[Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 - page 13.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 23, 2021, 06:03:05 AM

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Also, almost half of Tito's UFC losses are by TKO/KO. Spider has black belt in knocking people out, and it will be hard to miss Tito's big head; it will be even hard to hide it behind big boxing gloves.
Both fighters are not young anymore, they can not hold the punch like they had to. I predict this fight to end with Silva TKO Tito.

Chuck Liddell is a killer and very brave, he punches multiple times to Tito. I also know almost Tito's record on UFC are TKO and KO, this because he's fight on Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight divisions.
Even though Silva 2/3 wins by TKO and KO, but he mostly fight on Middleweight division, when he move to Light Heavyweight division he often loss the fight, that's why I thought that on my previous post.
Both of them are aged, their power is not too strong anymore like 30's this might be their last fight before they retired.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on August 23, 2021, 02:22:49 PM

I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing.

He is probably there just to get a cheque for receiving punches in face. According to his social media, he is more into politics than into sport, or taking sport as a hobby right now. While Spider is training and trains his son (he recently made a kickboxing debut and knocked out his opponent in 13 sec with first high kick).

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I'll base it on Silva's last fight, which is pretty good against Chavez Jr. fighting and winning against a one-time great fighter like Chavez Jr. Ortiz can be good at MMA but he hasn't proved anything on boxing so it will be a different ball game in boxing I'll go for Silva but that does not mean that Ortiz is not good he can still pull out an upset, Silva is a favorite here.

It's a vastly different discipline so I think that it's going to be difficult to compare what Silva did in the last fight compared to the upcoming fight against Ortiz. There's no kicks and submission chokes in this one and it's going to be difficult for him to fight against what he was used to. They both hail from MMA so it can be anyone's game.

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I'll base it on Silva's last fight, which is pretty good against Chavez Jr. fighting and winning against a one-time great fighter like Chavez Jr. Ortiz can be good at MMA but he hasn't proved anything on boxing so it will be a different ball game in boxing I'll go for Silva but that does not mean that Ortiz is not good he can still pull out an upset, Silva is a favorite here.

Me either...

I've never been a fan of boxing, and it's even weird for me to comment on this topic, but Anderson Silva is an idol that makes me feel proud to be Brazilian.
As I don't understand anything about technique, I'm rooting and betting in favor of Spider, this guy's quick moves make a lot of difference in boxing and impress me.

I may be wrong, but I am betting with "my heart" on this victory.

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Tito is going have the advantage here since his body is much more beefier than Silva and the only way Silva can win this is if he is much faster than Tito which is going to be hard because even if you're faster, it's a matter of who wears out first and then the accuracy and power of each punches.

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 22, 2021, 08:53:06 PM

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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

I agree that this is now fast becoming a trend. But I don't think this is them making money because of the pandemic. This is simply them, retired fighters, making money well beyond their golden days.

Yeah, it could be but the pandemic has given them more reasons to fight again and make money. I don't think that this guys are going to fight if we are in the norm. But with the pandemic, nothing to do, so this is their excuse.

Quote from: Darker45 on August 22, 2021, 08:53:06 PM

This trend is more like only the entertainment in sports entertainment. Silva can box, yes, but he's not really a boxer. As for the old Tito, he's even less of a boxer than Silva. So I don't know what they are going to show to the fans except that they're two big names of old trying to put up a fight in a sport they both didn't excel.

That's what I'm talking about, entertainment because of the obvious lull in sports because of the pandemic. Probably just trying to punch each other out until someone gets exhausted (most likely Ortiz).

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 23, 2021, 06:15:26 AM

WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.

I just research that back then that Anderson Silva has experience in fighting a real boxer, that is why he had that certain head movement when evading in the UFC that is because he is really a good boxer, so applying it to the UFC Anderson Silva became very famous because of his evading technique,

But my take here even though I am going with Anderson Silva, we can not underestimate Tito Ortiz, he can still fight and can still land a technical punch on Silva, and I still want to see his training just to be sure, and let's not forget Silva's injury his left fibula and tibia that is why this really changes Silva's game into the octagon, and it can be a real problem aswell with boxing because footwork is still important.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 23, 2021, 01:21:46 PM

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Looking forward to the betting odds of this fight, I know the names but I don't follow them on their UFC journey. This is a co main event of the De la Hoya fight vs Vitor Belfort, and I would say both fights would be a fun fight to watch, not the Mayweather vs Paul which obviously another boring fight.

Hope they'll get rewarded here with good income from PPV sales.

TRT Vitor Belfort is scary and he could defeat anyone in the world and even after retiring from the UFC he bulked up like a huge scary person but now i am not sure about his physical condition and how they are testing them before the fight.

I do not understand what Tito Ortiz is doing with Anderson Silva in straight boxing. Anderson Silva will smoke him without any hesitation and i have seen some of the boxing bouts Anderson Silva was in and it looks incredible.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on August 23, 2021, 12:23:21 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 23, 2021, 06:15:26 AM

WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.

Looking forward to the betting odds of this fight, I know the names but I don't follow them on their UFC journey. This is a co main event of the De la Hoya fight vs Vitor Belfort, and I would say both fights would be a fun fight to watch, not the Mayweather vs Paul which obviously another boring fight.

Hope they'll get rewarded here with good income from PPV sales.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 23, 2021, 06:15:26 AM

WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

Thanks for sharing that info, I know Silva and Ortiz inside UFC I didn't know that Silva already have that experienced inside boxing ring.

Experienced gives a fighter better edge against the opponents who will have his first taste of this sport,

Adjustment may be differ between the two and personally I'll go also with Silva, he can throw punches
accordingly, that's good enough edge to limit his stamina.

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I thought this was just an exhibition fight but I'm surprised after record some information about this fight.

This is not an exhibition but an official fight.

Oscar De La Hoya vs. Vitor Belfort Changed from Exhibition to Official Fight in Sept.

I thought Oscar had already retired and he is focused on his promotion business, honestly, I also did not see it coming but it seems like it's the trend now where old popular fighters are making their return for the money.

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I was never a Silva fan, especially since he mad uncle Chael tap Sad

but objectively speaking, Silva has a much better technic and movement than Tito could ever dream of. I honestly don't get how this would generate any interest, but then again, the boxing world has been crazy as of latelly.

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WOW! I never saw this coming, but apparently, this will be one interesting fight, if an MMA fighter could also do boxing and limit his arsenal with only punches, but my take would be for Anderson Silva, he has experience inside the ring and he had fight 3 times now with 2 wins and 1 lost with Osmar Luiz Teixeira, Julio Cesar de Jesus, and Julio César Chávez Jr. but Tito Ortiz is just starting now and this is his debut in boxing, So I guess Anderson Silva has surely had an advantage on experience with boxing and in the MMA aswell.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 22, 2021, 11:30:18 PM

I bet Silva will win on this match by decisions since it's much harder to make Tito KO or TKO.

Chuck Liddell has opposite opinion Cheesy

Also, almost half of Tito's UFC losses are by TKO/KO. Spider has black belt in knocking people out, and it will be hard to miss Tito's big head; it will be even hard to hide it behind big boxing gloves.
Both fighters are not young anymore, they can not hold the punch like they had to. I predict this fight to end with Silva TKO Tito.

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We all know both of Silva and Tito are top MMA fighters, Tito has more weight 205 lb compared to Silva with 185 lb. Tito is more like a brawler and very good martial arts like kungfu and karate. While Silva is good in taekwondo, muay thai, and boxing, he already show his boxing power when he fight with Chavez Jr a couple months ago. I think Silva is more prepared than Tito, because I've watched he training on Instagram many times. Also this is the first time Tito become a boxer, even though he have a skills on MMA and UFC but still he doesn't have any experience on boxing.

I bet Silva will win on this match by decisions since it's much harder to make Tito KO or TKO.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 22, 2021, 06:38:17 PM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2021, 08:41:39 PM

This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

I agree that this is now fast becoming a trend. But I don't think this is them making money because of the pandemic. This is simply them, retired fighters, making money well beyond their golden days.

This trend is more like only the entertainment in sports entertainment. Silva can box, yes, but he's not really a boxer. As for the old Tito, he's even less of a boxer than Silva. So I don't know what they are going to show to the fans except that they're two big names of old trying to put up a fight in a sport they both didn't excel.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 12, 2021, 08:41:39 PM

This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

Yes, this is the trend now, ex-MMA still trying to make money because of the pandemic. But I don't see any real contender though wanting to fight the likes of Silva. Tito is also a wash up fighter, but if we are going to base on who's active, Silva might have the edge. I'm also not interested on buying this in PPV, just a waste of money. But for those hardcore fans of both fighters, they might go for it.

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I don't think though that there is a story line in this fight, Silva doesn't need any redemption fight, he is retired but come back last June and then defeated a boxer in JCC. This is a going to be a boxing match so I think Silva will be the favorite because he beat a former MW champion in JCC. Yes, during Ortiz time in the UFC he is a bruiser but this is boxing, you need to always put your hands up to defend yourself. He can't just bulldoze his way and take down Silva.

That's on me, thought the box meant to duke it out in the octagon. Yes you're right that Ortiz can't bulldoze but I think the punches that he will deliver is going to be felt by Silva given that he is a bruiser.

I do agree though, if Ortiz can just land one solid punch on Silva, it might be a different story.

But Silva gets a win against a legitimate middleweight in JCC, but I don't think that he was hit solidly as he moves and tries to avoid a big punch. And Silva doesn't have that power either, if Ortiz chin will hold then it will be a long fight and could go either direction.

Dana vs Ortiz? yeah, why not that will be a good one for exhibition.

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Quote from: WNTRjon on August 11, 2021, 10:06:52 PM

If Tito Ortiz wins he needs to call out Dana White.

That's a fight I might pay to see.

LOL, yeah I would love to see that match as well.

Before that happens, he needs one solid punch to land on Silva's chin because that will most likely take him out. I think he punches harder than Weidman despite being older. Silva can dance around with his superior footwork while landing those jabs but I don't think he has enough power.

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This seems like an obvious money grab. Both guys are really old and shouldn't be fighting anymore. Silva showed he can still compete against low level washed up fighters like Chavez Jr. but against a real contender he would get hurt badly. Tito has never boxed professionally so I am not sure what to expect from him but he can't possible be that good. If the fight was on basic cable then I might tune in but since it is on PPV I have no intention of buying it.

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