Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 329.

bobsag3

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Quote from: Stedsm on December 12, 2013, 01:24:09 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Mat,I hope my X-3 will make into batch 1, Ordered through BA on the 10th sent wire in the 11th but still waiting for the status to change.

You will be fine. I have more than a few pending wires, all were included in B1. The closed it a little early I think to make sure everyone who was pending/ waiting for payment info will make it in.

Stedsm

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Thanks for clearing that up Mat,I hope my X-3 will make into batch 1, Ordered through BA on the 10th sent wire in the 11th but still waiting for the status to change.

Avadar

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I wish you guys had been a little more reliable and accurate with your information, I could have paid yesterday, but went to go pay today, there is no way I'm waiting til late april to get some units. I was picking up 2 units, for tests, and if things went well I would have stayed with black arrow.... Just lost a customer

bobsag3

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Guys, Batch 1 is sold out. I guess they have not updated their site yet, but they communicated to me yesterday that Batch 2 was now open, for delivery late april. Any one who paid for an order through me through last night will have made it into Batch 1, All orders starting today are Batch 2. Hope that clears it up.

I do take USD thru the site, just current not enabled due to a bug. (You tried to select "Wire", and the site would just 404).

Septimus

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Quote from: xzempt on December 12, 2013, 12:53:17 PM

you probably have a better chance of BFL delivering a Monarch than getting the 100ghs from Black Arrow

I've been considering investing in BA, but with the lack of solid development progress updates, I'm considering going back to KnC, simply for reliability.

dspiel

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if it doesn't ship by first week of March i am going to ask for a refund from ms

Stedsm

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On minersource.net the U.S reseller Bobsag3

zurg

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Where are you guys seeing this?

I am showing:
https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
This product will be available on 24/02/2014
even refreshed a few times.

xzempt

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you probably have a better chance of BFL delivering a Monarch than getting the 100ghs from Black Arrow

xzempt

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was about to order one... til i saw the the ship date is now april? 100ghs in april will be the same as trying to mine with 1 redfury today......

im sick of all this preorder crap.... pay now to fund our research and development..... any presales should come with shares of a companies stock....

Septimus

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Quote from: Stedsm on December 12, 2013, 12:15:53 PM

I hate to say it but that late April date would explain a lot of why there are no photos from anyone that show anything with the Prospero name on it,no tape out date,no mock-up of the design even with a dummy board. just some shots of heat sinks on a table and an FPGA board supposedly running a simulation of the Minion.

If that delivery date applies to orders already placed and paid for,then it is very worrisome to skip 2 months ahead. it would suggest to me that things with the Minion are not going
very well as other components should be routine. This could be worse for the X-1 if pushed back to late Apr,you get in May and be happy to get your money back if the diff goes as predicted. imo. I hope I'm wrong as I just sent off a wire for a X-3 last night Undecided

This April date is news to me. If Minersource is pushing back the date, BA should be too. I have yet to hear from management about pushing back the date, and I'm glad you posted that reply on their forums, since it's a very good question to ask them. There's a whole lot of nothing being shown for all this time in development other than a few heatsinks and a datasheet. Add those facts, plus the fact no one seems to be able to provide this information nor have the time to give it. There are a lot of worried customers out there.

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I hate to say it but that late April date would explain a lot of why there are no photos from anyone that show anything with the Prospero name on it,no tape out date,no mock-up of the design even with a dummy board. just some shots of heat sinks on a table and an FPGA board supposedly running a simulation of the Minion.

If that delivery date applies to orders already placed and paid for,then it is very worrisome to skip 2 months ahead. it would suggest to me that things with the Minion are not going
very well as other components should be routine. This could be worse for the X-1 if pushed back to late Apr,you get in May and be happy to get your money back if the diff goes as predicted. imo. I hope I'm wrong as I just sent off a wire for a X-3 last night Undecided

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Quote from: minternj on December 12, 2013, 10:03:42 AM

Quote from: filharvey on December 12, 2013, 09:53:32 AM

Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

Phil

any no one in any official capacity will say how many they've sold and what batch they are in of you order now. Just a lot of people guessing it is still batch 1, which must be a magical wafer production of unlimited silicon.

Well, I asked if my #207X was in Batch 1 and BA on the forum said it was in Batch 1.
Beyond that I dunno.

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Quote from: filharvey on December 12, 2013, 09:53:32 AM

Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

Phil

any no one in any official capacity will say how many they've sold and what batch they are in of you order now. Just a lot of people guessing it is still batch 1, which must be a magical wafer production of unlimited silicon.

filharvey

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Why on minersource.net does it say delivery as Late April? where as black arrow are still saying 24/2/14.

Phil

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Quote from: bobsag3 on December 12, 2013, 04:29:57 AM

My new minersource.net site is live! No more manual BTC processing, the site now generates the payment address and verify payment automatically.
All previous orders on the old site ARE NOT LOST. I will be migrating the database slowly of the next few days.

awesome, the main site has really slow customer support replies.

zurg

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Quote from: bobsag3 on December 12, 2013, 04:29:57 AM

My new minersource.net site is live! No more manual BTC processing, the site now generates the payment address and verify payment automatically.
All previous orders on the old site ARE NOT LOST. I will be migrating the database slowly of the next few days.

Ha, you should have taught BA on how to do that when you were there.
I am in the boat where I might have to abandon my 2nd X3.
At this point I would be paying +$2k more for it.., due to BA's inability to respond in timely manner (11 days now) and now unfavorable exchange rate and inability of them to correct my pricing where they gave me December pricing on a November purchase.

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Quote from: blackarrow on September 14, 2013, 12:03:14 PM

Quote from: plasmoske on September 14, 2013, 11:48:00 AM

Quote from: blackarrow on September 14, 2013, 10:15:59 AM

The first orders are expected to be shipped at the end of February 2014.

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At today’s Bitcoin price and network hashing rate, X-1 would return $682 in 15 days and X-3 would return $13845 in 15 days (1).

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(1) As Bitcoin network is currently growing, we expect that the actual revenue by the time of shipment to be lower than this.

Yes. Very Very Very much lower than this. You're going to be delivering end of Feb (the target). By the time that date rolls around, your top of the line machine will be barely making $200-300 a month. Pitiful. 6 months away is just wayyyyy too far off.

And my post will probably be deleted but yeah, hopefully a few people may be able to see my message before it becomes so.

Sorry to disappoint you, we are only deleting off-topic posts.

Our view is that Bitcoin Mining is going to live more than the next 6 months.

Our promise to our customers is that we'll deliver the most efficient chip and will practice a minimal profit.

At the time of the actual shipment we'll make sure that we sell our chip at the market price or lower. All pre-orders will benefit of the same discount by the time that we start shipping. No longer you'll pre-order a hardware today just to discover 3 days later that others can pre-order it at 1/3 of the price you've paid.

would you be willing to sell us the chips and the board design with software?

chips I can buy directly from you and boards I have a source to product them but will need the sig files

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Quote from: Atomar on December 12, 2013, 06:07:40 AM

OK then. But minersource is located in the US. Right ??
So why would I pay with HKD ?? ;-)

Oh well you didn't say minersource. I was talking about Black Arrow.

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OK then. But minersource is located in the US. Right ??
So why would I pay with HKD ?? ;-)

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