[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 6.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 08, 2021, 05:54:55 AM

In other news...

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/9/7/22661724/donald-trump-lands-commentary-role-for-holyfield-vs-belfort-silva-vs-ortiz-triller-ppv-boxing-news?fbclid=IwAR0Lg7nHhyaFhvfpMHOdzS0js7GmhGe0A4MJSFGdIvx_wjDts95VAJ1KedA

why is this even a thing? Trump as a commentator? I mean, boxing has looked like a caricature of itself for some years now, but this is just out of any boundaries.

I thought you were caught by a bad article but I did try to research and to my shock, it is real. ESPN also posted the news September 8.

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Former President Donald Trump has signed a contract to provide commentary on a "gamecast" of Saturday's boxing event headlined by Evander Holyfield vs. Vitor Belfort, Triller told ESPN on Tuesday.

His son Donald Trump Jr. will join him at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida.

"I love great fighters and great fights," Donald Trump Sr. said. "I look forward to seeing both this Saturday night and sharing my thoughts ringside. You won't want to miss this special event."

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32167639/donald-trump-son-provide-commentary-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-alternate-telecast
Not much to worry, it's just a special event and they are not really the main commentators of the fight. When it comes to stars having fight like this, they all want to be a part of it. A lot of people will be watching it so it's a good place to make some advertisements or just to be featured for future use. Grin

So they call alternate cast now as "gamecast". New to me.

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Quote from: Taskford on September 09, 2021, 07:57:51 AM

Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.

Just like Rigondeaux did in his fight against Casimero no I don't think so it's Ortiz debut in boxing he will try to make a good impression and Silva has a good ring generalship although he runs he always engages and always counterpunch, this is not going to be a boring fight, both fighters have something to prove even at their old age, they don't want people to say that they are past their prime.

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Quote from: Taskford on September 09, 2021, 07:57:51 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

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Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.

I'm looking forward to having a good fight either. They are both fighters and probably they have the same spirit. This is not just simple entertainment because people are expecting a real fight, not running. If they will understand it, then probably they will give the best fight ever in boxing history. They have to value the time and money of those who watch and wait this event.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 09, 2021, 06:44:09 AM

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

Lets do hope that we cannot see a run and gun scene on this fight but knowing how great Silva as a fighter for sure he will give a good fight to his opponent and for sure this will be worthy to see as we can witness him fight against ortiz again, Maybe this could make his name create a noise on this sports again if he can successfully defeat Ortiz but who knows maybe we can see different situation and Ortiz will give a competitive fight against Silva.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on September 09, 2021, 05:43:06 AM

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

KO or not, they should give the fans their's money worth, ticket are that expensive in my opinion even for casual fans. But who knows how the fight might turn out, but I'm guessing it could be up to the last round and then both fighters showing respect. Both are obviously old, but Anderson has a recent fight so he seems to be the fresher. So Ortiz should train hard for this one, as it could really do good for him in the future. Maybe we can see him fight another day.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 08, 2021, 06:44:05 AM

Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Sensible comment right here. As we have seen in recent exhibition fights, the goal is to go longer rather than finish with a TKO early as this brings you nothing. And giving the age both might be hesitant to pull the trigger. Again, don't see a reason why a fight like this would be booked in the first place, but to each his own I guess.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

That's what I'm hoping for: a hard hit on target during the first minutes. Anderson Silva is very good at avoiding hits, so it won't be that easy for Tito to do, but he must because the longer the fight, the less chances of winning for him.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 08, 2021, 06:44:05 AM

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This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

On the other hand, they won't be just walking around the ring. The tickets to the fight are not cheap: $506, $256, $156, $106, $81 and $66, if you want to watch in the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood. And I suppose Pay-Per-View watching won't be free either. People who paid the money would be very disappointed if there were no real fight.

Quote from: Kemarit on September 08, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

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I think @Betwrong quoted that from Tito Ortiz, because he has a bet on him, Grin

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Yep, that's right.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

I think @Betwrong quoted that from Tito Ortiz, because he has a bet on him, Grin

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Yeah, it might not be enough to knock out anyone in his boxing exhibition fight, but it will be enough to take a W against Tito Ortiz.

And as others have said, “Fights begin and end with handshakes.”, so let's see how this fight goes, for sure there is still mutual respect from this two warriors.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

Actually Anderson Silva said recently exactly what you mentioned: there is no favorites until the fight is over.
He is aware about his situation as a "newbie" boxer and will try to use all his skills and techniques learned from MMA against Ortiz. He knows he has to avoid punches and dodge in circles maximum as possible until Ortiz spends his energy and stamina. Maybe he can even hold some accurate jabs from Ortiz without compromising his performance, because it doesn't really look like Ortiz is much stronger than him.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 07, 2021, 07:18:57 AM

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I am not betting on this one as i have lose recently in Pacquiao's fight . maybe i will wait for Inoue and Casimero to decide.

Do like a guy few posts above did - bet a minimum amount on Spider just to feel the emotions Cheesy

You wont lose much, but you will watch this event definitely.

Come on man, you a loosing an evening with beer, chips and salt nuts Cheesy

You are absolutely right, I really did not want to bet on the Pacquiao fight even though he is a great boxing legend, after I saw that he lost with Mayweather, also when I saw that the Cuban had that hunger to win I preferred not to bet, but In this case it is always different, both fighters are very good and have impeccable techniques, although I see Silva with incredible preparation. I am in favor of watching this fight and enjoying it with a couple of beers, with some friends, only 2 days left.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 08, 2021, 06:12:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 08, 2021, 03:51:30 AM

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

I have my doubts if Anderson Silva and his MMA techniques will be enough to knock out Tito Ortiz, in Boxing there is no favorite until the fight is over.
Spider has a moving ability that Tito probably doesn't have, but a single hard hit from Tito would make Spider fall apart easily and end the fight's brilliance.

Anyway, Boxing isn't a sport that I enjoy, but as I'm an Anderson Silva fan, I'm going to bet on it and keep up with it, hoping not to witness a tragedy.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters. As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals. And very often he supported victories! That is, he is undaunted. Louis doesn't like to give up. He will fight to win.

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport. This is a minus. Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

There is one problem with your analysis, and that is that Luis Ortiz is not fighting Anderson Silva, Tito Ortiz is Cheesy

Not the same Ortiz, not the same credibility, and not the same fight Cheesy

In other news...

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/9/7/22661724/donald-trump-lands-commentary-role-for-holyfield-vs-belfort-silva-vs-ortiz-triller-ppv-boxing-news?fbclid=IwAR0Lg7nHhyaFhvfpMHOdzS0js7GmhGe0A4MJSFGdIvx_wjDts95VAJ1KedA

why is this even a thing? Trump as a commentator? I mean, boxing has looked like a caricature of itself for some years now, but this is just out of any boundaries.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 07, 2021, 10:46:57 PM

~ In any case, even if they meet on their primes, I will still have Anderson Silva winning. We have seen him during his MMA days as one of the best pound for pound. But both of them have retired and fighting in a boxing ring, just for the money.

I think each fight is different, and physical condition and skill are not the only factors that affect the result. Another important thing that I wouldn't discount is the combative mindset of Tito who said recently regarding Anderson Silva:

Quote from: https://middleeasy.com/boxing/tito-ortiz-weight-cut/

"He’s one of the best mixed martial artists but I lost respect for him. So it gives me a little more energy, a little more aggressiveness during camp to punch this guy’s face off."

With that spirit, I think there is a good chance for him winning with a KO.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 07, 2021, 02:04:01 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

He may mistype it he is thinking of Tito but mistypes it to Luis because he knows a fighter by the name of Luis Ortiz who is a heavyweight fighter, Ortiz is a very popular surname among fighters there are a lot of Ortiz in boxing, another one is Vergil Ortiz Jr., I also thought the other name of Tito is Luis but glad we have corrected it.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 07, 2021, 02:04:01 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

He might have been mistaken, Luis Ortiz is a Cuban professional boxer, he is heavyweight and have fights with Deontay Wilder. LOL.

In any case, even if they meet on their primes, I will still have Anderson Silva winning. We have seen him during his MMA days as one of the best pound for pound. But both of them have retired and fighting in a boxing ring, just for the money.

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Quote from: W Jr. on September 05, 2021, 09:00:17 PM

If both fighters were young, I would vote for Anderson Silva. But both are now 46 years old. At this age, it's hard to make an accurate prediction because of the body changes of athletes who might be statistical favourites. Statistics makes me comment that Anderson Silva will win. However, we will see clearly on September 11 who will win.

That is an interesting point, if both of the fighters were younger I will think the same, but you are right when you say that at such an old age it is difficult to know which one is the one that has the most chances of winning, after all it is easy to see people on their forties that look as if they are in their fifties while there are some that look to be on their thirties and this difference could be enough to decide who will be the winner of this fight.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

Who is Luis Ortiz? Anderson “Spider” Silva will fight Tito “ The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Ortiz.
I think you have confused something. Wrong Tito my friend. Plus Luis is a heavyweight. He and Anderson Silva will never meet in the ring.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 07, 2021, 10:00:16 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters. As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals. And very often he supported victories! That is, he is undaunted. Louis doesn't like to give up. He will fight to win.

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport. This is a minus. Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

He is a dangerous fighter I have watch his past matches when he was a young fighter but we are talking about boxing where the gloves are heavily padded and you can only use your fist not to mention there are a lot of things in MMA that you cannot do in boxing just look at the recent match between Woodley and Paul, Woodley is restricted even though he packs a power in MMA.

Hopefully Ortiz won't forget about the rules Grin

but yes, just like how we saw Woodley as he's restricted doing things inside the boxing ring, the edge of Silva knowing all the rules and very much familiar with the ring matchup.

We will see how things will end up. It's only some days to see this match and conclude who's the better fighter among these two inside the boxing ring.

Interesting to see if Ortiz will luckily throw that heavy punch that may land to Silvas' face and knock him down. Who knows, right?

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Quote from: Smartprofit on September 07, 2021, 08:05:05 AM

Luis Ortiz is a very dangerous opponent. Don't underestimate him. His nickname in his youth is King Kong.

He received this nickname for the power of the blow, as well as for the height of 193 cm and the arm span of 2 meters. As a rookie, he was not afraid to box with experienced professionals. And very often he supported victories! That is, he is undaunted. Louis doesn't like to give up. He will fight to win.

Perhaps he is older than what is written in his passport. This is a minus. Nevertheless, Luis Ortiz during his lifetime was accustomed not to give up and overcome all difficulties.

Therefore, I do not exclude that King Kong will defeat the Spider in a fierce battle.

He is a dangerous fighter I have watch his past matches when he was a young fighter but we are talking about boxing where the gloves are heavily padded and you can only use your fist not to mention there are a lot of things in MMA that you cannot do in boxing just look at the recent match between Woodley and Paul, Woodley is restricted even though he packs a power in MMA.

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