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Francis Ngannou’s story is fascinating, I think Netflix will make a movie about him soon. For the Antony Joshua-Francis Ngannou fight, my favorite to win is Francis Ngannou. I watched his match against Tyson Fury and with all due respect to Tyson Fury, he was beat in the match and should not have been declared the winner. Francis Ngannou took the world by surprise on that fight, and his confidence is very strong. That being said, Anthony Joshua isn’t in the best of form and I don’t think he can defeat Francis Ngannou tomorrow.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Similar to what I have argued before, this certainly is because of Francis Ngannou's shocking performance against Tyson Fury who is a big name in boxing. Before this, no one has heard of Francis Ngannou's name or has cared for him being a champion in MMA. Also, another reason for this support might be because Ngannou is the underdog for this fight hehehe. The supporters also like Ngannou's story about being a poor child working in the sandmines where he developed a very strong warrior's body hehehe.

I think it's more of Francis performance against Tyson Fury. I mean he shows that he is capable of pulling an upset, yes, he admit that he gets tired, but still though we can't take away from his performance and so fans fell in love for Francis. And now that he has another, another high stakes fight, people now are willing to watch him live or PPV and again, hope that he will mind this time.

People are really emotional when they hear stories of boxers, like Manny Pacquiao's rag to riches and maybe it's what they feel about Francis now. But Ngannou should give us the results that we wanted so that they hype will still continue and then facing next the winner of Fury vs Usyk.
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Final weigh-ins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpvLa71E_M

Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.

Once again I want Ngannou to win. But I don't think he gets lucky for the second time. Fury trained at McDonalds during Ngannou's debut but this time AJ is training hard and is not underestimating. Maybe AJ will try to outbox Ngannou early on, avoiding the heavy punches. AJ is also not very used finishing 12 round fights but his stamina should stay longer than that of Ngannou.

There's a lot of jeopardy in this fight. If AJ loses then that's a huge embarrassment and could spell the end of his run to try get his belts back. However, if he wins then that puts him one fight closer to the Fury fight. If he gets a stoppage/KO then that's one thing he managed that Tyson didn't. I think Francis is going to want to make a statement too and go for the KO so he doesn't leave the outcome in the hands of the judges. Francis knows what he's capable of now so he can try use 100% of his punching power whilst knowing he can go the full ten rounds. However, AJ also knows what to expect now and I don't think he will make the same mistake that Tyson did by underestimating him. AJs trainer said he watch the Fury/Ngannou fight over 30 times so they should be well prepared for what Francis will bring.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Similar to what I have argued before, this certainly is because of Francis Ngannou's shocking performance against Tyson Fury who is a big name in boxing. Before this, no one has heard of Francis Ngannou's name or has cared for him being a champion in MMA. Also, another reason for this support might be because Ngannou is the underdog for this fight hehehe. The supporters also like Ngannou's story about being a poor child working in the sandmines where he developed a very strong warrior's body hehehe.
Francis Ngannou story can be considered a Rocky story and it will eventually happen if he beats Joshua, some people are still underestimating Ngannou just because he only has one fight but it is different if you win against a regular heavyweight and loses but scores a knockdown against a boxer considered to be a lineal and one of the generations greatest boxer, I have seen the face-off and both fighters are very cordial, both fighters did not engage in any thrash talks and but I don't want to make a mistake that it's a friendly match I expect both fighters to go to for a knock out as this is a very important fight for both fighters, this is a survival fight for both fighters.
For sure, this is going to be a big battle, and it might look like they are respectful, but during fight night, they will take each other off. Specially the power the Ngannou possesses, it might be ugly if he hit Joshua in the face and can't survived. On the other hand, Ngannou says that he admit he struggles in a 10 round fight, but it doesn't mean that he will not go for a knockout everyone he fights. Even in MMA, he always look for a highlight knockout reel and we've seen his opponents just slumping down with eyes rolling and most likely not recalling anything after they wake up.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Similar to what I have argued before, this certainly is because of Francis Ngannou's shocking performance against Tyson Fury who is a big name in boxing. Before this, no one has heard of Francis Ngannou's name or has cared for him being a champion in MMA. Also, another reason for this support might be because Ngannou is the underdog for this fight hehehe. The supporters also like Ngannou's story about being a poor child working in the sandmines where he developed a very strong warrior's body hehehe.
Francis Ngannou story can be considered a Rocky story and it will eventually happen if he beats Joshua, some people are still underestimating Ngannou just because he only has one fight but it is different if you win against a regular heavyweight and loses but scores a knockdown against a boxer considered to be a lineal and one of the generations greatest boxer, I have seen the face-off and both fighters are very cordial, both fighters did not engage in any thrash talks and but I don't want to make a mistake that it's a friendly match I expect both fighters to go to for a knock out as this is a very important fight for both fighters, this is a survival fight for both fighters.
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Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.
although AJ hasn't pushed himself been to his peak lately, I still know that he his a better fighter in this scenario. You know one thing about statistics like this, people would normally wish that the weaker and unpopular one wins in the fight but the reality is that stats don't determine the outcome of a fight.

I'm not underratting Ngannou's  strength in giving Anthony Joshua a fair fight in this coming match but just pin this down that the great AJ will knock him out before the complete round.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Similar to what I have argued before, this certainly is because of Francis Ngannou's shocking performance against Tyson Fury who is a big name in boxing. Before this, no one has heard of Francis Ngannou's name or has cared for him being a champion in MMA. Also, another reason for this support might be because Ngannou is the underdog for this fight hehehe. The supporters also like Ngannou's story about being a poor child working in the sandmines where he developed a very strong warrior's body hehehe.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Maybe you are right that people support Ngannou because he is an underdog. Just thought about yet. Yes, maybe you are right. People like to support the one who "seems to be weaker", because what is the point when dominant wins dominantly over a weaker opponent.

Or maybe people want more blood, more skulls, more entertainment. If Ngannou wins, he would continue smashing opponents. People miss that hurricane, that power, that brutality that for example Mike Tyson used to created in the ring. People got tired of watching boxers dancing and jabbing/clinching their opponents to death in heavyweights.

Yeah, I might have to agree on certain points, specially on the brutality that is Mike Tyson before. We haven't seen that kind of boxers before, Wilder was close with that raw power, but Fury already taken his soul and could be way past his prime after their fight. Now enter Francis Ngannou, fighter from MMA and with raw power, almost upset Tyson Fury if not for the judge. Now we face a soft fighter in Anthony Joshua, chin already suspected and we can just image if he hits that with full power or at least what he gives to Fury, I think AJ might not able to come back and just stay in the canvass and can't recover. So almost everyone voted for him here because that's what we wanted to see in this fight, violent ending with a one punch knockout.
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Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.

His showing against Fury might really do it for boxing fans here to vote for him and bet this victory. AJ's chin has been broken down and once Francis chin touches that, AJ might not withstand the power.

Once again I want Ngannou to win. But I don't think he gets lucky for the second time. Fury trained at McDonalds during Ngannou's debut but this time AJ is training hard and is not underestimating. Maybe AJ will try to outbox Ngannou early on, avoiding the heavy punches. AJ is also not very used finishing 12 round fights but his stamina should stay longer than that of Ngannou.

We will find it out, Ngannou's one scary dude, even at the press conference if you watch it and going back and forth against Fury, and let me quote what he said,

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“I’m gonna wipe the ring with your a** again, “There was blood in the ring. Your only chance is in the boxing ring with the boxing rules. When you step out of the ring you better stay away, because if I lose it, you’re going to have a really bad time, my friend. Respect the fact that boxing is protecting your a**, and the rules are protecting you. I’ll beat you every day; twice on Sunday.”

It sent shivers to my spine when he talks back to Fury with that.
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Although Rogan always has the habit of exaggerating things, I can agree that Ngannou really has to most powerful punch and it's no wonder he knocked down Fury and it wasn't even his full swing. If it was, Fury may not have stood back up again. The Dana speaking right there I think was before Ngannou asked for his freedom to fight in boxing.

Once Ngannou achieves this win,  a lot more fights that Ngannou will face before Fury will ever give him the rematch. The bright side is he will get millions.

The fact that the scale of his punches was the power of a full force semi truck going towards you is a testament of how strong Ngannou is, I still think that his knockdown on Fury was a win but boxing federation is corrupt. Totally agree with you about the result of the win, more boxers will definitely try their hands against Ngannou and he's going to be getting a payday when this happens, on the alternate that he loses, he'd probably still find some fights but definitely not that spectacular. Another thing that can probably make him sell more fights and rake in more cash is probably through showmanship, make the fight look good on camera and for the spectators, drag it as much as possible and beautifully and he'll definitely find some more fights.
Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.
Ngannou's a power puncher so I don't think that it's a no-brainer why they(including me) choose Ngannou. I haven't bet anything yet but tomorrow, I might do it but my money's on Ngannou. AJ's only way out of this one is to knockout Ngannou or tire him out since he's a bigger guy.
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Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.

Once again I want Ngannou to win. But I don't think he gets lucky for the second time. Fury trained at McDonalds during Ngannou's debut but this time AJ is training hard and is not underestimating. Maybe AJ will try to outbox Ngannou early on, avoiding the heavy punches. AJ is also not very used finishing 12 round fights but his stamina should stay longer than that of Ngannou.
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No doubt that among boxers AJ is more popular than Ngannou Cheesy But in general, for people who are just spectators, give them google and they would found that Ngannou is way better than AJ, because he knockout people cold.

Maybe you are right that people support Ngannou because he is an underdog. Just thought about yet. Yes, maybe you are right. People like to support the one who "seems to be weaker", because what is the point when dominant wins dominantly over a weaker opponent.

Or maybe people want more blood, more skulls, more entertainment. If Ngannou wins, he would continue smashing opponents. People miss that hurricane, that power, that brutality that for example Mike Tyson used to created in the ring. People got tired of watching boxers dancing and jabbing/clinching their opponents to death in heavyweights.
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Few days left for the fight guys, better get your popcorns and beverages ready on time.
If Ngannou manages to win in dominant fashion I expect to see boxing world changed forever, maybe they will start to respect MMA fighters a lot more.
I watched the faceoff and Ngannou looked cooler to me, but better watch press conference and judge for yourself: https://youtu.be/VJd7ey52ZaY



Odds on Sportsbet are very juicy on Ngannou, but I dont think this fight is going long distance:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47

Are you predicting that Ngannou will knockout Joshua? I reckon Anthony Joshua cannot knockout Ngannou heheheheeh.

@TopTort777. I disagree, Anthony Joshua is also very famous and more famous for boxing fans. This support is certainly because of Francis Ngannou's very shocking performance vs. Tyson Fury. These many fans have supported and predicted that Fury will win very quickly, however, we have witnessed something very different. Tyson Fury was the winner but it was considered an upset for the fans of Fury. Presently it appears that Ngannou is the underdog story in boxing where the many will easily support.
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Many support Ngannou mostly because of his fame. People evaluate those two by watching highlights. Of course Ngannou is discussed more, as we did not see any vicious knockouts from AJ. Also if we look on the base of AJ boxing, then we would find his is an Olympic boxer was originally. That kind of boxing is different from professional. Even though it is also aimed on knocking opponent out, but they win often by gaining points. Maybe this would help AJ to outbox Ngannou technically, but he wont survive clean punch like Fury did. As well as people suppet AJ because he is a national hero, who gon gold Olympic medal. That is imho a bigger recognition than UFC heavyweight.
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Maybe you are right, because in last two fights, Ngannou managed to surprise me. I have expected him to be clumsy in the ring, to be more snail-paced, but he showed good boxing, good timing, leg movement. Usually guys from mma dont move like that, because they avoid one or double leg takedown. He has surprised in his last mma fight. I have expected him to do pressure and power punches, instead he wrestled more. We expect him to knockout AJ, but he might instead do (or try, as this tactics work) Usyk-style - spam with punches and win by points.
If Anthony Joshua fails to win by knockout I doubt he will win by any other means because the coming match is an emotional one with many people surprisingly supporting Francis Ngannou this time. There support is a surprise because Anthony Joshua has always been the favorite of many people, the support has been instrumental to his successes even though he is very good at what he does. Now that emotions has creeped, many are saying that it is time for Francis Ngannou to also taste the fame. Is this strong enough to justify a support? I am looking forward to a very interesting match and may the best win.
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Not sure if someone will try to play this game or not. But if you are interest, you can see the link here, both in English and Arabic: https://www.knockoutchaos.com/.


Thanks for sharing. I had a go and managed to beat up Ngannou on the 2nd attempt.



That's an interesting way of promoting a fight, I don't think anyone has done it in the past. They could have done a little better with playability, i.e. add body shots etc.


Only two days to go and not much has changed in terms of odds, AJ is still the favourite at x1.27, and betting on Francis you can get x3.75 which is not that much really considering it's only his 2nd boxing fight.

Link to the press conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooj-jhIvNuI
Shorter version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm0cnP2rAa8
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Few days left for the fight guys, better get your popcorns and beverages ready on time.
If Ngannou manages to win in dominant fashion I expect to see boxing world changed forever, maybe they will start to respect MMA fighters a lot more.
I watched the faceoff and Ngannou looked cooler to me, but better watch press conference and judge for yourself: https://youtu.be/VJd7ey52ZaY



Odds on Sportsbet are very juicy on Ngannou, but I dont think this fight is going long distance:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
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The fight promo trailer is epic, it looks like a movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOHS1ajTmdA

I’m expecting AJ should have an easier time than Fury did against Ngannou. I’m expecting a knockout from AJ in this fight.
I click the link but the video no longer exist, but I search again and I found this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MhhsTcKg34

nice trailer, this started with Francis vs Fury and they never failed to amazed us, whoever is making this, it's a good way for marketing purposes.
Great job!



Ngannou I think is the strongest puncher that AJ will encounter, I doubt this will end in a Draw but if the fight result is a draw, I would really think Sky Sports posted this video as a message and it can only mean one thing, it's rigged.


It will be the strongest if Ngannou is able to hit Joshua. AJ knows that if he gets hit, he might not be able to stand up, so it's foolish of him to let that happen. What I see here is that AJ will use his boxing skills, probably his quickness against Ngannou, and will tire him out throughout the entire rounds. AJ also has a high KO rate, but he can't take chances trying to look for a knockout, as there's a risk he will be caught with Ngannou's counter.

Ngannou's fight vs Fury was impressive, but the latter said he didn't prepare for the fight properly. So AJ surely will not say the same since he is up for ranking, so he'll give his 100% to get an impressive win.

Ruiz made him so underdog and you can compare how Ngannou can easily knock Ruiz down with one hit on the head no sweat. Ngannou is a better fighter and stronger fighter than Ruiz.

The odds however is just not making sense.
AJ 1.22 vs NGannou 4.00

FYI, AJ was listed as favorites on their 2 fights. First fight Ruiz upset AJ but on the 2nd fight he beat AJ.
You can check that on his record https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659461

Regarding the odds, there's nothing wrong with that IMO .However if you feel that NGannou is underestimated with 4.00 odds, might as well take it and bet.

Agreed! The gamblers who want to bet on Francis Ngannou should be very happy to receive 4.00 odds from the oddsmakers. However, I also agree that Ngannou might be very underestimated for this fight. On Fury vs. Ngannou, I said Fury would put Ngannou on a stretcher and the stretcher will be pulled by Mike Tyson out of the ring. But after witnessing Ngannou's performance against Fury, it was a mistake to underestimate him and what are the oddsmakers doing on Ngannou again? Yes, they are underestimating him hehehehee. I reckon Joshua will not stand up if Ngannou connects.
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Thanks. I'm sticking with AJ here, would not change my decision although Ngannou could knock him cold.
AJ has experience on his side, but that experience will be tested against Francis. The date of the fight draws nearer, and I can only imagine the kind of tension and pressure mounting on both fighters. AJ has seen his better days in boxing I believe, but the better days of Francis are still yet to come. Francis first fight against Tyson Fury is enough mental preparation for the fight against AJ because Fury is even a more skilled and stronger fighter than AJ. AJ will not win easily on March 9th.

The pressure on AJ is more significant than on Francis since he is not a natural boxer and is just starting his journey in the heavyweight division. The reason why he is in this position is due to his impressive showing in his previous fight against Fury. I think the outcome of this fight will determine if Francis truly has the potential to become a champion. As a former champion, AJ understands how much is at stake, and he wouldn't allow Francis to be a hindrance to his goal of becoming a champion again.

He has should that he could really be a good boxer, he has the natural talent to be one. Just imagine though if Francis at the young age started to box and developed to be a great professional boxer. But here we are, we will witnessed after this first fight against Fury, if Fury can sustain his good showing against Joshua. Although we have seen the he is a big underdog again.

The hype is still high, and it seems like the public is favoring Francis to win. They can't be blamed, though, as Francis was able to knock down Fury, who is arguably considered the best in this division and that indicates how dangerous Francis is.

Yes, it's more of fans wanting him to put a upset here. The first time it was really close and there are pundits who see him winning against Fury. But against shall we shall a weaker opponents and which chin are suspected, fans wants to see him crush AJ and knock him out again.
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The fight promo trailer is epic, it looks like a movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOHS1ajTmdA

I’m expecting AJ should have an easier time than Fury did against Ngannou. I’m expecting a knockout from AJ in this fight.
I click the link but the video no longer exist, but I search again and I found this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MhhsTcKg34

nice trailer, this started with Francis vs Fury and they never failed to amazed us, whoever is making this, it's a good way for marketing purposes.
Great job!



Ngannou I think is the strongest puncher that AJ will encounter, I doubt this will end in a Draw but if the fight result is a draw, I would really think Sky Sports posted this video as a message and it can only mean one thing, it's rigged.


It will be the strongest if Ngannou is able to hit Joshua. AJ knows that if he gets hit, he might not be able to stand up, so it's foolish of him to let that happen. What I see here is that AJ will use his boxing skills, probably his quickness against Ngannou, and will tire him out throughout the entire rounds. AJ also has a high KO rate, but he can't take chances trying to look for a knockout, as there's a risk he will be caught with Ngannou's counter.

Ngannou's fight vs Fury was impressive, but the latter said he didn't prepare for the fight properly. So AJ surely will not say the same since he is up for ranking, so he'll give his 100% to get an impressive win.

Ruiz made him so underdog and you can compare how Ngannou can easily knock Ruiz down with one hit on the head no sweat. Ngannou is a better fighter and stronger fighter than Ruiz.

The odds however is just not making sense.
AJ 1.22 vs NGannou 4.00

FYI, AJ was listed as favorites on their 2 fights. First fight Ruiz upset AJ but on the 2nd fight he beat AJ.
You can check that on his record https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659461

Regarding the odds, there's nothing wrong with that IMO .However if you feel that NGannou is underestimated with 4.00 odds, might as well take it and bet.
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