Bounty hunters killed ICO? - page 9.

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Quote from: dtb.agency on August 13, 2019, 11:15:15 AM

1) a project collected funds,
2) Funds allocation (among advisors, bla bla bla and bounty hunters)
3) Considering there are thousands of BH, the price of a token dropped dramatically
4) Investors bought token on ICO see this crap and less people invest in ICOs.

True or False?

This is a nonsense thread why did you accusing Bounty hunters that killed the ICO were is the sense and logical evidences to support your accusation, Its a false accusation you know why!
1. ICO still existing at these moment.
2. Most of the time bounty allocation was just base on the sold tokens! and not just what you portrayed like its a super big allocation!
3. Earned bounty tokens are payments from the promotion of the ICO so whats your point while you are using "Free tokens"
4. I'm also participated in some ICO's and Ive been scammed 4 times already, and because of that after the ICO and the token was listed im quickly sell my token in ICO price im not bothering the price anymore because i have earned bonuses during the early part of the ICO you know why because i know how the market works these is not 2016-2017 already the crypto-space has change a lot.

The real causes why the most ICO's was not that succesfull comparing before thats because of the scams and other fraudulent acts and Bounty hunters has nothing to do with this!

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I choose false. Bounty hunters always hold a fraction of the majority of coins that we see on the market. They have a little influence on the price of a token. Considering what you said, what if there are a 100,000 bounty hunters each with 200 tokens of a coin with a circulation supply of over 1 billion, do you expect these bounty hunter to cause a drop in the price compared to pre-sale and early birds participants who who as high as 200% bonus?
If a coin drops in price, I think it isn't from bounty hunters and if they may be part, their impact isn't as huge as other factors that aren't usually mentioned.

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Quote from: moynul2050 on August 21, 2019, 05:16:44 AM

Quote from: TrevorS on August 20, 2019, 06:11:23 PM

How can ICO kill bounty hunters who receive only 1% at the best 2% of the total bullet. How can 2% affect the price of a good project that has good volumes on the exchange?
ICO killed the scam and not the bounty hunters.

yes, the scammer is the one to blame, not the bounty hunter, or even the DEV who dumps tokens that are not sold and they don't burn.
it is they who actually killed ICO.

Exactly it's the DEVS who should be blamed here, it's their business so they should manage it properly for them to succeed.
Bounty hunters are just workers who are paid a fix small amount from the money they raise and it will only cause a dump if they are stupid enough to allow it, I mean they can't stop the bounty hunters from selling but they should at least build some volume to avoid dump, a buy back for example but actually that is not necessary if they will make an effort to get the project listed in big exchange.

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I don't think bounty hunters are the main reason that ICOS are not being used by people as a form of investment right now, there are lots of fake and scam ICOS which people worldwide already know so they already lose trust with ICO and now participating on IEOS.

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Quote from: TrevorS on August 20, 2019, 06:11:23 PM

How can ICO kill bounty hunters who receive only 1% at the best 2% of the total bullet. How can 2% affect the price of a good project that has good volumes on the exchange?
ICO killed the scam and not the bounty hunters.

yes, the scammer is the one to blame, not the bounty hunter, or even the DEV who dumps tokens that are not sold and they don't burn.
it is they who actually killed ICO.

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Quote from: dtb.agency on August 15, 2019, 04:34:54 AM

99% from all respondents here are bounty guys (according to signatures) Grin

You did mention bounty hunters in your title, so therefore they responded.

If you name your topic " Greedy teams and private investors killed ICO market" i am sure different kind of people would respond.And that would actually be the truth, THEY over saturated and consequently killed the ICO market with their crap projects.

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Bounty hunters got no chill. They sell their tokens at ridiculous price just because they want to get paid for their efforts on the project. Investors then realize their losses and so avoid anything ico from then on

ICO projects did mistakes with hunters. They should have arranged payments at several months after listing on exchange at installments. But investors will still end up dumping the price anyway.

Look at Coti for example. Listed a couple of months ago. Hunters won't be paid till December 2019 or January 2020 yet investors have dumped the token price badly. Hunters will be left with peanuts at the end of the day

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To be honest, bounty hunters do play a big role in the death of ICOs.

However, that was mainly because the project owners do not pay hunters in bitcoin or ethereum. They pay in the projects native tokens which make hunters dump them in order to get their payments for services rendered. Also, payment of bounty hunters is done poorly sometimes. They pay hunters before project listing and so hunters dump price. Investors see this and avoid ICO

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In my opinion it will not be a loss because if we look at this time it is precisely the ico that is advantageous for the promotion of their projects in order to reach the cryptocurrency community and also information faster than using advertisements that are not necessarily successful in being able to get investors,on the other hand the participants also benefit from this work in the form of rewards.

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Maybe the projects from 2017 should have used their funds wisely and actually develop something for the shitload of money they received. Most of the projects from the ICO-hype didn't deliver what they promised, a lot even ran out of funds or are now facing liquidity issues in this bear market. It's no wonder people don't wanna waste their money on false promises anymore. You can't blame bounty hunters for that.

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This analysis is not completely true..Sometimes the absence of proper development plan cause this dump in price..Some of this developers are clueless, distribute their coins at the worse possible time and facilitate the dump as an escuse to dump their own bags om investors..Bounty distribition should be systematic and done when the token has masskve liquidity...Not before.

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How can ICO kill bounty hunters who receive only 1% at the best 2% of the total bullet. How can 2% affect the price of a good project that has good volumes on the exchange?
ICO killed the scam and not the bounty hunters.

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hahaha....i think you should do your maths and research well. Bounty hunters were thousands yeah, but they had something small which couldn't even "move" a healthy market.
Moreover, many projects that died never paid hunters, delayed payments, reduced payments, locked up payments, etc etc and yet still they died.
We were in a bubble and it busted...don't blame bounty hunters hehee

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Quote from: Oyarebu on August 20, 2019, 04:03:20 PM

Quote from: renault18turbo on August 20, 2019, 03:50:19 PM

First of all, you have to keep in mind that bounty pool is only 1-2% from total supply. Now answer, how 1-2% of liquids can dump the price?

Thus is what I have been wondering about because that percentage will not lead to dumping of the tokens or coins, I onces told my friends that, haven such percentage like the one above can't perform the job of dumping. I think the project team actually have some secret they are operating with, which can be trance to the dumping. Possibly most of these projects operate underground in respect to how tokens are been dump.

The 1-2% of all total supply coin or token is not enough to cause the dump in the price of a project but I don't think the project team have some sort of secret they operate which trance the dump in price because some project owners actually believed in the project concept and skills which are not enough to make a project survive in the crypto market. What I mean is that they also need some advice and direction from a crypto enthusiast which understand perfectly what the crypto sphere want and how to target the audience.

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Quote from: buyasicru on August 19, 2019, 12:20:49 PM

pre-sales bonuses more than 50% - is killer of the projects...and get investors rekt...

Yes, but that’s not all, you need to remember that some projects conduct gigantic token swap with other ICO projects, and then announces successfully received "investments", modestly silent about the fact that this was a token swap. And an ordinary investor sees that the project has already collected a decent amount and invests. Then our project, which received such an “investment,” begins to be traded on the exchange, and another project, the “investor”, which has tokens in its hands for a large amount, starts selling them, bringing down the price. This was a common practice with not-so-popular ICOs in 2018.

Can i ask you which is the project that has been doing such a model? It's too rarely for me to find an ICO that was doing swap with another ICO project. Majority of the dump driven by the pre sale investors and it's true.
I tell you when there was someone who has already participated in pre-sale which was putting 10 cents as the pre-sale price and then when it goes to the exchange site and then the price hits more than 20 cents and as an investor in the pre-sale price and can he dump it instantly? the answer is he can.

Of the cases that I know of are projects that conducted their ICOs in 2018 using the ICOBOX platform - for example, AgentMiles, LaneAxis and Terawatt.

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Quote from: renault18turbo on August 20, 2019, 03:50:19 PM

First of all, you have to keep in mind that bounty pool is only 1-2% from total supply. Now answer, how 1-2% of liquids can dump the price?

Thus is what I have been wondering about because that percentage will not lead to dumping of the tokens or coins, I onces told my friends that, haven such percentage like the one above can't perform the job of dumping. I think the project team actually have some secret they are operating with, which can be trance to the dumping. Possibly most of these projects operate underground in respect to how tokens are been dump.

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First of all, you have to keep in mind that bounty pool is only 1-2% from total supply. Now answer, how 1-2% of liquids can dump the price?

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Quote from: Banrkim on August 19, 2019, 06:34:50 PM

Once I used to get bounty tokens, I sold them straight a way. Asap.

This is one of the reasons why they blame bounty hunters. Can you imagine if all bounty hunters do the same way as you did?
The token/coin price should be dropped significantly when you all sell all your bounty tokens immediately.
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That's what I'm trying to say to all here. And imho they really do it.
P.S. not blaming anyone

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Quote from: dtb.agency on August 13, 2019, 11:15:15 AM

1) a project collected funds,
2) Funds allocation (among advisors, bla bla bla and bounty hunters)
3) Considering there are thousands of BH, the price of a token dropped dramatically
4) Investors bought token on ICO see this crap and less people invest in ICOs.

True or False?

Pay attention to the bounty campaigns of various projects. They pay bounty hunters an average of 1-2% in tokens of the investments they have collected during the ICO. If the project collects one million dollars, then the bounty hunters will receive a total amount of 10-20 thousand dollars for all. Do you really think that such a small amount can have such a serious impact on the price of a good and popular token? I think that it can’t.
If projects are afraid of dumps from bounty hunters, then why not pay for their work in ETH?

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It hase been discussed here many times, bounty participants can´t cause a huge dump when they own together only 1-2% of all existing tokens.

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