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Topic: [Boxing]: Bivol vs Beterbiev rematch Feb 22 - page 3. (Read 685 times)

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December 08, 2024, 08:39:59 AM
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I see a different result on this rematch. With Bivol being the younger fighter, he will have a grasp on how to beat Beterbiev, Turki believes that Bivol won the fight, so this is a match that he needs to redeem or prove that he is a better fighter. Let's admit it, Beterbiev is not getting younger; one of his fights will eventually show his age, and this next fight could possibly be the fight that will show it.








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December 08, 2024, 06:42:05 AM
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The rematch would be in favor of Bivol somehow. Beterbiev would be 40 by then. Just like in their first match, many would say age is a huge factor. Beterbiev might prove them wrong once more. This man is terrific. He looks sturdy and solid despite the age.

Odds now favor Beterbiev. But let's see how Bivol will do in the rematch, again his volume in the first 6 rounds as outstanding. Maybe he will just have to sustained it throughout so that he can outscored Beterbiev this time.

Odds in this rematch favor Beterbiev only because of the result of their first fight. It was the other way around in their first match. The stats somehow favored Bivol and so he turned out the favorite. Things have changed now. It was clear Beterbiev could actually fight toe to toe against Bivol. It was clear the much older man can actually compete with the younger opponent. Bivol had a smaller gas tank compared to his 39-year old opponent.

But, yeah, if Bivol sustained his performance in the opening rounds, that fight was his.
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December 08, 2024, 02:48:25 AM
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Good luck to this bet of yours on Bivol hehehe. However, I am very much afraid that Beterbiev has the tactic to win against Bivol. This is to always be near Bivol and do not give Bivol the proper distancing where he can begun an attack. This type of pressure from Beterbiev is certainly very difficult to defend as everyone has already witnessed on their fight before.

But if Bivol has watched the movie Rocky 3, he might learn something from this where he was trained by a new trainer who was very much given Rocky a similar style with Muhammad Ali. If Bivol will have this type of footwork, he might win hehehehe.

Both fighters will make adjustments for the rematch, even though Beterbiev won the first fight. It was close, and Bivol could have taken the victory. So, I expect we’ll see some strategic changes this time around.

I still believe this fight will go to a decision because both fighters are incredibly durable. This might be the toughest fight of Beterbiev’s career, as all his previous wins were by KO before the first fight. I thought Bivol had the edge to win, but it didn’t turn out that way, so the rematch should be an interesting battle.
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December 08, 2024, 01:35:10 AM
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.

Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes.
 

Good luck to this bet of yours on Bivol hehehe. However, I am very much afraid that Beterbiev has the tactic to win against Bivol. This is to always be near Bivol and do not give Bivol the proper distancing where he can begun an attack. This type of pressure from Beterbiev is certainly very difficult to defend as everyone has already witnessed on their fight before.

But if Bivol has watched the movie Rocky 3, he might learn something from this where he was trained by a new trainer who was very much given Rocky a similar style with Muhammad Ali. If Bivol will have this type of footwork, he might win hehehehe.
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December 07, 2024, 08:53:52 PM
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It's official, we will see the rematch between Bivol and Beterbiev next year in February, and we all know that during their first fight, it was a big controversial as Artur Beterbiev def. Dmitry Bivol via majority decision (114-114, 115-113, 116-112). At least personally for me, I saw it as a draw, as Bivol take the early charge but Beterbiev finishes strong. And so there were talks of a rematch and finally we will see it.
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
After that controversial win coming from Beterbiev, I guess we already knew that a rematch is indeed needed, and here it is. Smiley
Like you, I also saw it as a draw or if there would be a winner, it would be Bivol.

The undercard is also stacked up on this fight. We see Dubois defending his belt, Shakur again fighting some unknown guy, Madrimov getting a revenge win after a loss against Crawford, Zhang continuing his streak after winning against Wilder and Smith coming back yet again.

On Razed, Bivol had the higher odds. On their first fight, it's the opposite. Maybe the win on Beterbiev is the reason why many are betting on him yet again. I'll go on Bivol on this one, or maybe a draw? Cheesy Knockout incoming? Cheesy
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December 07, 2024, 07:52:37 PM
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It's the same as the first fight, initially Beterbiev was the favorite, but when the fight was postponed because of Beterbiev suffering a injury, the odds shift to Bivol. However, we all know that Beterbiev won that fight, although a bit controversial, but a win is win.

And HE Turki promised a rematch and this is it. He loves this two fighters that's why there are no problems with the negotiations and it could be that the paycheck could be higher that the first fight. But nevertheless, I still no difference as I go with Beterbiev to win as this guy even at his age is still very strong.
Yes, winning is winning even though some people don't consider it win because both of them look even, even Bivol seems to be ahead in terms of points but the referee gave decision that was not like the assessment of the fans who watched the fight, maybe in the fight later Bivol can take revenge and really show an absolute victory that everyone recognizes.
I tend to try to favor Bivol even though Beterbiev is the favorite who is still considered capable of defeating Bivol, we see how the fight is resolved, what is clear is that Bivol will not repeat the same mistake and he will definitely try to get what should be his.
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December 07, 2024, 06:34:15 PM
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Beterbiev is the leading on this match I guess, this aspiring Bivol should strengthen his defense against Beterbiev because this guys was too tough and powerful. Based on his track record this man was really showing greater advantage, despite of their age gap though Bivol is younger than him that doesn't change the fact that more people and gamblers will pick Beterbiev based on odds.
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December 07, 2024, 06:20:44 PM
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Madrimov vs Vergil Ortiz could be a separate fight itself as this is going to be a war for sure.

We have seen Madrimov giving Bud Crawford his biggest test at 154 lbs and there are moments that Crawford was hit and I thought that he will go down. On the other hand, Ortiz is also another hard hitting and there are a lot of hype on him before. Although he had to stop because of illness and injuries, but it seems that he was able to get over that hump and back as another boxer that has a potential to be one of the best at 147-154 lbs.
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December 07, 2024, 03:36:28 PM
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

I will be betting on Beterbiev in their rematch because I believe Arthur will make some adjustments, such as starting strong, unlike in the first fight where he was slow at the beginning. Although this will be another close match, I foresee the outcome remaining the same.

He is known to be a slow started though in his career, just like Canelo. That's why he might have lost the first 6 rounds to Bivol. And as we have seen that Bivol hands are quick in that first half because he hasn't taken any damage yet. But when Beterbiev started to make the adjustment midway on the fight and touching and hurting Bivol as some point, Bivol punch output has decline.

Beterbiev though might start like big or strong and not let Bivol take the usual volume punching here. If he does, then maybe we might see him getting a knockout. But Bivol has a solid chin as well and strong. But it's hard not to see Beterbiev getting a knockout if he just started throwing big bombs in the first couple of rounds and hit it's target and then later soften Bivol and go for the kill.
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December 07, 2024, 07:10:38 AM
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.

Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes.

I won't go as far as to say it was a robbery. It was a close fight. Victory could be given to either of them. Both Beterbiev and Bivol deserved to win. Yeah, it seems Bivol was the one who threw more combinations, but it was Beterbiev who put the pressure all throughout the fight. It was Bivol who was more athletic but it was Beterbiev who was more composed. In a way, Beterbiev looked more the boss than Bivol. But, again, the winner could have been either of them.

That's what I meant, it can go either way, but unfortunately, the judges score it to Beterbiev. Bivol started hot in this fight and I think he did enough to win even if he losses the last 3 rounds to Beterbiev.

The rematch would be in favor of Bivol somehow. Beterbiev would be 40 by then. Just like in their first match, many would say age is a huge factor. Beterbiev might prove them wrong once more. This man is terrific. He looks sturdy and solid despite the age.

Odds now favor Beterbiev. But let's see how Bivol will do in the rematch, again his volume in the first 6 rounds as outstanding. Maybe he will just have to sustained it throughout so that he can outscored Beterbiev this time.
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December 06, 2024, 04:53:28 AM
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I will bet on Bivol for this match, because he is quite suitable for this fight and so far he has kept his physical condition healthy. Because he is getting experienced enough to punch this time, he has had good performances in past matches.
 In this match he will be ahead in the first round and will never give a chance to the opposing player in the second round. His style of play and age are completely included in him, Bivol is much stronger and more aggressive than the opposing player so I feel the most happy to bet on him in this match.
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December 06, 2024, 04:30:44 AM
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Last time, the fight was very close, and some people weren’t convinced that Beterbiev deserved the win. It’s great to see that Bivol’s camp didn’t throw any negativity about the result, respect to them for that. And kudos to Beterbiev for agreeing to the rematch. Now, Bivol has a shot at redemption. If he wins this one, we could be looking at the biggest tie-breaker in a trilogy fight.

What’s even better is how quickly they made this rematch happen, no long delays. We’re already set to see it in the first quarter of next year! I also like how the bookies have shown respect to Bivol as even though he lost the first fight, the odds show he’s only a slight underdog.
They've shown both respect, both are Russians and so it makes that there are no trash talking after the fight. And during post fight interview,

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During his post-fight press conference in Saudi Arabia, Beterbiev (21-0, 20 KOs) was not satisfied following the first decision win of his career against Bivol (23-1, 12 KOs).

“He did a good job,” said Beterbiev. “I don't know how he measured his work as good or not, but I'm not a bad boxer. I didn't do bad work. I only did some parts of what I prepared for and not all of the work. I don't why.

https://www.boxingscene.com/glass-half-empty-artur-beterbiev-following-dmitry-bivol-win-i-think-im-great-boxer--186429

No highway robbery but it was very close, if not of Bivol going in the championship rounds, I think Bivol could have won. But he got the last 3 rounds and that is enough for him to secure a win although his coach also thinks that Bivol could have done better in this fight.
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December 06, 2024, 03:27:18 AM
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
In this rematch Beterbiev is the favorite but if you look at the odds given by the bookies, the difference in odd numbers for both is not that big and maybe there will be change in circumstances with victory that can be obtained by Bivol.
Learning from the previous fight which stated Beterbiev won by decision and that was his first victory by decision because previously all fights were always won by KO, clearly Bivol is not an easy opponent and if Bivol is more careful and can give surprise then he can have victory even with decision also considering some of Bivol hard punches in the previous meeting were not able to make Beterbiev fall.

It's the same as the first fight, initially Beterbiev was the favorite, but when the fight was postponed because of Beterbiev suffering a injury, the odds shift to Bivol. However, we all know that Beterbiev won that fight, although a bit controversial, but a win is win.

And HE Turki promised a rematch and this is it. He loves this two fighters that's why there are no problems with the negotiations and it could be that the paycheck could be higher that the first fight. But nevertheless, I still no difference as I go with Beterbiev to win as this guy even at his age is still very strong.
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December 06, 2024, 01:34:05 AM
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In the first fight, Bivol took more damage. As good as he is defensively, he is not capable of avoiding Beterbiev’s power for a full 12 rounds. Beterbiev was able to finish much stronger, while Bivol looked depleted, which makes me believe that Beterbiev is capable of doing more to improve on his performance. Regardless of the outcome, it is going to be another classic battle between these highly skilled competitors.
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December 06, 2024, 12:50:44 AM
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?
In this rematch Beterbiev is the favorite but if you look at the odds given by the bookies, the difference in odd numbers for both is not that big and maybe there will be change in circumstances with victory that can be obtained by Bivol.
Learning from the previous fight which stated Beterbiev won by decision and that was his first victory by decision because previously all fights were always won by KO, clearly Bivol is not an easy opponent and if Bivol is more careful and can give surprise then he can have victory even with decision also considering some of Bivol hard punches in the previous meeting were not able to make Beterbiev fall.
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December 05, 2024, 11:21:18 PM
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Last time, the fight was very close, and some people weren’t convinced that Beterbiev deserved the win. It’s great to see that Bivol’s camp didn’t throw any negativity about the result, respect to them for that. And kudos to Beterbiev for agreeing to the rematch. Now, Bivol has a shot at redemption. If he wins this one, we could be looking at the biggest tie-breaker in a trilogy fight.

What’s even better is how quickly they made this rematch happen, no long delays. We’re already set to see it in the first quarter of next year! I also like how the bookies have shown respect to Bivol as even though he lost the first fight, the odds show he’s only a slight underdog.
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December 05, 2024, 09:51:00 PM
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What are your thoughts on this rematch? Could Bivol avenge his defeat?

I will be betting on Beterbiev in their rematch because I believe Arthur will make some adjustments, such as starting strong, unlike in the first fight where he was slow at the beginning. Although this will be another close match, I foresee the outcome remaining the same.

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December 05, 2024, 09:21:03 PM
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this rematch is a battle of proof whether bivol can beat beterbiev or not, but from what I've seen, beterbiev can still beat bivol because from the beginning he was also dissatisfied with the results of his fight and it seems that he has prepared better in the next fight how he can beat bivol again. And also even though bivol is younger and his stamina is quite good than beterbiev and gets the favor of many people, but beterbiev has experience which he can use to win the fight later, so I will go with beterbiev even though the chances of winning are not so high.
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December 05, 2024, 09:16:49 PM
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I'll go with Bivol, I have bet on him the last time, and I thought he won that fight as the numbers don't lie. But as what we said, boxers shouldn't let the fight go to the judges hand and so in this case, it's true as I think that Bivol was robbed.

Nevertheless, he has a second chance, and I do think that this time he will do enough to win and will continue to throw volume punches. I remember there were one round wherein he throws like 10-12 combos and some of them hit Beterbiev and put him on the ropes.

I won't go as far as to say it was a robbery. It was a close fight. Victory could be given to either of them. Both Beterbiev and Bivol deserved to win. Yeah, it seems Bivol was the one who threw more combinations, but it was Beterbiev who put the pressure all throughout the fight. It was Bivol who was more athletic but it was Beterbiev who was more composed. In a way, Beterbiev looked more the boss than Bivol. But, again, the winner could have been either of them.

The rematch would be in favor of Bivol somehow. Beterbiev would be 40 by then. Just like in their first match, many would say age is a huge factor. Beterbiev might prove them wrong once more. This man is terrific. He looks sturdy and solid despite the age.
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December 05, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
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Here are the records/stats of Dmitrii Bivol and Artur Beterbiev.
Exciting match! I will really place a bet here and I am more convinced of Artur Beterbiev, the undefeated. But still, I am worried about Dmitrii Bivol as he got more matches and height advantage (extremely small), age also is not that really high gap.

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