[Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 - page 12.

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the result of the poll says a number of us here want Francis to win. since i also want a rematch of Francis and Fury, i want Francis to win.
Francis is already a legend in both boxing and MMA sports so he is as experienced as AJ in fighting but because AJ is much more graceful than Fury, this fight could be tougher than him with Fury.

i think if Francis loses this fight, he may be concentrating more on PFL.

Little correction. Majority "dont want Francis to win", but see him as a winner. That is two different things. I have voted that he will knockout AJ, but I dont want him to win. If Francis starts winning, it will mean that anyone from other sports can switch to boxing and win champions or top of the top fighters. That is wrong. Why spend time training and killing yourself in gym entire life , when some guy from the street can come and have same results as you do within few years.

AJ started his career late, at age of 18, in 2007. Got Olympic gold, some other gold national medals, was a professional boxing champion. And on the other part of scales we have Francis, who has spend part of his life working in a sand quarry, spend other part training MMA (this isnt pure boxing, this is only limited arsenal). If Ngannou wins, it will depreciate the value of Olympic gold medal as minimum.

MMA has it all from boxing and jujitsu to wrestling. if anyone has to qualify to fight either in boxing or wrestling the guys from UFC can do it all. this is why they tried crossing and so many of them including the most popular such as Connor and Diaz. but Francis is just the exception of all since he really made it to the field of boxing, he didn't cross but stayed and even ranked on WBC.

why i want Francis to win is because of his life story. a poor boy from a poor country Cameroon who made it to the top. that's got to be the most inspiring story for the people in that country. if Nigerians can make it, they too can do it.

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Little correction. Majority "dont want Francis to win", but see him as a winner. That is two different things. I have voted that he will knockout AJ, but I dont want him to win. If Francis starts winning, it will mean that anyone from other sports can switch to boxing and win champions or top of the top fighters. That is wrong. Why spend time training and killing yourself in gym entire life , when some guy from the street can come and have same results as you do within few years.

AJ started his career late, at age of 18, in 2007. Got Olympic gold, some other gold national medals, was a professional boxing champion. And on the other part of scales we have Francis, who has spend part of his life working in a sand quarry, spend other part training MMA (this isnt pure boxing, this is only limited arsenal). If Ngannou wins, it will depreciate the value of Olympic gold medal as minimum.

You can't consider a person a champion because he spent his whole life in the training, and then loses to a guy who spent half his life working in a sand quarry. It’s not Ngannou’s fault that he couldn’t afford to live in abundance and train carefree, but he was able to overcome it all and enter big boxing.

It’s not easy to get a champion to agree to fight you, not everyone can send Fury to the floor. And I would like Ngannou to beat Joshua, because if, as you say, a guy who has worked in a sand quarry half his life can beat a gold medal champion, then what kind of champion is he?

Like you have said, it is not easy to become a champion, more hard to become an Olympic champion. But when a guy from other sports comes and beats you, then what kind of champion you are, or are boxing champions really that good?

I bet you can swim. If you beat Michael Phelps suddenly, wont it mean that the effort and time professional athletes spent on becoming a champion is worthless, or their records are fake? It is not about being able to afford to train like AJ instead of throwing sand and etc. It is about anyone can beat the best. If anyone can do it, wont it mean that that "best" if fake?

I think the discussion have gone too far. We can just simplify this. Not everyone from UFC can become a pro boxer and beat the champion. Ngannou hasn't even proven it yet, and he only became popular because he gave Fury a good fight and was able to knock the champion down. So the hype for him to win is high although bookmakers doesn't believe it will happen as we can obviously see that he is the heavy underdog. However, as the public keeps hyping his name, we might see a slight changes of the odds in the long run, before the fight.

Right now, Ngannou all have is hyped, but the moment he step up in the ring and beat AJ, that's a different story as he beat a champion calibeer boxer, and most likely he could get a rematch against Fury on a championship fight, if Fury will remain as champion after his fight with Usyk.

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Little correction. Majority "dont want Francis to win", but see him as a winner. That is two different things. I have voted that he will knockout AJ, but I dont want him to win. If Francis starts winning, it will mean that anyone from other sports can switch to boxing and win champions or top of the top fighters. That is wrong. Why spend time training and killing yourself in gym entire life , when some guy from the street can come and have same results as you do within few years.

AJ started his career late, at age of 18, in 2007. Got Olympic gold, some other gold national medals, was a professional boxing champion. And on the other part of scales we have Francis, who has spend part of his life working in a sand quarry, spend other part training MMA (this isnt pure boxing, this is only limited arsenal). If Ngannou wins, it will depreciate the value of Olympic gold medal as minimum.

You can't consider a person a champion because he spent his whole life in the training, and then loses to a guy who spent half his life working in a sand quarry. It’s not Ngannou’s fault that he couldn’t afford to live in abundance and train carefree, but he was able to overcome it all and enter big boxing.

It’s not easy to get a champion to agree to fight you, not everyone can send Fury to the floor. And I would like Ngannou to beat Joshua, because if, as you say, a guy who has worked in a sand quarry half his life can beat a gold medal champion, then what kind of champion is he?

Like you have said, it is not easy to become a champion, more hard to become an Olympic champion. But when a guy from other sports comes and beats you, then what kind of champion you are, or are boxing champions really that good?

I bet you can swim. If you beat Michael Phelps suddenly, wont it mean that the effort and time professional athletes spent on becoming a champion is worthless, or their records are fake? It is not about being able to afford to train like AJ instead of throwing sand and etc. It is about anyone can beat the best. If anyone can do it, wont it mean that that "best" if fake?

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Little correction. Majority "dont want Francis to win", but see him as a winner. That is two different things. I have voted that he will knockout AJ, but I dont want him to win. If Francis starts winning, it will mean that anyone from other sports can switch to boxing and win champions or top of the top fighters. That is wrong. Why spend time training and killing yourself in gym entire life , when some guy from the street can come and have same results as you do within few years.

AJ started his career late, at age of 18, in 2007. Got Olympic gold, some other gold national medals, was a professional boxing champion. And on the other part of scales we have Francis, who has spend part of his life working in a sand quarry, spend other part training MMA (this isnt pure boxing, this is only limited arsenal). If Ngannou wins, it will depreciate the value of Olympic gold medal as minimum.

You can't consider a person a champion because he spent his whole life in the training, and then loses to a guy who spent half his life working in a sand quarry. It’s not Ngannou’s fault that he couldn’t afford to live in abundance and train carefree, but he was able to overcome it all and enter big boxing.

It’s not easy to get a champion to agree to fight you, not everyone can send Fury to the floor. And I would like Ngannou to beat Joshua, because if, as you say, a guy who has worked in a sand quarry half his life can beat a gold medal champion, then what kind of champion is he?

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Quote from: electronicash on January 26, 2024, 01:07:37 PM

the result of the poll says a number of us here want Francis to win. since i also want a rematch of Francis and Fury, i want Francis to win.
Francis is already a legend in both boxing and MMA sports so he is as experienced as AJ in fighting but because AJ is much more graceful than Fury, this fight could be tougher than him with Fury.

i think if Francis loses this fight, he may be concentrating more on PFL.

Little correction. Majority "dont want Francis to win", but see him as a winner. That is two different things. I have voted that he will knockout AJ, but I dont want him to win. If Francis starts winning, it will mean that anyone from other sports can switch to boxing and win champions or top of the top fighters. That is wrong. Why spend time training and killing yourself in gym entire life , when some guy from the street can come and have same results as you do within few years.

AJ started his career late, at age of 18, in 2007. Got Olympic gold, some other gold national medals, was a professional boxing champion. And on the other part of scales we have Francis, who has spend part of his life working in a sand quarry, spend other part training MMA (this isnt pure boxing, this is only limited arsenal). If Ngannou wins, it will depreciate the value of Olympic gold medal as minimum.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 26, 2024, 08:28:32 AM

Joshua is going to win this match, Joshua has the required experience to win this game.

Well that's what everyone said about the Fury fight and Tyson was left pretty red-faced and embarrassed after that.

Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 26, 2024, 08:28:32 AM

It's going to be a good fight no doubt about that, but I expect Joshua to knock him out.

Come on now. AJ might be the favourite but a KO? He would be the first person to do so. If AJ is to win it's probably going to be on points like Fury. Francis might as well be made out of concrete.

Quote from: electronicash on January 26, 2024, 01:07:37 PM

i think if Francis loses this fight, he may be concentrating more on PFL.

Depends how he loses it. He lost to Fury but he's still clearly in demand. If Ngannou loses but only on points then that still adds to Francis' stock in my opinion as he's going the distance with some of the biggest and best boxers on the planet not to mention current and former world champs. Francis will continue to take these big money fights for as long as he can but I'm sure he will also start to fight in the PFL and probably is contractually obliged to do so anyway.

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Quote from: electronicash on January 26, 2024, 01:07:37 PM

the result of the poll says a number of us here want Francis to win.

That's an obvious result, we like the hype Francis brought to the boxing world particularly in the heavyweight division. So a win here would proved that he is for real as he beat a real boxer, not an ordinary boxer as AJ was once a champion. Though the odds says otherwise, we still love to see Francis winning this big fight.

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since i also want a rematch of Francis and Fury, i want Francis to win.
Francis is already a legend in both boxing and MMA sports so he is as experienced as AJ in fighting but because AJ is much more graceful than Fury, this fight could be tougher than him with Fury.

i think if Francis loses this fight, he may be concentrating more on PFL.

Francis just need to win here, he has to focus on his fight and eventually he'll get the rematch he like. Last time he earned $10 million as reported, but in a rematch, I guess he'll be making more money, or getting a bigger share of the slice.

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the result of the poll says a number of us here want Francis to win. since i also want a rematch of Francis and Fury, i want Francis to win.
Francis is already a legend in both boxing and MMA sports so he is as experienced as AJ in fighting but because AJ is much more graceful than Fury, this fight could be tougher than him with Fury.

i think if Francis loses this fight, he may be concentrating more on PFL.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 26, 2024, 08:28:32 AM

Joshua is going to win this match, Joshua has the required experience to win this game. Let Ngannou not think that his performance against Fury is going to earn him victory over Joshua who is obsessed with coming back to the top and reclaim his belts. It's going to be a good fight no doubt about that, but I expect Joshua to knock him out.

I think most of us here think that Joshua will win, just like when Ngannou faced Fury, people thought that he has no chance but he surprise the boxing world. Now, depsite that almost an upset win by Ngannou, bookmakers are still making him as a heavy underdog, so it's up to us now to evaluete if we really believe that Ngannou really has a chance to upset Joshua on their fight.

A win for Ngannou will give him an opportunity to challenge a champion, while for AJ, he'll be back to square one again.

Though on paper this looks very predictable, but we never know what will happen in the actual fight, and since AJ is has some weakness too as evidence on his multiple losses, Ngannou might be able to exploit that.

You'll always get a surprise from a hard hitter, they only need one big punch to change the course of the fight, and Ngannou always has a chance to beat Joshua, although they both possess the power, it's the one who can take it that will win the fight, Ngannou was never been knockdown by a punch and he can take big punches, in fact in this fight he can gamble and go all out and take shots so he can deliver his shots.

That's what happened in their three losses of Joshua, his opponents did not respect his power and they knew where to hit Joshua and frustrate him, if Ngannou had done the same, Joshua would in trouble.

I hope Ngannou can surprise the world just like he did against Fury, just imagine Ngannou winning and capturing all the heavyweight title that will be for the record an amateur winning the undisputed titles, that will be boxing biggest shocker.

I think that's going to be a hell of a fight because both of them have the power required to knock each other down, but the major issue I think Anthony Joshua will have is he is fighting someone that is trying to prove a point, and it will even be more difficult for AJ because this guy Ngannou will be fighting like it's his last opportunity, so being an underdog doesn't change anything, since he is physical enough to fight Anthony Joshua toe too toe but the fight can go either side, because both men are strong.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 26, 2024, 10:52:19 AM

Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 26, 2024, 08:28:32 AM

Joshua is going to win this match, Joshua has the required experience to win this game. Let Ngannou not think that his performance against Fury is going to earn him victory over Joshua who is obsessed with coming back to the top and reclaim his belts. It's going to be a good fight no doubt about that, but I expect Joshua to knock him out.

I think most of us here think that Joshua will win, just like when Ngannou faced Fury, people thought that he has no chance but he surprise the boxing world. Now, depsite that almost an upset win by Ngannou, bookmakers are still making him as a heavy underdog, so it's up to us now to evaluete if we really believe that Ngannou really has a chance to upset Joshua on their fight.

A win for Ngannou will give him an opportunity to challenge a champion, while for AJ, he'll be back to square one again.

Though on paper this looks very predictable, but we never know what will happen in the actual fight, and since AJ is has some weakness too as evidence on his multiple losses, Ngannou might be able to exploit that.

You'll always get a surprise from a hard hitter, they only need one big punch to change the course of the fight, and Ngannou always has a chance to beat Joshua, although they both possess the power, it's the one who can take it that will win the fight, Ngannou was never been knockdown by a punch and he can take big punches, in fact in this fight he can gamble and go all out and take shots so he can deliver his shots.

That's what happened in their three losses of Joshua, his opponents did not respect his power and they knew where to hit Joshua and frustrate him, if Ngannou had done the same, Joshua would in trouble.

I hope Ngannou can surprise the world just like he did against Fury, just imagine Ngannou winning and capturing all the heavyweight title that will be for the record an amateur winning the undisputed titles, that will be boxing biggest shocker.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 26, 2024, 08:28:32 AM

Joshua is going to win this match, Joshua has the required experience to win this game. Let Ngannou not think that his performance against Fury is going to earn him victory over Joshua who is obsessed with coming back to the top and reclaim his belts. It's going to be a good fight no doubt about that, but I expect Joshua to knock him out.

I think most of us here think that Joshua will win, just like when Ngannou faced Fury, people thought that he has no chance but he surprise the boxing world. Now, depsite that almost an upset win by Ngannou, bookmakers are still making him as a heavy underdog, so it's up to us now to evaluete if we really believe that Ngannou really has a chance to upset Joshua on their fight.

A win for Ngannou will give him an opportunity to challenge a champion, while for AJ, he'll be back to square one again.

Though on paper this looks very predictable, but we never know what will happen in the actual fight, and since AJ is has some weakness too as evidence on his multiple losses, Ngannou might be able to exploit that.

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Joshua is going to win this match, Joshua has the required experience to win this game. Let Ngannou not think that his performance against Fury is going to earn him victory over Joshua who is obsessed with coming back to the top and reclaim his belts. It's going to be a good fight no doubt about that, but I expect Joshua to knock him out.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 26, 2024, 05:03:20 AM

As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

I agree that judging the whole fight and fixating on one knockdown is not the right approach, as this doesn't mean a thing. But we can't ignore the fact that it was a split decision, meaning one of the 3 professional judges saw Ngannou as the winner. I don't share that view and think Fury was a better fighter overall, but you can't blame people for siding with Francis.
Whenever there's a split decision and a fight is close, there will be controversies. And that's a good thing, it opens the door for potential, exciting rematches.

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If we are talking about Ngannou here, he has only 1 fight as a pro-boxer, but I do agree that he might have been robbed against Fury. Maybe everyone is on the bag as they don't want to derail Usyk vs Fury fight as a lot is on the line. But in this fight, if Ngannou is no longer just a hype job, he could really push Joshua to the limit here. Joshua has been mentality broken in Ruiz and Usyk fight. And if by chance Ngannou's hit his mark on Joshua's chin, this fight will end early. And Francis as well show that he had a good gas tank, so if the fight goes to distance, he can still upset Joshua as Anthony's gas tank is suspected as well and in the Usyk second fight, we have seen him getting tired in the championship rounds.

You don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the power of Ngannou, there's no doubt that he's going to kill everyone that he's punching if he does punch with all of his might. Have you seen the videos where Joe Rogan and Dana White vouched for his strength? That alone should be enough to make you believe that Ngannou will demolish Joshua in this fight, the derail part of that isn't the reason for the loss, it's the corrupt boxing federation that's creating this problem, the deserving don't win and the favorite gets the favors of the judges and Ngannou's no hype job, he can deliver what people are telling others about him.

Here's one of the times that Rogan talked about Ngannou's punching power

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Here's the one where Dana talks about the punching power of Ngannou

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https://youtube.com/shorts/1KiqYXMlQQQ?si=r-Y_7HQcfW472fOR

I'm not sure what you mean that I don't know about the power of Ngannou because I never criticized it. I never question it if you have to read my post. So just read what I said, No need to post that link about his power, because we have seen it against Fury. My question is about his stamina and gas tank as he is not used to fight this long specially the format is very different from what he used to. Derailing with the help of the judges is the same as corruption as they judges could be in the payroll though, just like the head of those governing bodies. So it trickle down to everyone, maybe the referee is also included on that. So if you believed that Francis can beat Joshua here then by all means beat huge amount of money in him. It might be your biggest win.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 26, 2024, 08:04:42 AM

Just to give an update on the poll, many of us believe that Ngannou to win it should be knockout, and if the fight goes the distance Joshua could take the fight by decision, there's a big possibility that this scenario can happen, between the two Ngannou is the heavy hitter and the one that can take a punch, if Ngannou hit that chin it could be another Andy Ruiz scenario where Joshua loses his momentum and eventually lose by stoppage, and if the fight goes the distance there's a possibility that Joshua could win by the decision because he knows how to score points on crucial rounds, so Ngannou should take the early rounds and try to catch him and knock him out if the fight drags on Joshua can take the fight by decision.

Anthony Joshua by KO   - 2 (8.3%)
Anthony Joshua by decision   - 6 (25%)
Francis Ngannou by KO   - 14 (58.3%)
Francis Ngannou by decision   - 2 (8.3%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 24

Yes, that pretty much sums-up what the poll and what the comments are. Francis being a hard hitter, should take AJ early and try to score a knockout or knockdown. And AJ being a soft-chin, should practice on getting away from that power right of Ngannou and in return, he should used his boxing skills more. However, it could also be a battle of who has more stamina and gas tank as both are very big and carry a lot of muscle mass and it could be tiring to go for a 12 round fight.

But then, for bettors, seeing Francis Ngannou as a huge underdog, for sure they gonna love it as Francis shows that he can be a live dog here.

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Just to give an update on the poll, many of us believe that Ngannou to win it should be knockout, and if the fight goes the distance Joshua could take the fight by decision, there's a big possibility that this scenario can happen, between the two Ngannou is the heavy hitter and the one that can take a punch, if Ngannou hit that chin it could be another Andy Ruiz scenario where Joshua loses his momentum and eventually lose by stoppage, and if the fight goes the distance there's a possibility that Joshua could win by the decision because he knows how to score points on crucial rounds, so Ngannou should take the early rounds and try to catch him and knock him out if the fight drags on Joshua can take the fight by decision.

Anthony Joshua by KO   - 2 (8.3%)
Anthony Joshua by decision   - 6 (25%)
Francis Ngannou by KO   - 14 (58.3%)
Francis Ngannou by decision   - 2 (8.3%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 24

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Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

He was with him during Ngannou's fight with Fury, and I think he is a big factor on that success although he wasn't the one coaching it. I'm not sure what his role is but most likely he is a trainor and gives Ngannou a fighting style that he used during his prime as a boxer, and since Tyson is still active in boxing although not as a fighter, we can assume that he continues to develop his knowledge and that's his value to Ngannou's camp.

Not every coach is a boxer, not every boxer is a coach. In a fight boxer shows his own skills and does what coach suggests him to do. Not saying that this is 50% boxer skill + 50% coach experience, ratio is different, but it isnt 100% in general. Tyson would have given only his experience to Ngannou, not his and his coach experience. If boxers were so specialists in everything, then there were no need for a coach at all. I still believe Tyson was more a media person in Ngannou corner, than a real help. Imho even without Tyson in Ngannou corner, Ngannou would have achieved the same result. In fact, during the fight, Mike Tyson was not even in Ngannou corner. He could have shouted only some advices from the crowd.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 26, 2024, 04:35:51 AM

Mike Tyson it is, he is very confident with his fighter and I know they'll do better this time. Just look at this, last time he fought a champion, now against AJ which is a big downgrade, so despite not having the experience in boxing like AJ does, I think he is still very dangerous.

Ngannou learned a lot from his lose to Fury (although fans didn't agree on a loss) so for sure we will see a different Ngannou here, a fighter that will be more aggressive and will know how to conserve his energy well.

And the refs? don't worry about that as this fight will end up in KO. As to the winner, not sure who will win between the two.

I'm almost sure that Ngannou will act more aggressively in the fight with AJ in order to knock him out. Perhaps Ngannou did not force the end of the fight with Fury because he was confident of his victory, or perhaps he was just tired.

Anyway, I expect to see a completely different Ngannou in this fight. But here the most important thing is not to forget that Joshua also has a very good punch, and in the desire to knock him out, he also need to remember about defense. The fact that Tyson helps Ngannou is good in any case, even if he does not have much experience as a coach, but he has had a lot of fights in the ring and he knows how to win, this is an important quality for every fighter, such support is worth a lot.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 26, 2024, 05:03:20 AM

Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

He was with him during Ngannou's fight with Fury, and I think he is a big factor on that success although he wasn't the one coaching it. I'm not sure what his role is but most likely he is a trainor and gives Ngannou a fighting style that he used during his prime as a boxer, and since Tyson is still active in boxing although not as a fighter, we can assume that he continues to develop his knowledge and that's his value to Ngannou's camp.

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As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

That was a controversial fight. Maybe the really lose but nobody expected the fight would be that close. And Fury is not AJ, Fury is way better, so maybe we will see an even chances here, or Ngannou could make his first win in boxing via KO.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 25, 2024, 05:41:02 PM

Just remember who is going to be in his corner again, the legend Mike Tyson.
With him by his side Ngannou is going to improve a lot, he is going to learn few more boxing tricks, and I think Joshua has much more to lose in this fight than he does.
I just hope refs wont ruin the fight again with some weird decisions just because he is coming with mma background.

Mike Tyson is a boxer with experience, he is not a coach. What can he teach Ngannou despite his favourite peak-a-boo? Sure he can give advices, but they are completely different boxers. I doubt that tactics and style Tyson coaches put in his head, will work same with a boxer with different height and reach.

As to "ruin fight again" - do you Ngannou won that fight against Fury? Maybe due to that knockdown? Knockdown only turns round from 10-9 to 10-8. That knockdown in third round is scored 10-8 in scorecard. Everything is fair.

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