[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 11.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 26, 2021, 07:29:46 AM

This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

I have not seen Ortiz box, but Silva is so good when he fought Chavez Jr. he showcases his skill in boxing and he box like a boxer who fought many fights, he is a good boxer than an MMA and this fight is another feather in his cap, although he is so good he cannot match up top middleweight in the industry but his skill is enough to beat Ortiz,

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 27, 2021, 12:10:48 AM

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Easy there. It's more like he will get the trainers he knows and he could afford to pay. For sure they're good but I wouldn't claim they're the best.

I hope both fighters take this one seriously and try to knock each other Grin

We will probably see some showboating from Silva like he usually does before he got KO'd by Weidman.

If I'm not mistaken he showed that kind of showboating in the JCC fight, but Chavez was afraid to go inside and test Silva's chin that why he losses the fight.

For sure Ortiz might have some showboating as well, we all know that during his prime years with UFC he is full of trash talking until the opponent shut up that big mouth of his. Grin

. So let's see what kind of promotion he will do for this fight.

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Both fighters were exhausted by round 3 ortiz was too tired to land a single punch and dominated the landing artiz again. After a tough fight some people including the then UFC light heavyweight champion lost the very close split decision due to chuck liddell's octagonal control and early in the first round he felt ortiz qualified for the first and second rounds. Ortiz silver was going to come face to face in the final and their stats would be better.

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he will get the best trainers

Easy there. It's more like he will get the trainers he knows and he could afford to pay. For sure they're good but I wouldn't claim they're the best.

I hope both fighters take this one seriously and try to knock each other Grin

We will probably see some showboating from Silva like he usually does before he got KO'd by Weidman.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 26, 2021, 07:09:06 PM

Actually, these two guys are just making fun and money. Both of them have an impressive MMA record but that was different when it comes to boxing so it will probably not really be a good fight to see. This will just remind me of McGregor vs Mayweather's fight, that is probably more than that. Maybe if they'll get into the MMA ring, that it looks interesting but this new fun game they've made, I'm not sure how it drags attention and betting interest.

That's obvious, two fighters who are way past their best days, but still wanted to fight each other in the boxing ring. And the only reason is that they wanted to may money specially for their hardcore fans.

But for a typical boxing fans, not worth to watch it as this might be a boring one, for gamblers sure, if they will also make some good money so why not bet on the fight itself.

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Actually, these two guys are just making fun and money. Both of them have an impressive MMA record but that was different when it comes to boxing so it will probably not really be a good fight to see. This will just remind me of McGregor vs Mayweather's fight, that is probably more than that. Maybe if they'll get into the MMA ring, that it looks interesting but this new fun game they've made, I'm not sure how it drags attention and betting interest.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 26, 2021, 10:03:35 AM

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Quote from: TheNineClub on August 25, 2021, 08:14:52 AM

Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

They are trying to make money but didn't get much interest from the audience.
The drama did not catch the attentions that they are hoping, might see that it would just a waste of time and money
if they'll proceed and signed both fighters.

Promoters understand the risk, it's better to find other interesting match up and make things more potential big
event, maybe the reason why we have now this Silva vs Ortiz fight.

Well, I have always liked the boxing style that Tito shows, so that was the reason? Maybe he needs many more fights and have a bit more fame, I have followed Tito's story, usually if it is not with a well-known boxer, the events are not usually very striking, on the other hand, when showing the levels of boxers like Silva and Ortiz.

I think that at the moment both boxers have a very good reputation, this is what attracts more money to the event, of course the technique of both is impeccable, really to make a bet I do not know for whom, the statistics favor Silva.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 26, 2021, 07:49:17 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on August 25, 2021, 08:14:52 AM

Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

They are trying to make money but didn't get much interest from the audience.
The drama did not catch the attentions that they are hoping, might see that it would just a waste of time and money
if they'll proceed and signed both fighters.

Promoters understand the risk, it's better to find other interesting match up and make things more potential big
event, maybe the reason why we have now this Silva vs Ortiz fight.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 25, 2021, 07:14:51 PM

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I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world, I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

I think that there is a certain something that he might felt with that injury, but he would surely not going to say something about it because his opponent might see this as an opening, but anyway, Anderson Silva is a better boxer here than Tito Ortiz but I still want to see how Tito Ortiz may prepare for this fight, before saying a 100% for Silva, I really want information even as little detail for this upcoming fight and I guess for Anderson Silva to really pursue his career in boxing when he wins this.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 26, 2021, 07:49:17 AM

Quote from: TheNineClub on August 25, 2021, 08:14:52 AM

Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

The fight date is approaching, they need to make some noise to sell this fight, just like the fight of Mayweather vs Paul, there was a scene, people talk about it and the fight was successful as they generate good revenue, but unfortunately fans are bored, lol.

Whoever is good at trash-talking is probably gonna sell the fight, Conor and Floyd are a great examples of that.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on August 25, 2021, 08:14:52 AM

Wait, wasn't Tito supposed to box Dana White at some point?

Yeah, they are supposed to.
They were like saying bad things about each other, specifically knocking each other down. But, I don't really know what have happened, the fight did not happen.
Reports said that they're pushing each other on who calls off the fight.
But I think they're just creating a scene, but I guess the fight lacks of audience interest.
So, they have to look for another interesting match up.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 26, 2021, 06:21:38 AM

Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves

Ortiz should prove to all doubters that he can take Silva and he still has what it takes to fight inside the ring whether it is boxing or MMA, Tito is a fighter for most of his life I'm sure he will train hard he will get the best trainers so he can give Silva a run for his money, but I believe in the end Silva will emerge the winner, I hope nobody gets hurt they are aged fighters.

Silva is more experience than Ortiz but we cannot underestimate the capabilities of the said fighter since as we know Silva came from a serious injury and I think that can affect his game style since for sure he's still in trauma that incident will happen again. But let see if Anderson really recovers and can able to get this win from Ortiz since we might see him fight more opponent.

This is the fight that we are not certain of the result of, they are MMA fighters, and this is boxing, so we can't use their past performance as the basis of this fight. I'm sure it's not an easy fight of either fighter as it's a different sport although it's the same considered as contact sport.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 26, 2021, 06:21:38 AM

Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves

Ortiz should prove to all doubters that he can take Silva and he still has what it takes to fight inside the ring whether it is boxing or MMA, Tito is a fighter for most of his life I'm sure he will train hard he will get the best trainers so he can give Silva a run for his money, but I believe in the end Silva will emerge the winner, I hope nobody gets hurt they are aged fighters.

Silva is more experience than Ortiz but we cannot underestimate the capabilities of the said fighter since as we know Silva came from a serious injury and I think that can affect his game style since for sure he's still in trauma that incident will happen again. But let see if Anderson really recovers and can able to get this win from Ortiz since we might see him fight more opponent.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on August 25, 2021, 08:27:24 AM

Ortiz seems to be more of a volume puncher than Silva so I have my bet on Ortiz on this one plus it's going to be a matter of who's going to adapt to a new way of fighting first because the late one is going to feel a subconscious hesitation on what they're going to do.

Ortiz more a volume puncher than Silva? Where did that statistic come from? Speaking strictly from a math perspective, Tito always fought in a bigger weight class than Silva so if anything, from that angle he can't be the more voluminous puncher. I'd like to see that statistic tbh.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 26, 2021, 04:48:33 AM

That injury which might influence him to stop fighting inside UFC ring,

Now he's on the other side taking another path for his newfound career, it's good to see him active while with Ortiz which after retiring we don't have any information if he still active in any sports to keep his body and his health condition to be maintain okay. We will see what's preparation he did once the fight takes place.

The injury not just "might influence" but made a full influence on his UFC career. Take a look on his record. After that leg break he is 1-5 only, but before that he was in a series of 17 wins.

Tito Ortiz is still active, but he fight rarely and fight against old fighters or "so called fighters". But according to social medias, we see Ortiz more in suits than wearing gloves

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 26, 2021, 01:50:57 AM

Yep, and perhaps that why Silva chooses to enter boxing instead of MMA because he knows that he can re-injured himself again. As compare to boxing wherein the pressure is not there. Of course, you need to bounce around but it less stressful.

For sure Tito Ortiz will be the underdog against Silva because he has no activity after he retired from MMA many years ago.

That injury which might influence him to stop fighting inside UFC ring,

Now he's on the other side taking another path for his newfound career, it's good to see him active while with Ortiz which after retiring we don't have any information if he still active in any sports to keep his body and his health condition to be maintain okay. We will see what's preparation he did once the fight takes place.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 25, 2021, 06:41:32 PM

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He already lasted a full 12 rounds against a past prime JCC Jr in the boxing ring. So it seems that his injury is no longer a factor. It's boxing so there is no kicking obviously so I doubt that he will feel pressure on this knees. He just needs to move around, throw punches. The burden here is with Tito Ortiz, he has been out for a good few years, not that active as we have seen his weight goes up. And then the training itself. He has a history of getting tired and gassing out in the UFC so that might be a big factor in his fight against Anderson Silva.

Well you might be right, I am just curious if he's still feeling the pressure with that injury that has a rod in it, you know boxing has footwork that Anderson can have difficulties in some aspect, but I guess he already gets used to that feeling of easiness, so maybe Tito Ortiz would be the underdog when the odds came out, because of the lack of experience with boxing and MMA and Boxing is two different sports both will sure use technical punches but boxing will not require kicking and takedowns but definitely, they can use hold, but you are right the burden here will be Tito Ortiz with the lack of experience in boxing I can see that a lot in here is in favor with Anderson Silva.

Yep, and perhaps that why Silva chooses to enter boxing instead of MMA because he knows that he can re-injured himself again. As compare to boxing wherein the pressure is not there. Of course, you need to bounce around but it less stressful.

For sure Tito Ortiz will be the underdog against Silva because he has no activity after he retired from MMA many years ago.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 25, 2021, 07:14:51 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 25, 2021, 02:31:36 PM

I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world, I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

I disagree though that he boxes Chaves Jr. usually he stays on the corner in the fight and waiting for Chaves to come in and counter, so there no movement. But I do agree that it didn't matter that much about the injury he suffers during the Wiedman fight.

Tito Ortiz is more of a brawler type, but when facing good striking fighter during his MMA days, he usually gets knock out cold.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 25, 2021, 07:14:51 PM

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world, I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

The level of injury Anderson Silva sustained when checking a kick was nasty but in the boxing world you just use your hands and Anderson Silva should have retired from MMA after that injury but he kept on going and he is trying out boxing but Tito ortiz is not even a worthy opponent because he is not known for his striking but his wrestling and i am expecting early works and a win for Anderson Silva.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 25, 2021, 02:31:36 PM

I am curious if Anderson Silva's Injury will take him to the distance we all know after that Injury from Chris Weidman match when he returned he is not the same Anderson Silva he sure is very tired of UFC and never been sure if he really beat Derek Brunson, but I don't really know about if he would go toe to toe with Tito Ortiz does his past fights on the UFC would get into him, or he would be a new Anderson Silva in this Boxing career, All I got to say is I am waiting if what training Tito Ortiz is cooking.

I don't think that past injury will bother at all, on his fight against Chavez Jr he proves himself to be a high-level competitor by the way he boxes Chavez JR. he is so good that he should have done boxing halfway through his career as a fighter, Silva has a lot to offer in the boxing world, I don't know about Ortiz he is good in MMA but I don't know about his boxing skill.

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