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Topic: [Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship - page 15. (Read 3554 times)

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The odds so far are:

ML: 1.80 - for Beterbiev, 1.94 for Bivol. And as per poll, our boxing fans here knows their stuff about these fighters and so they lean towards Beterbiev as well.

So yes, it's a even fight for this two Russians, and just like what everyone says, gonna be close and difficult to chose at least for now.

But the fight is still far, and there could be a lot of factors that might swayed us as to who is going to be our bet on this fight.

I'm not seeing a wild swing on the odds though, Beterbiev will be the favorite based on his knockout percentage and Bivol knows that. It might be close though and as we see, for boxing fans, gonna be hard to pick the winner as both as capable to pull, it's just either KO by Beterbiev or the strength of Bivol to carry him all the way to championship rounds and then into the full 12 rounds. And with that, the this might be the closest fight that we can see for this year. We see Ryan being a huge underdog against Haney, and all other fights that we think is close, the odds maker think otherwise. But not in this case, even them knows that it could be as close as a 50/50 match.

Based on the betting odds, yes it's a 50/50 match. I believe we will not have a hard time putting our bet as the odds are very competitive, we can get 1.90 on either boxer, so we just have to determine now on who we will think will win. As for majority of us here, we are thinking that Beterbiev will win because he is the heavy punches, all wins are in KO, who would not bet on that.

I hope the bookies are not mistaken with the betting odds as this fight is obviously for Beterbiev, although both are undefeated, they are champions but it's nice to bet on a fighter that we think could anytime finish his opponent. The only bet I find more appealing is Beterbiev winning via KO, but maybe it could be the same with his current betting odds now.

I don't think that bookies will be wrong with that odds, as mostly crypto related sports bookies get their odds from the odd makers in Las Vegas itself. And those odd makers really are the top of the game in boxing. So maybe they have a lot of factors that they look up before coming with this odds. Bivol's win against Canelo, which he is the huge underdog and then he win is one of them. And then maybe his age.

But for boxing fans, in which a boxer with that high ko percentage? we will go and bet them. That ML is already very appealing, but if we want bigger odds then  we will see what will be for a KO. So far I haven't seen it yet, it was only ML that is presented. But this is still very far and so we will just have to wait, just like any other boxing match, crypto sports bookies are somewhat slow listing their odds for other betting options.
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The odds so far are:

ML: 1.80 - for Beterbiev, 1.94 for Bivol. And as per poll, our boxing fans here knows their stuff about these fighters and so they lean towards Beterbiev as well.

So yes, it's a even fight for this two Russians, and just like what everyone says, gonna be close and difficult to chose at least for now.

But the fight is still far, and there could be a lot of factors that might swayed us as to who is going to be our bet on this fight.

I'm not seeing a wild swing on the odds though, Beterbiev will be the favorite based on his knockout percentage and Bivol knows that. It might be close though and as we see, for boxing fans, gonna be hard to pick the winner as both as capable to pull, it's just either KO by Beterbiev or the strength of Bivol to carry him all the way to championship rounds and then into the full 12 rounds. And with that, the this might be the closest fight that we can see for this year. We see Ryan being a huge underdog against Haney, and all other fights that we think is close, the odds maker think otherwise. But not in this case, even them knows that it could be as close as a 50/50 match.

Based on the betting odds, yes it's a 50/50 match. I believe we will not have a hard time putting our bet as the odds are very competitive, we can get 1.90 on either boxer, so we just have to determine now on who we will think will win. As for majority of us here, we are thinking that Beterbiev will win because he is the heavy punches, all wins are in KO, who would not bet on that.

I hope the bookies are not mistaken with the betting odds as this fight is obviously for Beterbiev, although both are undefeated, they are champions but it's nice to bet on a fighter that we think could anytime finish his opponent. The only bet I find more appealing is Beterbiev winning via KO, but maybe it could be the same with his current betting odds now.
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The odds so far are:

ML: 1.80 - for Beterbiev, 1.94 for Bivol. And as per poll, our boxing fans here knows their stuff about these fighters and so they lean towards Beterbiev as well.

So yes, it's a even fight for this two Russians, and just like what everyone says, gonna be close and difficult to chose at least for now.

But the fight is still far, and there could be a lot of factors that might swayed us as to who is going to be our bet on this fight.

I'm not seeing a wild swing on the odds though, Beterbiev will be the favorite based on his knockout percentage and Bivol knows that. It might be close though and as we see, for boxing fans, gonna be hard to pick the winner as both as capable to pull, it's just either KO by Beterbiev or the strength of Bivol to carry him all the way to championship rounds and then into the full 12 rounds. And with that, the this might be the closest fight that we can see for this year. We see Ryan being a huge underdog against Haney, and all other fights that we think is close, the odds maker think otherwise. But not in this case, even them knows that it could be as close as a 50/50 match.
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The odds so far are:

ML: 1.80 - for Beterbiev, 1.94 for Bivol. And as per poll, our boxing fans here knows their stuff about these fighters and so they lean towards Beterbiev as well.

So yes, it's a even fight for this two Russians, and just like what everyone says, gonna be close and difficult to chose at least for now.

But the fight is still far, and there could be a lot of factors that might swayed us as to who is going to be our bet on this fight.
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This is the most anticipated fight, and it should happen this year, I'm glad promoters made a move to make it happen, its five months to go before the fight but many will look at this fight was going to be a candidate for fight of the year, last year we had the Crawford - Spence mega fight and it was not even close.

With their good record, power, and ring generalship I don't expect a fight like the Crawford - Spence fight, I expect the fight to be close and full and action, the fight could go either way but if we based it on both fighters last fight I prefer Beterbiev to win the fight by knockout.

It was really anticipated, and many did, it was been a couple of years now since Dmitry Bivol and Artur Beterbiev fought was really anticipated by fans, and because both boxers' camps could not make it happen and because of political overview it is always taken out into consideration, but now that there are sponsors and a ready venue for the two to fight then it is likely a great event

For sure this will likely be not just like an Exhibition match this is a real straight-up fight and whoever loses this one will get the L that is for sure as Bivol and Beterbiev both do not have any losses yet, this is going to be the 1st time anyone of them will get it for the 1st time,

I was trying to find the betting odds of this fight since it's not yet included in the OP but I could not find one.

I landed on this website, https://box.live/boxing-betting/bivol-vs-beterbiev-odds/.. .and it says that the chances of winning is 50/50. This is good, it's a strong competition between these two warriors, but I will vote for Bivol to win as I was more familiar with him since he beaten Canelo which is a strong and a very popular champion.

I am also not expecting that this fight will be a long one, so my vote goes to Bivol  winning a KO.

Actually, it is still too early, to say the least, the odds can still change as the fight is still on June 1, 2024, and a lot can still happen from that long wait, it is a good thing that you already have your choice for me Dmitry Bivol is a output puncher, he is surely fast with his punches and could surely outburst the fight with his fast output, while Artur Beterbiev is a strong puncher, his punch was precise and got the power in them, his opponent is like hit by a truck when they struck them, for me 1 punch for Beterbiev and the fight is over,

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Yes, and we should also look at the age as a deciding factor, we say that Beterbiev is still strong, but boxers are good in their last fight. And if this fight goes distance, he might be affected and he is not used to it. And because of his age, he might tire much earlier.

So there are a lot of potential narratives that can happen as you have said. Might still be hard to see what will happen, and the odds are very close and we might be talking about rematch and what not based on fight 1.

If you are betting on Beterbiev, you believe that he could win via KO, and if in case the fight will go to distance, you'll know that your bet is losing. That's it, think it simply, just trust your fighter and risk your money. He had fought young fighters and defeated them, and the fact that he is the favorite to win here (based on poll), that says a lot about his chances of winning, so we should be confident with that.
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@Baofeng. I very much agree on the no boycott. Mucn of the world might have also forgotten about the war on Ukraine vs. Russia or much of the people have stopped caring. We are very distracted by all these new information being shown to us constantly by the internet.
Yes, I do agree, the war has been forgotten already and the world is back to normal already and so sports shouldn't be affected by what the geo-political events that is going on beyond and behind.

Mauricio Sulaiman also appears to have caring because he is allowing Beterbiev to fight a Russian national hehehehe. Sulaiman had very strong objections against Russia's war and Putin before hehe. Also, on which side is Saudi Arabia? I reckon they denounced Russia's actions against Ukraine. Everyone knows I like conspiracy theories, you know what I am implying with this hehehehee.
I guess it's all about the money, and if it is good for WBC and the Sulaimans, the fight will go and continue regardless of who they support or what is their political believes are. Saudi doesn't care as well, it's sports for them, they have the luxury, rich oil money flowing to boxing and who wouldn't want it? All of them are into it, Arum, Hearn, Sulaiman and every entities in boxing and they will say yes to Saudi Arabia right now as what fight they want to see.

It has always been about money and also maybe making an agreeable decision. When the war in Ukraine was only beginning, making the decision of letting Russian athletes compete was very unpopular. Many people wanted a boycott and this forced sports organizations to ban them. I reckon the only big sports organization that allowed Russian athletes to continue was the UFC under uncle Dana's instructions.
Yes, when money talks everyone listen, even those who have their political beliefs, at some point they have to trade it as boxing organization and boxing in general is business. Specially win the entry of Saudi Arabia right now, no one can deny the fact that they are giving this promoter big money to have fight in their country. So step aside their political beliefs like the WBC and the Sulaimans. Good for Dana and now it make sense as we are back in the normal and Russian players are now allowed in every sports and hopefully the next time, sports is not going to be affected.
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This is a very interesting fight, I don't have any opinion on who will win on this one.  Beterbiev being a heavy puncher and Bivol is a tough opponent and a tactician, can see how to mitigate Beterbiev's explosive power.  If Bivol can stand Beterbiev's punching power, I think he will win this match.

Same here, very tough to choose whom to bet, and this is what makes this fight interesting.

If Bivol's defense could hold up until the final bell then there's a chance that he could pull a win here as Beterbiev is not used on fighting the whole 12 rounds so he might gassed out if that scenario happens.

Good thing that they are bringing this fight to our table while the two are still on their peaks.

Yes, and we should also look at the age as a deciding factor, we say that Beterbiev is still strong, but boxers are good in their last fight. And if this fight goes distance, he might be affected and he is not used to it. And because of his age, he might tire much earlier.

So there are a lot of potential narratives that can happen as you have said. Might still be hard to see what will happen, and the odds are very close and we might be talking about rematch and what not based on fight 1.
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@Baofeng. I very much agree on the no boycott. Mucn of the world might have also forgotten about the war on Ukraine vs. Russia or much of the people have stopped caring. We are very distracted by all these new information being shown to us constantly by the internet.
Yes, I do agree, the war has been forgotten already and the world is back to normal already and so sports shouldn't be affected by what the geo-political events that is going on beyond and behind.

Mauricio Sulaiman also appears to have caring because he is allowing Beterbiev to fight a Russian national hehehehe. Sulaiman had very strong objections against Russia's war and Putin before hehe. Also, on which side is Saudi Arabia? I reckon they denounced Russia's actions against Ukraine. Everyone knows I like conspiracy theories, you know what I am implying with this hehehehee.
I guess it's all about the money, and if it is good for WBC and the Sulaimans, the fight will go and continue regardless of who they support or what is their political believes are. Saudi doesn't care as well, it's sports for them, they have the luxury, rich oil money flowing to boxing and who wouldn't want it? All of them are into it, Arum, Hearn, Sulaiman and every entities in boxing and they will say yes to Saudi Arabia right now as what fight they want to see.

It has always been about money and also maybe making an agreeable decision. When the war in Ukraine was only beginning, making the decision of letting Russian athletes compete was very unpopular. Many people wanted a boycott and this forced sports organizations to ban them. I reckon the only big sports organization that allowed Russian athletes to continue was the UFC under uncle Dana's instructions.
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This is a very interesting fight, I don't have any opinion on who will win on this one.  Beterbiev being a heavy puncher and Bivol is a tough opponent and a tactician, can see how to mitigate Beterbiev's explosive power.  If Bivol can stand Beterbiev's punching power, I think he will win this match.
Both boxers each have good records and both are professional Russian boxers who already have quite lot of titles, Beterbiev is the only boxer with an accumulated knockout win of 100% because all his fights were finished by knockout.
Bivol himself has also fought without defeat, both fighters are undefeated fighters and fighting for the undisputed champion title will definitely change their record of losing for the first time.
I think making Beterbiev the favorite is also worth doing because he has very hard punch and is able to make his opponent fall down and not be able to continue the fight, maybe Bivol will also suffer knockout defeat.

All Arthur needs is just one clip, Bivol will not be able to balance himself the entire round. I don't know how true it was but they once had a sparring according to some boxing news which Bivol also lost. Arthur had been calling Bivol before which was unanswered.

True, this could be a test for Bivol on how tough he is.  As I stated if he can absorb Beterbiev's power punches without any issue then with his style, he can outmaneuver Beterbiev and win. But who knows, I believe both camps will give us a surprise.  This fight is indeed worth watching.
Bivol has good fighting tactics, he can take advantage of all existing situations, but his opponent is Beterbiev, who has hard punch and is always unpredictable.
Seeing how Beterbiev fights is truly amazing because he suddenly hits without stopping.
With the surprise blow given by Beterbiev, I believe that Bivol will definitely come under lot of pressure.
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There will be no boycott here, this fight is going to be held in Saudi Arabia and not US. And with the big money involved around, everyone should really work together, and that should be enough motivation to make this fight as one of the biggest this year that is not a Heavyweight or Welterweight fight.

Politics has to be set aside, this fight is not for the boxers but for the fans to witness a real entertainment, and they are professional, they are paid to do the job.

professional boxers are never boxers who bring politics or war in their country in boxing. professional boxers carry their own names to make money. just like other sportsmen or professional workers in other fields all carry their own names professionally to make money. just to make money. unless you retire from boxing then you can do politics to defend your country just like vitaly klitchko who became a politician and became a mayor in kiev who defended his country in the ukraine vs russia war. bivol and beterbiev are both from russia so there is no political war in this boxing match. only boxing does not exist.
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This is a very interesting fight, I don't have any opinion on who will win on this one.  Beterbiev being a heavy puncher and Bivol is a tough opponent and a tactician, can see how to mitigate Beterbiev's explosive power.  If Bivol can stand Beterbiev's punching power, I think he will win this match.

Same here, very tough to choose whom to bet, and this is what makes this fight interesting.

If Bivol's defense could hold up until the final bell then there's a chance that he could pull a win here as Beterbiev is not used on fighting the whole 12 rounds so he might gassed out if that scenario happens.

Good thing that they are bringing this fight to our table while the two are still on their peaks.



 
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This is a very interesting fight, I don't have any opinion on who will win on this one.  Beterbiev being a heavy puncher and Bivol is a tough opponent and a tactician, can see how to mitigate Beterbiev's explosive power.  If Bivol can stand Beterbiev's punching power, I think he will win this match.

All Arthur needs is just one clip, Bivol will not be able to balance himself the entire round. I don't know how true it was but they once had a sparring according to some boxing news which Bivol also lost. Arthur had been calling Bivol before which was unanswered.

True, this could be a test for Bivol on how tough he is.  As I stated if he can absorb Beterbiev's power punches without any issue then with his style, he can outmaneuver Beterbiev and win. But who knows, I believe both camps will give us a surprise.  This fight is indeed worth watching.



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I think both boxers does not want drama, they just want to fight and declared to be the best in their division. This should be fun, and a lot of money are stakes in this fight, so they can't afford to postpone it worst cancel it. The venue is set, people are expecting it, this should happen.

I'm not discriminating but this is what I like about Russian-based fighters they came to fight they don't want dramas compared to US-based fighters, they don't thrash talks and they behave well in press conferences, maybe because of the language barriers they are not good in English.
Is there a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy just like what happened in the Canelo - Golovkin fight?

If the fight becomes close I believe there should be a rematch, but of course, it depends on what happens in the first fight and the boxing community's reaction and feedback this is one legacy fight and very important for both fighters, one's zero and his title will have to go on that night.

Yes, I would love to see a rematch if this fight is going to be close, and just by looking at the odds, it says 50/50. So even odd makers can't decide who is going to be their favorite and that is good enough that this fight might go to distance because they are even right now as per the odds.

For sure, fans are going to love and will react for a second fight if the fight is like controversial. Like the first Canelo and GGG fight, wherein majority thought that GGG won that fight, but it was a draw from the judges.
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I think both boxers does not want drama, they just want to fight and declared to be the best in their division. This should be fun, and a lot of money are stakes in this fight, so they can't afford to postpone it worst cancel it. The venue is set, people are expecting it, this should happen.

I'm not discriminating but this is what I like about Russian-based fighters they came to fight they don't want dramas compared to US-based fighters, they don't thrash talks and they behave well in press conferences, maybe because of the language barriers they are not good in English.
Is there a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy just like what happened in the Canelo - Golovkin fight?
It could be depending on the outcome of the fight, if it's gonna end up a controversial fight, then most likely the promoters will give them another shot. The fans would love it as it will create more hype and they could easily sell the fight to the fans.

Bivol here is Canelo while Beterbiev is Golovkin since he is the older champion.

If the fight becomes close I believe there should be a rematch, but of course, it depends on what happens in the first fight and the boxing community's reaction and feedback this is one legacy fight and very important for both fighters, one's zero and his title will have to go on that night.


I don't know if it will be a close one since Beterbiev is a KO artist, all his fights are in KO, so either he lose if he could not KO Bivol or this fight will end early and he'll be the winner.

His record here is just too impressive to think he'll loss vs Bivol - https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/646981

All Arthur needs is just one clip, Bivol will not be able to balance himself the entire round. I don't know how true it was but they once had a sparring according to some boxing news which Bivol also lost. Arthur had been calling Bivol before which was unanswered.

If Bivol could even win, it could be a decision. But he will have to risk slipping his shots to make Arthur respect his offense. Making Arthur fear Bivol's counter and volume punch too. Bivol is the underdog, the consolation is that they fight in Saudi and he gets a huge money bag still.
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I think both boxers does not want drama, they just want to fight and declared to be the best in their division. This should be fun, and a lot of money are stakes in this fight, so they can't afford to postpone it worst cancel it. The venue is set, people are expecting it, this should happen.

I'm not discriminating but this is what I like about Russian-based fighters they came to fight they don't want dramas compared to US-based fighters, they don't thrash talks and they behave well in press conferences, maybe because of the language barriers they are not good in English.
Is there a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy just like what happened in the Canelo - Golovkin fight?
It could be depending on the outcome of the fight, if it's gonna end up a controversial fight, then most likely the promoters will give them another shot. The fans would love it as it will create more hype and they could easily sell the fight to the fans.

Bivol here is Canelo while Beterbiev is Golovkin since he is the older champion.

If the fight becomes close I believe there should be a rematch, but of course, it depends on what happens in the first fight and the boxing community's reaction and feedback this is one legacy fight and very important for both fighters, one's zero and his title will have to go on that night.


I don't know if it will be a close one since Beterbiev is a KO artist, all his fights are in KO, so either he lose if he could not KO Bivol or this fight will end early and he'll be the winner.

His record here is just too impressive to think he'll loss vs Bivol - https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/646981
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I think both boxers does not want drama, they just want to fight and declared to be the best in their division. This should be fun, and a lot of money are stakes in this fight, so they can't afford to postpone it worst cancel it. The venue is set, people are expecting it, this should happen.

I'm not discriminating but this is what I like about Russian-based fighters they came to fight they don't want dramas compared to US-based fighters, they don't thrash talks and they behave well in press conferences, maybe because of the language barriers they are not good in English.
Is there a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy just like what happened in the Canelo - Golovkin fight?

If the fight becomes close I believe there should be a rematch, but of course, it depends on what happens in the first fight and the boxing community's reaction and feedback this is one legacy fight and very important for both fighters, one's zero and his title will have to go on that night.
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Politics has to be set aside, this fight is not for the boxers but for the fans to witness a real entertainment, and they are professional, they are paid to do the job.

I thought back then that there would be a ban on Russian fighters during the war, but here we have proven that sports should have nothing to do with politics in war, and peace sports should be allowed to move on, It is good that the fight will be held in Saudi Arabia it's a neutral ground as Beterbiev is currently residing in Montreal making him the favorites by the crowd if the fight is to be held in Las Vegas.


Boxing sports is an entertainment, it's not wise to put some politics on this sport as it's about making money. Banning a country for this sport might signal something bad as it's like bullying a country or might be challenging for a war, they don't want that, they want a peaceful business and wants to run it smoothly.

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I hope there will be no delay in the fight just like what happened to the Fury - Usyk fight, Beterbiev has a history of delays it happened in his bout against Callum Smith because of his dental surgery, I hope none of this will happen here and the June 1 schedule match will happen.

I think both boxers does not want drama, they just want to fight and declared to be the best in their division. This should be fun, and a lot of money are stakes in this fight, so they can't afford to postpone it worst cancel it. The venue is set, people are expecting it, this should happen.
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I hope there will be no delay in the fight just like what happened to the Fury - Usyk fight, Beterbiev has a history of delays it happened in his bout against Callum Smith because of his dental surgery, I hope none of this will happen here and the June 1 schedule match will happen.

That's only the danger though, as we have seen in the Fury - Usyk fight. There are so many factors that we can't anticipated, like a accident in sparring or suddenly the fighter fell ill. These two though are tough individual so I don't think they will want to delay this fight.

That's true we have no control over the situation and because of their passion during their training they get into injury, so I will not be surprised if anyone suffers an injury but I hope there will be none and the fight will push on the given date but if ever there is a delay because of injury from anyone of them, they will all agree that they will not look for other fights but will wait for the other to heal or get better, so the fight will happen.

I have Beterbiev winning the fight by decision or knockout, I like pressure fighters because they love to engage but it goes down to who can take the punch from the other, between the two Beterbiev is the heavy puncher based on what we've seen in all his fights
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Politics has to be set aside, this fight is not for the boxers but for the fans to witness a real entertainment, and they are professional, they are paid to do the job.

I thought back then that there would be a ban on Russian fighters during the war, but here we have proven that sports should have nothing to do with politics in war, and peace sports should be allowed to move on, It is good that the fight will be held in Saudi Arabia it's a neutral ground as Beterbiev is currently residing in Montreal making him the favorites by the crowd if the fight is to be held in Las Vegas.

Perhaps it was just the initial reaction of the world, so including Sports like boxing who doesn't support what the Russian did on attacking Ukraine. But just like the pandemic, this war have soften some and their stance back to normal that the fight or any boxer should continue regardless if they are Russians or not.

I hope there will be no delay in the fight just like what happened to the Fury - Usyk fight, Beterbiev has a history of delays it happened in his bout against Callum Smith because of his dental surgery, I hope none of this will happen here and the June 1 schedule match will happen.

That's only the danger though, as we have seen in the Fury - Usyk fight. There are so many factors that we can't anticipated, like a accident in sparring or suddenly the fighter fell ill. These two though are tough individual so I don't think they will want to delay this fight.
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