Topic: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez - page 11. (Read 6639 times)

There is no update, because Bivol hasn't received any money yet. The amount included 5 million USD in guaranteed purse, and a share of the PPV buys. The rematch can go forward, given Canelo's team find a solution to this issue. Either the fight can take place in the United States, with a mechanism in place which guarantees that Bivol receives the payment. Or the fight need to take place in middle-east or China, so that there is no issue with transferring the money. If both these options are not possible, then Bivol should look elsewhere.

But I guess they should have at least made some efforts by now on how they can get the payment to Bivol? Everyone wanted to see his fight, the demand is there to held the fight in the US because of Canelo's followers and fans. But both side or at least Bivols' manager should have a plan outwit or bypass it. They can't remove Bivol at this point, he is other champion in LHW division. Ramirez is still the outsider unless be beat Bivol in their fight. And if ever he beats him, Canelo already insisted that he won't face Mexican next.

Money wise Bivol may choose to fight another fighter instead of Canelo he might learn from that last fight as he didn't get the whole amount not looking to any update yet if the money already been transferred to him. Though both he and Canelo might look for an alternative route in case there's no rematch, that may take place for them.

If Bivol will win this one for sure, there are other challengers that will going to seek for him, and to highlight your comment regards to neutral countries.

It would be the best options for Bivol's camp to accept the challenge and make a huge amount of money.

As you said, Bivol is not prioritizing Canelo and he won't be if he will come out successful in his fight against Zurdo Ramirez as a fight against Canelo is just a pure money fight with no glory to make. He already proved his talent against the undisputed boxer and upsets Canelo, that said, a rematch from Canelo's camp is the least of things he thinks of.

Canelo have two choices if Bivol turns out to be the winner in his upcoming fight, first is that he has to wait because chances are high that Bivol will pursue Beterbiev first and second is to forget having a rematch because there's also a high chance that he will have the same result. And there's no roadblock for an undisputed fight in LHW because Bob Arum openly said that he will allow Beterbiev to fight after his title defense.

There is an issue for Bivol, if he decides for a rematch against Canelo. Canelo would insist that the match needs to take place within the United States. And if that happens, it will be near impossible for Bivol to receive any payments or share from the PPV buys (since he is a Russian citizen). Therefore I am not sure how excited will be Bivol for a fight against Canelo. Artur Beterbiev on the other hand is a Canadian citizen, and may agree for a fight in Saudi Arabia or some of the other neutral countries. The same with Gilberto Ramírez as well.

We can't say that yet until they both share a ring but you're also right, Beterbiev is indeed a difficult boxer to crack and there's a very high chance that if you'll get caught in his punches, that'll be the end of you and take note, Beterbiev won all his fights by a KO or TKO. Anyway, that is if Bivol can defeat Ramirez and I think it's too early for that kind of discussion.

Currently, only Bivol, Ramirez and Beterbiev managed to keep their records undefeated in the light-heavyweight division. But there's this English boxer named Callum Smith who's standing next in rank of the three aforementioned boxers and he's much more taller than Ramirez. He is also a former WBA champion in super-middle but he was defeated by Canelo Alvarez and climbed the next division right after that fight.

Moneywise, Bivol would try to make Canelo activate the rematch clause if he wins against Zurdo. And it is also dangerous for Bivol to pursue a unification fight with Beterbiev because he is probably the underdog despite the 3-belt champ's age. And Canelo will never be interested to fight a beltless Bivol. But these fighters from the former Soviet Union are more glory hunters and money only comes second. Beterbiev and Bivol's team might want them to fight Canelo and Yarde respectively for money purposes but we heard these 2 champions during interviews on who they want. Both Beterbiev and Bivol said they want to face each other because they want to become undisputed.

I don't see Bob Arum protecting Beterbiev to face Bivol here knowing his fighter is the A side and probably the slight favorite but only due to Beterbiev's age. Beterbiev is a beast, he would've re-arranged Canelo's face and body if they were the ones fighting. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I believe Beterbiev is the last one to knockdown and hurt our current heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk. And we know Usyk is another legend in the making. Bivol and Beterbiev need to fight each other if they want to enter the Hall of Fame. But DAZN and Matchroom should allow Bob Arum and ESPN to promote and televise the fight to turn this into a reality.

Bivol will have a good chance to win this fight in my opinion. And if he does, his manager will look at what fight is best for him financially. And it seems that it will be Canelo, in my opinion.

The unification fight with Beterbiev may have to wait, yes they are the two best boxers of the division, and they need to face each other. But Arum will protect Beterbiev and so he will let him face Canelo to be soften up. And if my memory serves me right. Beterbiev is injured.

That really the advantage that I'm seeing before, Bivol doesn't need to do anything aside from being well-prepared facing his challenger while in the other side, Canelo needs to add weight and be familiar with it, both needs focus to maintain and to move accordingly which will need some time before he really can achieve it. Bivol didn't waste his time taking that advantage and keeps doing what he knows that he's capable, surprising Anleo with his natural speed and those counter punches that really shake Canelo.

I'm not sure about that rumor, but like you, I can see that Canelo's camp needs to think twice before challenging Makabu. If, in case that Bivol again survives this upcoming fight, Canelo might consider the rematch against him instead of chasing Makabu.

We never knew until these two great boxers Bivol (if ever he wins against Ramirez) and Beterbiev face each other in the ring.  I greatly agree this would be a huge match if ever the deal between the two camps is sealed.  But of course, Bivol need to face Ramirez first and Ramirez promised to beat Bivol and bring back the title to his country.

Or maybe the division is really that weak, that only Bivol and Beterviev has the belt in this division.

Nevertheless, Ramirez might be a step up to the boxers that Bivol fought, however, we have seen him fight Canelo and defeated him easily. And as per Zurdo, him and Canelo used to spar before in the amateur, so they really know each other and maybe this is the reason why Canelo insists that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican. But Zurdo think otherwise, he want to fight the fight even if it means going after Canelo. But we will have to wait and see if he can win against Bivol and derail the rematch between Canelo.

the motivation is great but can he really upset bivol here? based from his record, he has big chance. no losses throughout his professional career. that's a feat also. what i like about bivol is he's not resorting to any trash talk. he just does his job inside the ring. but if you do believe ramirez has chance on this match, the odds are good having 4.70x at stake.  that is, if you think upset may possibly happen on this fight.

So that also means that Bivol have managed to defend his belt successfully for 9 times straight, he truly deserved to be commended because that feat is not an easy thing to do especially here in light-heavyweight where almost all boxers are tall and powerful. However, there's a new challenger in town, Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez. His resume seems great and credible but he will be tested by Bivol first and him using Canelo as a driving force doesn't bother the Russian boxer.

No way, challenging Beterbiev is just make Bivol career will end since Beterbiev might become the winner. So it doesn't make sense for Canelo challenging Bivol anymore, there's no belt on their fight. Bivol vs Beterbiev will become a big match since both of them are the only have belts on light heavyweight division, rematch may possible to happen too. I don't see many good boxers on light heavyweight division.

Zurdo had been waiting for this fight.  He has been eyeing Bivol but Bivol is evading him so this fight will make his wish come true.  I think Zurdo will give Bivol a hell of a fight but I do not think Bivol is inferior to him, in fact I think Bivol has a better chance of winning in this match.


If ever Bivol wins this fight, I do not think that his priority is Canelo.  I think Bivol is eyeing title fights so possibly Artur Beterbiev.

Just for the record, this will be Bivol's 10th defense of his WBA crown, and so we can say that he is one of the best lightweight in recent years, him and Beterviev is on the top of this division.

But Ramirez wanted to change that, he even spin his motivation that he wanted to beat Bivol so hard just because he beat the 'best Mexican' today, in Canelo. Probably just adding fire inside of him, but for sure Bivol doesn't care and just wanted to get a victory here and then fight that Alvarez again.

Well, it is no secret to anyone that Zurdo is going to come out with everything, because he is such a temperamental boxer, I think he will make war on Bivol in a very good way, for me Bivol is at a very high level, he is a complete boxer and has very good technique, I know that both techniques are good, the left-handed one is more rudimentary, it comes from the old school, and Bivol is Russian and I don't know any Russian who boxes badly, so this duel will be very interesting, besides there is a precedent that is with his partner Canelo, so this will be one more motivation for ZURDO, and he wants to be more famous, he wants to have more attention and obviously money.


Although I am a faithful follower of Canelo for all his performance, I must say that first we must wait for the result of Bivol vs Zurdo, the reason is simple, if we get to see Zurdo he really wants this fight, he is very anxious, and I think that he can have good results if he proposes something good, also Bivol trusts a lot in his technique and it is not bad, it is good to be safe but I think that this time Zurdo is speaking very seriously, which makes this fight very interesting, at least For me I think it's worth it, and if Lefty wins? Canelo will still go for the rematch I imagine, and then if Bivol will want that rematch as soon as possible.

I guess we can also say that Canelo might have underestimate Bivol too because he thought that he could crack another title in the light-heavyweight as he successfully did the same thing 2 years ago against Sergey Kovalev. Seriously, they need to consider that Bivol was a natural in that said division while Canelo needed an extra weight to meet the required weight, that also means that he will get slower while giving an advantage to Bivol. And now, there's a rumor that Canelo will face Ilunga Makabu in cruiserweight. That's a suicide!

I agree with that, promoters should choose a location where they can maximize their revenue on this fight. Bivol after beating Canelo is certainly the favorite here, but I would say Zurdo Ramirez is not an easy opponent, so we will likely see a very interesting fight.

Bivol has to win here because Canelo is sure ready for their rematch.

He should get it without any deductions, not sure if still part of the law in regard to their punishment with Russia
but like wise he should get everything.

United Arab is a neutral place for both fighters and the money that possible to flow is also decent, promoters and
handlers know where to find money it's part of scouting.

We will see these two fighters to showcase their talents and only one will declared to be a winner unless it will be
declared as a draw.