[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Jermall Charlo Super Middleweight (September 16) - page 5.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on June 22, 2023, 08:33:08 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on June 22, 2023, 08:00:20 AM

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

I am impressed with his decision. He doesn't seem to place too much importance on maintaining his undefeated record, especially considering the possibility of Canelo defeating him. This is a significant opportunity for Charlo, as fighting Canelo would undoubtedly generate substantial pay-per-view subscriptions and could be a defining moment in his career. While many may assume Canelo will easily win this fight given his dominance in the division, I prefer to entertain the possibility of a different outcome.

Well, he's been given a chance it's Canelo the undisputed and the most popular boxer now, he'll earn more than 3 or 5 of his last fights, so even if he is on two years lay off he'll take a crack, Jermall is still in his prime he is also a champion and he is one guy who goes for a legacy fight.
People think he has a slim chance but he is a fool to just turn back on this fight when every fighter wants Canelo
I voted for Canelo via knockout, but I could change my mind if Jermall can show something in the course of their conferences and face off.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 22, 2023, 06:21:24 AM

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

I doubt Charlo has a good chance to beat Canelo, Charlo only fought once in the last 2 years and he need to fight Canelo, one of biggest boxers in this era.

I checked several sportsbooks and I don't find they included this fight, but I'm pretty sure Canelo will be heavy favorite. I think this fight isn't final yet as the venue and judges are still not announced.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 22, 2023, 08:00:20 AM

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

I am impressed with his decision. He doesn't seem to place too much importance on maintaining his undefeated record, especially considering the possibility of Canelo defeating him. This is a significant opportunity for Charlo, as fighting Canelo would undoubtedly generate substantial pay-per-view subscriptions and could be a defining moment in his career. While many may assume Canelo will easily win this fight given his dominance in the division, I prefer to entertain the possibility of a different outcome.

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WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

Jermall will have a good excuse if he loses by knockout and I will be surprised and praise him if he upsets Canelo, Canelo's speed and power is still there, even though his dominant win against Ryder is being questioned.

He will have a good excuse if he will be defeated by Canelo but I don't think that he'll just sit quietly and wait for that to happen because it will be his first defeat, if ever. Besides, I cannot deny that it's hard to think that he will upset Canelo in his own comfortable division nor gamble against Canelo this time, and people are somehow saying the same thing too that.

But since Charlo agreed to fight Canelo in his return, I would like to think that there is a good plan behind this move because even this is a good paycheck for him after 2 years outside the ring, his record is also on the line. Anyway, still an exciting event so far.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

This will going to happen, and there's no doubt about that unless Charlo knocks him out. You see, there are lots of things to see whenever boxers like them will clash inside the ring, and one thing about this fight is their underestimation of Charlo; he needs to do everything in his training to surprise Canelo because it won't be like his last fights and this time he is expected to dominate him throughout the rounds in order to win the fight, but that's not possible in his current state. so, he needs to work hard to hone that unique skill to defeat Canelo.

Canelo is not undefeated, so it's likely that Charlo's camp is already studying and experimenting to identify Canelo's weaknesses. However, it's important to note that it's easier said than done. While Canelo has experienced two losses in his career, it does suggest that defeating him is not impossible.

By the way, have the betting odds for this fight been released already?

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

This will going to happen, and there's no doubt about that unless Charlo knocks him out. You see, there are lots of things to see whenever boxers like them will clash inside the ring, and one thing about this fight is their underestimation of Charlo; he needs to do everything in his training to surprise Canelo because it won't be like his last fights and this time he is expected to dominate him throughout the rounds in order to win the fight, but that's not possible in his current state. so, he needs to work hard to hone that unique skill to defeat Canelo.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 22, 2023, 03:17:40 AM

WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

The biggest question right now and I'm sure will be asked in the press conference is why a fighter like Canelo is in his comeback fight, I know Jermall is good but even a great fighter will have a hard time dealing with ring rust, two years is enough to consider it like retirement, unless he is not stopping his training and does sparring at least 2 weeks in a month.

Jermall will have a good excuse if he loses by knockout and I will be surprised and praise him if he upsets Canelo, Canelo's speed and power is still there, even though his dominant win against Ryder is being questioned.

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This is a good fight for Canelo as he seeks to face well-known boxers. Jermall Charlo, being a popular middleweight boxer, makes for an exciting opponent. While Canelo may not be considering moving up in weight, he consistently provides entertaining fights by not choosing lesser-known boxers.

Jermall Charlo currently maintains an undefeated record with 22 knockout wins in 32 fights, showcasing a strong track record. I believe he will present a tough challenge for Canelo.

@bisdak40, if there's a poll it would be better.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 22, 2023, 02:57:25 AM

The case of Jermall Charlo is really intriguing to say the least, he hasn't fought since 2021, and yet WBC hasn't stripped him of their championship. And there is a rumor floating around that says Charlo has been in some mental problems, it could be personal, that's why he hasn't fought for a long time.

And suddenly we heard that he is going back in fighting and then have Canelo as his comeback fight?

So very interesting pick of opponent from the Canelo side, for sure they know all the back story and it's obvious they are cherry picking Charlo for Canelo here.

WBC has favored Jermall Charlo to retain his belt even without having any title defense because the WBC champion had a serious head injury and other personal matters to solve, which made people to speculate that Charlo had a mental illness following his head injury.

Although none of that were confirmed, it will still remain as a mystery on why Charlo stayed inactive for almost two years.

And now that he is making his return, hopefully we can receive any answers during one of their few press conference or at least post-fight press conference.

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WTF is this? So Canelo is going to fight a guy (at least he is not a total trash with spoiled record), that hasnt fought for two years, is not going to fight in his usual weight class, and the fight might be in Mexico again. And this guy isnt even a mandatory challenger. After that, what is that "my legacy" Canelo is talking about, when he is cherry picking his opponents like that. I am disappointed with Canelo. He is turning into Mayweather, he is gonna fight much weaker opponent or even have that clown exhibition fights just for the money...

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The case of Jermall Charlo is really intriguing to say the least, he hasn't fought since 2021, and yet WBC hasn't stripped him of their championship. And there is a rumor floating around that says Charlo has been in some mental problems, it could be personal, that's why he hasn't fought for a long time.

And suddenly we heard that he is going back in fighting and then have Canelo as his comeback fight?

So very interesting pick of opponent from the Canelo side, for sure they know all the back story and it's obvious they are cherry picking Charlo for Canelo here.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 22, 2023, 02:19:46 AM

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Bu Charlo is a 160 lbs fighter throughout his career as a boxer, I don't think he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night. In terms of height yeah, all the advantage is with Charlo, but as far as weight goes, it will still be Canelo and this is his weight as he remains the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

And it's obvious that Charlo has been looking at 160 lbs, he can't go down to 154 lbs because his twin brother is at that weight class. So he has been calling Canelo out for years but Canelo doesn't respond until Alvarez started to do cherry pick fights after his hand surgery.

We don't know for sure, I mean we know that it's already a money fight and Canelo is looking at this fight as a cherry picking or might be another tune-up because of his situation but there is a side of me which is curious why Charlo is so determined and confident to call out Canelo on his own weight class. You know what I mean? I'm thinking that after all, Charlo is just sinking his size to fit at 160 lbs. when in-fact he's already fit to fight at 168 lbs.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 22, 2023, 01:45:24 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Yes, there's no doubt and honestly, I'm disappointed about Canelo Alvarez because lately he's been saying nonsense stuffs about this and that but in the end, here he goes, cherry picking his opponents because he's not the same anymore especially now that his wrist is not in 100 percent full condition.

Jermall Charlo is just taking advantage of the opportunity because he knows himself that he's not getting any younger anymore, so why not fight for a much bigger money this time and who knows, he might upset Canelo too although it's quite difficult to think because Canelo owns this division. But we'll see though.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on June 22, 2023, 01:45:24 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

Bu Charlo is a 160 lbs fighter throughout his career as a boxer, I don't think he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night. In terms of height yeah, all the advantage is with Charlo, but as far as weight goes, it will still be Canelo and this is his weight as he remains the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

And it's obvious that Charlo has been looking at 160 lbs, he can't go down to 154 lbs because his twin brother is at that weight class. So he has been calling Canelo out for years but Canelo doesn't respond until Alvarez started to do cherry pick fights after his hand surgery.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Jermall Charlo is in for the money, no doubt about it, i think he feels that there is not much money fight for him in the 160lbs division so calling out Canelo is a very good strategy and for the latter it is also a good fight for him since both David Benavidez and Bivol are risky fights that he might end up nothing, no more belts in hand.

This is the typical Canelo we have here, cherry picking once again a fighter who has not fought in more than two years and i do hope that no "rehydration clause" that will be stipulated in the contract as Jermall is 6'1" and he could be bigger than Canelo come fight night.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 21, 2023, 08:41:02 AM

Damn Charlo need to increase his weight between 6-14 lbs because he was a light middleweight boxer, he skipped the middleweight division. Charlo never fought in other division too, so this will become his first time to fight in the other weight division. Canelo is really get a lot privilege, the venue might happen on Mexico. This is definitely cherry pick, Canelo will beat Charlo in easy.

Yes, we've seen that in the last couple of fights of Canelo, they are indeed cherry picking their opponents now. Charlo's best weight division is middleweight, 160 lbs and he was a champion. So his body need to adjust to the needed weight and I'm expecting that in the weigh-in, he might be below the required weight of 168 lbs.

Although he can claim that he can easily make the weight because he don't have to diet or something. But still though, there is a lot of adjustment carrying that extra weight that your body is not accustomed too. Plus the speed and the power itself, it might not be enough to upset Canelo and he might just walk through Charlo's power here.

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 21, 2023, 06:59:53 PM

There's no doubt Canelo Alvarez is the clear favorite here. His enemy hasn't had any fights for the last 2 years. I guess the trashtalks were worth it, because Alvarez clearly took the bait. It's a huge paycheck for Charlo even if he loses this fight because a lot of people will clearly be watching this fight solely because of Canelo.

There's no odd yet if I'm not mistaken. But I do agree that Canelo will be a huge favorite again in this fight. Could be like the Ryder fight as per odds. But in any case, I don't see this fight as hype though, I mean Canelo could be still be the cash cow, but fighting a boxer who has been on almost retiring and very inactive for many years? what gives?

Why Canelo camp chooses Jermall Charlo when they can have Bivol or Benavidez? Is this just one of those cherry pick fight for Alvarez? Or this is going to be the norm for him as he is now on a decline?

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Thanks to this, yeah, I posted it here when it was still a rumor hehehe. So it finally made official now.

And if I'm not mistaken, Jermall Charlo has been calling out Canelo for years now, before his hiatus and inactivity in boxing. Nevertheless it's a good fight for him money wise. But I think he will be too small for Canelo though, he is a good middleweight champion, but going up in weight and inactive in the last years or so might be too much for Charlo. So let's see if Canelo can get back to knocking out his opponent or if he is over the hill now and can't pull the trigger.

This is a bad time for Jermall to take the Canelo fight, he has two years lay off and it will show up in his fight like what happened to Josh Taylor against Teofimo Lopez, Canelo is just coming from a dominant win against Ryder and his momentum will carry on this fight.

I'm sure this is going to create a lot of hype I don't know if Jermall will show aggressiveness in their press conferences as he did against Harrison, you don't want to anger Canelo because he brings his anger in the ring.

Yes, but who can say no to Canelo fight? Alvarez is the cash cow, and just like Manny Pacquiao during his height, everyone wanted to fight him because it's a sweepstakes. And maybe this is what the camp of Charlo is thinking for sure.

I do agree, the Charlo brothers is known for trash talking, but I don't think that Canelo will back down from trash talking. He has improved his English a lot, and if I'm Charlo, I wouldn't go that fire and awake the fire in Canelo. Don't trash talk him as it might back fire on him, like in the Caleb Plant.

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There's no doubt Canelo Alvarez is the clear favorite here. His enemy hasn't had any fights for the last 2 years. I guess the trashtalks were worth it, because Alvarez clearly took the bait. It's a huge paycheck for Charlo even if he loses this fight because a lot of people will clearly be watching this fight solely because of Canelo.

This isn't worth it to bet. Odds are stacked against Charlo, and the best lines here perhaps is at what round will Canelo will win, which is a coin toss really.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 21, 2023, 06:11:42 PM

Thanks to this, yeah, I posted it here when it was still a rumor hehehe. So it finally made official now.

And if I'm not mistaken, Jermall Charlo has been calling out Canelo for years now, before his hiatus and inactivity in boxing. Nevertheless it's a good fight for him money wise. But I think he will be too small for Canelo though, he is a good middleweight champion, but going up in weight and inactive in the last years or so might be too much for Charlo. So let's see if Canelo can get back to knocking out his opponent or if he is over the hill now and can't pull the trigger.

This is a bad time for Jermall to take the Canelo fight, he has two years lay off and it will show up in his fight like what happened to Josh Taylor against Teofimo Lopez, Canelo is just coming from a dominant win against Ryder and his momentum will carry on this fight.

I'm sure this is going to create a lot of hype I don't know if Jermall will show aggressiveness in their press conferences as he did against Harrison, you don't want to anger Canelo because he brings his anger in the ring.

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