[Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 - page 16.

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I looked at how much fighters get for a fight, and Joshua will receive about €50 million, and Ngannou about €20 million.

Why is there such a big difference, is it because Ngannou is not such an important fighter in the boxing world? Well, it seems that his decision to break his contract with the UFC was the right decision and now he will earn a lot of money for these two fights.

But it would be cool if Ngannou could beat Joshua. Ngannou is considered the underdog in this fight, but it seems to me that he is a very strong fighter and has enough talent (he showed this in the fight with Fury) to defeat Joshua.

Ngannou will not get that kind of figure if he is still in the UFC, that's more than all the combined fights of all the fights of Ngannou in UFC, he is setting a trend for MMA fighters to venture to boxing where there is a lot of money to be made, Ngannou use the UFC to start his career but its on boxing where he will establish his legacy and will make a lot of money.

He has a good chance against Joshua if only he can take good trainers, Joshua has a better skill than Joshua but his power and how he takes big punches are questionable, if Ngannou can land punches Joshua will be in trouble, if Fury had hard time with Ngannou, Joshua will have to the fight seriously, it's a big humiliation losing a fight to a guy who only had two fights.

Yes and that's why it's very easy for him to and fight Fury, maybe it was also a way to rub it in to Dana and says that he is making more money combined when he was still under the organization of UFC.

So it's a win-win for Francis, in just 2 fights alone more than $20 million already and then he has a good chance to win more if he can win and knockout Joshua here and most likely face the winner of Usyk vs Fury for the biggest fight in boxing. They too has the Saudi's rich oil money willing to disposed hundreds of millions of dollars just to witnessed this great fight.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 06, 2024, 05:02:22 AM

I don't think that Ngannou will come back to UFC, he had beef with Dana White and not sure if other organizations is willing to get him because if there is, he wouldn't box against Fury. And he get his biggest paycheck in boxing, so doesn't make sense for him if he can fight like 2-3 more and then fill his bank with millions.

Beefs mean nothing, if there's money to be made by both sides, they'll find an agreement pretty soon.
As of now, Ngannou is obviously better off sticking to boxing, he can earn a lot more and it's arguably easier then mma (I could be wrong here). But if he disappoints against Joshua, which is a possibility, then he might have to either retire or go back to MMA for a couple of last fights.
If he at least survives all rounds and lands at least a few good shots, then he'll likely get a chance to fight another boxing match. Re-match against Fury would make a lot of sense, and I think Fury spoke positively about that.

Does anybody know if it's going to be an official boxing fight or another exhibition fight?

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 09, 2024, 07:44:28 AM

I looked at how much fighters get for a fight, and Joshua will receive about €50 million, and Ngannou about €20 million.

Why is there such a big difference, is it because Ngannou is not such an important fighter in the boxing world? Well, it seems that his decision to break his contract with the UFC was the right decision and now he will earn a lot of money for these two fights.

But it would be cool if Ngannou could beat Joshua. Ngannou is considered the underdog in this fight, but it seems to me that he is a very strong fighter and has enough talent (he showed this in the fight with Fury) to defeat Joshua.

Ngannou will not get that kind of figure if he is still in the UFC, that's more than all the combined fights of all the fights of Ngannou in UFC, he is setting a trend for MMA fighters to venture to boxing where there is a lot of money to be made, Ngannou use the UFC to start his career but its on boxing where he will establish his legacy and will make a lot of money.

He has a good chance against Joshua if only he can take good trainers, Joshua has a better skill than Joshua but his power and how he takes big punches are questionable, if Ngannou can land punches Joshua will be in trouble, if Fury had hard time with Ngannou, Joshua will have to the fight seriously, it's a big humiliation losing a fight to a guy who only had two fights.

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We can also speculate on how much AJ and Ngannou are going to earn for this fight Cheesy

Does anyone knows the numbers? Definitely gonna be lower than Ngannou vs Tyson, but as the even is going to be in Saudi Arabia again, we might see some nice zeroes Cheesy

Btw funny how fighters negotiate for months and years about their opponents and paycheck, and now AJ fights in less than 3 months again. Ngannou has more time to prepare for it.

They've said 8 figures so it's 10 million+. I suspect it'll be somewhere between 20-50 million tops.

This is a big fight, so most likely he will get a huge paycheck at that range. Now, I'm wondering why big fights held in Saudi Arabia gets more money.

Anyway, as per his previous fights earnings especially against Usyk, it was reported that he earned $80 million on two fights.

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From the two fights against Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua waled away with a total of $80 million between both events.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/22/6585c8f0e2704e23b78b45cd.html

So, we can tell that despite AJ is not a champion anymore, his popularity still give him an opportunity to earn more money.

And, it's given that fights in higher division usually earn bigger revenue compared to the lowest.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on January 06, 2024, 06:42:14 AM

Hyped. I'd heard there was strong rumours about this fight last week and glad the Saudi's have now made it happen. I honestly can't even predict this fight. If Ngannou can floor Fury he can surely do the same to AJ. Ngannou has said that he didn't go in 100% against Fury because he was worried he would gas out quickly and Fury would take advantage of that. Now he knows he can go 10 rounds with the current heavyweight champ I think this makes him much more dangerous. I think I'd put money on either a Francis KO or AJ on points.

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Also, does Francis Ngannou have any plans on fightning in MMA again?

Yes. He's signed a multi-fight deal with the PFL and also has equity in the company if I understand correctly. The trouble with the PFL is there's nobody really for him to fight. Name me one PFL heavyweight?

The PFL can create something similar to the gladiators during Roman times and have Francis Ngannou fight 3 lightweight fighters in an entertaining 3 vs. 1 hehehehehe.

I know Francis' promotion is called Gimmik Promotions but I think that's going a bit too far. I think the best thing right now for them would be to try do some one off fights with ex-UFC heavyweights or maybe even some mixed-rules fights against boxers. Francis pretty much stays on his feet anyway so it'll basically a boxing match but with MMA gloves. Wilder was in discussion to fight Francis in the PFL in a hybrid fight but I'm not sure if they can front him the money he wants but maybe Wilder will have to start taking paycuts now if he keeps losing.

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 07, 2024, 08:12:52 AM

n the other hand, for boxing, it is not good when a guy from other sports came and start to box on same or better level as champion and top boxers. It shows that boxing aint for selected and unique, and anyone from outside can become a champion.

Francis is just built different though and lets not forget he started out as a boxer and pretty much just boxes in MMA anyway. I think a bigger question people should be maybe asking is is Tyson Fury that good?

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 09, 2024, 05:47:58 AM

We can also speculate on how much AJ and Ngannou are going to earn for this fight Cheesy

Does anyone knows the numbers? Definitely gonna be lower than Ngannou vs Tyson, but as the even is going to be in Saudi Arabia again, we might see some nice zeroes Cheesy

Btw funny how fighters negotiate for months and years about their opponents and paycheck, and now AJ fights in less than 3 months again. Ngannou has more time to prepare for it.

They've said 8 figures so it's 10 million+. I suspect it'll be somewhere between 20-50 million tops.

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I looked at how much fighters get for a fight, and Joshua will receive about €50 million, and Ngannou about €20 million.

Why is there such a big difference, is it because Ngannou is not such an important fighter in the boxing world? Well, it seems that his decision to break his contract with the UFC was the right decision and now he will earn a lot of money for these two fights.

But it would be cool if Ngannou could beat Joshua. Ngannou is considered the underdog in this fight, but it seems to me that he is a very strong fighter and has enough talent (he showed this in the fight with Fury) to defeat Joshua.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 09, 2024, 05:41:17 AM

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It is because Joshua's reputation has been shattered by Andy Ruiz, i mean he could be easily knockout as Ngannou is a power puncher if those punches land flush to the chin, i don't think Joshua could survive but that is one scenario the other being Joshua also hurting Ngannou easily as he also packs a punch. As what @FinneysTrueVision has said, this is an interesting fight as both have power and we know in boxing, a single punch could turn the fight around.

AJ reputation was shaken badly after two losses to Usyk. That first fight against Ruiz showed that AJ did not take him seriously or came unprepared for the fight (in interview AJ told that his weight was unusual for him, he was never so heavy before). But two consecutive losses to Usyk, that followed by "how you beat me?" when AJ freaked out. I would say that Ngannou or media will get into AJ head and he would feel uncomfortable during fight. And the predator wont miss that opportunity.

And to add to that, his chin, although we have been suspected that it's weak specially in the Klitscho fight, nevertheless we haven't seen him going down to a punch. But Andy Ruiz exposed him and the Usyk boxing skills shows that Joshua have a heard time beating a technical boxer. So in all, it's going to be a very dangerous fight because Ngannou can moved and then he has that power to knock him out.

With that, fans here think that Ngannou has a good chance to score a knockout punch.

But if I'm Joshua's camp though, I will make sure that Joshua will shows resiliency in this fight and unpredictability so that Ngannou can't execute his power on him.

Yeah, Ngannou has a high chance of winning a knockout here, i think his only chance because if this go to the distance, Joshua for sure will win as he is more technical than the former. As for me, AJ's confidence is not in him yet after that Ruiz lose, that's very evident to his two losses to Usyk. For me, a fight with Wilder is more risky than this one because Wilder just threw punches wildly.

Personally, I'm going to back AJ to win this fight as I want him to face Fury next for the "Battle of Britain".

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 09, 2024, 05:47:58 AM

We can also speculate on how much AJ and Ngannou are going to earn for this fight Cheesy

Does anyone knows the numbers? Definitely gonna be lower than Ngannou vs Tyson, but as the even is going to be in Saudi Arabia again, we might see some nice zeroes Cheesy

Btw funny how fighters negotiate for months and years about their opponents and paycheck, and now AJ fights in less than 3 months again. Ngannou has more time to prepare for it.

Good question mate, so I did try to search for it, reports says that he earn $10 million in the Fury fight. But if you think that he will earn lower, you are wrong,

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Ngannou's reputation in boxing is growing, leading to expectations of a $20 million pay-day for his fight with Anthony Joshua, not including pay-per-view sales and sponsorships.
Anthony Joshua is also expecting a significant pay-day, with rumours suggesting he may demand the same $50 million that Fury earned for his fight with Ngannou. Both fighters' earnings are expected to match the magnitude of the occasion.

https://www.givemesport.com/anthony-joshua-vs-francis-ngannou-estimated-fight-purses/

So Ngannou is the real winner here, after he goes to boxing, his 1st fight alone give him his biggest paycheck.

And then we expect him getting more against AJ in the Middle East as the Saudi's is willing to shell out those oil money in boxing right now.

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We can also speculate on how much AJ and Ngannou are going to earn for this fight Cheesy

Does anyone knows the numbers? Definitely gonna be lower than Ngannou vs Tyson, but as the even is going to be in Saudi Arabia again, we might see some nice zeroes Cheesy

Btw funny how fighters negotiate for months and years about their opponents and paycheck, and now AJ fights in less than 3 months again. Ngannou has more time to prepare for it.

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It is because Joshua's reputation has been shattered by Andy Ruiz, i mean he could be easily knockout as Ngannou is a power puncher if those punches land flush to the chin, i don't think Joshua could survive but that is one scenario the other being Joshua also hurting Ngannou easily as he also packs a punch. As what @FinneysTrueVision has said, this is an interesting fight as both have power and we know in boxing, a single punch could turn the fight around.

AJ reputation was shaken badly after two losses to Usyk. That first fight against Ruiz showed that AJ did not take him seriously or came unprepared for the fight (in interview AJ told that his weight was unusual for him, he was never so heavy before). But two consecutive losses to Usyk, that followed by "how you beat me?" when AJ freaked out. I would say that Ngannou or media will get into AJ head and he would feel uncomfortable during fight. And the predator wont miss that opportunity.

And to add to that, his chin, although we have been suspected that it's weak specially in the Klitscho fight, nevertheless we haven't seen him going down to a punch. But Andy Ruiz exposed him and the Usyk boxing skills shows that Joshua have a heard time beating a technical boxer. So in all, it's going to be a very dangerous fight because Ngannou can moved and then he has that power to knock him out.

With that, fans here think that Ngannou has a good chance to score a knockout punch.

But if I'm Joshua's camp though, I will make sure that Joshua will shows resiliency in this fight and unpredictability so that Ngannou can't execute his power on him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 09, 2024, 01:04:56 AM

It is because Joshua's reputation has been shattered by Andy Ruiz, i mean he could be easily knockout as Ngannou is a power puncher if those punches land flush to the chin, i don't think Joshua could survive but that is one scenario the other being Joshua also hurting Ngannou easily as he also packs a punch. As what @FinneysTrueVision has said, this is an interesting fight as both have power and we know in boxing, a single punch could turn the fight around.

AJ reputation was shaken badly after two losses to Usyk. That first fight against Ruiz showed that AJ did not take him seriously or came unprepared for the fight (in interview AJ told that his weight was unusual for him, he was never so heavy before). But two consecutive losses to Usyk, that followed by "how you beat me?" when AJ freaked out. I would say that Ngannou or media will get into AJ head and he would feel uncomfortable during fight. And the predator wont miss that opportunity.

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Quote from: rodskee on January 08, 2024, 10:50:42 PM

Looking at the votes it seems that Nganmou winning for Knockout against Joshua but i doubt
that Anthony Joshua will just give this fight like that so this will be an interesting fight and i have not betting
for long now so maybe I consider putting bet for Joshua this time , will be looking for spread to decide once
it happens.

It is because Joshua's reputation has been shattered by Andy Ruiz, i mean he could be easily knockout as Ngannou is a power puncher if those punches land flush to the chin, i don't think Joshua could survive but that is one scenario the other being Joshua also hurting Ngannou easily as he also packs a punch. As what @FinneysTrueVision has said, this is an interesting fight as both have power and we know in boxing, a single punch could turn the fight around.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 06, 2024, 05:24:55 AM

Francis by KO thats for sure. Francis eating the punch of Fury like its nothing will only make AJs punch less effective.

Good for Francis not waiting for Fury rematch. He didnt fumble the bag this time but Fury for not taking the immediate rematch. Dana goes to the ER again while overdriving AJ shill.

Fury did not really test Ngannou's punch resistance because he fought cautiously after getting dropped and didn't throw many punches. AJ is a more powerful puncher than Fury so he has a better chance of winning by knockout. AJ also gets hurt easier so if he gets hit like Fury did, he might not survive. Both men, Joshua and Ngannou, have devastating power and are capable of changing the course of a fight with a single punch. This unpredictability of the outcome is what makes the fight so intriguing

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Looking at the votes it seems that Nganmou winning for Knockout against Joshua but i doubt
that Anthony Joshua will just give this fight like that so this will be an interesting fight and i have not betting
for long now so maybe I consider putting bet for Joshua this time , will be looking for spread to decide once
it happens.

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Ngannou will be a hard opponent for Joshua. But this is going to be a huge match, so still worth it. He will definitely be receiving a nice paycheck for this.

I think Joshua can handle Ngannou if he makes sure he has a lot of air in his tank. Ngannou isn't really a boxer. He cannot last the entire fight without breathing heavily. Joshua has this problem as well, but I think his tank will last longer than Ngannou's. And with more training, he will improve it.

Joshua shouldn't commit the error of trading blows with Francis. It will be his end. So he better be throwing those jabs and maintain a safe distance. He needs to be a wise boxer.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 07, 2024, 02:45:06 PM

and i can understand if a lot of users here voted for Ngannou to KO AJ. but look at the odds, AJ is still the favourite of the bookies. so this is a very good chance to bet on Ngannou being the underdog of this match. the stake odds' are looking like this

Bookmakers must be crazy for giving such high odds for Ngannou win, after we all know how what happened in his first boxing fight against Tyson Fury.
This is a gift and it pays even better if you choose to bet on Fight going to distance, no matter who wins this fight.
A lot of things can change until March, and refs can again make controversial decision, but I think odds will soon drop on Ngannou.

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Dana White is getting desperate right now, and he looks more stupid with every new fight of Ngannou.
Francis was so scared that he is now fighting with the biggest fighters in the world and he is doing it in boxing Grin

Against Tyson Fury I thought Francis didnt have a chance, but after I watched the last fight I think he can do even more against Anthony Joshua.
I cant wait to see this fight, but even more I want him to see back in MMA.

Joshua vs Ngannou wouldn't be any different from Fury Fight but i think Francis will win this time. AJ was not a big puncher when he was exposed by Ruiz. since this is happening in Saudi again then Francis will be pocketing millions again.

His chances are high because of his power and we all know that AJ chin was broken already by Ruiz and exposed it and now AJ can't take punishment or getting hit in the chin by powerful punchers like in this case, Ngannou.

Maybe AJ will try to run and cover, but if this fight goes to distance, he might not have that stamina just like in the Usyk fight wherein we see him getting tired in the championship rounds and Usyk stealing that important rounds. But if Ngannou like in the Fury fight, hit AJ early, this fight might not go to distance.

He will certainly respect the power of Ngannou since he already witness what he can do. This will be tough for Ngannou to be honest, so I hope we won't get too hype with his 2nd fight in boxing after his impressive performance, because if Fury didn't make it serious, then I would say that Ngannou is in big trouble here. AJ is also a knockout artist, but he cannot be too reskless as that has been his weakness in the fights that he losses, he shoulld learn from his mistake.

I think we are already hype and on the bandwagon of Francis after that great performance against Fury. And even if he lost that fight, it gain him a great deal of boxing fans and so as underdog, he could get a huge money bet.

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I see this fight like AJ vs Andy Ruiz, that if AJ will not be careful, he will end up losing by KO.

Or even worst, Francis power is really raw and just like what you said, even if he is careful, if Francis can find that small opening like in the Fury fight and time Joshua and hit him when he is not expecting, Ngannou will win by KO.

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This is going to be an epic match. Two great fighters and it's going to be difficult to predict the actual winner of this game. But as a fan of Anthony Joshua I expect him to win this game as he has faced numerous difficult and stronger opponents and he has won't most of those fights.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on January 08, 2024, 10:27:39 AM

It seems like Anthony Joshua will never underestimate Francis Ngannou because he saw how Ngannou fought against Fury and in this fight it was really surprising because Ngannou was able to make Fury feel knockdown which of course surprised us all.
A Fury who has become heavyweight boxer and is considered monster can feel knockdown from Ngannou, who could say that this fight was his first debut in boxing, but Ngannou was also tough fighter before when he was with the UFC so he has strong punches.

Definitely he shouldn't, we have discussed Fury's training though and some of us might conclude that he underestimate Francis and it almost cost him that fight and the big money paycheck against Usyk. Nevertheless, the judges awarded him the score, but not after Ngannou score a knockdown on him.

Now, Joshua doesn't have a good chin or at least recuperation that Fury had. So if by chance Ngannou landed flushed on his chin, it might be over. Joshua knows this for sure and his camp will have to train or put up a good strategy to avoid that power shot. So this could be another close one for Joshua again.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 05, 2024, 08:24:05 PM

It has been confirmed that Anthony Joshua will be fighting Francis Ngannou in Saudi Arabia on March 9th.

My reaction to this fight is quite mixed because I like Anthony Joshua based on his origins and then I like Francis also because he is African and I can relate to his struggles, so I do not know who to support and I just want the best man to win in the fight. Francis had a very good fight against one of the greatest fighters in history and Anthony Joshua if he isn't careful will get disgraced and become Francis first official boxing win. Both fighters have powerful punches, a KO is very possible.

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