[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga - September 14 - page 3.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 15, 2024, 07:56:54 PM

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The expected knockout win by Canelo didn't happen so easy win for me as i have bet for Canelo to win via unanimous decision @3.75. Do Canelo in the decline or Berlanga is just a tough customer that avoided a humiliating knockout loss?

If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

Not quite easy actually as Berlanga was actually schooled all throughout the fight and was even knocked down as early as the third round. I was actually worried I'd lost my Over 9.5 bet when Berlanga was downed with an easy short left hook. Surely, you were also at the edge of your seat until the final bell was rung.

I guess it was a two-way scenario. Canelo was obviously in the decline and Berlanga was too conscious of his legendary opponent that he was always defensive from round 1 until the end.

People would quit saying Canelo is cherry-picking when he faces Bivol next especially if Bivol prevails over Beterbiev.

Yeah, i'm on the edge on my seat especially on round three, cheering that Berlanga would stand and finish the fight which fortunately he did hehe.

That was a one-sided affair but kudos to Edgar Berlanga for surviving the fight which most of the boxing fans thought that hw would not last six rounds.

My gut tells me that Canelo will face Crawford next and not Bivol or Benavidez as these are fights that are difficult to win hehe.

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I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

Turki getting involved would greatly benefit fans and the sport because he is trying to reduce the price of PPVs. Canelo’s most recent fights have been $90, which is pure greediness. If they make the fight and they can get the cost down to $20, like Aj vs. Dubois, they can possibly get close to a million buys. I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it is being too optimistic to believe that fighters and promoters will actually do something for the greater benefit so I will not get my hopes up.

I think it makes total sense to drop the PPV price now, especially since illegal streams are so easy to access. If the price was more affordable, people wouldn’t bother with those sketchy streams because they’d want a better experience at a price they can afford. You could call it greed or maybe just bad market research, but I’m sure if they lowered the price, they'd end up making more than they do with that $90 tag.

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Quote from: Jating on September 15, 2024, 05:00:42 AM

I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

Turki getting involved would greatly benefit fans and the sport because he is trying to reduce the price of PPVs. Canelo’s most recent fights have been $90, which is pure greediness. If they make the fight and they can get the cost down to $20, like Aj vs. Dubois, they can possibly get close to a million buys. I would buy it in a heartbeat, but it is being too optimistic to believe that fighters and promoters will actually do something for the greater benefit so I will not get my hopes up.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2024, 03:28:07 AM

The expected knockout win by Canelo didn't happen so easy win for me as i have bet for Canelo to win via unanimous decision @3.75. Do Canelo in the decline or Berlanga is just a tough customer that avoided a humiliating knockout loss?

If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

Not quite easy actually as Berlanga was actually schooled all throughout the fight and was even knocked down as early as the third round. I was actually worried I'd lost my Over 9.5 bet when Berlanga was downed with an easy short left hook. Surely, you were also at the edge of your seat until the final bell was rung.

I guess it was a two-way scenario. Canelo was obviously in the decline and Berlanga was too conscious of his legendary opponent that he was always defensive from round 1 until the end.

People would quit saying Canelo is cherry-picking when he faces Bivol next especially if Bivol prevails over Beterbiev.

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If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

What is left for Canelo, if he doesn't want to fight Crawford, Benavidez or Bivol, These three are capable of beating him, he declared himself the best boxer in the world right now, but that's questionable since he is alluding these three boxers who are very eager to fight him.

He is losing fighters to cherrypick; he will eventually have to decide who he wants between these three for him to declare himself the best boxer of this generation, You cannot call yourself the best when you are picking opponents that you can easily beat.

Canelo has always been good at presenting himself and that was evident back when he was a golden boy and for good reason he was considered the most profitable fighter for De La Hoya's company for a very long time.
As for Crawford, it can be seen that he also does not want to move to another weight class and still fights in the weights up to 69 kg, and Canelo acts in the weight class of 77 kg and to meet them it is necessary or Crawford to move through several weight categories up or Canelo on the contrary to go down in the weight category of Crawford, but the same Crawford does not feel so confident beyond 69 kg, which showed his last fight. So it's not all obvious, just like with Bivol, who is heavier than Canelo and in their fight it was obvious that Canelo doesn't feel very good at welterweight and lacks power, unlike Bivol.
So the only one Canelo can really face is Benavidez, but he's basically the most dangerous of those you mentioned and even Crawford doesn't want to fight him now.

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Quote from: Jating on September 15, 2024, 05:00:42 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2024, 03:28:07 AM

If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

What is left for Canelo, if he doesn't want to fight Crawford, Benavidez or Bivol, These three are capable of beating him, he declared himself the best boxer in the world right now, but that's questionable since he is alluding these three boxers who are very eager to fight him.

He is losing fighters to cherrypick; he will eventually have to decide who he wants between these three for him to declare himself the best boxer of this generation, You cannot call yourself the best when you are picking opponents that you can easily beat.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2024, 03:28:07 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 15, 2024, 02:08:40 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 15, 2024, 02:03:36 AM

Anyway, again, miracle did not happen. Canelo got another win in his record, another easy fight. While he is still in prime, he should face more dangerous and top fighters, and leave such guys as Berlanga for his carrer end.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t really gone up against the heavy hitters in the sport lately - he’s been cherry-picking for those easy wins. But if the rematch with Bivol happens, that’s a whole different story. It’ll give us something to look forward to and finally see him take on a real challenge again!

The expected knockout win by Canelo didn't happen so easy win for me as i have bet for Canelo to win via unanimous decision @3.75. Do Canelo in the decline or Berlanga is just a tough customer that avoided a humiliating knockout loss?

Berlanga is tough, but it just bring the best of Canelo here, and again, like in the Munguia fight, he knockdown the young man but didn't finished him and put up a clinic in the championship round. And It will be ok for Berlanga to suffer a defeat against the hand of Canelo. But think of this as lessons learn for him and he will improved for sure whether in 168 lbs or 175 lbs.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 15, 2024, 03:28:07 AM

If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

I do not see a rematch with Bivol or even a fight with Benavidez next. He has somewhat a very bad relationship with the power broker from Saudi. And I doubt that he wants to give Canelo a big paycheck fighting Bivol and Benavidez.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 15, 2024, 02:08:40 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on September 15, 2024, 02:03:36 AM

Anyway, again, miracle did not happen. Canelo got another win in his record, another easy fight. While he is still in prime, he should face more dangerous and top fighters, and leave such guys as Berlanga for his carrer end.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t really gone up against the heavy hitters in the sport lately - he’s been cherry-picking for those easy wins. But if the rematch with Bivol happens, that’s a whole different story. It’ll give us something to look forward to and finally see him take on a real challenge again!

The expected knockout win by Canelo didn't happen so easy win for me as i have bet for Canelo to win via unanimous decision @3.75. Do Canelo in the decline or Berlanga is just a tough customer that avoided a humiliating knockout loss?

If the rematch with Bivol will happen, i don't think there will a change in the outcome but it is a brave move by Canelo as the 175-lbs division is not his comfort zone.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on September 15, 2024, 02:03:36 AM

Google and social media shows me posts that Canelo is planning for a rematch with Bivol. Maybe that is going to be his next goal. But it will take time before they fight, as Bivol is about to face Beterbiev. And if Bivol looses, will Canelo still be interested in fighting him?

I think he’d still be interested, especially since he wants to avenge that loss and put an end to people talking about it. If he beats Bivol, he’ll probably go after Beterbiev next, since a win against Bivol would definitely boost his confidence. Or, there could be a trilogy with Bivol first, since that fight would bring in a lot of money. Either way, those would be big fights, and fans would definitely get excited.

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Anyway, again, miracle did not happen. Canelo got another win in his record, another easy fight. While he is still in prime, he should face more dangerous and top fighters, and leave such guys as Berlanga for his carrer end.

Unfortunately, he hasn’t really gone up against the heavy hitters in the sport lately - he’s been cherry-picking for those easy wins. But if the rematch with Bivol happens, that’s a whole different story. It’ll give us something to look forward to and finally see him take on a real challenge again!

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Google and social media shows me posts that Canelo is planning for a rematch with Bivol. Maybe that is going to be his next goal. But it will take time before they fight, as Bivol is about to face Beterbiev. And if Bivol looses, will Canelo still be interested in fighting him?

Anyway, again, miracle did not happen. Canelo got another win in his record, another easy fight. While he is still in prime, he should face more dangerous and top fighters, and leave such guys as Berlanga for his carrer end.

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Quote from: aioc on September 14, 2024, 11:27:15 PM

Berlanga is all talks but he is one tough fighter for Canelo it was a systematic beating from Canelo, Berlanga has no answer for all of Canelo's assault, Canelo just declared himself the best fighter and I think he is

This is the scores coming from all three judges

117- 110 / 118 - 109 / 118 - 109

It’s called complete domination. I had a feeling it was just another cherry-picked fight for Canelo, and as usual, it turned out to be one-sided. Canelo won by unanimous decision, which was good but not impressive to me since his power punches seemed to be missing. A knockout would have been better.

I only watched the highlights, so I didn’t see the full fight. For those who followed the fight, did Canelo mention anything about his next fight? Is he willing to accept a big fight that could excite the fans, instead of another expected one-sided result?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 14, 2024, 11:49:00 PM

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Berlanga is all talks but he is one tough fighter for Canelo it was a systematic beating from Canelo, Berlanga has no answer for all of Canelo's assault, Canelo just declared himself the best fighter and I think he is

Berlanga is very tough as he was able to take a lot of punishment and go the distance. I thought he might get knocked out but Canelo was low on stamina in the final rounds and that allowed Berlanga to survive.

Even though Canelo dominated the fight, I still can’t consider him the best in the world when he avoided the best fighter in his division. Berlanga was a cherry pick and everybody knew he was not ready for Canelo. He was maneuvered into a mandatory position because it was a marketable fight. He didn’t earn the opportunity based on merit. Canelo is somewhere in the middle top 10 in the pound for pound rankings for me.

I'm not expecting anything spectacular from Berlanga he is just youth and power, and he is raw; he is not on the level of Canelo, You cannot come to fight Canelo not doing something different; he is just there waiting for Canelo to come in and to make a mistake, but that's not going to happen.

This is a professor teaching a student how to do things perfectly, It was a hard lesson for Berlanga but now he knows what it takes to fight someone who has a flawless style.

Honestly, I don't want this kind of fight again, Canelo made it look so easy against low-level fighters; its time for him to silence the bashers and critics by fighting the likes of Benavidez or Crawford.

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Quote from: aioc on September 14, 2024, 11:27:15 PM

Berlanga is all talks but he is one tough fighter for Canelo it was a systematic beating from Canelo, Berlanga has no answer for all of Canelo's assault, Canelo just declared himself the best fighter and I think he is

Berlanga is very tough as he was able to take a lot of punishment and go the distance. I thought he might get knocked out but Canelo was low on stamina in the final rounds and that allowed Berlanga to survive.

Even though Canelo dominated the fight, I still can’t consider him the best in the world when he avoided the best fighter in his division. Berlanga was a cherry pick and everybody knew he was not ready for Canelo. He was maneuvered into a mandatory position because it was a marketable fight. He didn’t earn the opportunity based on merit. Canelo is somewhere in the middle top 10 in the pound for pound rankings for me.

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Berlanga is all talks but he is one tough fighter for Canelo it was a systematic beating from Canelo, Berlanga has no answer for all of Canelo's assault, Canelo just declared himself the best fighter and I think he is

This is the scores coming from all three judges

117- 110 / 118 - 109 / 118 - 109

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In the other event between McCumby and Plant I only get to see the highlights I thought Plant was going to lose the fight because he was knockdown in the 4th round, This McCumby is very tough; he was a huge underdog but until the round 5 he was doing good until Plant using his vast experience, skill and power went to business and stopped McCumby in the 9th round.

He is now the interim WBA Super Middleweight, and hopefully he will return as a champion; he still has it to become a champion.

Up next is Erislandy Lara against Danny Garcia, Garcia trying to capture his third title with this fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2024, 03:00:14 AM

Here is the weigh-in,

Berlanga = 167.5 lbs
Canelo = 166 and 3/4 lbs

Interesting to see that Canelo is light in this weigh-in, perhaps they really work hard for him to be within the weight limit. But as you Canelo is very relax while Berlanga seems to be on fire and wanted to fight already.

Don't forget to put your bet on this one, either over and under 6.5 or Canelo winning by knockout or going into distance.

Canelo feels extremely confident in the second middleweight division and his last loss to Bivol was at featherweight, so tonight Berlanga should have a one in the loss column and I think Canelo will finish this fight by knockout because he is more experienced, stronger and his defensive skills in this weight class are extremely great. I think Berlanga can be saved in this fight only by a lucky punch, but even in that case he should still try to knock out Canelo, which is still an extremely difficult task.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2024, 03:00:14 AM

Here is the weigh-in,

Berlanga = 167.5 lbs
Canelo = 166 and 3/4 lbs

Interesting to see that Canelo is light in this weigh-in, perhaps they really work hard for him to be within the weight limit. But as you Canelo is very relax while Berlanga seems to be on fire and wanted to fight already.

From day one on their face off, Berlanga is always on fire, even mocking Canelo. This is understandable; this is his first world title shot and he is against the pound-for-pound fighter of our times, while Canelo is very relaxed. its like another day in the office for him because this is his 26th title fight.

Berlanga should be very careful into thinking that he can take out Canelo like what he has been saying in every press conference, Canelo is very good at sizing his opponents; he knows when is the right time to take over and take out his opponent.

Canelo is a massive favorite in this fight, a 25-1 favorite at BetMGM Sportsbook Whatever Berlanga says to convince people that he will knock out Canelo they are not buying it, the discrepancies is just too wide

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Here is the weigh-in,

Berlanga = 167.5 lbs
Canelo = 166 and 3/4 lbs

Interesting to see that Canelo is light in this weigh-in, perhaps they really work hard for him to be within the weight limit. But as you Canelo is very relax while Berlanga seems to be on fire and wanted to fight already.

Don't forget to put your bet on this one, either over and under 6.5 or Canelo winning by knockout or going into distance.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 13, 2024, 09:51:32 PM

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Canelo's last KO win was in 2021 against Caleb Plant and it seems that the older he gets, he can't anymore KO his opponent but considering the immaturity of Berlanga where he have not fought a boxer like Canelo's caliber i think a bet for Canelo via decision @3.75 is a very risky bet but still i would go on that one as for me that is the only attractive odds of the fight.

Well, this the common mistake of the young fighters when going against the veteran and top caliber fighters. They tend to think being old could be a disadvantage against them, completely ignoring the fact that veterans knew every corner of the ring.
The odds is actually huge as Canelo being the heavy favourite. I'm not so familiar with Berlanga, but one thing is for sure, he's yet to fight a fighter in the top caliber like Canelo. So, being undefeated doesn't really mean that much in this match.

Right, it's one of their biggest mistakes of Berlanga, if he will be the one who is going to underestimate Canelo Alvarez in their fight. Canelo is not just a great boxer, he is an elite fighter, similar to the mold of Manny Pacquiao and other fighters who still box at mid 35-40 and still win a belt. That's how Canelo Alvarez is built, he has cemented his legacy as one of the best in this decade.

So it's very wrong for Berlanga to think that he can just defeat Canelo because of his age. He might not have the knockout power, but he still has this boxing IQ in him, to read this young fighters first, and then expose their weaknesses while he take advantage of them.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 13, 2024, 09:51:32 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 12, 2024, 09:23:14 PM

Canelo's last KO win was in 2021 against Caleb Plant and it seems that the older he gets, he can't anymore KO his opponent but considering the immaturity of Berlanga where he have not fought a boxer like Canelo's caliber i think a bet for Canelo via decision @3.75 is a very risky bet but still i would go on that one as for me that is the only attractive odds of the fight.

Well, this the common mistake of the young fighters when going against the veteran and top caliber fighters. They tend to think being old could be a disadvantage against them, completely ignoring the fact that veterans knew every corner of the ring.

I think that is the normal thinking of a young fighters, they are inexperienced and they thought that they can just score a win against a veteran and crafty and top caliber fighter. But Canelo is not like those old fighters, yeah, in terms of age, he might be the older between the two. But talent wise, he can still win in decision and punished young guys like what he did against Munguia.

Quote from: Oasisman on September 13, 2024, 09:51:32 PM

The odds is actually huge as Canelo being the heavy favourite. I'm not so familiar with Berlanga, but one thing is for sure, he's yet to fight a fighter in the top caliber like Canelo. So, being undefeated doesn't really mean that much in this match.

Berlanga is a up and coming fighter, he is from Puerto Rico, and we all know that there rivalries between this two nation in boxing. We have seen a lot of great fighters from Mexico and Puerto Rico fighting out for the belt. But in this case, Berlanga is a huge underdog, as he is almost 10:1 in this fight.

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