[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 9.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on September 02, 2021, 05:57:33 PM

The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed

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But what if he changes his combination right now, pretty sure that a fighter of his caliber could be able to do a mix up or a different combo string to surprise Silva plus those combinations that he did back then was pretty effective so it's not like his mundane combination is going to be a liability, if he delivers just right, that said combination might be his win.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on September 02, 2021, 04:55:38 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 01, 2021, 08:46:41 AM

After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito

Since you placed a small amount of money on Tito Ortiz there is nothing much to worry. If you followed the career of Tito Ortiz in MMA you would know that he always spoke high about his skills before the fight even though he usually comes up with blunders as he would forget his lines most of the times and if you search youtube you will find many funny press conference where he is involved mainly against fighters who can talk back especially the press conference with Chael Sonnen.

Anderson Silva is not known to be a good promoter or never talks a big fight plan throughout his career and i am not expecting anything new from him now. I will not give Tito Ortiz even a punchers chance in this fight Wink

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I've encountered many of similar opinions. In fact, idk, is it possible to find anyone who thinks Tito is going to win? And yet, on average, betting sites are giving win probability of 70% to Silva. Notice, not even 80%, but 70. So, I think if your multiplier is 6x+, it's worth giving a shot.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 01, 2021, 08:46:41 AM

After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito

and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito! Cool

Goodluck mate on your Tito Ortiz bet.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 02, 2021, 08:32:53 PM

But I still stick with Anderson here, I mean he just won a boxing match and probably learn a lot of lessons from there and he could improved a lot. So probably another unanimous decision for him as Tito might get exhausted.

As compare to Tito who hasn't box, and even in MMA is stand up is just average and his chin is not that tough anymore as it has been broken many times already.

I'm hoping for a win by knockout. I know he won't last long, judging by his look.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 01, 2021, 08:46:41 AM

After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito

and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito! Cool

Goodluck mate on your Tito Ortiz bet.

But I still stick with Anderson here, I mean he just won a boxing match and probably learn a lot of lessons from there and he could improved a lot. So probably another unanimous decision for him as Tito might get exhausted.

As compare to Tito who hasn't box, and even in MMA is stand up is just average and his chin is not that tough anymore as it has been broken many times already.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 01, 2021, 04:26:45 AM

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Ortiz knows the advantage of Silva since he still active and he already have the experienced fighting inside boxing arena.
But for sure he won't accept it just like that, he also wanted to shows some of his hidden skills (I hope there's something)
will see then when the fight start.

The hidden side for Tito Ortiz to take this fight is for the money and he knows how to hype the fight. Even when he was in the UFC he was not known as a good boxer, i have not watched his old fights live but have watched some of his old fights and the only problem he has is that he repeats the same combination again and again and it will be easier for Silva to counter him easily. After all it is a fight and hopefully he will surprise us Lips sealed

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 01, 2021, 08:46:41 AM

After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito

Since you placed a small amount of money on Tito Ortiz there is nothing much to worry. If you followed the career of Tito Ortiz in MMA you would know that he always spoke high about his skills before the fight even though he usually comes up with blunders as he would forget his lines most of the times and if you search youtube you will find many funny press conference where he is involved mainly against fighters who can talk back especially the press conference with Chael Sonnen.

Anderson Silva is not known to be a good promoter or never talks a big fight plan throughout his career and i am not expecting anything new from him now. I will not give Tito Ortiz even a punchers chance in this fight Wink

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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva Roll Eyes

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Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, Silva will be the heavy favorite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.

Preparation would impact the outcome of this fight,

Silva has those experienced fighting inside this ring and it can be an advantage but we are not aware if how
Ortiz will do his homework, knowing that the opponent has such kind of edge against him.

There's still open possibilities that Ortiz may upset Silva if there's an open opportunity,
maybe a solid open punch may KO Silva, who knows right?

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After watching Anderson Silva vs. Tito Ortiz Press Conference I decided to bet on Tito Ortiz. Yeah, I know about the odds, he's the underdog, I know. But this guy is so ready, he's so excited about the upcoming fight. And when I'm saying "ready", I mean he's ready to lose too, and that's what counts a lot imo.

I hate risking a lot of money, so I placed just $2 on Tito

and still with those odds my potential win looks pretty good. And no way I will cash out $1.80, no. I'm rooting for Tito! Cool

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 30, 2021, 05:41:53 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 30, 2021, 10:17:03 AM

Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.

That's completely right. They can call it whatever they want but two MMA fighters past their prime fighting each other with one having 0 boxing matches under his belt is not what I would call a pro boxing match. An exhibition, even tho for an exhibition it kinda has to be entertaining, maybe? no? Well, this won't be entertaining. As for the pay comments, The hard truth is that I think they can not make more money in MMA, but it also brings up a broader question of the current status between boxing and MMA

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Quote from: TravelMug on August 31, 2021, 08:00:38 PM

Silva has boxed already, so he knows how it feels to be inside the ring with a pro-boxer (although shot JCC Jr.), but still that's a big accomplishment already, switching from MMA to Boxing and won his first match.

I think the more shot here is Ortiz, for sure his weight has balloon and not being active as he has retired already. But hey, if he can make money so why not, even if he losses he has something to bring home. And it will fair that Silva will be the favourite if crypto sport bookies will open up the betting to the public.

More on money side then the additional exposure for his future plans.

Ortiz knows the advantage of Silva since he still active and he already have the experienced fighting inside boxing arena.
But for sure he won't accept it just like that, he also wanted to shows some of his hidden skills (I hope there's something)
will see then when the fight start.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 30, 2021, 06:59:16 PM

Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva Roll Eyes

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Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, silva will be the heavy favourite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.

Silva has boxed already, so he knows how it feels to be inside the ring with a pro-boxer (although shot JCC Jr.), but still that's a big accomplishment already, switching from MMA to Boxing and won his first match.

I think the more shot here is Ortiz, for sure his weight has balloon and not being active as he has retired already. But hey, if he can make money so why not, even if he losses he has something to bring home. And it will fair that Silva will be the favourite if crypto sport bookies will open up the betting to the public.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 30, 2021, 10:17:03 AM

The event date is approaching fast and we have so much to look forward to. Silva and Ortiz are well-known boxers that have reputation to uphold. They are on the top of their games and are very much willing to win the match. Both can be seen to have a strong driving force to win the upcoming match.

Tf you're talking about? Well-known boxers? Are you a bit soft on the head or are you slow? Their not boxers dummy, they just transitioned from their respective discipline. And what you just pointed happens to almost any fighters out there so this isn't anything special.

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Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva Roll Eyes

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Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

i think that's the main disadvantage of Ortiz here, first time to get inside the boxing ring. so more then likely, silva will be the heavy favourite here though odds are not yet out for this bout. i don't think we will see an upset here. both have the same age, so age should not be a question here. but they may differ in their prep training.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 31, 2021, 08:58:24 AM

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WOW You are absolutely right, I hope that by that date I can see the fight well calmly, because it is likely that my wife gives birth, she would already be in week 38 of pregnancy, I hope she can resist until week 39, but well we will see , since that fight promises a lot! However Silva I see a great probability of winning, Ortiz must be preparing very well because the last statistics that I have seen are in favor of Silva.

Congrats and i am sure you are excited about your baby than the fight Kiss

. This fight is a one way ticket and there will be only one winner and that is Anderson Silva. There are levels in the skill level of each opponent.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 31, 2021, 08:58:24 AM

At this time, if they tell me to bet, I would not really know who to do it, I think they have their skills at this point very well defined and equal, I don't know what criteria to take, sometimes I lean towards Silva, but if it becomes a very technique fight will be difficult.

The skill level is lopsided, Anderson Silva will win against Tito Ortiz in MMA and in boxing, technical striking there is no one who is better than Anderson Silva and his career is his proof. I am not expecting Anderson Silva at 46 years to challenge a young champion but he could beat majority of the boxers in his division.

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Quote from: zanezane on August 30, 2021, 10:41:59 AM

This date of the fight is a special one, it's also a day of memorial to those people that we've lost during the terror attack in World Trade Center and Pentagon but I digress hopefully this is a good exhibition fight and I think this is an even match up, Silva has the boxing experience and Ortiz has the beefy build that can endure punishment.

WOW You are absolutely right, I hope that by that date I can see the fight well calmly, because it is likely that my wife gives birth, she would already be in week 38 of pregnancy, I hope she can resist until week 39, but well we will see , since that fight promises a lot! However Silva I see a great probability of winning, Ortiz must be preparing very well because the last statistics that I have seen are in favor of Silva.

At this time, if they tell me to bet, I would not really know who to do it, I think they have their skills at this point very well defined and equal, I don't know what criteria to take, sometimes I lean towards Silva, but if it becomes a very technique fight will be difficult.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 27, 2021, 09:49:41 AM

Thanks for correcting me. After that injury, he never finds the rhythm and realizes that this venue is no longer for him.

Since he's a fighter, he manages to find other venue to showcase his talent, more on money making how the pattern
was created after the fight between Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Promoters find this kind of fight may attract the
combine fans of boxing and UFC.

Anderson Silva had boxers lined up during his reign in the UFC as the champion but Dana White was adamant that they will not allow anyone to cross over and fight a boxer and so is the reason we missed out some epic cross over fights during his prime. Now that he is retired from MMA he is trying his luck in boxing and have you seen his fight against Julio César Chávez Jr who went the distance against Canelo Álvarez and Anderson Silva defeated him.

Anderson Silva will finish Tito Ortiz in the first few rounds Grin

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I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.
Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.

Still boils down to money no matter what angle you look at it. And it's one of the biggest fights in history, next to Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

Silva already proved it, he has beaten a wash up Julio Chavez Jr, if there's anyone who needs to proved something, it will be Tito Ortiz as this is a new ball game for him. Again, I don't think luck plays here if Silva wins, this is going to be his second fight in months as compare to Ortiz who have been sideline for many years.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 30, 2021, 06:59:16 PM

Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva Roll Eyes

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Agree, literally this is the first match of Tito Ortiz in his Boxing career... to bad to him he need to fight with Anderson Silva. I think we don't need to discuss more which boxer will win in this match, just take a look of the other clown aka Jake Paul record. Even his boxing skills is dumb, but he always win when fight with no experience boxer.

However I'm still surprised Silva can beat Chavez Jr in his previous fight, absolutely 46 years is just a number for him, he just like 35 years old.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 30, 2021, 06:59:16 PM

The McGregor Mayweather fight happened at the right time when the hype of Conor McGregor was at its peak and they cashed out big time and earned the most money in a single day in the history of prize fighting and it is not a small feat by any means. Mayweather is the legend of the sport and he was untouchable by elite boxers while McGregor was making his debut and to make over $100 million for a debut is not heard before in history.

The timing of that fight was perfect! And as for how you describe it, Conor was hot back then.

While Mayweather just beat Pacquiao and already accomplished everything inside the boxing ring, bringing them both inside the ring the promoters just did their job very well, imagine those fans from UFC who really loves Conor and those fans who previously loss from Pacquiao bets the frustration brings them to watch this event Hahaha.. Tongue

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 27, 2021, 05:31:53 PM

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I'm not sure if Silva could prove that he still has such boxing skill after been several years in MMA and hasn't been in action after his retirement. And that his injury could really affect his performance. If Silva wins, he is lucky, I guess.

Looks like you missed the fight in June this year where he faced a professional boxer Julio César Chávez Jr and won the fight against a legit boxer who has over 60 fights and just 6 losses and you really think that Tito Ortiz is an opponent that could challenge Anderson Silva Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 27, 2021, 05:31:53 PM

Well, I hope this will be a good fight unlike what we saw between McGregor and Mayweather. And I think this is not all about money but having to show their skill in boxing as well.

The McGregor Mayweather fight happened at the right time when the hype of Conor McGregor was at its peak and they cashed out big time and earned the most money in a single day in the history of prize fighting and it is not a small feat by any means. Mayweather is the legend of the sport and he was untouchable by elite boxers while McGregor was making his debut and to make over $100 million for a debut is not heard before in history.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 30, 2021, 05:41:53 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 30, 2021, 10:17:03 AM

Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.

but it seems that bookies picked-up first the de la hoya - belfort exhibition match rather than this bout. is there any crypto bookie who listed this fight already? or maybe see the odds couple of days before the fight or by next week.
are we going to see more MMA fighters in the boxing arena?? lol these mma fighters are seeing that boxing is a lucrative sport if marketed right. considering that they are already in the retirement status. i believe de silva will be favoured by bookies here once the odds open up for betting.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 30, 2021, 10:17:03 AM

Their fight on September 11 will be real bouts and not just an exhibition. Meaning, it will be more thrilling and entertaining to watch and witness who will be the declared winner. The two will fight an eight round game with two minutes alloted time each round. Hopefully, the two will execute and give us a worthwhile game to see. Given that it will be broadcast in pay-per-view (because it's a boxing sport).

I don't really consider this as professional bouts even the fight is an undercard of a professional match. It's still more like an exhibition for me.

I think they can yield more money if they come back fighting on their usual sport which is mixed martial arts. It will be more supported and patronize by the fans because that's their specialty and that sport make them famous and reputable on that stage. Imagine, they are MMA fighters then suddenly will come out from retirement and will do boxing. I don't see any significance in doing that but only for pure money purposes.

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