Topic: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez - page 10. (Read 6629 times)

Agree to that, Canelo's camp might change direction once Bivol got upset with Ramirez. As far as I remember, he said that he's not willing to fight to any of his countrymen, but the chance of seeing a rematch is possible. Pride and money I guess Alvarez knew that if the rematch takes place, his fans will surely support him and it will generate a decent amount of money.

Win or lose both fighters will be secured by huge amount, but like what we mostly said, Bivol will be wiser now.

He's the belt holder if, in case he also beats Ramirez, money should be flowing for him this time.

I think it would be on the  light heavyweight fight, since Canelo losses on that division.


Southpaw being better than orthodox is just a myth  .  There are lots of southpaw boxers being trashed by the orthodox boxer.  It is that southpaw has the advantage because of the number of orthodox boxers swarming the boxing industry.  Meaning Southpaw boxers has more chance of being exposed to Orthodox boxer so they get used to the orthodox boxer while orthodox seldom face southpaw boxer making them feel a bit awkward when they met one.

I guess we will see it soon if he will take that chance to fight the undisputed boxer it may be Zurdo, Beterbiev or Bivol and I strongly believe that it's the latter who will reign as undisputed. Aside from that, Canelo might be busy in SMW as well as he will also have to defend his titles, or the sanctioning bodies will give him a mandatory opponent. Well, for us, Canelo is already irreplaceable because he managed to attain the highest attainable rank in the boxing, and he just need to accept sometimes that there are certain divisions that doesn't suit to him.

Yes, Canelo and Hearn doesn't have much choice but to agree with Bivol's decision as he already earned the right to demand in case a rematch will happen even if the fight will be contested at 168 pounds. But before that, we know Canelo's camp are still observing what will happen on Bivol's upcoming match as that will determine if they will activate the rematch or not. We will know about it more soon, just like what you've said.

Negotiation will take place for sure and both camps will agree if where they wanted to see the fight to happen, learning from that last fight and the money still stuck for sure Bivol's camp will be more wise now, they will not allow that to happen again since it will be Canelo that will ask for the rematch and they have the belt if Bivol continue to win.

We will hear more about this once both camps start negotiating if they are still interested in fighting each other and if Canelo is still interested in redeeming himself after suffering a defeat from Bivol.

That is also the issue because Bivol haven't received his share yet, maybe he'll get interested or may give Canelo a chance if Hearn will pull some strings to get Bivol's share that was guaranteed to him. Also, Bivol already learned a lesson in American soil and I won't be surprised if the fight will take place in UAE where the place is neutral for both camps. That is the nearest possible scenario because Bivol here have earned his right to demand.

I think there's no other candidate for Canelo's next possible match other than Dmitry Bivol and Beterviev. It's been always the talk that Bivol might be the next after Canelo successfully settle the business with Gennady Golovkin last month.

Although if Zurdo Ramirez will win here, we should expect that Bivol's rematch against Canelo might not happen.

Not unless Bivol will go down weight just to meet Canelo. Although Canelo doesn't have to gain for fighting Bivol again, he should fight Bivol no matter what to clear that bitter loss during their match.

Well since Canelo doesn't have any tasks left to do in the Super Middleweight, what's next is trying to dominate the Light Heavyweight even for others, its a suicide for Canelo. At least he's not the type of boxer that will protect his legacy by just staying in his comfort weight division.

Just look at how the boxing community responds when Canelo was defeated by Bivol. There's not much criticism because at least he tried moving up. Although he failed to win against Bivol, it doesn't mean he can't come back anymore.

Bivol seriously knows his boundaries even if he knows that his chances against Canelo are high in SMW and he knows that going after Canelo again won't help him achieve what he wanted in the first place, unfortunately for Canelo, he just became a stepping stone for Bivol to gain more experience and add him to his pretty record.


Canelo fighting for undisputed title in light-heavyweight? There's a chance but he got to be that lucky if he can have that chance because there are others in the said division who are lined up already. Also, Beterbiev might be hailed as undisputed here and Canelo will fight him? Doesn't make sense because he'll just add another defeat in his record. He can't even defeat Bivol and he is thinking that he can crack Artur Beterbiev? Surely, that's a suicide and might be the first time seeing Canelo sleeping in the canvass.

^^ Yes, Canelo has a good management team lead by Eddy Reynoso. So for sure he will look for the best interest of his client and see what the future will bring for him, whether to stay at 168 lbs or move up to 175 lbs and face Beterviev or Bivol or go to CW at 190 lbs and get his next belt. Or just be a free agent so that he can fight anyone and this is a good option but we will have to see. He has good relationship with Match Room so he could be open for another 2-3 fight with them.

Well, Canelo will defend his undisputed belts at super-middleweight anyways. If he feels better at super-middleweight than at light-heavyweight then he should try to convince Bivol to let the rematch happen at 168. Maybe Bivol will be less robust and his punches are not that strong at 168. And Canelo mentioned that getting his revenge on Bivol is very very important to him. Here's what Canelo said:


Yes, you are right. It was a 2 fight deal with Matchroom and DAZN. Although ever since HBO left boxing, Canelo is always with DAZN already. Except when Canelo fought at Showtime in order to unify his WBA, WBC, and WBO titles against PBC's former IBF champion Caleb Plant.

Canelo owns Canelo Promotions and is very active in Mexico. But the big promotions like Top Rank, Matchroom, Golden Boy, and PBC (hiding under a managerial license) are the ones promoting the big fights in the biggest stage of boxing.

Canelo loves DAZN but I won't be surprised if he will temporarily fight at the other networks soon knowing there's only Bivol/Ramirez and Andrade left for him. Showtime/Fox has Benavidez and Charlo while ESPN has Beterbiev. 

There can be no such assurances if the match takes place in the United States. Some of the users are even suggesting payments using Bitcoin, but that is also not possible. All modes of payments are prohibited from the United States towards Russian citizens, and that includes cryptocurrency as well. Only remaining option is to stage the match outside the United States and the European Union, for which Canelo would disagree. So for the foreseeable future, we can say that a match between Canelo and Bivol will not take place.

All will be updated after these upcoming fight, for now we can just speculate and give our opinions to whoever challenger Bivol will face, as for your information still the money from that last fight against Canelo still not being transferred as whole, hopefully Bivol and his camp will be able to enjoy the money. It's a risk that he takes accepting the challenge against Canelo and he is the underdog and regards to the profits, Canelo and his camp already consuming all those dollars that they've taken even they lose the fight.

And regards to possibilities, I agree better for Bivol's camp to make an assurance that if ever they will accept his next challenger, they will be assured not to have any issue with the payment.

With regard to Bivol and with everything that has to do with the problem of Russia and Ukraine, I think that the best thing is that the fights take place, Bivol I think he was the only Russian athlete who was allowed to participate in a fight when all the Russian athletes They have them betated, just like what happened in the soccer world cup, so I think that Bivol and the boxing federation should not allow him to be paid to the authorities by banks, but I think that now there are many options, I don't know if the boxers They can demand payment in Bitcoin or other means so that they do not have any retention problems, of course this is an option that I say, but I imagine that they will have obviously considered it.



If the payment problem escalates, I think that both the sponsors and the boxing federation themselves will look very bad, they should put in context the fastest and safest option, that they pay Bivol in Bitcoin, or in any other means of payment, but if they decide to do it in the USA and that their main obstacle is that, it will be seen as something very ridiculous and that would be a scandal for everyone, I think everyone would come out very badly, I think Bivol, if I remember correctly, does not want to fight against Canelo, what I am not sure is if it is for that reason, but as I said before, it would be very bad if that was the impediment.

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This Zurdo vs Bivol fight promises, and many informations appear:

30 days to go for Bivol-Ramirez 





Source: https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/30-days-to-go-for-bivol-ramirez

Things are heating up, and fans are increasingly wanting to know more about the preparations, this fight really promises, the bets will be very high.

After beating Canelo, the confidence of Bivol's fan is really high, the winning chance is greater compared to his opponent.

Ramirez stat in papers gives him that credit that he's a decent fighter as well, but likewise the quality of his fight might be different from

what Bivol's achievements, we will be able to witness them fighting and after the fight we will all be witness who will dominate and after

the fight, we can judge and conclude who's the best fighter between the two.

Great fight in paper, but I would still give it to Bivol

1. Ramirez record is 0 losses, but if you just check the quality of the boxers that he has face, I think Bivol has better record

2. Bivol technique is far more superior, he has beaten Canelo already, so it just shows that he is not afraid to face anyone and execute his gameplan to win fights.

So this is not going to be a 50:50 fight in my book, it's either Bivol by KO or UD, in my opinion.

But if the fight will happen at super middleweight, Canelo would risk all of his belts and Bivol actually become a challenger here. It doesn't make Canelo gain anything if he win against Bivol, so it doesn't make any sense for Canelo fight on super middleweight.

Yeah both of them have difference stance, Bivol is an orthodox style (right handed) while Ramirez is southpaw style (left handed). In theory southpaw is better than orthodox since it's more flexible. But Bivol's left hand is strong too and he mostly combine left jab-hook then he will punch with his right hand.

If I'm not mistaken, his trilogy fight with Canelo is the last fight that he had with Hearn and DAZN?

And so if he wanted to fight Bivol next then he either sign a new deal or totally become free as a fighter and handle his own promotion. So it might be easy for him to go to other division as well and get that 5th weight title that he wanted to be the first Mexican to do that.

But we will see if he is willing to sign with Hearn and DAZN since they pay him good money.

This will be a great fight tbh because both of them have different techniques to handle their opponents based on their previous fights . And that's why I'm not surprised why they own a great records in boxing history, wherein surely this will be a tough fight for both sides especially for the undefeated that needs to keep his belt and to maintain the good record.

That's right. If Bivol prioritized money, he could've accepted Canelo's offer to let the rematch happen at super-middleweight instead of light-heavyweight. Bivol could've agreed since he is a small light-heavyweight anyway. Bivol could've asked for more money guarantees.

Canelo still has a rematch clause but at light-heavyweight. I believe Canelo loves challenges too especially since he is nearing his mid-30s soon. Maybe he can tell Hearn and DAZN to let Bivol fight Beterbiev at Top Rank and ESPN. Then he fights the winner.