I'm definitely working on a status update. I'm the guy on facebook, in the ticket system, here, and on ecointalk. It's hard for me to keep up with all of these different places where people often times ask the same or similar questions.
I should have an update soon.
I will look into my PM's here too.
Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 295. (Read 787053 times)
Matt can you please take a look at your PMs and assist me in my matter.
No reflection on the mods/spokespeople of BA. I get that they can only release information that they're told they can release.
People deserve an answer after literally weeks of asking. People thinking about buying should also have the most up to date info that actually exists. Not the information that is supposedly available, but what actually exists.
I love how people (both customers and potential customers) keep giving these guys business advice. Something doesn't seem right here. It's unfortunate things are this way, but generalized and vague updates are all any of us are probably going to get. Combine an extremely poor customer service model with a burgeoning (and possibly ill-fated) industry and this is the result. I gave up on BA a month ago for this reason, and it looks like nothing has changed, even though it was 'promised' there would be major updates this month. Meanwhile, the difficulty just keeps rising. People deserve an answer after literally weeks of asking. People thinking about buying should also have the most up to date info that actually exists. Not the information that is supposedly available, but what actually exists.
I was planning picking my up at the factory the 24. of February.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
And you booked your Chinese visa 2 months in advance then? (Can't get in without one ;-) )
You can get a landing visa for a layover visit.
For my visit I got 6 mo buis pass via one of those passport services
I was planning picking my up at the factory the 24. of February.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
And you booked your Chinese visa 2 months in advance then? (Can't get in without one ;-) )
You can get a landing visa for a layover visit.
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Black Arrow Ltd are actively monitoring the market to remain competitive and are seeking to become a major player in this field. They are currently offering an attractive offer: customers placing orders now will be protected against any price decrease prior delivery on the original price tag by being offered a proportional increase in hashing power at no extra charge. The sales model on the new line is attractive to their first customers who are guaranteed to receive a much improved deal.
Is that what you're speaking about? There was never an equivalent of Hash Fast's miner protection plan.
The only mention of "45 days" in the first 30 pages was on page 19, 26, and 27. They were in reference to some paypal 45 day window.
As far as I and many others understood it, you would only get an increased hashrate if they decide to lower the sale price of the x1 or x3. Had nothing to do with delays or making sure their customers reach positive roi but instead to insure that anyone preordering would receive the best deal they offered if they decided to lower prices which they haven't.
Maybe that was the case, I just know that it was expressed to myself and some others that it was regarding profiting, because the difficulty level 7-8 months down the road was vastly unknown. Folks didn't want to buy in to something which wouldn't make a dime, so they said you would get free hashpower (or discounted hashpower) if the system can't provide ROI+Profit within 45 days of receipt.
I was the first person they contacted to be a US retailer but ended up passing. It was during those discussions that this was expressed, through email but also on here. Somewhere in the first 30 pages I think.
I was planning picking my up at the factory the 24. of February.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
And you booked your Chinese visa 2 months in advance then? (Can't get in without one ;-) )
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Was this a promise? I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee. If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it?
I know they offer this:
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All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines.
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Oops... you beat me to it, I took wayyyy too long to click 'submit'
Yeah that's what I'm referring to. Myself along with some others, at the very very very beginning, discussed this when we were talking about resales and becoming a US retailer. It was explained that, as that last quote said, it meant literally that you would receive additional hashpower at no cost, if you would not make a profit over your investment based in USD. For first time buyers, I believe it was like $240 for an X1.
They are relying on BTC value increasing so that in 45 days time (the window they gave us), you would get more than $240 back.
Just curious if this was still the case.
As far as I and many others understood it, you would only get an increased hashrate if they decide to lower the sale price of the x1 or x3. Had nothing to do with delays or making sure their customers reach positive roi but instead to insure that anyone preordering would receive the best deal they offered if they decided to lower prices which they haven't.
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Was this a promise? I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee. If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it?
I know they offer this:
Quote
All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines.
Edit:
Oops... you beat me to it, I took wayyyy too long to click 'submit'
Yeah that's what I'm referring to. Myself along with some others, at the very very very beginning, discussed this when we were talking about resales and becoming a US retailer. It was explained that, as that last quote said, it meant literally that you would receive additional hashpower at no cost, if you would not make a profit over your investment based in USD. For first time buyers, I believe it was like $240 for an X1.
They are relying on BTC value increasing so that in 45 days time (the window they gave us), you would get more than $240 back.
Just curious if this was still the case.
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Was this a promise? I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee. If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it?
I know they offer this:
Quote
All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines.
Edit:
Oops... you beat me to it, I took wayyyy too long to click 'submit'
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Was this a promise? I must have missed this somewhere as to my knowledge they have not offered any sort of guarantee. If you have a link to where this is discussed could you please share it?
I think he is referring to this:
All pre-orders are guaranteed to be protected against any price decrease. If at any time, during the pre-order period, we drop the price under what you have already paid, you will be compensated by receiving more X-3 mining machines.
Example: If you have purchased an X-3 with 25% discount and we offer later 40% discount, your order will be recalculated at 40% discount and you will receive more X-3. Then, if we offer later only 10% discount you will still get order as if you've ordered at 40% discount.
Which is not what he thinks it is.
Cant think of anything else they ever said.
Are you guys still going to offer more hash to your customers, as you discussed from day 1, to make sure they profit?
Hi Matt.
past 13th January I ordered 10x X1 the paid same day by TT but i got an email the past 23th from BA let my know that your company have some troubles for get the payment.
Also I try contact several days by telephone with your office at Shenzhen and at Hong Kong but nobody answer.
So, I want visit your office at Shenzhen or HK since i living near there in Shenzhen and discuss about the payment.
Let me know if possible go there tomorrow 28th or after tomorrow 29th.
Regards.
Luis
past 13th January I ordered 10x X1 the paid same day by TT but i got an email the past 23th from BA let my know that your company have some troubles for get the payment.
Also I try contact several days by telephone with your office at Shenzhen and at Hong Kong but nobody answer.
So, I want visit your office at Shenzhen or HK since i living near there in Shenzhen and discuss about the payment.
Let me know if possible go there tomorrow 28th or after tomorrow 29th.
Regards.
Luis
Hi Matt, please check your inbox as I sent you a PM.
So far i haven't come across a more affordable and capable hardware.
I managed to get 5 x1's while it was still possible from the webshop, i guess I count myself lucky.
Looking forward to batch 1 !
So far i haven't come across a more affordable and capable hardware.
I managed to get 5 x1's while it was still possible from the webshop, i guess I count myself lucky.
Looking forward to batch 1 !
why the x-1 miner for purchase a minimum of 10???
and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
It's called wholesale. Get 10 home users to buy one each, or go to one of the Black Arrow resellers like normal people do.and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
Actually if you get 10 users to buy one each that'd be a group buy... which isn't allowed. Our resellers are the only option if you want fewer than 10 X-1's.
I'm still digging for information guys. Sorry about the delay.
why the x-1 miner for purchase a minimum of 10???
and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
It's called wholesale. Get 10 home users to buy one each, or go to one of the Black Arrow resellers like normal people do.and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
Actually if you get 10 users to buy one each that'd be a group buy... which isn't allowed. Our resellers are the only option if you want fewer than 10 X-1's.
I'm still digging for information guys. Sorry about the delay.
why the x-1 miner for purchase a minimum of 10???
and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
It's called wholesale. Get 10 home users to buy one each, or go to one of the Black Arrow resellers like normal people do.and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
why the x-1 miner for purchase a minimum of 10???
and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
and its for the home miner?
shouldn't you bring that down?
I was planning picking my up at the factory the 24. of February.
But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
I bet you were not. Nobody can be that noob, even with only 5 posts.But with the news in this thread I am not sure booking a ticket is such a good idea.
erk strikes again!
LMAO
You tell that newbie erk!!!!!!!!!! 
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