[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga - September 14 - page 2.

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Quote from: aioc on September 18, 2024, 05:59:35 AM

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Canelo might have thought that he already cemented his legacy in boxing. And that's why he is just fighting nobodies, and then just collect paycheck after paycheck until he retires. However, I still thinking that the machismo inside of Canelo will dictate to him to fight Benavidez or Bivol before the end of his career. Because right now at 168 lbs, he has no one to fight for.

Although there were talks about him and Crawford to fight, but it was shot down by Turki himself because he doesn't like Canelo. And looking at the current fighters, it was only Christian Mbilli that stands out.

Its still a legacy if we talk about legacy; he has a place in the Hall Of Fame but expect in the future about not fighting fighters who deserve to fight him, but its not yet over promoters and boxers can change their mind for money and for the fans they just need to talk or have someoen with genuine interest in boxing to mediate.

For sure, he will be place on the HOF once he retired from boxing, if we talk about his legacy. However, we can't blame him for fighting Bivol again, as he suffered a embarrassing lost. Although a rematch with Bivol right after is good and it will be at 168 lbs. But not sure why Canelo didn't pursue it, that's why he is being criticized by many boxing fans and commentators although he said that he doesn't care about what they say.

Quote from: aioc on September 18, 2024, 05:59:35 AM

So unless Canelo retires everything is not yet final in his career its still a continuing saga for Canelo to establish his greatness and of course to accumulate more money.

With this win? I don't think that he will retire, but we don't know who Canelo is going to fight next as others have said, he pretty much clean up the division and there's nothing to proved unless his next fight is either Bivol or Benavidez.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 18, 2024, 05:43:49 AM

At the end of the day, it's all about the business of making money and so Canelo will also do the same, just like Floyd Mayweather dictating all the terms of the fight, including the split and the PPV buys and the price of the tickets. Canelo could talk about all about his legacy, as how many champions he fought during his career, how he became a unified Super middle weight champion, defended it, was able to defend it, accused of Peds, was able to get away from it. Grin

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I scored him as one of the two greatest Mexican boxers; the other one for me, of course, is Chavez Sr. but compared to Canelo he is making a lot of money and he gives all the terms when he fought, something no other Mexican boxers has done, Canelo is one example of being a good businessman in boxing; he sets the precedent and in the future we will see boxers who wants to take control of their purse and wants terms to be implemented.

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So I guess he will still continue to face just B-side fighter until he retires, or maybe Bivol or Benavidez, but we will see. As for his legacy, only time can tell whether he is one of the best at 168 lbs or not.

He will eventually run out of B fighters and may have to decide to go fighting the likes of Bivol, Benavidez and Crawford so we will see in the coming months the course of his decision

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2024, 05:38:31 AM

Canelo might have thought that he already cemented his legacy in boxing. And that's why he is just fighting nobodies, and then just collect paycheck after paycheck until he retires. However, I still thinking that the machismo inside of Canelo will dictate to him to fight Benavidez or Bivol before the end of his career. Because right now at 168 lbs, he has no one to fight for.

Although there were talks about him and Crawford to fight, but it was shot down by Turki himself because he doesn't like Canelo. And looking at the current fighters, it was only Christian Mbilli that stands out.

Its still a legacy if we talk about legacy; he has a place in the Hall Of Fame but expect in the future about not fighting fighters who deserve to fight him, but its not yet over promoters and boxers can change their mind for money and for the fans they just need to talk or have someoen with genuine interest in boxing to mediate.

So unless Canelo retires everything is not yet final in his career its still a continuing saga for Canelo to establish his greatness and of course to accumulate more money.

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Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

Bivol is about to fight Beterbiev. Bivol is now running divorce process and his wife is raging in social media, so it going to be tough, painful and long for him. With all that, it might be that Bivol will be available for a next fight in half a year or a year. Would Canelo wait for so long for a rematch? Or would rather get someone ranked top#11-20 to fight against in his division? Cheesy

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Definitely he is going against someone who he will definitely beat easily by points.

At the end of the day, it's all about the business of making money and so Canelo will also do the same, just like Floyd Mayweather dictating all the terms of the fight, including the split and the PPV buys and the price of the tickets. Canelo could talk about all about his legacy, as how many champions he fought during his career, how he became a unified Super middle weight champion, defended it, was able to defend it, accused of Peds, was able to get away from it. Grin

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So I guess he will still continue to face just B-side fighter until he retires, or maybe Bivol or Benavidez, but we will see. As for his legacy, only time can tell whether he is one of the best at 168 lbs or not.

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Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

Bivol is about to fight Beterbiev. Bivol is now running divorce process and his wife is raging in social media, so it going to be tough, painful and long for him. With all that, it might be that Bivol will be available for a next fight in half a year or a year. Would Canelo wait for so long for a rematch? Or would rather get someone ranked top#11-20 to fight against in his division? Cheesy

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Definitely he is going against someone who he will definitely beat easily by points.

Canelo might have thought that he already cemented his legacy in boxing. And that's why he is just fighting nobodies, and then just collect paycheck after paycheck until he retires. However, I still thinking that the machismo inside of Canelo will dictate to him to fight Benavidez or Bivol before the end of his career. Because right now at 168 lbs, he has no one to fight for.

Although there were talks about him and Crawford to fight, but it was shot down by Turki himself because he doesn't like Canelo. And looking at the current fighters, it was only Christian Mbilli that stands out.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 18, 2024, 01:32:44 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 17, 2024, 10:12:37 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 16, 2024, 02:20:56 AM

Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

Bivol is about to fight Beterbiev. Bivol is now running divorce process and his wife is raging in social media, so it going to be tough, painful and long for him. With all that, it might be that Bivol will be available for a next fight in half a year or a year. Would Canelo wait for so long for a rematch? Or would rather get someone ranked top#11-20 to fight against in his division? Cheesy

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Definitely he is going against someone who he will definitely beat easily by points.

I haven't heard about Bivol's ugly divorce, so not sure if this will affect him mentally against Beterbiev as sometimes boxers will have to lose money here in a divorce that could add a mental strain on them.

Canelo have waiting for so long to rematch Bivol though, it's been 2 years and going 3 next year in May. So that is a long time for someone the caliber of Canelo for get a rematch. So the question is what keeps him waiting? Did he want Bivol to lose against Beterbiev before fighting him? Or he wants Bivol to be soften up and not be the same version of Bivol that fought him?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 17, 2024, 10:12:37 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 16, 2024, 02:20:56 AM

Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

Bivol is about to fight Beterbiev. Bivol is now running divorce process and his wife is raging in social media, so it going to be tough, painful and long for him. With all that, it might be that Bivol will be available for a next fight in half a year or a year. Would Canelo wait for so long for a rematch? Or would rather get someone ranked top#11-20 to fight against in his division? Cheesy

Canelo talked so much about his legacy, but keep on collecting above average quality skulls Cheesy

Definitely he is going against someone who he will definitely beat easily by points.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 17, 2024, 10:12:37 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 16, 2024, 02:20:56 AM

Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

It's because he is carefully selecting his opponents, and if we look at his fight after that win against GGG:

1. John Ryder
2. Jermell Charlo - have to go up two weight class to fight him
3. Jaime Munguia - inexperience fighter
4. Edgar Berlanga - same as number 3

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Is Canelo Alvarez‘s charisma on the decline? That’s the first question that will pop up in your head when you look at the number of unsold tickets for the Edgar Berlanga event. The event didn’t turn out to be a complete sellout, unlike the event in the same neighborhood.

Alvarez vs. Berlanga was touted to be selling out every ticket put on sale, with the cheapest made available at $300. With the Mexico vs. Puerto Rico rivalry angle and the occasion of Mexican Independence Day, it made sure the crowd flocked to the T-Mobile Arena on September 14. However, in the end, few tickets remained unsold.

BoxingTickets, a ticket sales analysis portal, turned to its X handle and disclosed the ticket numbers to the fans. The post revealed that the event had failed to sell 451 tickets, the face value for which amounted to a total of $466K of gate revenue. The official live gate of the event is not available yet, but it will surely make rounds after the conclusion of the event.

Read in full https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-canelo-alvarez-vs-edgar-berlanga-reports-five-hundred-thousands-worth-of-unsold-tickets-hours-before-main-event/

I would say that he is a decline, but it's not obvious as he is fighting those boxers that is not a threat to him. And he wasn't able to score a knockout win for a long time now. There are even reports that his fight in Mexico with John Ryder, many fans are disappointed on Canelo because he just won with a UD against a fighter that is supposedly easy for him and he could have scored a knockout.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 16, 2024, 02:20:56 AM

Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

Canelo has become very much boring similar to much of the boxers after they have become older. I reckon there are 2 fighters who has created excitement in their older age, this is Floyd Mayweather and the Philipine Pacman.

You are correct, Canelo should stop avoiding David Benavidez heheheh. This is a very big risk, however. Another boxer who wants to fight him in super middleweight division is also Bivol but Canelo is also scared of this because very risky heheheeh.

Is Canelo Alvarez‘s charisma on the decline? That’s the first question that will pop up in your head when you look at the number of unsold tickets for the Edgar Berlanga event. The event didn’t turn out to be a complete sellout, unlike the event in the same neighborhood.

Alvarez vs. Berlanga was touted to be selling out every ticket put on sale, with the cheapest made available at $300. With the Mexico vs. Puerto Rico rivalry angle and the occasion of Mexican Independence Day, it made sure the crowd flocked to the T-Mobile Arena on September 14. However, in the end, few tickets remained unsold.

BoxingTickets, a ticket sales analysis portal, turned to its X handle and disclosed the ticket numbers to the fans. The post revealed that the event had failed to sell 451 tickets, the face value for which amounted to a total of $466K of gate revenue. The official live gate of the event is not available yet, but it will surely make rounds after the conclusion of the event.

Read in full https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-canelo-alvarez-vs-edgar-berlanga-reports-five-hundred-thousands-worth-of-unsold-tickets-hours-before-main-event/

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Both of them definitely wanted to win by KO but nothing happened in that match, I saw Berlanga who had fallen but he was still able to express that he still had high spirits by fighting both of his hands and I had time to laugh seeing this. Although Berlanga failed to win the match but I salute him because when the final bell rang he shouted as if he was satisfied with the match even though the result was a loss.

Well, he knew it already as soon as he got knocked down in the 3rd round that he will loss in this fight. Nevertheless, he showed some fighting spirit all throughout the fight and like what you said, he's satisfied with it. I mean you're up against one of the best fighters we currently have and him fighting Canelo is like a dream come true. A loss doens't matter to him anymore. Just fighting with him is a huge honor for him already. Berlanga will bounce back in his future fights that's for sure. Huge respect for both fighters like what they shown after the fight.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 16, 2024, 08:52:12 PM

Cancelo who was indeed superior in experience made it difficult for Berlanga to be able to hit his KO. But I think in this match Berlanga gained additional experience for himself. And honestly I previously thought that Berlanga could beat Cancelo but indeed experience cannot lie.

Canelo is superior but he's dodging fighters. He doesn't want to fight Crawford, and he doesn't want to fight Benavidez as well. He doesn't want to fight an underrated fighter as well that's why he got stripped from his IBF title. He's an amazing fighter, but if he's that amazing, he must fight every fighter that's on his way.

Anyway, it's been 3-4 days since the fight is over. Isn't it time to lock the thread OP? You can just open it if you want though.

I need to see Canelo vs Crawford. Power vs power and both still not past the prime of theor careers. I get why he wouldn't want to get in front of him but that's the fight everyone wants to see. Boxing needs these types of fights to go off to keep relevent. MMA has taking a ton of the viewers into another sport due to a lack of good matchups. Still hoping that o e gets done.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 16, 2024, 08:52:12 PM

Both of them definitely wanted to win by KO but nothing happened in that match, I saw Berlanga who had fallen but he was still able to express that he still had high spirits by fighting both of his hands and I had time to laugh seeing this. Although Berlanga failed to win the match but I salute him because when the final bell rang he shouted as if he was satisfied with the match even though the result was a loss.

Well, he knew it already as soon as he got knocked down in the 3rd round that he will loss in this fight. Nevertheless, he showed some fighting spirit all throughout the fight and like what you said, he's satisfied with it. I mean you're up against one of the best fighters we currently have and him fighting Canelo is like a dream come true. A loss doens't matter to him anymore. Just fighting with him is a huge honor for him already. Berlanga will bounce back in his future fights that's for sure. Huge respect for both fighters like what they shown after the fight.

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 16, 2024, 08:52:12 PM

Cancelo who was indeed superior in experience made it difficult for Berlanga to be able to hit his KO. But I think in this match Berlanga gained additional experience for himself. And honestly I previously thought that Berlanga could beat Cancelo but indeed experience cannot lie.

Canelo is superior but he's dodging fighters. He doesn't want to fight Crawford, and he doesn't want to fight Benavidez as well. He doesn't want to fight an underrated fighter as well that's why he got stripped from his IBF title. He's an amazing fighter, but if he's that amazing, he must fight every fighter that's on his way.

Anyway, it's been 3-4 days since the fight is over. Isn't it time to lock the thread OP? You can just open it if you want though.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 16, 2024, 08:52:12 PM

Both of them definitely wanted to win by KO but nothing happened in that match, I saw Berlanga who had fallen but he was still able to express that he still had high spirits by fighting both of his hands and I had time to laugh seeing this. Although Berlanga failed to win the match but I salute him because when the final bell rang he shouted as if he was satisfied with the match even though the result was a loss.
Cancelo who was indeed superior in experience made it difficult for Berlanga to be able to hit his KO. But I think in this match Berlanga gained additional experience for himself. And honestly I previously thought that Berlanga could beat Cancelo but indeed experience cannot lie.

The boxer mostly like to win the game by K.O,because the game was unpredictable one by the points.Sometimes the match fixing will use the points game only to manipulate the results.But the K.O games are not challenging one in nature.Edgar will surely win the game against the Canelo,because the arm power of the Edgar was most likely higher than the Canelo.The K.O is mostly based on the arm power of the players,only the less arm power players uses the point strategy to make the win by points.The game win by points by the boxer is unstable one,anything happen at the end of the game time.

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I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

Turki getting involved would greatly benefit fans and the sport because he is trying to reduce the price of PPVs. Canelo’s most recent fights have been $90, which is pure greediness. If they make the fight and they can get the cost down to $20, like Aj vs. Dubois, they can possibly get close to a million buys. I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it is being too optimistic to believe that fighters and promoters will actually do something for the greater benefit so I will not get my hopes up.

I was surprised that it was price at $90.00, I think that's expensive and with so many streamers offering it for free, I wouldn't be surprised that the numbers of PPV is going to continue to drop, unless Canelo is going to fight Bivol or Benavidez next.

Going back to the fight, I think almost everyone here (including myself), has a good bet on Canelo to win by decision. I already had this in mind, the over 8.5 rounds and then Canelo by decision win.

So congrats to those who ride on that bet as we have a good discussion as to why the fight will go to distance.

There’s a price, but I don’t think there’s any data yet on how much they made from PPV for that fight.
But according to the article below, Canelo’s expected to make around $35 million from the fight, which seems pretty huge. Could that really be true?

https://www.thesportster.com/canelo-vs-berlanga-purses-how-much-each-fighter-will-earn/

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Alvarez expected to earn $35 million, while Berlanga may earn $1-3 million, in the high-stakes matchup.

So even if the PPV revenue is not so much, Canelo’s still making a ton if that number’s legit.

It's possible that Canelo could earn that much in this fight, as he is the A-side and I wouldn't be surprised that this could be a 80-20 purse split in his favor. But I think it is still very small amount for him, but obviously he is facing a not known fighter in Berlanga, although he could have a lot of followers from Puerto Rican.

But then again, Berlanga's biggest paycheck as of today, but I don't know if he can get that much in his next fight unless it will be against the same young fighter that Canelo has beaten as well in Munguia. This two has been into a beef in the last couple of years and it might be another Mexico vs Puerto Rico storyboard but this time, both are very young and I'm expecting a lot of fire works in the face off alone.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 16, 2024, 08:52:12 PM

Both of them definitely wanted to win by KO but nothing happened in that match, I saw Berlanga who had fallen but he was still able to express that he still had high spirits by fighting both of his hands and I had time to laugh seeing this. Although Berlanga failed to win the match but I salute him because when the final bell rang he shouted as if he was satisfied with the match even though the result was a loss.
Cancelo who was indeed superior in experience made it difficult for Berlanga to be able to hit his KO. But I think in this match Berlanga gained additional experience for himself. And honestly I previously thought that Berlanga could beat Cancelo but indeed experience cannot lie.

And that is what we are saying all along, the experience of Canelo will take over this fight, and as we can see, that counter left hook, although it might not have enough power, but it has some speed that Berlanga didn't anticipated and so when he was caught, he was knockdown and then as if he was very mad about it and try to get up and go and fight.

But Canelo is not going to let this fight slip away from him, he wanted to show that he still has that one great fight in him and that he can still pull the trigger or win by knockout or total domination of 12 rounds. It's just a question whether Berlanga can last 12 and that enough for him, at least he got the experience needed to make him a great boxer and he admit that Canelo punches hard.

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Not quite easy actually as Berlanga was actually schooled all throughout the fight and was even knocked down as early as the third round. I was actually worried I'd lost my Over 9.5 bet when Berlanga was downed with an easy short left hook. Surely, you were also at the edge of your seat until the final bell was rung.

I guess it was a two-way scenario. Canelo was obviously in the decline and Berlanga was too conscious of his legendary opponent that he was always defensive from round 1 until the end.

People would quit saying Canelo is cherry-picking when he faces Bivol next especially if Bivol prevails over Beterbiev.

Yeah, i'm on the edge on my seat especially on round three, cheering that Berlanga would stand and finish the fight which fortunately he did hehe.

That was a one-sided affair but kudos to Edgar Berlanga for surviving the fight which most of the boxing fans thought that hw would not last six rounds.

My gut tells me that Canelo will face Crawford next and not Bivol or Benavidez as these are fights that are difficult to win hehe.

When I saw Berlanga on the canvas and his immediate reaction, I assumed he wasn't really dizzy. He was floored simply because of the impact of that hook. He was basically good, although I was worried about Canelo's strong urge to go for the kill after that. Great job indeed for Berlanga for surviving not just round three but the entire 12 rounds.

Canelo-Crawford is a dream match. How I wish we could see that happen before their careers' sunset. That would easily be the fight of the decade.

Canelo was asked about him and Crawford fighting in the post fight interview and he says "no comment". For me it means that this fight is not going to happen because Crawford is a ambassador of HE Turki Alalshikh. And as you can see they are sitting besides each other and even the TV crew mistakenly call Crawford Kendrick Lamar, Lol. And with Alalshikh criticizing Canelo publicly in social media about his choice of opponents and then Canelo replying with subtle attacks, I don't think that the Saudi is willing to give Canelo the money that he wanted, as it was reported that he is asking a guarantee of $100 million against Crawford. So let's see what's next for Canelo at 168 lbs, he might have been watching the fight at 175 lbs, with Bivol and Beterbiev and then Benavidez wanting to challenge the winner of that fight.

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Both of them definitely wanted to win by KO but nothing happened in that match, I saw Berlanga who had fallen but he was still able to express that he still had high spirits by fighting both of his hands and I had time to laugh seeing this. Although Berlanga failed to win the match but I salute him because when the final bell rang he shouted as if he was satisfied with the match even though the result was a loss.
Cancelo who was indeed superior in experience made it difficult for Berlanga to be able to hit his KO. But I think in this match Berlanga gained additional experience for himself. And honestly I previously thought that Berlanga could beat Cancelo but indeed experience cannot lie.

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Not quite easy actually as Berlanga was actually schooled all throughout the fight and was even knocked down as early as the third round. I was actually worried I'd lost my Over 9.5 bet when Berlanga was downed with an easy short left hook. Surely, you were also at the edge of your seat until the final bell was rung.

I guess it was a two-way scenario. Canelo was obviously in the decline and Berlanga was too conscious of his legendary opponent that he was always defensive from round 1 until the end.

People would quit saying Canelo is cherry-picking when he faces Bivol next especially if Bivol prevails over Beterbiev.

Yeah, i'm on the edge on my seat especially on round three, cheering that Berlanga would stand and finish the fight which fortunately he did hehe.

That was a one-sided affair but kudos to Edgar Berlanga for surviving the fight which most of the boxing fans thought that hw would not last six rounds.

My gut tells me that Canelo will face Crawford next and not Bivol or Benavidez as these are fights that are difficult to win hehe.

When I saw Berlanga on the canvas and his immediate reaction, I assumed he wasn't really dizzy. He was floored simply because of the impact of that hook. He was basically good, although I was worried about Canelo's strong urge to go for the kill after that. Great job indeed for Berlanga for surviving not just round three but the entire 12 rounds.

Canelo-Crawford is a dream match. How I wish we could see that happen before their careers' sunset. That would easily be the fight of the decade.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 16, 2024, 06:30:38 AM

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I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

Turki getting involved would greatly benefit fans and the sport because he is trying to reduce the price of PPVs. Canelo’s most recent fights have been $90, which is pure greediness. If they make the fight and they can get the cost down to $20, like Aj vs. Dubois, they can possibly get close to a million buys. I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it is being too optimistic to believe that fighters and promoters will actually do something for the greater benefit so I will not get my hopes up.

I was surprised that it was price at $90.00, I think that's expensive and with so many streamers offering it for free, I wouldn't be surprised that the numbers of PPV is going to continue to drop, unless Canelo is going to fight Bivol or Benavidez next.

Going back to the fight, I think almost everyone here (including myself), has a good bet on Canelo to win by decision. I already had this in mind, the over 8.5 rounds and then Canelo by decision win.

So congrats to those who ride on that bet as we have a good discussion as to why the fight will go to distance.

There’s a price, but I don’t think there’s any data yet on how much they made from PPV for that fight.
But according to the article below, Canelo’s expected to make around $35 million from the fight, which seems pretty huge. Could that really be true?

https://www.thesportster.com/canelo-vs-berlanga-purses-how-much-each-fighter-will-earn/

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Alvarez expected to earn $35 million, while Berlanga may earn $1-3 million, in the high-stakes matchup.

So even if the PPV revenue is not so much, Canelo’s still making a ton if that number’s legit.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 15, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: Jating on September 15, 2024, 05:00:42 AM

I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

Turki getting involved would greatly benefit fans and the sport because he is trying to reduce the price of PPVs. Canelo’s most recent fights have been $90, which is pure greediness. If they make the fight and they can get the cost down to $20, like Aj vs. Dubois, they can possibly get close to a million buys. I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it is being too optimistic to believe that fighters and promoters will actually do something for the greater benefit so I will not get my hopes up.

I was surprised that it was price at $90.00, I think that's expensive and with so many streamers offering it for free, I wouldn't be surprised that the numbers of PPV is going to continue to drop, unless Canelo is going to fight Bivol or Benavidez next.

Going back to the fight, I think almost everyone here (including myself), has a good bet on Canelo to win by decision. I already had this in mind, the over 8.5 rounds and then Canelo by decision win.

So congrats to those who ride on that bet as we have a good discussion as to why the fight will go to distance.

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Think that Canelo is going easy way again? I was thinking, that after a declass against Bivol, Canelo needed to rebuild reputation, maybe get some confidence. He had some easy opponents after Bivol, and I suppose it is time for him to get a real deal. On the other hand, look on his division. He has fought nearly everyone decent. Who should he face next if he wants to improve? Fighting guys like Berlanga is just building win record and fulfilming contract duties. He urgently needs to face top opponents of other divisions. Or it will be boring to watch him winning another young blood.

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