Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 332. (Read 787066 times)
any news on a eu / uk reseller ?
Chill Black Arrow! Seriously, these are some of your customers?!
Sorry about that. Comment corrected. I was hoping that nobody will notice it by the time I had the chance to fix it but this is a very active forum.
Just thought you'd develop a 28nm ASIC on a 28nm dev board.
I was kinda hoping you would say "Bobsag3 has let the cat out of the bag, we're really working on a 22nm ASIC to match KnC".
We want to work on 20nm as a 2nd chip but first we need to ensure that TSMC will accept us as client for their top of the line node. There's no reason not to accept us if they accepted KNC.
This is an image of a 22nm FPGA dev kit, excuse my ignorance, but how does that get us to a 28nm ASIC?
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
If we should not test our front end on FPGA, would you be so kind and teach us how to make an ASIC?
Just thought you'd develop a 28nm ASIC on a 28nm dev board.
I was kinda hoping you would say "Bobsag3 has let the cat out of the bag, we're really working on a 22nm ASIC to match KnC".
Chill Black Arrow! Seriously, these are some of your customers?!
This is an image of a 22nm FPGA dev kit, excuse my ignorance, but how does that get us to a 28nm ASIC?
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
We need to test our front end on FPGA.
by going into business with someone from China I'd certainly want to see their accounts.
Are you really serious? You want us to show you our accounts for your X1 preorder?
I was talking about if I was Bobsag3 that would have been part of my due diligence, he will end up with the legal hassel on the US side, if this goes sour after all.
PS. Black Arrow seriously need to hire someone for their support team.
Shit, they can afford to pay them in BTC as their mining farm is probably pulling close to 100 BTC a day. (as see in the pics posted previously)
Shit, they can afford to pay them in BTC as their mining farm is probably pulling close to 100 BTC a day. (as see in the pics posted previously)
These are not our miners. We made them for a customer.
We are interviewing for support team but it takes a while.
by going into business with someone from China I'd certainly want to see their accounts.
Are you really serious? You want us to show you our accounts for your X1 preorder?
This is an image of a 22nm FPGA, excuse my ignorance, but how does that get us to a 28nm ASIC?
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
That's what I was wondering...
This is an image of a 22nm FPGA dev kit, excuse my ignorance, but how does that get us to a 28nm ASIC?
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
http://www.achronix.com/products/speedster22ihd.html
I have 2 orders choosing BTC payment and took some time to get BTC payment address, BTC price is all over the place (plus not enough BTC to make payment) and now want to change to bank transfer and haven't heard from the in nearly a week. I also remember that orders are valid for 15 days which for me is 15th day today. If they can't handle support I wonder how they're going to go with actual filling orders and shipping.
Are they going to be able to pull this off?
Are they going to be able to pull this off?
Are you referring to BTC payment through the reseller, minersource?
I had zero problems ordering from them last tuesday...
If your bitcoin payment didn't show up within 24 hours (and you still haven't sent it) I'm pretty sure your best bet is to just make a new order. *** Might also be good to tell them about your previous order which never got paid & ask if you can keep your place in line (probably not, I think this sort of thing is typically based on pay date instead of order number)
*** Exact quote on policy as stated in email I recieved during BTC payment process on Tuesday, December 3rd, 2013
Quote from: Matt Carson
In order to avoid any issues, please do not delay your payment for more than 24 hours. If you do delay and the BTC rate drops you will need to cover the difference. If the BTC rate raises after 24 hours and wish the total amount to be re-calculated you will need to cancel the order, lose your place in the queue and place a new order; however if you will not pay immediately you might end up in the same situation. We have this policy in place because recalculating invoices and tracing the BTC rates takes extra work and we wish to dedicate all our time to design our hardware, eliminate any inconveniences and delays.
No, I ordered through Black Arrow Software.
I'm pretty sure that you get placed in the cue after payment, so I'm not worried if I loose line place and accept placing of when payment is made.
But what I want to keep is the discount price, if I reorder now then I'll get new price without the same discount of when I ordered before.
If the replied emails or answered tickets and change my payment to bank transfer, I would paid already before the 15 day cancellation period expires.
thanks for the reply anyway kuzetsa,
PS. Black Arrow seriously need to hire someone for their support team.
Shit, they can afford to pay them in BTC as their mining farm is probably pulling close to 100 BTC a day. (as see in the pics posted previously)
so when did those bitfury boards go on sell from black arrow? they are hosting for customers?
I have 2 orders choosing BTC payment and took some time to get BTC payment address, BTC price is all over the place (plus not enough BTC to make payment) and now want to change to bank transfer and haven't heard from the in nearly a week. I also remember that orders are valid for 15 days which for me is 15th day today. If they can't handle support I wonder how they're going to go with actual filling orders and shipping.
Are they going to be able to pull this off?
Are they going to be able to pull this off?
Are you referring to BTC payment through the reseller, minersource?
I had zero problems ordering from them last tuesday...
If your bitcoin payment didn't show up within 24 hours (and you still haven't sent it) I'm pretty sure your best bet *** is to just make a new order. Might also be good to tell them about your previous order which never got paid & ask if you can keep your place in line (probably not, I think this sort of thing is typically based on pay date instead of order number)
*** Exact quote for policy as stated in email I recieved during BTC payment process on Tuesday, December 3rd, 2013
Quote from: Matt Carson
In order to avoid any issues, please do not delay your payment for more than 24 hours. If you do delay and the BTC rate drops you will need to cover the difference. If the BTC rate raises after 24 hours and wish the total amount to be re-calculated you will need to cancel the order, lose your place in the queue and place a new order; however if you will not pay immediately you might end up in the same situation. We have this policy in place because recalculating invoices and tracing the BTC rates takes extra work and we wish to dedicate all our time to design our hardware, eliminate any inconveniences and delays.
Ok, I placed an order with MinerSource for 2 X1's a couple of weeks ago, sent two emails since to the required address for payment details and still yet to Receive any info also Pm'd bobsag3 several times, was told in PM that it will be taken care of Post haste, never received any further information, all I have at the moment is the original email for the order with Matts email to send a request to for payment details. I give up on this waste of my time.
I haven't heard from anyone for a week now.
Got 2 X3's @ $4,899.30
Now my order was screwed up and they both show @ 5,949.15 each with only $1,049.85 discount applied.
They already send me an invoice for 1st unit at correct price which was paid.
I just cant get the correct price and updated invoice on the 2nd unit.
Getting a little frustrated especially with all the BTC fluctuations lately on top of that.
I'm in the same boat, and starting to get frustrated myself especially because I'm in on this buy with 3 other friends.
I have 2 orders choosing BTC payment and took some time to get BTC payment address, BTC price is all over the place (plus not enough BTC to make payment) and now want to change to bank transfer and haven't heard from the in nearly a week. I also remember that orders are valid for 15 days which for me is 15th day today. If they can't handle support I wonder how they're going to go with actual filling orders and shipping.
Are they going to be able to pull this off?
Updates straight from bobsag3 in Hong Kong visiting Black Arrow:
Can you say miner pr0n?
These areProsperos - except prototypes running with Bitfury instead of Minion chips: Bitfury boards:
https://i.imgur.com/PZsSdoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X69NCBP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fw5qBvl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pSkWGPL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dO4kzm8.jpg
FPGA simulating the Minion ASIC hashing away: https://i.imgur.com/2pq0Fz7.jpg
Full album here: http://goo.gl/s9U6IX
Can you say miner pr0n?
These are
https://i.imgur.com/PZsSdoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/X69NCBP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fw5qBvl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pSkWGPL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dO4kzm8.jpg
FPGA simulating the Minion ASIC hashing away: https://i.imgur.com/2pq0Fz7.jpg
Full album here: http://goo.gl/s9U6IX
So nothing of the 28nm tech other than a FPGA simulator?
What else would you expect? Its pretty public that the chip is still in development, and that they wont have the chips until Jan/Feb.
Wishful thinking on my part then
Thanks for the picsbASIC built nice FPGAs but couldn't deliver an ASIC, so being Devils advocate here...
you could scam a pre-order by using customer funds to build/buy equipment to mine Bitcoins on until they demand a refund with hosting as a cover.
Did you check the company accounts to see where the customer funds are and if they really do have 70% of $5m needed to create an ASIC?
If I was putting my neck on the line, with US authorities, by going into business with someone from China I'd certainly want to see their accounts.
Thanks for the pics, and good luck everyone.
p.s. hosting ASICs will one day be the death of Bitcoin, it's not a decentralized network!
Ok, I placed an order with MinerSource for 2 X1's a couple of weeks ago, sent two emails since to the required address for payment details and still yet to Receive any info also Pm'd bobsag3 several times, was told in PM that it will be taken care of Post haste, never received any further information, all I have at the moment is the original email for the order with Matts email to send a request to for payment details. I give up on this waste of my time.
I haven't heard from anyone for a week now.
Got 2 X3's @ $4,899.30
Now my order was screwed up and they both show @ 5,949.15 each with only $1,049.85 discount applied.
They already send me an invoice for 1st unit at correct price which was paid.
I just cant get the correct price and updated invoice on the 2nd unit.
Getting a little frustrated especially with all the BTC fluctuations lately on top of that.
Ok, I placed an order with MinerSource for 2 X1's a couple of weeks ago, sent two emails since to the required address for payment details and still yet to Receive any info also Pm'd bobsag3 several times, was told in PM that it will be taken care of Post haste, never received any further information, all I have at the moment is the original email for the order with Matts email to send a request to for payment details. I give up on this waste of my time.
BlackArrow has a Bitfury mining farm. Oh now I really believe they can deliver a working ASIC. Certainly if you buy an ASIC miner that immediately gives you the ability to design one from scratch.
That's all the proof I need! Lol.
That's all the proof I need! Lol.
Not sure if sarcasm.
BlackArrow has a Bitfury mining farm. Oh now I really believe they can deliver a working ASIC. Certainly if you buy an ASIC miner that immediately gives you the ability to design one from scratch.
That's all the proof I need! Lol.
That's all the proof I need! Lol.
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