totally.

So long as tangible progress is made, I will throw dollars (Or Bitcoins) into this to assist.

y_boonstra

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.

We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.

Thank you for your patience.

LOL..

thats bullshit, do you even know how CE works.. reading those words you realy dont..

mazedk

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.

We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.

Thank you for your patience.

Any word on our compensation?

mahowi

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I got my new hashboard today. Thanks to bobsag3 from Minersource!

Now my X1 is running at nearly 100 GH/s with 1000 Hz:

Code:

cgminer version 4.4.2 - Started: [2014-09-29 17:42:24]
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(5s):101.8G (1m):98.90G (5m):98.18G (15m):79.34G (avg):99.28Gh/s
A:27648 R:3072 HW:11 WU:1386.4/m
Connected to stratum.nicehash.com diff 512 with stratum as user 1GUNx9KDSPmeuDoRqpWn6VLGHn
Block: 6b54fe9c... Diff:34.7G Started: [17:42:24] Best share: 55K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
0: MBA 0 : max60-80C Ch:1 Co:99 | 92.78G / 99.23Gh/s WU:1386.4/m

tempestb

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Who is this Daniel Andronic you're saying we should report? Mostly everyone mentions Alexander Sovu or something like that.

I believe that Minersource's Bobsag, and likely the other guy from the European reseller, know who runs Black Arrow. As does likely David. They probably have much more detailed information on how to get ahold of them. Let's be serious, Bobsag and company aren't putting in website tickets. They call someone directly. Who is that person? It's not Silvia.

The resellers should provide this information if anyone is really going to know who exactly it is that needs to be sued. As Black Arrow themselves taunted in a response to someone asking them, "Who do you intend to sue?" because they know their identities are hidden.

If you want law enforcement to get involved, they need to know who to go after and how you connect the dots from the company to them being behind it. Otherwise you're just spamming their email with not enough information.

Maybe they can figure it out, since they are the law, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to provide Daniel Andronic's name, and have nothing else to connect him except his Facebook page. No address, no phone number, nothing. You have any legal papers to show he runs the company or anything?

ElGrandJefe

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You can complain on bitcoin forums until you're blue in the face, but unfortunately that won't change anything.

But as BFL's current woes show, if enough people complain to the authorities, they have to step in at some point.

If BA has your money and won't give it back, complain to the Hong Kong police. If you paid to a UK bank, also complain to the UK financial authority.

Truth_Seeker did his homework for you and posted all the information you need:

Quote from: ElGrandJefe on September 25, 2014, 10:16:39 AM

Posted by Truth_Seeker at ecointalk, thought it would also be good to have here in case BA deletes it (as they are wont to do):

Quote

Truth_Seeker, on 24 Sept 2014 - 7:20 PM, said:

I suggest everyone makes a police report ASAP.

Links:

Hong Kong police cyber crime department because their corps are in Hong Kong

https://secure1.info.gov.hk/police/eforms/report_cyber_crime_en.php

UK Action Fraud because their banking is in the UK

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

The names you should mention are Daniel Andronic -> Facebook page -> https://www.facebook.com/daniel.andronic.77

The bank information of black arrow is as follows:

Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
Message to beneficiary: >>> fill in here your order number. For exampleOrder #3333 <<<
Beneficiary bank name: Metro Bank
Beneficiary bank address: 201 Broad Street Mall, Reading, RG 1 7QA, United Kingdom
Beneficiary country: United Kingdom
Swift code: MYMBGB2LXXX

Please select your preferred currency on our website in order to obtain the total amount of your order and pay to one of these accounts:

EUR Account Number: 13633018, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB31MYMB23058013633018
USD Account number: 13633045, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB78MYMB23058013633045
GBP Account Number: 13631317, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB77MYMB23058013631317

I suggest everyone do this before they delete my post because this forum is owned by them!

If you don't stand up for yourself and report their criminal activity, you have no one but yourself to blame for your losses.

Specialkey

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Promising ROI from rent-a-minion is over and out. Sad

since months Angry

eXOBeX

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Difficulty's stepped up by 16% in the last day or so, making any miners that now arrive even less useful.

The difficulty is now about 16x what it was in January when Black Arrow promised they'd be delivered by. Bullshitting, scamming, self-mining bastards.

BrianM

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BA sucks monkey butts.

ElGrandJefe

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Quote from: sticky on September 27, 2014, 04:52:48 AM

Legal action is definitely possible.

This article has some interesting info on suing a Chinese Company from the U.S.- http://www.chinalawb...ted_states.html

According to a business lawyer friend of mine, the FTC can request that a Chinese company's funds be frozen while litigation takes place. He also said that U.S. companies and consumers sue Chinese companies often, and that they have decent success.

I personally haven't considered it yet, but if someone is willing to organize a class action suit, I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to join.

I wish BA understood that all they need to do is tell everyone what is going on, and agree to a good compensation plan. I'm positive this would make many customers happy and willing to wait a bit longer. ( The compensation would need to be at least 3x at minimum, but they have the equipment.)

If they don't act soon I'm sure we'll see legal action begin. I just hope BA isn't waiting for that to happen before they start delivering.

Just my 2 pennies.

If they were going to boost compensation, they would have done so long ago. It's just a stall tactic to keep people placated.

The minion products are a total loss at this point. All customers have been screwed. It's time for BA to own up to that fact.

sticky

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Legal action is definitely possible.

This article has some interesting info on suing a Chinese Company from the U.S.- http://www.chinalawb...ted_states.html

According to a business lawyer friend of mine, the FTC can request that a Chinese company's funds be frozen while litigation takes place. He also said that U.S. companies and consumers sue Chinese companies often, and that they have decent success.

I personally haven't considered it yet, but if someone is willing to organize a class action suit, I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to join.

I wish BA understood that all they need to do is tell everyone what is going on, and agree to a good compensation plan. I'm positive this would make many customers happy and willing to wait a bit longer. ( The compensation would need to be at least 3x at minimum, but they have the equipment.)

If they don't act soon I'm sure we'll see legal action begin. I just hope BA isn't waiting for that to happen before they start delivering.

Just my 2 pennies.

eXOBeX

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All BA need to do is ship the X3 with a power supply shell that consists of the internal connector at one end and a standard ATX PSU connector at the other.

Of course that would mean they'd have to stop mining with the customers' X3s (hosted at the datacentre they announced was ready in May) and start shipping them...

macher

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Quote from: btct22 on September 26, 2014, 01:30:23 AM

When will this be completed? When will my orders be sent? It's been almost a year now. How did you expect this to have come together in February? Are we getting some 14nm chips in these for compensation?

...maybe in February - 2015...

CryptoGuy

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Quote from: SunnyIgor on September 26, 2014, 07:35:51 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.

We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.

Thank you for your patience.

what about x1's then?
i'm still waiting and many others with me

I like how BA uses the excuse of one miner to not ship the other... It makes no sense as the only thing they have in common is the chip itself and the heatsinks. The backplane, hash board, case and PSU are completely different in the X1 vs the X3 yet they still can't get their X1 orders shipped. Pathetic.

SunnyIgor

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.

We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.

Thank you for your patience.

what about x1's then?
i'm still waiting and many others with me

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