Bounty hunters killed ICO? - page 10.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 19, 2019, 07:59:25 PM

Quote from: Banrkim on August 19, 2019, 07:34:50 PM

Once I used to get bounty tokens, I sold them straight a way. Asap.

This is one of the reasons why they blame bounty hunters. Can you imagine if all bounty hunters do the same way as you did?
The token/coin price should be dropped significantly when you all sell all your bounty tokens immediately.

blaming bounty hunters cause they sell their token is not true. in fact, price down after hitting exchange is no longer as far as i know if devs really working on their project.
look back to 2017 and early Q1 2018, there was a btc bullrun, every ICO make a grear return in short and mid term.
how much token allocation for bounty? it's not above 10% of total supply.

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Bounty hunters is almost free advertising for the project. If they sell their tokens, then accusing them of falling the price of the token is ridiculous.

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Reading from the comments about this topic, in the end of the day it's a mistake by the ICO devs in doing business. Because the bounty hunters does not have any control on what should be the next moves to be done in the project.

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Bounty hunters are not the cause of the down patronizing of ICO. IEOs offered unique advantages which has now won the interests of investors due to the smooth transactions made on the exchange platforms during the token sales. Also, the coins undergoing IEO have the opportunity to get listed on the exchange after the IEO period.

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Quote from: dtb.agency on August 13, 2019, 12:15:15 PM

1) a project collected funds,
2) Funds allocation (among advisors, bla bla bla and bounty hunters)
3) Considering there are thousands of BH, the price of a token dropped dramatically
4) Investors bought token on ICO see this crap and less people invest in ICOs.

True or False?

I don't think so. I do not understand why people would prefer to invest when the ICO is running and not when they are registered in the country, even though it is very high risk if the ICO is not successful and not registered in the future. I am a prize hunter as well as an investor, but I don't recommend investing in an ongoing ICO.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 19, 2019, 07:59:25 PM

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Reserved.

What do you mean by "reserved"?

It is professional desease for bounty hunters Grin

Regarding the topic, I usually sell bounty tokens as soon as possible unless I feel there can be higher profit. There are lots of hints.

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Quote from: Arti_Tsy on August 19, 2019, 01:47:04 PM

Quote from: buyasicru on August 19, 2019, 01:20:49 PM

pre-sales bonuses more than 50% - is killer of the projects...and get investors rekt...

Yes, but that’s not all, you need to remember that some projects conduct gigantic token swap with other ICO projects, and then announces successfully received "investments", modestly silent about the fact that this was a token swap. And an ordinary investor sees that the project has already collected a decent amount and invests. Then our project, which received such an “investment,” begins to be traded on the exchange, and another project, the “investor”, which has tokens in its hands for a large amount, starts selling them, bringing down the price. This was a common practice with not-so-popular ICOs in 2018.

Can i ask you which is the project that has been doing such a model? It's too rarely for me to find an ICO that was doing swap with another ICO project. Majority of the dump driven by the pre sale investors and it's true.
I tell you when there was someone who has already participated in pre-sale which was putting 10 cents as the pre-sale price and then when it goes to the exchange site and then the price hits more than 20 cents and as an investor in the pre-sale price and can he dump it instantly? the answer is he can.

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Reserved.

What do you mean by "reserved"? Huh

Quote from: Banrkim on August 19, 2019, 07:34:50 PM

Once I used to get bounty tokens, I sold them straight a way. Asap.

This is one of the reasons why they blame bounty hunters. Can you imagine if all bounty hunters do the same way as you did?
The token/coin price should be dropped significantly when you all sell all your bounty tokens immediately.

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Once I used to get bounty tokens, I sold them straight a way. Asap. And only few times I had a reason to regret. Usually they dropped, otherwise ICOs would collect as much as two years ago

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Quote from: buyasicru on August 19, 2019, 01:20:49 PM

pre-sales bonuses more than 50% - is killer of the projects...and get investors rekt...

Yes, but that’s not all, you need to remember that some projects conduct gigantic token swap with other ICO projects, and then announces successfully received "investments", modestly silent about the fact that this was a token swap. And an ordinary investor sees that the project has already collected a decent amount and invests. Then our project, which received such an “investment,” begins to be traded on the exchange, and another project, the “investor”, which has tokens in its hands for a large amount, starts selling them, bringing down the price. This was a common practice with not-so-popular ICOs in 2018.

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Quote from: nightxglow on August 19, 2019, 10:04:26 AM

Yes it's kinda true. I saw many successful icos that had promising coins in the past but they don't survive long because they distributed the coins to the bounty hunters early. Many bounty hunters don't intend to hold the coin or make use of it. But they just care of receiving it and selling it immediately to get money. That made the price crash and this then make many people lost interest in investing. And also there were so many scams that made people lost trust too, and bitcoin price dropped also became one of the reason. Now i can hardly find any bounty and ico again. Unless how it is in the past.

Perhaps it makes sense for ICO teams to think about passive income to their token holders. Then there will be material motivation to keep received new tokens. Now, not only bounty hunters, but investors are just looking to sell them more profitably. It is necessary to switch to the payment of dividends, this will resemble the stock market, however, this will change the entire cryptocurrency market. Including, the problem of the high volatility of the cryptocurrency should also be solved.

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Bounty hunters dont KILL ICO, they support and advertise it.
When it comes to token payment, then why the team just pay in ETHEREUM or BTC?
If it is about the dumping of tokens, lemme remind you that BH only have small amount of allocation compare to investors.

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pre-sales bonuses more than 50% - is killer of the projects...and get investors rekt...

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How can 3-5% of coins collapse the project? This is normally the amount of coins distributed among bounty hunters. Very often, the price of a coin falls long before the coins get bounty hunters. Well, that's their income. They see a drop and want to sell their coins so as not to lose even more.

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Yes it's kinda true. I saw many successful icos that had promising coins in the past but they don't survive long because they distributed the coins to the bounty hunters early. Many bounty hunters don't intend to hold the coin or make use of it. But they just care of receiving it and selling it immediately to get money. That made the price crash and this then make many people lost interest in investing. And also there were so many scams that made people lost trust too, and bitcoin price dropped also became one of the reason. Now i can hardly find any bounty and ico again. Unless how it is in the past.

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Quote from: mr_random on August 19, 2019, 09:35:24 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on August 19, 2019, 09:29:18 AM

I don't see any reason either why bounty hunters will be the one who killed an ICO if the project team involving are up to the task and well experienced but if we still have a situation where some people still believe the bounty hunters are the causes then I will advice project owners to pay their bounty participants in ETH rather than paying them in their token to avoid future misconception.

ETH reward bounty campaigns don't last long, the token paying bounties usually like to delay the bounty distribution. Allocation of the tokens is manipulated by the bounty manager, only few of them are managing the bounty campaigns as a loyal manager. Teams check the bounty portfolios in order to find the correct person for managing their marketing plans with the bounty campaigns.

yes, it is very short, and not with the allocation of many bounty campaigns with ETH rewards. most of what I have seen they pay with bitcoin and very limited number of participants. if the ICO project could choose a manager campaign like that, surely no ICO would be difficult to develop. or who feel disadvantaged by bounty hunters who make their tokens dump.

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its nor right,What killed ICOs is the bear market and investors realization of what a mistake ICOs were coupled with the scamming events faced by investors

Yes, bear market contributed to why ICO is very down now, but what also led to bear market, is it not the establishment of bad ICO which hunters promoted? The lack of strength to push project discouraged investors from putting money in ICO but rather pull out of ICO.

If we say bear market, how come we still have some of those altcoins ranked as top in coin market still doing fine, while most of those other ones promoted by hunters are the ones not rising at all, so they still contributed, but the good news is that something can still be done, if only we can just focus on promoting very quality project because we have investors that are always ready to invest, they are just scared of scam projects, but I believe if we can get a quality and verified projects, they will be willing to join us.

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FALSE!!!

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1) a project collected funds,

-for a project to be successful they need to collect funds.

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2) Funds allocation (among advisors, bla bla bla and bounty hunters)

We are talking about bounty hunters, but still the percentage of budget for bounty is very small!

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3) Considering there are thousands of BH, the price of a token dropped dramatically

Even there are millions of BH in the project, the number of tokens still has fix allocation.

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4) Investors bought token on ICO see this crap and less people invest in ICOs.

Most investors dont want to join any ICO now as there were so many scam before,.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on August 19, 2019, 09:29:18 AM

I don't see any reason either why bounty hunters will be the one who killed an ICO if the project team involving are up to the task and well experienced but if we still have a situation where some people still believe the bounty hunters are the causes then I will advice project owners to pay their bounty participants in ETH rather than paying them in their token to avoid future misconception.

ETH reward bounty campaigns don't last long, the token paying bounties usually like to delay the bounty distribution. Allocation of the tokens is manipulated by the bounty manager, only few of them are managing the bounty campaigns as a loyal manager. Teams check the bounty portfolios in order to find the correct person for managing their marketing plans with the bounty campaigns.

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