[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 3.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 13, 2021, 02:43:24 AM

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I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.

Anderson Silva is a legit boxer and it was not a huge surprise that he could stop Tito Ortiz in one round as everyone who knew these fighters knows their skill level and the odds were not that high as you claim. I am not shocked at the outcome because Vitor Belfort always started fast and he always rushes and that is what got him the win as you cannot expect a 58 year old Evander Holyfield to be fast.

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Quote from: uneng on September 13, 2021, 02:58:19 PM

I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

Anderson Silva did what he said, he was being attacked by Ortiz aggressively and he was just counter-punching, unfortunately, Ortiz's boxing skills was way inferior to Silva and he got caught up with a solid punch. Maybe it's just a mind game and Silva being a warrior knows what he is doing, and Tito Ortiz just takes the bait, I wonder if he will challenge Silva for a rematch.

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I was so surprised by the result of this fight with Anderson Silva winning at first round in 1 minute and 21 seconds. Now I understand what he did. Days before the fight he said to the media he would dodge and resist maximum as possible along the rounds and that is exactly what Tito Ortiz thought it was going to happen, so he went full attack mode since the beginning. Probably in his mind he imagined he could control the fight's rhythm this way.

However, what he didn't know is that Silva was bluffing and when Ortiz least expected, the game turned 180º. He was surprised by a sudden change in his opponent's strategy that knocked him out instantly without giving him any recovery chance. Maybe if he were more strategical and didn't rush like that the fight would have lasted longer.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 13, 2021, 08:26:45 AM

Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM

Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.
But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

The fight kind of ended before it even started Huh

. As Tito approached Silva and was trying to land some punches but Silva those seemed very slow for Silva and he landed a huge right hand which hurt Tito very bad and Silva ended the fight with a jolting left hand. I don't know but, these kinds of unfair matches should not be happening in my opinion.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 13, 2021, 08:29:55 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 08, 2021, 06:44:05 AM

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!
I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?
It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

Well, knockouts are part of the game my friend. And if I was a boxer, and I had the option to do so, I would knock out my opponent to dominate the match and my opponent. It creates an insane amount of adrenaline rush. And first found knockouts are quite hard to bet on. And I never thought that Silva would lose this match, he had the upper hand. Which he eventually showed by making Tito fall face first in the ground in round 1.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 13, 2021, 01:58:33 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2021, 09:39:26 PM

Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.

You could punch a person a million times and not knock them out, or you could punch just once and knock them out cold, or hell if wrongly punched in other circumstances even maybe kill them, many people died from getting punched before. So, boxing is a very risky but also lucky sport, you are putting your life into danger by going out all the time, but since these are professional fighters they know what is what and glove severely drops the death rate by a million.

Yet in no way or shape, just because there was an opening and Silva managed to hit a counter punch, doesn't mean that it would become a knock out punch each time, replicate that a thousand times and maybe 10-20% of that becomes a KO, normally boxers get punched like that all the time and move like nothing happened. So that punch was definitely a bit lucky, of course it was calculated punch that is 100% expected to connect, but it could have just hurt and move on, that KO impact of it was the lucky part.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM

Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

I am not so sure I agree with this, exhibition fights were fine when everything was closed down and we were in a lockdown and people were looking for any form of entertainment and we found in exhibition fights a way to deal with the fact most professional sports leagues and individual events were canceled, but now that the world of sports has comeback in full force I do not think we need something like this anymore at all.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM

I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Exhibition matches will kill the real boxing industry. It's ok before but everyone is now up to it and that sucks. Other real boxers are not even happy with that. Don't tell me you like the next possible fight between Anderson Silva and Jake Paul? That was crazy to watch after that recent event of the latter.

Back to Silva vs Ortiz, I'm also one of those who got surprised. I see Ortiz might lose but not via Technical Knock Out on the starting round. After all, that was the fans wanted to see, a Knock Out win.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 08, 2021, 06:44:05 AM

This is boxing, not the sport that they master, so I would not expect a KO rather, and at their age, I doubt they will still be as aggressive as they were, they will give a little entertainment and they go home with the money they expected, that's it. This fight is just for fun, and in order to be entertaining, thy should keep boxing while ensuring that no one will be hurt seriously.

Well well... what none of us expected ended up happening.
I thought Spider would lose badly, maybe even by knockout.
And you thought that knockout wouldn't happen, much less in the first round.
And look... Ortiz kissed the ground in the first round.
Impressive!

I won the bet, because even though I anticipated the worst, I had hope for him.
But who would bet on a first-round knockout?

It's possible that I take a liking to boxing, better stop here.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 13, 2021, 08:23:29 AM

Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

Anderson Silva ended the fight in round 1, he was focus with his game plan while Tito Ortiz tries a bully way to beat the favorite to win in this fight. I also was not able to watch the game live as there's no PPV in our country, but I'm already contented with the highlight as the actual fight is short.

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Unfortunately I couldn't watch this event live.

But I watched some highlights and found it interesting, even Anderson Silva winning in the first round.
I hope that in the future there will be more "exhibition fights", even though it's not exciting as it used to be, I believe that there may be other interesting fights with some fighters from the past!!

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2021, 05:37:09 AM

I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

After what happened, I think he will think twice if he will ever fight again. He got KO in round 1 only, there's no excitement in his next fight as we all see that a 58-year-old man cannot fight anymore, even though he is very popular before but when someone gets old, things really changed.

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I just hope that good old grandpa Evander Holyfield earner well in this fight and he in his 58 wont hit that "boxing vs retired MMA" or "exhibition fight" or "boxing fight among old stars" mania.

Belfort was loaded for this fight and dropped good bombs. I'm glad that ref was smart and experienced enough to stop this fight before KO.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 13, 2021, 03:20:01 AM

And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent.

Belfort vs Dela Hoya match was switched from exhibition match to professional match. Winning or losing will be part of their respective records.

Therefore, Belfort's training was for a professional match. Since there's only a few days left before the fight and Dela Hoya contracted the virus, he's not able to fight now and Holyfield replaced him. And now at the date of the fight, the supposed professional boxing now turned into an exhibition but Belfort didn't hold back as he already spend time training to fight professionally.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 12, 2021, 08:27:51 AM

Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today

Not in shape today? Holyfield is just old. And that does not look like an exhibition fight. Belfort was fighting real. But imho, exhibition fight is not the fight when you try to kill your opponent. Anyway, this fight was a proof that younger fighters wins older fighter. Nothing much to see.

Not surprised that Silva won. Like I've said, Ortiz is far from fighting right now. One hook and that is it. Easy.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 13, 2021, 02:14:09 AM

As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected.

I was wondering what's the betting odds for Silva KO's win in round 1? I'm sure it's bigger than x10 because we don't usually see this kind of early knockout in a fight where fighters have already aged, I was shocked by the outcome of the 2 fights, but it is what it is, maybe next time we'll be lucky.

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As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected. I placed my bets on Tito, hoping to win with 7.84 and 6.43 multipliers on two different sites, and I lost all of them. Well, I knew my chances were on the low side. At least I tried.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 12, 2021, 12:41:25 PM

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by the way, with Ortiz,.

Did you notice how he throw those punches? Roll Eyes

I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!

Sorry, but it's on my two cents! Wink

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That was my impression too. To me it looked like a scripted show: at fist it looked like Ortiz was going to win, with all that cornering and stuff, and then BOOM - he's out.

But maybe it's just one of those cases: if I'd won my bet - the game was fair, if I lost - the game was rigged.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2021, 09:39:26 PM

Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2021, 09:39:26 PM

Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

He really waited for it he waited for Ortiz to relax his defense experienced boxers are not in a hurry to knock out his opponent he will wait for the right time to pull it off, and Silva has done just that, Silva is an intelligent fighter he moves around bait Ortiz and waits for the opening.
Ortiz has a bad paced this is boxing they are fighting 8 rounds he should pace himself but he prefers to attack, it's very amateurish for Ortiz.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 12, 2021, 05:24:33 AM

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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

Actually Tito Ortiz had a brief pro wrestling career in TNA Wrestling. If anybody would throw a fight for money it is him and he would even know how to make it look convincing.

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