[Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 49.

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Quote from: yazher on May 14, 2022, 11:37:30 PM

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Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

I haven't seen some news related to it yet but it doesn't mean it won't happen. Maybe there are ongoing works but information related to that maybe not just disclosing it to the public to avoid the spoil. That's usual and who knows we might be got surprised with the official announcement anytime.

Remember what Spence Jr. said before his fight against Yordenis Ugas? He will have 2 fights before moving up weight - that was against Yordenis Ugas and surely, the other one is against Terence Crawford.

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Quote from: yazher on May 14, 2022, 11:37:30 PM

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

Nothing official yet. Still, a lot of time to do the negotiation.

We can hope that this fight is still possible to happen since there are lots of hints about these.

There's no way Spence will just move up without clearing things. Let's expect news maybe next month or two.

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Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

Hmm, and since Charlo won the undisputed 154 lbs against Castano, I think this will open another book for Spence to go up one weight division against and fight Charlo, hence he wil be avoiding Crawford again?

I'm just thinking this scenario in my head as a Charlo vs Spence has also been in the discussion lately although if I'm not mistaken, they are in the same team or at least train by the same person or grew up together so they are close.

If the negotiations between Spence and Crawford will not materialize, he may really think of going up.
However, their fans are rooting for this fight to happen first before anything else.
Their respective promoters may be are already in talks with each other. Because that's the next big fight for Spence that can get them huge payout.
Unification of those belts will attract more spectators rather than Spence going up in weight division. That's my opinion though.

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Quote from: yazher on May 14, 2022, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 07:48:38 PM

Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

Hmm, and since Charlo won the undisputed 154 lbs against Castano, I think this will open another book for Spence to go up one weight division against and fight Charlo, hence he wil be avoiding Crawford again?

I'm just thinking this scenario in my head as a Charlo vs Spence has also been in the discussion lately although if I'm not mistaken, they are in the same team or at least train by the same person or grew up together so they are close.

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There's no confirmed news about this fight but that doesn't this will not gonna happened. This hot topic is not yet month ago though and typically promoters and managers do the negotiation in private and announce when confirm. Spence and Crawford has no reason now to not pursue this fight and in fact both fighter wants this. There's a high chance that this fight of the history will happened this year. We just need to wait and don't rush things.

The potential profit for this fight is very huge so why will the promoter cancel this kind of fight that everyone is waiting for many years.

It is very evident that Spence prolonged this fight to gain a competitive edge such a letting Bud get a little older. He took page out of Mayweather and Canelo's book who are the masters of waiting until its safe to fight someone. Deep down, I don't want them to fight as they are undefeated icon brothers our last heroes seeing them beat each other is just wrong but them beating others love it.

It is somehow inevitable for some boxers to maintain their records clean until the day of their retirement, and actually, only few of these best boxers will only achieve that kind of feat. Being a smart one and playing it safe will indeed help to maintain these certain records.

For Spence, we can say that he learned and mastered that kind of approach so that he can get the most pay-cut for most fights he will have in the future and second, delaying fights of some tough boxers will really change the odds into his advantage which also brings back to my first line, maintain his record clean until he decides to hang up his gloves.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 15, 2022, 12:46:13 AM

Quote from: Eternad on May 15, 2022, 12:04:50 AM

There's no confirmed news about this fight but that doesn't this will not gonna happened. This hot topic is not yet month ago though and typically promoters and managers do the negotiation in private and announce when confirm. Spence and Crawford has no reason now to not pursue this fight and in fact both fighter wants this. There's a high chance that this fight of the history will happened this year. We just need to wait and don't rush things.

The potential profit for this fight is very huge so why will the promoter cancel this kind of fight that everyone is waiting for many years.

It is very evident that Spence prolonged this fight to gain a competitive edge such a letting Bud get a little older. He took page out of Mayweather and Canelo's book who are the masters of waiting until its safe to fight someone. Deep down, I don't want them to fight as they are undefeated icon brothers our last heroes seeing them beat each other is just wrong but them beating others love it.

I'm not sure if this is true though, he himself has inadvertently prolonged it as well when he had an accident and then had a eye injury.

But now is the time for both of them to square in the ring. Both of them are still in their prime even though Crawford is a bit older. But he hasn't been on a war so his health is still intact.

I think it's just about the money why this two hasn't fought. But as we all know, there are no more hindrance to not make this fight.

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Quote from: Eternad on May 15, 2022, 12:04:50 AM

There's no confirmed news about this fight but that doesn't this will not gonna happened. This hot topic is not yet month ago though and typically promoters and managers do the negotiation in private and announce when confirm. Spence and Crawford has no reason now to not pursue this fight and in fact both fighter wants this. There's a high chance that this fight of the history will happened this year. We just need to wait and don't rush things.

The potential profit for this fight is very huge so why will the promoter cancel this kind of fight that everyone is waiting for many years.

It is very evident that Spence prolonged this fight to gain a competitive edge such a letting Bud get a little older. He took page out of Mayweather and Canelo's book who are the masters of waiting until its safe to fight someone. Deep down, I don't want them to fight as they are undefeated icon brothers our last heroes seeing them beat each other is just wrong but them beating others love it.

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Quote from: yazher on May 14, 2022, 11:37:30 PM

Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 07:48:38 PM

Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

There's no confirmed news about this fight but that doesn't this will not gonna happened. This hot topic is not yet month ago though and typically promoters and managers do the negotiation in private and announce when confirm. Spence and Crawford has no reason now to not pursue this fight and in fact both fighter wants this. There's a high chance that this fight of the history will happened this year. We just need to wait and don't rush things.

The potential profit for this fight is very huge so why will the promoter cancel this kind of fight that everyone is waiting for many years.

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Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 07:48:38 PM

Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If this is true, then it's heartbreaking news for us boxing fans because we already speculating the kind of fight these two will give us inside the ring. Boxers can't do anything when their manager is against it and they are just following it despite their fans wanting it to happen. Anyway, hoping to see more of their fight no matter who will be the opponent, and let's just hope they will gonna end up negotiating their fight in the future after winning some fights against other boxers of course.

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Quote from: harizen on May 14, 2022, 07:48:38 PM

Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

If the fight between Spence and Crawford will happen anytime soon, I believe, they can make a lot of money here.
Maybe, it is their respective promoters that are still in negotiation about the purse split.
Sometimes, the reason of delay is not because of the boxers but their promoters themselves.
So even if the boxer declare he wants to fight this boxer, it won't happen unless his promoter said so.
Let's wait if their promoters can agree with the purse split and give their fighters a chance to prove themselves.

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Right now, as far as my browsing and searching related to this are concerned, the expected bout between Crawford and Spence is still unclear up to this point. No ongoing negotiations or status is been released.

But this has to happen no matter what. Even Jemell Charlo said that Crawford needs to pass Spence.

Unfortunately for Crawford, Charlo thinks that he won't stand a chance against Spence that's why there will be no discussion of future fights between him and Crawford. What's your opinion on this guys?

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Quote from: stadus on May 14, 2022, 02:27:46 PM

Yes, somewhere in the end of this year or 1st quarter next year is indeed a good schedule to fight if they can agree on terms as soon as possible. Spence is not that heavily damaged in his last fight as well against Ugas and actually, I'm seeing it as a flawless victory on his side.

I think that would be 1st quarter next year. My reason is, they don't want the fight to be held close to the date of the possible trilogy of GGG and Canelo although since the latter loses, there still a match planned involving these 2 greats around September like GGG against an still unknown boxer and Canelo vs Bivol possible rematch.

They maybe don't want people to spend money consecutively on 2 big fights to make the full possible revenue on PPV. Just my 2 cents.

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Quote from: stadus on May 14, 2022, 02:27:46 PM

I believe that Crawford has no quarrel if he will just receive a 40% of the purse cut because he can still earn some good clean money on PPV's revenue as well as this fight will likely be with Spence's promotional camp, PBC.

Agree, 40% for Crawford is expected to be big as their fight is a much-anticipated fight long and many viewers will spend money on it. Much better maybe before that he will have a guaranteed $10M to receive if he fights Pacquiao, no set purse split.

On the other hand, Spence can surely gather lots of viewers and will help contribute to the PPV being sold out again, as usual.

40% for Crawford, if he insists, I doubt Spence will still be interested in fighting him.

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Quote from: Jating on May 13, 2022, 02:39:09 PM

^ For sure this will attract a lot of boxing fans around the world. Both coming from a great victory and display of their boxing skills. And we would say that this fight is on our "wish list" for sometime now. And this is going to be for the undisputed, and the winner becoming the true pound for pound champion as well (with Canelo's recent lost). So they really need to talk and sit down. As for the negotiations, Crawford has no promotional manager so he is free and no one is standing between him and PBC (Spence promotion). So if both is ready, maybe the end of the year is a good schedule.

Yes, somewhere in the end of this year or 1st quarter next year is indeed a good schedule to fight if they can agree on terms as soon as possible. Spence is not that heavily damaged in his last fight as well against Ugas and actually, I'm seeing it as a flawless victory on his side.

I believe that Crawford has no quarrel if he will just receive a 40% of the purse cut because he can still earn some good clean money on PPV's revenue as well as this fight will likely be with Spence's promotional camp, PBC.

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^ For sure this will attract a lot of boxing fans around the world. Both coming from a great victory and display of their boxing skills. And we would say that this fight is on our "wish list" for sometime now. And this is going to be for the undisputed, and the winner becoming the true pound for pound champion as well (with Canelo's recent lost). So they really need to talk and sit down. As for the negotiations, Crawford has no promotional manager so he is free and no one is standing between him and PBC (Spence promotion). So if both is ready, maybe the end of the year is a good schedule.

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 12, 2022, 02:37:04 PM

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We cannot exactly know if Spence and Crawford have some plans to have some fight but if they were in the talks in the past, maybe the reason why the haven't happen is because they don't agree with each other's terms and probably the purse cut as we know that Spence won't accept anything below 60%. Especially now that he defeated Ugas. Thurman's time will come soon and definitely that's not now, maybe soon he can get to fight the loser between Spence and Crawford.

This. It's the money that they can't agree on. Spence would surely want to be paid premium if he is to fight against Crawford now that he has sealed some big wins under his belt. Crawford's camp also wouldn't settle for less, hence they would just look for other fighters that could also bring in the hype and have some promising shares that the said camps can work on.

Only way to make this fight happen is to promote it real hard to make viewers interested that the pay cut no longer matters since they will all get a big fat check in the end.

That was the case in the past that is why their said fight wasn't materialize, if indeed there was some talks. Now that they will likely share a ring, Crawford should just accept the fact the he will be only entitled for about 40% max of the purse cut because he cannot also deny that Spence is above on him now and the fact that he can generate much more revenue each fight than Crawford can.

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Only way to make this fight happen is to promote it real hard to make viewers interested that the pay cut no longer matters since they will all get a big fat check in the end.

With Spence's name on the fight, that will already get the people interested to see the fight because he can really entertain the crowd and with the combined name of Crawford. This fight will surely become a blockbuster hit!

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We cannot exactly know if Spence and Crawford did have some plans to have some fight but if they were in the talks in the past, maybe the reason why it haven't happen is because they don't agree with each other's terms and probably the purse cut as we know that Spence won't accept anything below 60%. Especially now that he defeated Ugas.

I think the situation is different now and there should be no problem now for Crawford to accept a much lower split. Spence deserves the 60/40 split based on the status of their revenue in their previous boxing matches. As Arum considered, Spence is the King of PPV, and the majority of Spence's PPV is blockbuster and sold out.

Crawford just needs to accept it since as soon as he beat Spence, then he can demand a much more split on his future fight.

I think Crawford has no choice right now, if he wanted to fight Spence Jr, then a 40% offer is already good in my opinion.

Accept the money and then beat Spence Jr, to proved that you are the best. If there is such a rematch then obviously you will now be the A-side of the fight. And you can demand higher split and the tables could turn.

40% is indeed fare split to be honest Spence has more popular in terms of sales and organizer usually consider that for profit sharing distribution. I agree that he needs to prove himself by beating Spence before he can demand more shares. I believe he can request for 60% or higher in case he manage to win and Spence request for a rematch.

Yes, that is the only way to get and be the A-side, you beat Spence in his own terms. And if there is rematch, then you will negotiate for a higher split in your own terms and that is boxing. Otherwise if he insists higher than 40%, Spence might walk out and go to 154 lbs and the fight is not going to happened. The fans has been waiting this fight for years and now is the right now.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 01, 2022, 10:48:05 PM

Definitely, fans are willing to pay to watch this fight live and thru PPV. It's going to be the biggest fight in the welterweight division since the Pac-May and could be in the top 5-10 as far as PPV number goes.

Just scary though how Spence beat Ugas as he dominated him and we thought that it's going to be a close fight.

So it's hard to see who will win between this two great fighters, but I might be leaning towards Bud Crawford as great fighters adjust in the middle of the fight.

This must be another dream fight that the whole world should never missed to see. The goal is to witness and find who's the greatest welterweight right now, the reason why this fight should have a fixed date by now as this will bring thrill and excitement again in the boxing ring. Both are undefeated and have to defend their individual titles the best way they can. And only this fight can tell who will level up this time. If this fight will not be finalized, i guess both their fans will be devastated about it.

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