the wait is killing me.
No, the 'wait' will not kill you, it will not burn down your house... the X3 will...
disclaimer: I received several X3 units. Burn in hell Black Arrow !
Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 26. (Read 787059 times)
No, the 'wait' will not kill you, it will not burn down your house... the X3 will...
disclaimer: I received several X3 units. Burn in hell Black Arrow !
the wait is killing me.
I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.
Another 2 weeks have passed. When is the PSU testing due to finish?
Next week..
What goes around, comes around
I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.
Another 2 weeks have passed. When is the PSU testing due to finish?
Next week..
I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.
We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.
Thank you for your patience.
We would like to ask forum users to stop flooding the thread with obscene messages.
Thank you for your patience.
What about CE certification for the rest of the machine? The one YOU produced?
I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.
Another 2 weeks have passed. When is the PSU testing due to finish?
Duh....2 weeks™
I believe that we have already informed our customers of this: We are currently waiting for CE to check the X3. Until completed, no shipment can be made.
Another 2 weeks have passed. When is the PSU testing due to finish?
hello, anyone looking to sell the defective X3 units?
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Posted Yesterday, 04:55 PM
They are not Chinese. If it isn't apparent, Black Arrow appears to be one or more Romanians who live in the UK. They pay Chinese companies to build their equipment for them.
I believe they ceased production at their previous factory because the company they contracted out was very slow, and probably because they ran out of money.
They found a new production company that can produce all the miners in three days, but I don't think they are producing anything, because they are out of money. (It would be obvious if they were, because in three days, they'd be done. Since that hasn't happened, you can figure out the rest.)
I believe that they are looking for some kind of third party investor who will provide the necessary cash to complete production.
In the meantime, they may be producing units themselves, slowly for lack of anything better to do.
I believe the company is broke. They may be mining with some X3's to get enough cash to keep the lights on and pay people, and maybe finish a miner here or there by hand. But at this stage, it sounds as though they are just broke and looking for new investors.
I would like to think differently, but when I ask about their financial situation and why they are unable to do certain things, their lack of answers indicates they are broke. No denials. No proof of any kid.
I think if anyone looks at this with a clear head, you have a company that hasn't made a sale in over half a year, trying to pay people to build these miners. It's game over.
Sure, they MIGHT find an investor. But this generation of miners are worthless unless Bitcoin goes to a thousand dollars a coin, but every difficulty increase that clicks by, no matter how small, shows us that the machines will be that much pointless to produce and ship out.
It's a terrible situation to be sure. They took a lot of people's money, including mine, and gave them nothing in return. Being broke, they have no way to fix it. It'll come down to lawsuits and legal action before too long, because they won't be able to prove to any investigating body that they can make good on the contracts they agreed to. They are screwed. The only hope is some kind of angel investor, but I really don't see how one would step into this mess and waste money trying to fix it. Not unless they got complete control of the "company" and all of its IP.
I wish Black Arrow luck in trying to sort this mess out. But the whole thing is a wash as far as I see it. Pretty soon I'll be able to get 2th for less than what it'll cost BA to ship me my units.
Posted Yesterday, 04:55 PM
They are not Chinese. If it isn't apparent, Black Arrow appears to be one or more Romanians who live in the UK. They pay Chinese companies to build their equipment for them.
I believe they ceased production at their previous factory because the company they contracted out was very slow, and probably because they ran out of money.
They found a new production company that can produce all the miners in three days, but I don't think they are producing anything, because they are out of money. (It would be obvious if they were, because in three days, they'd be done. Since that hasn't happened, you can figure out the rest.)
I believe that they are looking for some kind of third party investor who will provide the necessary cash to complete production.
In the meantime, they may be producing units themselves, slowly for lack of anything better to do.
I believe the company is broke. They may be mining with some X3's to get enough cash to keep the lights on and pay people, and maybe finish a miner here or there by hand. But at this stage, it sounds as though they are just broke and looking for new investors.
I would like to think differently, but when I ask about their financial situation and why they are unable to do certain things, their lack of answers indicates they are broke. No denials. No proof of any kid.
I think if anyone looks at this with a clear head, you have a company that hasn't made a sale in over half a year, trying to pay people to build these miners. It's game over.
Sure, they MIGHT find an investor. But this generation of miners are worthless unless Bitcoin goes to a thousand dollars a coin, but every difficulty increase that clicks by, no matter how small, shows us that the machines will be that much pointless to produce and ship out.
It's a terrible situation to be sure. They took a lot of people's money, including mine, and gave them nothing in return. Being broke, they have no way to fix it. It'll come down to lawsuits and legal action before too long, because they won't be able to prove to any investigating body that they can make good on the contracts they agreed to. They are screwed. The only hope is some kind of angel investor, but I really don't see how one would step into this mess and waste money trying to fix it. Not unless they got complete control of the "company" and all of its IP.
I wish Black Arrow luck in trying to sort this mess out. But the whole thing is a wash as far as I see it. Pretty soon I'll be able to get 2th for less than what it'll cost BA to ship me my units.
Thx for posting.
You should post that on the non-BA-moderated thread, too, before someone takes a break from assembling all those miners and decides to remove another 100 pages from this one.
Black Arrow, There is talk on Ecoin that you are broke - Is it True?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Why would you believe anything that comes from BA?
Really the " lol " of the day
Black Arrow, There is talk on Ecoin that you are broke - Is it True?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Why would you believe anything that comes from BA?
Black Arrow, There is talk on Ecoin that you are broke - Is it True?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can you please post the link from ecoin?
thx.
Black Arrow, There is talk on Ecoin that you are broke - Is it True?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
They will just tell you that they are waiting on the PSU company to fix the PSU or the CE to come back for the PSU. Which may be true, but doesn't explain why the X1 production has ceased. They are out of money. If they are still building miners, it is probably the owners working around the clock putting them together, which would explain why they get shipped to Minsersource and others at a trickle pace. They need a wealthy benefactor to step in and save them. Or a miracle to happen to the price of Bitcoin. Neither is likely, but both are possible. Go ask your rich Uncle for the money, he might be interested in the 14nm tech they have.
Black Arrow, There is talk on Ecoin that you are broke - Is it True?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Can we get some kind of official answers as to what is happenin?
Of course their broke
This is the address they gave on my receipt. That was last November.
Black Arrow LTD
Room 1701, 17/F, Henan Building, No. 90-92 Jaffe Road
Wanchai, N/A
PHONE: +852 8199 0849
Location according to Google Maps
Black Arrow LTD
Room 1701, 17/F, Henan Building, No. 90-92 Jaffe Road
Wanchai, N/A
PHONE: +852 8199 0849
Location according to Google Maps
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Truth_Seeker, on 24 Sept 2014 - 7:20 PM, said:
The bank information of black arrow is as follows:
Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
Edwards Place is a small block of overpriced flats, so that's only a partial address. Wonder if running a business is prohibited in the tenancy agreement.The bank information of black arrow is as follows:
Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
/maps/el8cP]http://[Suspicious link removed]/maps/el8cP
What is their HongKong address? as they only have Shenzhen, Guangdong, on the website.
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Truth_Seeker, on 24 Sept 2014 - 7:20 PM, said:
The bank information of black arrow is as follows:
Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
Edwards Place is a small block of overpriced flats, so that's only a partial address. Wonder if running a business is prohibited in the tenancy agreement.The bank information of black arrow is as follows:
Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
http://goo.gl/maps/el8cP
So did I. I then requested a refund in April, which they approved, but asked me to wait until shipping started.
In August, after shipping had started, they said there would be no refunds.
Yet somehow we customers are to blame for keeping them busy with our complaints and making their sensitive engineers cry with our criticism.
Please, please report your case to the Hong Kong police, using the above link. Then the police will have one more complaint on top of the pile of others. And they will act on them.
Do it soon, before BA deletes another 50 pages of posts from this thread again.
In August, after shipping had started, they said there would be no refunds.
Yet somehow we customers are to blame for keeping them busy with our complaints and making their sensitive engineers cry with our criticism.
Please, please report your case to the Hong Kong police, using the above link. Then the police will have one more complaint on top of the pile of others. And they will act on them.
Do it soon, before BA deletes another 50 pages of posts from this thread again.
I did complain to HK cyber crime as well. Just tired of their continuous lies.
So did I. I then requested a refund in April, which they approved, but asked me to wait until shipping started.
In August, after shipping had started, they said there would be no refunds.
Yet somehow we customers are to blame for keeping them busy with our complaints and making their sensitive engineers cry with our criticism.
Please, please report your case to the Hong Kong police, using the above link. Then the police will have one more complaint on top of the pile of others. And they will act on them.
Do it soon, before BA deletes another 50 pages of posts from this thread again.
In August, after shipping had started, they said there would be no refunds.
Yet somehow we customers are to blame for keeping them busy with our complaints and making their sensitive engineers cry with our criticism.
Please, please report your case to the Hong Kong police, using the above link. Then the police will have one more complaint on top of the pile of others. And they will act on them.
Do it soon, before BA deletes another 50 pages of posts from this thread again.
Minersource and Blackarrow promising refunds and then telling their customers, sorry whoops you're not getting a refund is not acceptable or allowed.
From usa.gov - Consumer Complaints and Protection
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Know Your Rights
When you order something by mail, phone, fax or computer, the Federal Trade Commission requires the company to:
Ship the merchandise within the time promised, or if no specific delivery time was stated, within 30 days of receiving your order.
Notify you if the shipment cannot be made on time and give you the choice of waiting longer or getting a refund.
Cancel your order and return your payment if the new shipping date cannot be met, unless you agree to another delay.
If you cancel, your money must be refunded within 7 days (or your account must be credited within one billing cycle if you charged the order). The company can't substitute a credit for other merchandise. If you applied for a charge account with the merchant at the same time that you placed your order, the company has an extra 20 days to ship the merchandise to allow time for processing your application.
When you order something by mail, phone, fax or computer, the Federal Trade Commission requires the company to:
Ship the merchandise within the time promised, or if no specific delivery time was stated, within 30 days of receiving your order.
Notify you if the shipment cannot be made on time and give you the choice of waiting longer or getting a refund.
Cancel your order and return your payment if the new shipping date cannot be met, unless you agree to another delay.
If you cancel, your money must be refunded within 7 days (or your account must be credited within one billing cycle if you charged the order). The company can't substitute a credit for other merchandise. If you applied for a charge account with the merchant at the same time that you placed your order, the company has an extra 20 days to ship the merchandise to allow time for processing your application.
This only applies to Minersource since they are located in the US.
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