Topic: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez - page 3. (Read 6660 times)

As long as Bivol will take a higher cut the fight between Canelo will still be a good money fight for him, after we witness how he dominated the fight against Ramirez, it gives him entire credit for defending his title, Now, the chance of Canelo to challenge and have a rematch will be an interesting one to watch out, maybe there are negotiation that needed to settle between these two fighters, but for the fans once Canelo calls for this fight it will surely gain interest from the fans.


If Bivol will be true to his word, then the said possible upcoming fight will be more interesting, Canelo don't need to add muscles and will be fighting on his comfort zone, while Bivol as you said, don't have any issue meeting the scale, if he win against Canelo again it will be an added title to him.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

The fight between Zurdo, his opponent only won 2 rounds, I think that was only rounds 2 and 3, the rest was dominated by Bivol.

Well his opinion is very valid, as for Bivol I think the Russian is preparing like the gods and should be in his best shape to face southpaw, as I said before, Bivol will not leave anything to chance, he wants to ensure this fight , in fact I think that Bivol sees this fight as being able to rise to the best, winning titles and doing different ways to be able to climb with his fights, he not only wants a rematch to show that he is the best, he wants to level up, Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted by all means to go to another category because he has how to do it and the talent to do it.


Well, what I have thought is that Bivol has nothing to do with Canelo, for now I think he does not want revenge, what he is looking for is to enter the biggest, be recognized and have a lot of fame, that is why he cannot to be from revenge to revenge, he is only looking for the fights that can raise his level, for me what he wants is not to earn a little money but a lot, and this is achieved with great fame, he is also Russian and since all the restrictions that there are currently for this type of athlete due to the situation in the world, I think he wants to position himself very well.

It is very easy for him to have a rematch, and he does not show much, because he has already defeated Canelo, perhaps it is expected that more fights will happen for both him and Canelo, Canelo has to do things better and that is something that he must demonstrate, while tatoél continues in his thinking.


Well, I didn't know that part, I didn't think there was a clause that could activate a possible rematch fight, for me Bivol doesn't have the slightest interest in fighting Canelo again, I think Canelo should rather be interested in improving his hand is good, because with Bivol things are very different and this can trigger that if Canelo loses I could leave him very badly off, and this in the life of a boxer is not good at all, however I know that boxers have to activate their clauses when they see it necessary, it remains to be seen if it is activated.

In the case of Bivol, since he is so focused on his objectives, I imagine that he should ignore what Canelo asks of him, he wants fame, but a much more overwhelming fame.

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Dmitry Bivol's Mastery Continues With Dominant Win Over Zurdo Ramirez




Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivols-mastery-continues-with-dominant-win-over-zurdo-ramirez--170285

I don't think Bivol can decline the fight if Canelo activates it because he signed the contract containing that a rematch will happen if the losing side chooses to, but the situation now is different and if you saw the post-fight press conference, it was said that Canelo can't throw a punch currently because of the injury he sustained for about 2 months. So, we might see a unification first before Canelo-Bivol fight.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.

That is if Bivol had that much leverage to decline the fight if Canelo activates the rematch but anyway, is that already official like Bivol already spoke about it? I know Bivol wants to have his chance first against whoever will win in the fight of Beterbiev and Yarde but that may take time because their fight is already delayed.

No doubt about that at all, Beterbiev won't be holding that impressive record with a 100% success rate on his knockout if he's not powerful enough. Which I bet it will be the biggest challenge for Bivol soon enough if these two current champions in the light-heavyweight division will get their chance to share a ring together.

And about Bivol and Ramirez recent match, I'm quite disappointed about the latter because I expected that he will at least give Bivol a good fight and do what he talked weeks before their fight, but what happened was the opposite because he gassed out early and it was evident that he is not that good enough compared to Bivol.

Canelo rematch won't happen for now. Bivol wants to become undisputed at 175 lbs first.

After Bivol successfully become undisputed at 175 lbs then he can now accept any challenges since that would be a mandatory fight.

Promoters can't just organize a fight based on what the fans like because of certain circumstances.

That 1-2 punch of Bivol is very effective, and an efficient energy saver because this kind of combination is the bet combination to use because it doesn't eat up too much stamina.


Joshua Buatsi is also a good contender I think with an unblemish record of 16 wins with 13 ko while Anthony Yarde even though with 2 losses, he is no. 1 contender in WBO # 3 in both IBF and WBC.  But of course nothing beats the thrill of having two undefeated boxer protecting their unblemish records in a match.  So I think if not Beterbiev, if not Canelo, then the next exciting fight for Bivol would be Buatsi.

True, I look at the numbers and Bivol really dominated the fight with his jabs and power shots,


https://www.boxingscene.com/dmitry-bivol-vs-gilberto-ramirez-compubox-punch-stats--170261

So early to say if he will go for a rematch with Canelo, but yeah, Callum Smith names keeps popping out Joe Smith as well.

Let's see how it goes, but for sure Bivol has solidify himself and a good candidate as others says, for fighter of the year.

Not only speed but precision too, those two attribute makes Bivol dominate the fight.  Besides Ramirez looks tight.  He looks like he forgot to loosen up before the fight.  Unlike Bivol whose movement is so fluid.  I really like how he hit Ramirez even though Ramirez is in a defensive stance.  I guess, Ramirez realized and regret why he pick a fight against Bivol.


If there is a clause of a rematch in the contract between Bivol and Ramirez then we will be seeing a rematch, probably after Canelo.  Or a match against Smith Callum, though Callum was defeated by Canelo, I think it is still one of the interesting matches since Beterbiev - Bivol is kinda vague to happen.

Canelo rematch would be preferred by its promoter too. It's the money to get that counts. Bivol is very confident in his skills, he retained his title for a long time. Both orthodox are better to watch against a southpaw, thier front foot is too uncomfortable to watch, Bivol has stepped on Zurdo's foot many times. After Bivol found his range, he suddenly just keep throwing combo very timely pushing Zurdo to a corner.

A fight with canelo would be exciting.
I also assumed Ramirez would be at the upper hand last month. I was not fully aware of his career so I did my research on these two which gave me an expectation of the possible winner. But after what happened, stats alone won't really determine or even assure a win between a fight; there are really many things that could happen. Zurdo had a clean record as well and a higher KO rate but during the fight, the underdog began to 'bite'. Both fighters did great for the audiences even if it yield to a unanimous decision (most of us I bet, are waiting for a KO). On my perspective it was a close fight but for the judges, there's a domination on the end of Bivol which is reasonable if we would come into details. Still a great fight for both of them. But I'd probably start to put Bivol on my list of fighter to watch from now.

^^ Yes, it's going to be sad not to see a unification fight between the 2 Russians.

Speed kills and that is what we have seen again on Bivol, even at a heavier light heavyweight division, his hand speed is really extraordinary. And he has a good chin as well, I think it's round 1 or 2 wherein he has hit by Ramirez and his head snap, but he just eat it and then move forward in the next couple of rounds.

Maybe we will see a rematch after this one. Although Bivol said he doesn't want to even if there is a big money, nevertheless it could only be his option right now.

This is what's wrong with boxing now, the politics, and it is something that should be stopped because it's robbing the boxing community who are willing to pay to see great fights and boxers because they are being deprived of establishing their legacy, only the promoters win because they can extract a lot of money from good boxers fighting low-level boxers.

One example is the Crawford - Spence deal which ended in Crawford fighting an unknown Avanesyan and Spence fighting Thurman.

I'm one of those who bet for Zurdo to win by decision because of the juicy/attractive odds but i have said that this bet is very risky as Bivol is a focused fighter and he just showed us why he became the WBA champion of this division. If only I have a substantial amount to bet for this fight, I would take that Bivol by decision @1.55.




A fight with Beterviev is very unlikely for now because of this boxing politics that deprived us of the fights that we wanted to see. Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn should set aside their ego for the sake of the boxing community that wanted this fight to happen.

As expected, Dmitry Bivol has outclassed Zurdo Ramirez. Phenomenal speed and footwork. I wonder how those feel, who expected Ramirez to win, because his record is better than Bivol has. I wonder if they made any bets, because odds were really juicy.

Looking forward to see who is going to be Bivols next opponent. I think it is about time to face Beterbiev. A rematch with Canelo - I will see nothing new compared to their first fight.

I expect Beterbiev to beat Yarde he is the superior fighter between the two, there should be a unification bout between
Bivol and Beterbiev both are undefeated and they are so dominant against their opponent, I just hope that they will not demand too much and they will not do what Spence and Crawford have done avoiding each other and then blaming one another when the negotiation fails, they will be a better fight than the Spence - Crawford.

Compare the two current LHW champion, Beterviev has more power obviously. And it's hard to knockout a fighter like Ramirez who is really huge in this fight, you can see the big difference when they hug each other, probably Ramirez weight around the CW limit and so Bivol punch doesn't have sting, but it has an effect on Ramirez for sure.

And it's the volume punch of Bivol, so hard for Zurdo to cover up when Bivol will throw 3-5 punches. Beterviev will have a fight against Yarde next year and so let's see if he can fulfill his side of the bargain. And hopefully we might see a unification fight in LHW.