[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 2.

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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.

And notice we can really see the difference between the two fighters the experience of Anderson Silva in boxing is really greater than Tito Ortiz he can see Ortiz movement as clear as day, and I am adding that as I was watching I can really see the vintage Silva on the action,

I think Anderson Silva has the potential to really keep on with boxing if not with Champion boxers but with experience boxers he can surely compete with them, and I want to see Silva do that.

People expect a lot from Silva now because he won by KO in the first round, this guy really is smart, he doesn't need to be the one who is the aggressor but he is just waiting for the right timing, maybe next time if someone will challenge him, they will think twice of attacking him as his counter punching skills is very accurate and he has a powerful punch.

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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.

And notice we can really see the difference between the two fighters the experience of Anderson Silva in boxing is really greater than Tito Ortiz he can see Ortiz movement as clear as day, and I am adding that as I was watching I can really see the vintage Silva on the action,

I think Anderson Silva has the potential to really keep on with boxing if not with Champion boxers but with experience boxers he can surely compete with them, and I want to see Silva do that.

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I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

That observation is true. Silva allows Ortiz to keep throwing punches and test some of those and after realizing that, it won't hurt him much
he starts to give some jabs, Ortiz strategy is not appropriate since Silva is more quicker than him, he over spends his energy by throwing useless punches.

When Silva sees the opportunities to throw the big blow, we see what happened next, it's just need two solid punches to put Ortiz
down and finished the match.

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~ Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.

Silva 's victory was well deserved, no doubt about that, but still to me it didn't look like Tito was going to fight to death, you know. After receiving the very first good punch from Silva, he decided to give up, and what he was doing during the following seconds - he was trying to avoid getting more punches before reaching the floor. I lost my bet, but I don't blame him. No need to be getting hurt more when you know you are doomed. The guy's 46 after all, and his kids need him.

I agree Tito Ortiz was very slow compared to Anderson Silva and the way Silva fought inside the ring he is surely waiting a couple of minutes inside the ring letting his opponent show an opening before striking and he didn't need much time to exposed Tito Ortiz, he has surely seen all capabilities of Ortiz and finding that opportunity you can see the experience of Silva and who's really the better boxer,

I don't know but after seeing this it is still a good job for Tito for realizing how far Silva for him, that counter from Silva really shock and stun Tito Ortiz, Silva has aged better as a fighter inside the ring no doubt about it.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on September 14, 2021, 10:47:22 AM

~ Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.

Silva 's victory was well deserved, no doubt about that, but still to me it didn't look like Tito was going to fight to death, you know. After receiving the very first good punch from Silva, he decided to give up, and what he was doing during the following seconds - he was trying to avoid getting more punches before reaching the floor. I lost my bet, but I don't blame him. No need to be getting hurt more when you know you are doomed. The guy's 46 after all, and his kids need him.

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I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed. If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

No, I don't think so I don't think any of Paul will fight Silva, Silva is the real deal and he fights like a real professional boxer, Jake Paul can only fight Amateur fighters or retired fighters, Silva will humiliate him, hurt him and knock him out and that will end his career in exhibition boxing, he will shy or ignore an invitation to fight Silva because he knows what's going to happen to his career, and on fighting Mayweather, there's a possibility as long as the price is right for Mayweather.

I also don't think that Mayweather will be viable for Silva as this point.

Would rather see him Jake Paul, wonder though how will this fight going to be promoted by Jake Paul since he also pull some pranks and of course talk trash. As we all know that Silva native language is Brazilian and maybe there could be some gap in trash talk, Lol. In any case, for sure Silva will love to continue to have career after his MMA years, and boxing is giving him some good money too.

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This victory means a lot to Silva, because it is the second victory since switching careers from UFC to Boxing, actually I really hope the fight will last a few rounds to see the resilience of the two former UFC in the ring, but Ortiz's appearance started aggressively attacking silva from the first second, apparently backfired on himself because he was engrossed in attacking and reckless, only to be hit by a strong right hook from silva to make ortiz stagger before silva finally finished off Ortiz in the first round.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 14, 2021, 06:24:09 AM

I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed. If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

You cannot count down the earning power of Floyd Mayweather, whenever he fights he is able to attract huge crowds and thereby huge money and he is not even in their weight class to fight Anderson Silva or Vitor Belfort. Recently Vitor Belfort challenged Jake Paul for a fight and i am sure it can be a huge fight but there is no positive response from Jake Paul as he shrugged off his challenge.

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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

You are right, when they are fights for exhibition it does not give the same emotion, I honestly was not surprised that Silva won by KO, seeing the fighting style with his technique was much superior, however I did not see that Ortiz was very fit, either. Sometimes the athletes do not have their day, sometimes they wake up without so much strength, without so much desire and I think Ortiz went to that fight more because of commitment and pressure than because of preparation, although his preparation was good, he was not at the level, so it was demonstrated in the ring.

I hope that Ortiz has gotten a good learning and can recover emotionally, the fact of losing by K.O is something very difficult for any fighter.

I was more surprised that Ortiz thought he could KO Silva easily, in the first round he was already very aggressive like he was trying to finish the fight early, because of that, he lose his defense and he was not able to see the counter of Silva which hurt him and put him asleep. Hopefully, he will learn from that, and if he will ever fight again, he should be more careful, it's always good to make money while keeping yourself safe regardless of the outcome.

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I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

You are right, when they are fights for exhibition it does not give the same emotion, I honestly was not surprised that Silva won by KO, seeing the fighting style with his technique was much superior, however I did not see that Ortiz was very fit, either. Sometimes the athletes do not have their day, sometimes they wake up without so much strength, without so much desire and I think Ortiz went to that fight more because of commitment and pressure than because of preparation, although his preparation was good, he was not at the level, so it was demonstrated in the ring.

I hope that Ortiz has gotten a good learning and can recover emotionally, the fact of losing by K.O is something very difficult for any fighter.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.

Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.

How do you know that? Did you read that somewhere? Would you say the same thing if Tito Ortiz had won? I'm not sure about that. Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.

Exactly! Some people on here came into this thinking there was a 50-50 chance between the both of them, but those people seemed to have never watched one fight of either of them. Silva did what he does the best and executed everything perfectly. Good on him because his fight against Julio César Chávez was a rear good Boxing fight.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 14, 2021, 06:24:09 AM

I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed. If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

No, I don't think so I don't think any of Paul will fight Silva, Silva is the real deal and he fights like a real professional boxer, Jake Paul can only fight Amateur fighters or retired fighters, Silva will humiliate him, hurt him and knock him out and that will end his career in exhibition boxing, he will shy or ignore an invitation to fight Silva because he knows what's going to happen to his career, and on fighting Mayweather, there's a possibility as long as the price is right for Mayweather.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.

Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.

How do you know that? Did you read that somewhere? Would you say the same thing if Tito Ortiz had won? I'm not sure about that. Anderson Silva was the huge favorite of this fight at every bookmakers and for almost all people enjoying boxing and MMA IMO. Then he just won because he was better than Ortiz. That's it, there is no need to disrespect his undeniable victory.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2021, 05:36:13 AM

@bbc.reporter - "just the follow the money", so right now the cash cow in exhibitions matches are Floyd and the Paul brothers, so maybe we can see Silva fighting either of the two for bigger pay check.

I hope they will not fight Mayweather, the fight will be boring, that's 100% guaranteed. If he wants so real fight, he should go for Jake Paul, this guy is undefeated and he can surely give a good fight against Silva, who knows if Silva could end his winning streak.

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Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Agree. He didn't stopped training and has a regular activity of it. Not just to prepare for a fight but part of his maintaining his physical activity.

And the advantage of it was, he is always well-prepared now that he is consider to participate in an exhibition match to make money out of retirement.

Yeah, and that's what separates elite athletes is that after they retire, they were able to maintain their body and overall health, unlike others who gain so much weight (although it comes with age).

@bbc.reporter - "just the follow the money", so right now the cash cow in exhibitions matches are Floyd and the Paul brothers, so maybe we can see Silva fighting either of the two for bigger pay check.

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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.

Hehehe I was only joking and being sarcastic. It has also showed that Tito Ortiz might not have trained very well for the fight. It was only an exhibition match and the result will not be recorded. He only wanted to go in the ring, collect his money and go home to his girlfriend hehehe.

Also, it appears Anderson wants more money hehehe.

Speaking at the Triller post-fight press conference, Anderson Silva expressed interest in fighting the Paul brothers, as he respects the way they conduct business.

“I respect both. The kids are doing good and working hard to be successful in this entertainment show. And let’s go see. Maybe this is possible too.” Silva said.

Silva then formally offered the Paul brothers the opportunity to fight him and Belfort at a later date.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2021/09/anderson-silva-offers-paul-bros-a-chance-to-fight-him-and-belfort/

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 13, 2021, 05:44:41 PM

Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Agree. He didn't stopped training and has a regular activity of it. Not just to prepare for a fight but part of his maintaining his physical activity.

And the advantage of it was, he is always well-prepared now that he is consider to participate in an exhibition match to make money out of retirement.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 04:51:02 PM

Quote from: Maslate on September 13, 2021, 08:26:45 AM

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

Yes, obviously, Silva is no longer in his prime, but he is a cerebral martial artist, he still maintain his body and still practices it even in boxing, so you could see the discipline, that's why he was able to win against Tito who seems to be out of shape to me.

Although post fight interview says he is unsure of his future, but definitely I'm speculating that he will have another boxing fight. Names like Jake Paul or even Roy Jones Jr.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 13, 2021, 08:26:45 AM

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

Hmm, thanks for that info @Maslate

I just saw some highlights of the fight and it was pretty quick (in my point of view)

Although, Anderson Silva is 46 years old, I believe he is in good shape, not in his prime!!

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM

Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh

. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.

Both of them are slow, but Tito's punches can be seen by Anderson, that's why he has dodge it and he know's that he can still be hurt by those punches even if it is not that strong, so he just go with the motions to duck at least. As as I have said, the punch from Tito is very predictable, and in boxing if you do that your opponent can read you and be ready for a counter and that's why happen here. He was caught with a big punch from Silva, yeah you can call it unfair because Tito has no experienced in boxing.

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