[Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 - page 2.

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I think he just need to switch completely from MMA training into boxing if he wants to stay in boxing. Or make a decision where he plans to fight in the future. It is impossible to sit on two chairs at once. For example in that fight, when AJ threw fake jabs or body shots what did Ngannou do? He has tried to swipe them secondary hand (not front, right hand, dunno how it is in proper English), leaving full body open. Plus his stance was way to wide for boxing. Of course Ngannou knows better how to box than me, but AJ with such fake shots quickly found a breach in defense and shoot straight. I am not a super expert in boxing, but that move with right arm he made to avoid punch was totally wrong. For MMA it would do, as he might grab that attacking hand, gloves allow that. But in boxing it is totally wrong to do.

It's called parrying in boxing,

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A parry is the defensive technique of deflecting a punch by knocking it in a different direction. The word comes from the French, parez! - a fencing term, imperative of parer "ward off."

https://www.mrdenizates.com/blog/5-types-of-parry-in-boxing

And most likely Joshua and his team have seen this weakness of Ngannou that he will try to block it and so his face will be open for a right straight counter and that's what Joshua did in that 3x knockdown that he score.

Francis wasn't able to recognize it as maybe he is not used to it. However, he can't go full 100% on boxing right now as he has a contract with PFL so he will definitely will go back to MMF again in his next fight.

Totally owned i should say on which even if he tries to parry it but he failed on that 1st round. He should make out some adjustments on which its been clear that AJ had already found that that weakness.
A one clean straight jab in the face would really be definitely be effective or could penetrate that Ngannous defense. You could see that have right hand cover on the face and the left for parrying but
with those feints then you would really be able to weak or lower your guard down and this is something that AJ does have the edge over the opponent and it was effective.

It is really just that odd that Ngannou didnt really make out some adjustments from that 1st knockdown. He did the same thing on the 2nd and AJ did really made it
that hit hard even more.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 15, 2024, 05:22:55 AM

I think he just need to switch completely from MMA training into boxing if he wants to stay in boxing. Or make a decision where he plans to fight in the future. It is impossible to sit on two chairs at once. For example in that fight, when AJ threw fake jabs or body shots what did Ngannou do? He has tried to swipe them secondary hand (not front, right hand, dunno how it is in proper English), leaving full body open. Plus his stance was way to wide for boxing. Of course Ngannou knows better how to box than me, but AJ with such fake shots quickly found a breach in defense and shoot straight. I am not a super expert in boxing, but that move with right arm he made to avoid punch was totally wrong. For MMA it would do, as he might grab that attacking hand, gloves allow that. But in boxing it is totally wrong to do.

It's called parrying in boxing,

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A parry is the defensive technique of deflecting a punch by knocking it in a different direction. The word comes from the French, parez! - a fencing term, imperative of parer "ward off."

https://www.mrdenizates.com/blog/5-types-of-parry-in-boxing

And most likely Joshua and his team have seen this weakness of Ngannou that he will try to block it and so his face will be open for a right straight counter and that's what Joshua did in that 3x knockdown that he score.

Francis wasn't able to recognize it as maybe he is not used to it. However, he can't go full 100% on boxing right now as he has a contract with PFL so he will definitely will go back to MMF again in his next fight.

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I think he just need to switch completely from MMA training into boxing if he wants to stay in boxing. Or make a decision where he plans to fight in the future. It is impossible to sit on two chairs at once. For example in that fight, when AJ threw fake jabs or body shots what did Ngannou do? He has tried to swipe them secondary hand (not front, right hand, dunno how it is in proper English), leaving full body open. Plus his stance was way to wide for boxing. Of course Ngannou knows better how to box than me, but AJ with such fake shots quickly found a breach in defense and shoot straight. I am not a super expert in boxing, but that move with right arm he made to avoid punch was totally wrong. For MMA it would do, as he might grab that attacking hand, gloves allow that. But in boxing it is totally wrong to do.

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The first two fighters he has faced in his boxing career are top boxers, against less professional gamblers, I am sure Francis will win. He has had a good taste of boxing and must by now understand that a boxing professional will always be superior to a fighter from the MMA who wants to box.

It is a good learning experience for him, he made some good money while at it, the hype was surely there.

Francis Ngannou started his boxing career from the top. It’s possible he could have been better off fighting lower division fighters and work his way to the top. That way he would have gained the experience of being a professional boxer but that would mean less money. His fight with Tyson Fury was impressive, and later proved to be undoing. Because he performed so well against Tyson Fury, he got a lot of respect and praise. Anthony Joshaua only showed him Boxing is not the same as MMA fighting.

Francis Ngannou with UFC managed to become heavyweight champion but it all ended after several problems occurred which were related to what he wanted but Dana could not make it happen and in the end Francis Ngannou decided to stop fighting with UFC.
He entered boxing with great fight at the start of his career, namely against Fury, but Ngannou managed to fight well even though he suffered sensational defeat because many people said that Ngannou should have won.
But in this fight against Anthony Joshua he couldn't fight as well as before against Fury, humiliating knockout defeat made Ngannou feel how difficult it is to get place in boxing.
But Ngannou got it, he managed to earn huge amounts of money and this is one of the reasons Ngannou decided to get into boxing by fighting those top boxers and of course this created hype which was able to bring in huge amounts of money.

Before this fight, I felt that Ngannou would be able to get the win because seeing Ngannou previous fight, he was really great.
It just that Anthony Joshua has very strong punch and managed to knock Ngannou down in the first and second rounds, he is great in MMA or UFC but for boxing Ngannou needs lot of training.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on March 14, 2024, 05:56:54 PM

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The first two fighters he has faced in his boxing career are top boxers, against less professional gamblers, I am sure Francis will win. He has had a good taste of boxing and must by now understand that a boxing professional will always be superior to a fighter from the MMA who wants to box.

It is a good learning experience for him, he made some good money while at it, the hype was surely there.

Francis Ngannou started his boxing career from the top. It’s possible he could have been better off fighting lower division fighters and work his way to the top. That way he would have gained the experience of being a professional boxer but that would mean less money. His fight with Tyson Fury was impressive, and later proved to be undoing. Because he performed so well against Tyson Fury, he got a lot of respect and praise. Anthony Joshaua only showed him Boxing is not the same as MMA fighting.

But he has a lot of hype going into the pro ranks and that's why he started at the top, fighting Tyson Fury and the hype continues because he almost pull an upset, knocking down Tyson Fury. So I don't think that he will start from below those fighters he has fought. The theme here is that there is money to be made by him, and I think this is one of the reasons why he severe his ties with Dana White as he was not offered good money although he can bring fans to the arena and sold out the octagon when he was the main card. He can still go back to PFL and make millions, so it's really a good decision by him to go and try to test the pro ranks and had plan B in case that didn't went well for his career.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on March 13, 2024, 06:57:52 PM

The first two fighters he has faced in his boxing career are top boxers, against less professional gamblers, I am sure Francis will win. He has had a good taste of boxing and must by now understand that a boxing professional will always be superior to a fighter from the MMA who wants to box.

It is a good learning experience for him, he made some good money while at it, the hype was surely there.

Francis Ngannou started his boxing career from the top. It’s possible he could have been better off fighting lower division fighters and work his way to the top. That way he would have gained the experience of being a professional boxer but that would mean less money. His fight with Tyson Fury was impressive, and later proved to be undoing. Because he performed so well against Tyson Fury, he got a lot of respect and praise. Anthony Joshaua only showed him Boxing is not the same as MMA fighting.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

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Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.

That will be a great fight, two heavy hitters. But I think Wilder will still have the advantage.

Yeah, Wilder still has the advantage because he is used to the sport more than Ngannou. If only Ngannou is younger, he can developed into a better fighter.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Dana White is right, former UFC fighters crossing into a different sport ended like that. They ended up becoming multi-millionaires. Who cares about losing in another sport for a big payday. It's like Lebron James losing to Lionel Messi in a soccer exhibition game. No shame in that IMO. It only bring shame on Dana and his partners for keeping the huge part of UFC revenue.

Until UFC stars are not getting the same level of revenue share boxers are getting, it won't stop them from wanting to crossover.

It might be good if Dana will also address that, the payday in UFC is small as compare to these boxers who are getting millions in every fight if they are a champion. Unlike UFC fighters though. Perhaps fighters like Conor or Jones can command millions per fight. But the rest is getting little paycheck to paycheck. So it make sense for fighters like Francis to set greener pasteur on the other side of the fence.

UFC superstars have better contracts now especially to demanding fighters. But still far from boxers' PPV revenue share and their purse guarantees. But maybe boxing superstars are overpaid or their purse guarantees are just too high which is why networks like HBO and Showtime left.

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Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.
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Not a big fan of Wilder, but I wouldn't say he's lacking skills. The guy has more knockouts than any other active heavyweight. He also sent Fury to the canvas few times (but then again, so did Francis).
As for the Wilder Vs Ngannou - I think the way AJ defeated Francis effectively killed his boxing hype and he's no longer seen as an attractive opponent. Ironically it would be better if he stayed down after the first knock out, as then it could be spun as a "lucky" punch, or just a brief moment of him getting careless etc. But Joshua was so dominant, that there's no doubt he was just multiple levels above Ngannou in boxing skills.

I think we're much more likely to see Wilder Vs AJ, which would indeed be a great fight to watch.

As for Ngannou, the PFL has already announced he will return to mma and will be fighting Renan Ferreira, although the date is not yet set:
https://www.pflmma.com/news/ngannou-to-make-pfl-mma-debut-against-winner-of-pfl-champions-vs-bellator-champions-heavyweight-superfight-between-renan-ferreira-and-ryan-bader

Wilder is overrated, a product of careful matchmaking and was pumping his wins against nobodies. Wilder needs 32 wins before fighting for the belt. Cherry picked opponents for his title defenses. Ducked Wladimir Klitschko for years hostage the belt and preventing the division to have an undisputed champion. Instead of challenging AJ for the undisputed belts he challenged and tried to exploit Fury who just came back from long years of inactivity and mental problems. AJ only need 15 and Usyk only 9 fights before having their title fights and were ready to unify the belts once they became champions.

I think Ngannou being inactive from MMA is taking a huge risk against Ferreira. We'll see if he takes Ferreira because Ngannou even if he lost badly to AJ might still receive bigger purse in boxing.

Good hit on Wilder Cheesy

Its funny how people consider him being a heavyweight, when he weight less than Usyk, who had to gain to be a heavyweight Cheesy

That being light on the feet helped him to be a little bit quicker than his opponents and connect overhands or throw those sweeping blows straight from Alabama. Plus his reach advantage.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 13, 2024, 03:46:10 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

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Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.

That will be a great fight, two heavy hitters. But I think Wilder will still have the advantage.

Yeah, Wilder still has the advantage because he is used to the sport more than Ngannou. If only Ngannou is younger, he can developed into a better fighter.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Dana White is right, former UFC fighters crossing into a different sport ended like that. They ended up becoming multi-millionaires. Who cares about losing in another sport for a big payday. It's like Lebron James losing to Lionel Messi in a soccer exhibition game. No shame in that IMO. It only bring shame on Dana and his partners for keeping the huge part of UFC revenue.

Until UFC stars are not getting the same level of revenue share boxers are getting, it won't stop them from wanting to crossover.

It might be good if Dana will also address that, the payday in UFC is small as compare to these boxers who are getting millions in every fight if they are a champion. Unlike UFC fighters though. Perhaps fighters like Conor or Jones can command millions per fight. But the rest is getting little paycheck to paycheck. So it make sense for fighters like Francis to set greener pasteur on the other side of the fence.

UFC superstars have better contracts now especially to demanding fighters. But still far from boxers' PPV revenue share and their purse guarantees. But maybe boxing superstars are overpaid or their purse guarantees are just too high which is why networks like HBO and Showtime left.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.
(...)

Not a big fan of Wilder, but I wouldn't say he's lacking skills. The guy has more knockouts than any other active heavyweight. He also sent Fury to the canvas few times (but then again, so did Francis).
As for the Wilder Vs Ngannou - I think the way AJ defeated Francis effectively killed his boxing hype and he's no longer seen as an attractive opponent. Ironically it would be better if he stayed down after the first knock out, as then it could be spun as a "lucky" punch, or just a brief moment of him getting careless etc. But Joshua was so dominant, that there's no doubt he was just multiple levels above Ngannou in boxing skills.

I think we're much more likely to see Wilder Vs AJ, which would indeed be a great fight to watch.

As for Ngannou, the PFL has already announced he will return to mma and will be fighting Renan Ferreira, although the date is not yet set:
https://www.pflmma.com/news/ngannou-to-make-pfl-mma-debut-against-winner-of-pfl-champions-vs-bellator-champions-heavyweight-superfight-between-renan-ferreira-and-ryan-bader

Wilder is overrated, a product of careful matchmaking and was pumping his wins against nobodies. Wilder needs 32 wins before fighting for the belt. Cherry picked opponents for his title defenses. Ducked Wladimir Klitschko for years hostage the belt and preventing the division to have an undisputed champion. Instead of challenging AJ for the undisputed belts he challenged and tried to exploit Fury who just came back from long years of inactivity and mental problems. AJ only need 15 and Usyk only 9 fights before having their title fights and were ready to unify the belts once they became champions.

I think Ngannou being inactive from MMA is taking a huge risk against Ferreira. We'll see if he takes Ferreira because Ngannou even if he lost badly to AJ might still receive bigger purse in boxing.

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For sure, Ngannou will excel in boxing with time, if puts his mind to it, at least he now knows that boxing is not only by physical strength alone but by the way one applies their defense and tactics they use to attack their opponent.

The first two fighters he has faced in his boxing career are top boxers, against less professional gamblers, I am sure Francis will win. He has had a good taste of boxing and must by now understand that a boxing professional will always be superior to a fighter from the MMA who wants to box.

It is a good learning experience for him, he made some good money while at it, the hype was surely there.

And just like that, the hype have died down for Francis and it proves superiority of boxers over MMA in a boxing match and rules. Yeah, the first one might give him the taste of confidence as he put a good effort and even knock down the best HW in this generation and he could have won in the judges scorecard. But against a well prepared Anthony Joshua, it was a totally different outcome, he was knockout x3 wasn't even get close to what he did against Fury. Maybe in the second tier HW division, he could probably won some, but against the top, like AJ and Usyk, he will look like an amateur against this boxers.

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Quote from: Marykeller on March 13, 2024, 01:26:05 PM

For sure, Ngannou will excel in boxing with time, if puts his mind to it, at least he now knows that boxing is not only by physical strength alone but by the way one applies their defense and tactics they use to attack their opponent.

The first two fighters he has faced in his boxing career are top boxers, against less professional gamblers, I am sure Francis will win. He has had a good taste of boxing and must by now understand that a boxing professional will always be superior to a fighter from the MMA who wants to box.

It is a good learning experience for him, he made some good money while at it, the hype was surely there.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.
(...)

Not a big fan of Wilder, but I wouldn't say he's lacking skills. The guy has more knockouts than any other active heavyweight. He also sent Fury to the canvas few times (but then again, so did Francis).
As for the Wilder Vs Ngannou - I think the way AJ defeated Francis effectively killed his boxing hype and he's no longer seen as an attractive opponent. Ironically it would be better if he stayed down after the first knock out, as then it could be spun as a "lucky" punch, or just a brief moment of him getting careless etc. But Joshua was so dominant, that there's no doubt he was just multiple levels above Ngannou in boxing skills.

I think we're much more likely to see Wilder Vs AJ, which would indeed be a great fight to watch.

As for Ngannou, the PFL has already announced he will return to mma and will be fighting Renan Ferreira, although the date is not yet set:
https://www.pflmma.com/news/ngannou-to-make-pfl-mma-debut-against-winner-of-pfl-champions-vs-bellator-champions-heavyweight-superfight-between-renan-ferreira-and-ryan-bader

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As Dana White put it,

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“You know how I feel about crossovers into boxing,” White told reporters following UFC 299 in Miami. “That’s how they end. Just like that.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/dana-white-s-how-crossovers-into-boxing-end--182037

@inthelongrun - I do agree, I think if you are really a boxing fan, we all know that at some point, the skills of AJ as boxer will take over.

However, I don't think that this will stop though, those MMA fighters crossing over and making a ton of money like what Francis got in only 2 fights as a pro boxer. And we have the classic example of Floyd vs Conor as the first cross over fights that generated tons of money to a MMA fighter.

Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.

That will be a great fight, two heavy hitters. But I think Wilder will still have the advantage.

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Dana White is right, former UFC fighters crossing into a different sport ended like that. They ended up becoming multi-millionaires. Who cares about losing in another sport for a big payday. It's like Lebron James losing to Lionel Messi in a soccer exhibition game. No shame in that IMO. It only bring shame on Dana and his partners for keeping the huge part of UFC revenue.

Until UFC stars are not getting the same level of revenue share boxers are getting, it won't stop them from wanting to crossover.

It might be good if Dana will also address that, the payday in UFC is small as compare to these boxers who are getting millions in every fight if they are a champion. Unlike UFC fighters though. Perhaps fighters like Conor or Jones can command millions per fight. But the rest is getting little paycheck to paycheck. So it make sense for fighters like Francis to set greener pasteur on the other side of the fence.

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I doubt that he underestimated Anthony Joshua. I believe what really happen is we overestimated him thinking he has a shot on beating a real pro boxer AJ. He was there because of the hype, we bought it and we believe he can win, when actually he is not a championship caliber fighter, he is just a newbie in boxing. I know he is good back in UFC, but that does not automatically make him great in boxing as well.

People thought Francis will be able to hold off Aj, same way he did Fury. Boxing can be an unpredictable game, a game where title holders can lose to the underdogs in the case of Anthony Joshua and Francis, I feel like Aj was underestimated in the fight, they didn’t expect the match to take that quick turn of Aj winning by knockout. Now people will know that the UFC is way different from Boxing. Its training is more intensive compared to UFC game. Francis Ngannou need to consider switching Into boxing. Aj even encouraged he doesn’t give up on his boxing aspiration. Despite his lost he still cashout in his ends.
Personally I think Francis will excel in boxing if he focus on the game, he has the physique and of course the strength, at least we can’t deny that he has those qualities, he his an amazing athlete and if he keep his mind right and ready he can face any opponent thrown at him.

For sure, Ngannou will excel in boxing with time, if puts his mind to it, at least he now knows that boxing is not only by physical strength alone but by the way one applies their defense and tactics they use to attack their opponent.

A boxer doesn't go into a fight against their opponent with a defenseless method, hoping to win them by that. That's the mistake Ngannou made to fight Anthony Joshua who is fast and tactical in boxing.

I don't think Ngannou studied Anthony Joshua's fighting skills. That was why was beaten up like an amateur boxer, he came into boxing newly.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.

If Wilder will not train hard, then maybe. But in case Wilder will be back, I'm sure he will train hard because he was coming from a loss, a huge upset. it was suppose to be Wilder vs AJ but Wilder said good bye early. LOL...

I don't know if Francis will still return in boxing after that embarrassing loss.

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 13, 2024, 09:48:18 AM

Dana White is right, former UFC fighters crossing into a different sport ended like that. They ended up becoming multi-millionaires. Who cares about losing in another sport for a big payday. It's like Lebron James losing to Lionel Messi in a soccer exhibition game. No shame in that IMO. It only bring shame on Dana and his partners for keeping the huge part of UFC revenue.

Until UFC stars are not getting the same level of revenue share boxers are getting, it won't stop them from wanting to crossover.

They were there for the money in the first place. Fighters are more practical now, they understand that it's a short term career, so they will find a way to maximize their earning. And since exhibition fights are already accepted now, it has become normal already and people will not criticize.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 12, 2024, 06:07:19 AM

As Dana White put it,

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“You know how I feel about crossovers into boxing,” White told reporters following UFC 299 in Miami. “That’s how they end. Just like that.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/dana-white-s-how-crossovers-into-boxing-end--182037

@inthelongrun - I do agree, I think if you are really a boxing fan, we all know that at some point, the skills of AJ as boxer will take over.

However, I don't think that this will stop though, those MMA fighters crossing over and making a ton of money like what Francis got in only 2 fights as a pro boxer. And we have the classic example of Floyd vs Conor as the first cross over fights that generated tons of money to a MMA fighter.

Yeah, maybe Ngannou has a better chance of winning against Wilder because that guy has little skills in boxing.

Dana White is right, former UFC fighters crossing into a different sport ended like that. They ended up becoming multi-millionaires. Who cares about losing in another sport for a big payday. It's like Lebron James losing to Lionel Messi in a soccer exhibition game. No shame in that IMO. It only bring shame on Dana and his partners for keeping the huge part of UFC revenue.

Until UFC stars are not getting the same level of revenue share boxers are getting, it won't stop them from wanting to crossover.

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Instead I would better watch Ngannou having mma fight. I am more interested to see if he still has that "mma skill" or turning into boxing changed his style. According to wiki, his next fight in mma would be against Renan Ferreira who has knocked out Ryan Bader in 21 sec of first round. Ferreiras record is also impressive 11 KOes in 13 wins. Perhaps next time Ngannou will end up on the floor early will be the octagon floor.

And it also added that Francis chin has been broken already so maybe his aura of invincibility is gone as far as MMA goes and whoever his opponent will be will target that chin and obviously is going to test Francis now and most likely they won't be intimidated by it. On the contrary they will used that knockout against him, MMA has a lot of trash talkers as well so maybe Renan Ferreira as part of the psyche war. Not sure when is the date of his next fight. Probably Francis is just healing after that devastating lost from the hands of AJ. But we will see if he still has it, or if AJ took his soul already.

We can't underestimate his skills in MMA. In fact, we should be amaze with his performance in boxing which is not his main sport. Lots of popular MMA fighters that are not doing good in boxing, just like McGregor, when he fought Mayweather he doesn't look like he has a chance, at least Ngannou were able to amaze the world giving Fury a hard fight that resulted to a controversial decision.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 13, 2024, 03:20:57 AM

Instead I would better watch Ngannou having mma fight. I am more interested to see if he still has that "mma skill" or turning into boxing changed his style. According to wiki, his next fight in mma would be against Renan Ferreira who has knocked out Ryan Bader in 21 sec of first round. Ferreiras record is also impressive 11 KOes in 13 wins. Perhaps next time Ngannou will end up on the floor early will be the octagon floor.

And it also added that Francis chin has been broken already so maybe his aura of invincibility is gone as far as MMA goes and whoever his opponent will be will target that chin and obviously is going to test Francis now and most likely they won't be intimidated by it. On the contrary they will used that knockout against him, MMA has a lot of trash talkers as well so maybe Renan Ferreira as part of the psyche war. Not sure when is the date of his next fight. Probably Francis is just healing after that devastating lost from the hands of AJ. But we will see if he still has it, or if AJ took his soul already.

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Instead I would better watch Ngannou having mma fight. I am more interested to see if he still has that "mma skill" or turning into boxing changed his style. According to wiki, his next fight in mma would be against Renan Ferreira who has knocked out Ryan Bader in 21 sec of first round. Ferreiras record is also impressive 11 KOes in 13 wins. Perhaps next time Ngannou will end up on the floor early will be the octagon floor.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on March 12, 2024, 01:43:44 PM

He has to. He signed a deal with the PFL and also has equity in them so it's in his interests to promote them, but he's said his gameplan was always to do both. He might not have much motivation to fight in MMA given I believe his PFL guarantee is 2 million per fight, but I also think the price he commands will have fallen significantly after the bad AJ loss. Personally, I think his best option is to go blitz someone in the PFL and then fight another decent boxer, but maybe not one of the current top 5. I think a good boxing match for both parties would be Ngannou V Wilder. Wilder had a bad performance last against Jospeh Parker so will be wanting to get some of his mojo back and he's been pretty much cast-aside right now and doesn't really have anything to fight for so he might as well take the money whilst he can. I'd also like to see him rematch Fury but Fury will be tied up most of this year with the two Usyk fights and then I'm sure he will go for the AJ fight unless something stops that like AJ going for the third Usyk fight if Usyk still has the belts.

This was the first time that someone came outside from boxing world and had fights with two boxing champions directly.
I think you are right to say that he should not fight against top boxing fighters anymore, and it takes time to improve skills and recover mentally and physically.
Wilder vs Ngannou would be interesting to watch, but I think one of them would end up on floor early, maybe Ngannou again.

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Quote from: Fatunad on March 12, 2024, 02:22:03 PM

This is some side comment from Fury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYJk05OtMg
'YOU GOT COCKY & GOT KNOCKED OUT' - TYSON FURY REACTS TO ANTHONY JOSHUA DESTROYING FRANCIS NGANNOU

Fury has always somethin to say. It's pretty normal to him but we can't criticize on him since until now he is still undefeate despite not having an impressive win over Ngannou, but now that it seems Ngannou is already out of the conversation, then it will him (Fury) and AJ that we might be talking in the future if Fury will be successful in defeating Usyk which many of us here think would not happen.

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