Topic: Black Arrow Customers - Consumer Complaints Links - page 4. (Read 20518 times)

The most difficult part would actually be collecting, but it's very important to follow through on this, because this Alexandru Ion Sovu guy is really dangerous having all of our personal information pertaining to the orders. We need to go after him even if it doesn't necessarily easily result in restitution.

Sadly I think all of you people with the black arrow problems will be wasting your time suing. I hope I am wrong but I doubt criminal charges will result of these lawsuits.

With that sad I wish you all good luck! I hope the people responsible are punished so hopefully this will not happen so often.

Steve

Found this info is some of his business docs

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8679314


Although this address below keeps popping up.

FLAT 1 EDWARD PLACE 240 KINGS ROAD , READING
RG1 4NY, BERKSHIRE
ENGLAND

See these 3 links and check out the companies directors and board members.
http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08125672-cardreaderfactory-ltd
http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08431396-destino-limited
http://www.companieslist.co.uk/07035674-bbyte-ltd

Does anyone have a picture of Alexandru Sovu or Alex Berk?
and whereabouts?

i emailed you,  [email protected]  

Black Arrow basterds using our money to develop a scryptminer and 14nm bitcoinminer instead of refunding or deliver products in time

Here is a consolidated list of links.  Further info on how to file, information on legal status, address etc., of BA elsewhere in this thread.

Just putting this together and updating to make it simpler for people to use.


For those wanting to join a lawsuit forming:

Anyone interested in joining a legal action case:
 
Please send to [email protected] the following details:
 
Order date
Rough figure on how much was spent ( please do not supply order numbers yet..this will be a job for the legals to obtain directly from you )
Contact details ( Email will suffice at this stage )
Brief paragraph outlining steps you have taken to resolve issue with BA directly ( i.e. direct communication, complaint to consumer council, local better business bureau, local state senator etc.. )
Expected resolution that would satisfy you ( i.e. full refund, delivery of goods etc )
 
I just want to gather enough information to show to the legal team what level of commitment they will have to undertake to start this rolling and how many people will be involved. From this they can gauge how large the suit will be against BA and what it will entail.
 
Bticz


For those wanting to register for an investigation forming via another customer:


"I have a mate who's an Australian Federal Police Officer and he needs to know how many others there are that have been ripped off.  He has the ability to perform international inquiries regarding Alexandru Sovu and can influence the authorities in China. http://www.afp.gov.au/media-centre/publications/platypus/previous-editions/2000/march-2000/china.aspx

I for one am liking the fact that we can influence the Ministry of Public Security and bring BA to their attention.

If you would like to be noted in the investigation and hopefully either obtain your money back or at the very least see Alexandru Sovu come to justice then please click here :- http://members.iinet.net.au/~craige/BA_Customers/BA.html.     "




US

FTC Complaints:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted?NextQID=203&Url=%23%26panel1-6#crnt

Consumer Safety Complaints:
https://www.saferproducts.gov/CPSRMSPublic/Incidents/ReportIncident.aspx

Wire Fraud Complaints:

18 U.S.C. § 1343 provides:

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.[2]


that type of stuff is handled by the FBI, who can be contacted here:

http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/when

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber








Europe

European consumers network

http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/ecc/index_en.htm


Europe also has a RAPEX system with is integrated with China that is set up to notify people of dangerous products.

http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/archive/safety/rapex/rapex_china_en.htm

Someone in the EU will have to pick up the ball on this. get in touch with the consumers network and determine how to file a RAPEX alert.



http://fraudaid.com/How-To-Deal-With-Having-Been-Conned/Fraud_Report/Jurisdictions/International/ScotlandYard.htm


Hong Kong:

Hong Kong Consumer Council

http://www.consumer.org.hk/website/ws_en/complaints_and_advices/how_to_complain/howtocomplain.html

How to file a claim for your money back in HK Small Claims Court:
http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/pphlt/html/sc.htm

Online Forms:
http://www.judiciary.gov.hk/en/crt_services/forms/sc.htm



Hong Kong Police: e-mail:  [email protected]

 (these people have been responsive)

This is Detective Investigation Team 3 of Wan Chai Police Station. To
clarify the nature of your report, we would like to obtain more information
about your report for further investigation.
 
Please answer the following details via e-mail:  
-  Did you have any financial loss?
-  Will you come to Hong Kong to give a formal statement?
 
If you have enqury, please feel free to contact with police constable 8259
at 852-3660 7563 or reply via e-mail, thanks.
 
Best Regards,
 
DPC 8259 Mr. LAW
DIT 3 WCHDIST
Tel: 3660 7563
Fax: 2824 0438


China:

Shenzhen Consumer Council provided by a legal firm in Shenzhen.  Complaints can be filed through this agency.

Pages are in Chinese, so you will have to translate them if this is not your language.

http://www.sz315.org/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=10




China Consumer's Association

http://www.cca.org.cn/english/index.jsp


http://www.consumersinternational.org/our-members/member-directory/China%20Consumers%20Association

e-mail:  [email protected]


Australia:[/size]

Australian buyers can also report to ACCC @ http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/complaints-problems/make-a-consumer-complaint
According to ACCC, Australian consumer law protects Australian even sellers / vendors are not located in Australia as long as the sale agreement / contract takes place within Australia.



General

For anyone that wants to let Coindesk know what's going on:

www.coindesk.com/contact-us/

Hong Kong Police: e-mail:  [email protected]

 (these people have been responsive)

This is Detective Investigation Team 3 of Wan Chai Police Station. To
clarify the nature of your report, we would like to obtain more information
about your report for further investigation.
 
Please answer the following details via e-mail: 
-  Did you have any financial loss?
-  Will you come to Hong Kong to give a formal statement?
 
If you have enqury, please feel free to contact with police constable 8259
at 852-3660 7563 or reply via e-mail, thanks.
 
Best Regards,
 
DPC 8259 Mr. LAW
DIT 3 WCHDIST
Tel: 3660 7563
Fax: 2824 0438

Black arrow have decimated their own thread to try and hide their gross incompetency and it's worth noting that Theymos has kindly restored a lot of the deleted comments into a new thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-black-arrow-28nm-100ghash-bitcoin-asic-from-049ghs-774278

I've said it elsewhere, but basically:
blackarrow should be banned from the forum for abuse of the moderated thread system to try and hide their faults and scam more victims at the conference. This is nothing short of deserving of a scammer tag. Can we make it happen.

I have been constantly ignored and denied refunds just like so many other people..I have an appointment with my lawyer tuesday for some personal matters-so I'm going to run this situation by him and see what he says..Might as well-hes getting my money either way..haha..

This was the first one of several: http://ecointalk.net/topic/1348-my-x3-caught-fire/

So I haven't seen any photos of a burnt up unit can anyone link me to em?

I might just make a thread and post them there since this affects my signature campaign contract.

Are you going to respost them though?

He deleted over 800 consecutive posts in total to date in a very short period of time. I think Alex Sovu and Joshua Zipkin of AMT are out on a drinking binge somewhere in Eastern Europe.

I just had 281 posts deleted by Black Arrow. He spent a good 40 minutes just deleting my posts. This guy is mentally ill.

wire fraud:


18 U.S.C. § 1343 provides:

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.[2]


that type of stuff is handled by the FBI, who can be contacted here:

http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/when


I don't know that the FBI would think this rises to the level of wire fraud, although they've issued plenty of promises which have been broken. 

Anyone that would like to contact them is of course welcome to do so.  We can let the FBI decide if it is worth their time or not.

Nice job.  People should pile on to that lawsuit if possible.

It is important that people that are on the fence make up their minds.  There is only strength in numbers on this issue, so the law firm will need to see those numbers.

Now is the time, folks.