[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 8.

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Quote from: nitrobetting on September 05, 2021, 08:03:30 PM

I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.

Yeah, we will see how Tito's body will respond on this fight. If he wanted out of shape or at least gasses out, then I'm seeing Silva knocking him down or out in this fight.

If he come prepared, then at least he could give us a entertaining fight till it last. Yes, Silva is well rounded, as he last fought with a pro boxer and really has the edge here. At least Tito can make money even if he losses against Anderson. And probably Anderson will continue to fight, and maybe see him challenge the winner of Holyfield vs Belfort.

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I'm a fan of UFC and I respect both fighters. I'm concerned about Tito Ortiz on this one since he's not really a boxer and he hasn't really won his previous tenure in UFC being dominant in his stand up game. Silva has the edge when it comes to striking but Tito can make this a fight. They're both 46 yrs. old and we all know this is more of a money fight than a real competition. Anderson is my solid pick on this one.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 05, 2021, 06:49:59 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on September 05, 2021, 04:07:20 PM

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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

You did not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement Cheesy

. The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field Tongue

. I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

This one, I think, is worth just watching for entertainment purposes. But for heavy betting, I don't think this is worth to place on in my opinion. We grew up hearing name of Holyfield but with his age today, I don't think he has the same stamina to even stay in the ring. Just another exhibition fight to watch without pressure.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 05, 2021, 04:07:20 PM

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Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

You did not see Evander Holyfield fight after his retirement Cheesy

. The meaning itself is stopping what they are doing now and moving on to another field Tongue

. I was expecting Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson batting and it could have attracted a huge crowd but fighting against Vitor Belfort does not give you the same level of excitement.

They need to revise the rules and not ask them to fight like a professional fight just for the safety of the fighters and respect their age.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 05, 2021, 03:48:17 PM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 04, 2021, 03:46:30 PM

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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.

Another substituted fight, Holyfield is a legend, but let's see if he can still fight aggressively despite his age. There's a big age gap, and since I did not see Holyfield fight after his retirement, then I think I would not be on him this time, not betting on this fight actually, just want to have fun watching it with my beers on the table.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 04, 2021, 03:46:30 PM

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I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

That is a huge change in the fight experience i was expecting. Oscar De La Hoya returning at 48 and Vitor Belfort at 44 years was interesting but Evander Holyfield is a legend of the sport but 58 years of age. I am still expecting Evander Holyfield to win the fight because of his boxing skills but i am not sure about his conditioning.

Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 04, 2021, 03:46:30 PM

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

Silva is the superior fight, as i said earlier in this thread Anderson silva will beat Tito Ortiz in any competitive sport, be it MMA, BJJ or Boxing on the wrestling front Tito Ortiz might have an advantage but the rest Anderson Silva is far far superior.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 04, 2021, 11:04:27 PM

I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Holyfield is now the replacement for Oscar, I'm sure he is also disappointed contracting the virus because he is really on the go to make a comeback fight. Unfortunately, in the world we live in today, the enemy is invincible.

Quote from: agustina2 on September 04, 2021, 11:04:27 PM

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

Hopefully they will, they should learn from Oscar here. Don't go outside of public places and limit themselves around many people until fight night. Money has been invested on this fight and there's no way that it will be cancelled by the promotional company.

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I didn't expect that I am not gonna see De La Hoya anymore, with the current news, I think he will not anymore fight this year, so let's see who will be able to replace him as the fight is the main event, they should still keep the excitement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-withdraws-vitor-belfort-fight-n1278513

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 04, 2021, 11:36:08 PM

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.

They needed not to go out anymore to insure that they would not get the virus,

this example will alarm everyone about this virus as even you already got vaccinated, the chance to get infected still high.

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Casting my bet for Tito the underdog. Wink

Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.

That's the spirit bro! huge outcome with the risk that you are taking now, who knows maybe it's a script that this event promoters already setup.

few more days left , best of luck !

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 03, 2021, 09:43:50 AM

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

Actually he doesn't even need to read the whole thread. It's in the title. Grin

Quote from: agustina2 on September 04, 2021, 11:04:27 PM

I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32141180/oscar-de-la-hoya-hospitalized-covid-19-vitor-belfort-now-face-evander-holyfield
They are forgetful about the fact that its not a perfect vaccine. Most are 80-90 percent protection against COVID and they should still wear their face mask wherever they will go or whoever they will meet. Let this be a lesson for our physical sports athletes. They still need to be careful until the match starts.
Casting my bet for Tito the underdog. Wink

Let's hope they will not try to pin down each other forgetting it's boxing or use a kick because of unintentional reflex actions.

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I don't know there's a change of event between Dela Hoya and Belfort. So Evander Holyfield will now replace DeLa Hoya for the main event.

Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz should take care of themselves and as much as possible limit their presence to many people until the fight happened. It's a disappointing scenario if they will contract the virus when it's only a few days before the match.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 04, 2021, 03:46:30 PM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 04, 2021, 10:42:56 AM

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 03, 2021, 07:27:05 AM

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

Yes, I was shocked to hear the news that Oscar contracted covid-19, he didn't take care of himself, he knows that he has a match. Anyhow, the fight is not totally scrapped, Evander Holyfield step up and willing to engage Belfort here.

But the bout will move to Florida instead, ticket price remains.

And I'm sure how Vitor will hold up against a heavyweight here. I reckon that this match is going to be fix and will last the full 8 rounds and could be a draw.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 03, 2021, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on September 03, 2021, 07:27:05 AM

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

This is a different sports that requires a lot of patience before if you don’t have it, you might lose control and this could be a disaster for you, though they’ve used to fight in MMA I guess they already trained to become a boxer now. Ortiz will race a huge fighter here, and it wont be easy for him but he has the chance to take the title, this could be a fight of patience. Well, as long as there’s a money some fighters will do it even if its on a different genre.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 04, 2021, 10:42:56 AM

Quote from: Sanugarid on September 03, 2021, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on September 03, 2021, 07:27:05 AM

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

I'm sorry to say but Oscar de la Hoya can't compete because he contracted covid - https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/03/us/oscar-de-la-hoya-covid-spt-intl/index.html. So instead of him Belfort will fight Evander Holyfield.

Now, with Silva vs. Ortiz, Silva I believe has the upper hand here as he has boxing experience. But no odds yet for this match.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 03, 2021, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on September 03, 2021, 07:27:05 AM

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

it looks like the fight will be very interesting to watch, especially since both boxers are former UFC fighters, so they have the same characteristics in every fight, but interestingly this is Tito Ortiz first boxing match, because so far he has never played a boxing fight in his professional career and Unlike the case with Anderson Silva, who has played several professional boxing matches in his new career, maybe I personally would prefer that Anderson Silva will be able to knock out Tito in that match.
But to be honest, I'm more waiting to see the main fight which is the comeback of Oscar de la Hoya after a 12 year absence.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on September 03, 2021, 04:53:31 AM

But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he's still young I tend to agree with you, but he's already 46 years old and it's father time as he matured. I wouldn't expect anything for old people with no experience, I say no experience because he never in boxing before... he's a MMA fighter. I believe he will just play safely and play with strategy he more comfortable.

Quote from: Beparanf on September 03, 2021, 04:58:35 AM

I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight.

I don't think so, the serious injuries he had was 7 years ago when he break his leg. But this is boxing not muay thai or kickboxing... so it's not really a problem, Silva is still prime with his current condition and age right now.

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The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.

Not much to look forward to actually. And you are wrong, both Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz are not boxers. They are mixed martial arts fighters who are now looking for some money in boxing. You are also wrong to say that they are on top of their games. They are not even in their best shapes anymore. They are already old fighters. And the driving force in this match is not their desire to win but their desire to earn even after retirement.

Unfortunately this seems to be the case, however I find interesting that promoters decided to make the fight, after all they are taking a risk, boxing has already returned on full force and we are seeing the best of the best fighting against each other again and we have seen some good fights already, if this was done during the pandemic as several exhibitions fight that we watched then this could make more sense as everyone wanted to some some sports regardless of the quality, but to do this now under the current circumstances makes me doubtful the promoters will make money with this fight.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 03, 2021, 07:27:05 AM

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

Dude got caught not reading the thread or at the least understand what sport's being discussed. I think what he meant by outwitting is probably doing some mind games that are unexpected for him to do in the first place.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 02, 2021, 05:57:33 PM

The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed

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But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he can outwit Silva by showing a new combination on the middle of the match then there's a great possibility that he can pin down Silva. I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight. Silva is already slow right now so Ortiz can catch up on his movement right and might land a big time punches. One thing is for sure, This match will gonna be a slow phase match!

Wait, what do you mean by pinning him down? This ain't wrestling or MMA And also what do you mean about Tito outwitting anyone? XD Anyhow, if Silva he's gotten considerably slower than so has Tito so for Tito to take advantage of that he would have to miraculously get faster hands, and for someone who's start came from wrestling, that for sure is not gonna happen.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 02, 2021, 05:57:33 PM

The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed

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But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

If he can outwit Silva by showing a new combination on the middle of the match then there's a great possibility that he can pin down Silva. I'm a fan of Silva on his prime because his reflex and counter attack is very accurate but multiple injuries really slow him down and make him very cautious on his match. I believe Silva will win if they are fighting on both there prime but on there current condition is a different story. Ortiz has a chance on this if the fight will always be an inside fight. Silva is already slow right now so Ortiz can catch up on his movement right and might land a big time punches. One thing is for sure, This match will gonna be a slow phase match!

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