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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on December 27, 2022, 06:23:06 PM

This seems kind of like a pointless fight to me. Thurman has been inactive and hasn't beaten a ranked fighter in several years but now he magically became the WBC's #1 ranked contender out of nowhere. Spence should be fighting his mandatory Jaron Ennis or Eimantas Stanionis who has been waiting a long time for his opportunity and has been paid to step aside. The only thing that Thurman has going for him is that he's a recognizable name but I doubt he'll be any more of a challenge than Danny Garcia and Ugas were to Errol Spence.

After his loss to Manny Pacquiao back in 2019, his career nosedived. Back then Thurman was the favorite to win the fight, but Pacquiao just destroyed him. The scorecard(SD) indicate that the fight was close, but anyone who watched it on TV would disagree. Thurman was competitive only from 6th or 7th round. His next fight came after almost 3 years, when he managed to defeat Mario Barrios by UD. The Barrios fight was quite one sided (scores of 118-110, 118-110, 117-111), but then Mario Barrios is not one of the top fighters in the super lightweight division.

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This seems kind of like a pointless fight to me. Thurman has been inactive and hasn't beaten a ranked fighter in several years but now he magically became the WBC's #1 ranked contender out of nowhere. Spence should be fighting his mandatory Jaron Ennis or Eimantas Stanionis who has been waiting a long time for his opportunity and has been paid to step aside. The only thing that Thurman has going for him is that he's a recognizable name but I doubt he'll be any more of a challenge than Danny Garcia and Ugas were to Errol Spence.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 27, 2022, 05:20:55 PM

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Quote from: stadus on December 27, 2022, 03:21:25 PM

So, hopefully, this bout with Thurman against Spence will indeed materialize. The latter should stop playing games if his leg is not that severe and face Thurman like a true boxer and prove to everyone that he is not afraid of anyone.

I guess he'll prove it to us that he's not afraid of everyone. Where do you guys get to see the updated news about this bout?

I'm starting to have that sense that there should be more news and updates about this match for it to materialize. I'm looking for some but can't found anything related to it.

Most of the ones that have appeared were from month/s ago.

seems that this match won't happen anytime soon. but spence's camp seems to avoid the crawford fight for now. they are looking for other boxers to fight with, maybe preparing spence first. but fight with thurman is a good prep i believe. the prob with most promoters is if they won't see large paycheck, they won't take the bait. spence vs crawford seems to be far from the horizon atm.

Too many other boxers that they can fight with so, they've got to pick whichever they think will bag them money and also will help Spence's rank go higher.

Those that are hype on this if ever it happens, we just have to wait until it happens. That's why I'm keeping a close eye on this one and does search at random times hoping that there could be good news.

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Quote from: livingfree on December 27, 2022, 04:52:57 PM

Quote from: stadus on December 27, 2022, 03:21:25 PM

So, hopefully, this bout with Thurman against Spence will indeed materialize. The latter should stop playing games if his leg is not that severe and face Thurman like a true boxer and prove to everyone that he is not afraid of anyone.

I guess he'll prove it to us that he's not afraid of everyone. Where do you guys get to see the updated news about this bout?

I'm starting to have that sense that there should be more news and updates about this match for it to materialize. I'm looking for some but can't found anything related to it.

Most of the ones that have appeared were from month/s ago.

seems that this match won't happen anytime soon. but spence's camp seems to avoid the crawford fight for now. they are looking for other boxers to fight with, maybe preparing spence first. but fight with thurman is a good prep i believe. the prob with most promoters is if they won't see large paycheck, they won't take the bait. spence vs crawford seems to be far from the horizon atm.

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Quote from: stadus on December 27, 2022, 03:21:25 PM

So, hopefully, this bout with Thurman against Spence will indeed materialize. The latter should stop playing games if his leg is not that severe and face Thurman like a true boxer and prove to everyone that he is not afraid of anyone.

I guess he'll prove it to us that he's not afraid of everyone. Where do you guys get to see the updated news about this bout?

I'm starting to have that sense that there should be more news and updates about this match for it to materialize. I'm looking for some but can't found anything related to it.

Most of the ones that have appeared were from month/s ago.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 27, 2022, 10:41:08 AM

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

Can be consider as a good fight but like what you just mentioned there are many upcoming fights next year and being part of greatest fight might be conclusive after they perform inside the ring, I like to see how Thurman will force his way to earn the belt again while on the other side, I also want to see how will Spence defend his belt and not to allow Thurman to strip it out from him.

Both fighters are good and capable of winning, either a successful title defense or an upset. We will expect bookies to place Spence as a slight favorite, but for Thurman's fans, ML is better if upset was completed.

Let's hear it from Bob Arum himself,

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“That’s a good fight,” said Arum to BoxingScene.com. “Many people think that Spence has no problem with Thurman but I disagree. I think he’s got a good shot, he’s got a good shot. He’s a very skilled fighter, I give him a very good chance.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-counting-thurman-out-possible-spence-matchup--171396

And I think majority of us here will agree, if this fight pushes through, Thurman has a good shot against Spence. I mean yeah, he could have ring rust, but Thurman still has the power and former champion and for sure learn his mistakes in the Pacquiao fight.

Hopefully, both camps will agree already and announce the official fight.

Agree with this as we all know Thurman fought in the ring and way back his last fight against manny Pacman Pacquiao for sure he learned a mistake, and that mistake will be his inspiration to fight spence and aim for the victory. I don't think so if thurman already rust in the ring but the only thing I know is that Thurman is not an easy guy, he is a tough boxer who can dominate his opponents by this furious hands and strong punches.

It seems to me that Keith Thurman wasn't struggling at all in his fight against Mario Barrios and in that fight, I was already expecting a much slower Thurman as for sure he will be struggling in the ring because of the ring rust effect as it has been quite a long time since he goes off the grid, but he had no signs at all in all 12 rounds. What happened was the opposite thing because he was impressive, it's just that he was just taking his time in that fight to get himself accustomed again.

So, hopefully, this bout with Thurman against Spence will indeed materialize. The latter should stop playing games if his leg is not that severe and face Thurman like a true boxer and prove to everyone that he is not afraid of anyone.

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

Can be consider as a good fight but like what you just mentioned there are many upcoming fights next year and being part of greatest fight might be conclusive after they perform inside the ring, I like to see how Thurman will force his way to earn the belt again while on the other side, I also want to see how will Spence defend his belt and not to allow Thurman to strip it out from him.

Both fighters are good and capable of winning, either a successful title defense or an upset. We will expect bookies to place Spence as a slight favorite, but for Thurman's fans, ML is better if upset was completed.

Let's hear it from Bob Arum himself,

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“That’s a good fight,” said Arum to BoxingScene.com. “Many people think that Spence has no problem with Thurman but I disagree. I think he’s got a good shot, he’s got a good shot. He’s a very skilled fighter, I give him a very good chance.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-counting-thurman-out-possible-spence-matchup--171396

And I think majority of us here will agree, if this fight pushes through, Thurman has a good shot against Spence. I mean yeah, he could have ring rust, but Thurman still has the power and former champion and for sure learn his mistakes in the Pacquiao fight.

Hopefully, both camps will agree already and announce the official fight.

Agree with this as we all know Thurman fought in the ring and way back his last fight against manny Pacman Pacquiao for sure he learned a mistake, and that mistake will be his inspiration to fight spence and aim for the victory. I don't think so if thurman already rust in the ring but the only thing I know is that Thurman is not an easy guy, he is a tough boxer who can dominate his opponents by this furious hands and strong punches.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 26, 2022, 06:35:41 PM

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

Can be consider as a good fight but like what you just mentioned there are many upcoming fights next year and being part of greatest fight might be conclusive after they perform inside the ring, I like to see how Thurman will force his way to earn the belt again while on the other side, I also want to see how will Spence defend his belt and not to allow Thurman to strip it out from him.

Both fighters are good and capable of winning, either a successful title defense or an upset. We will expect bookies to place Spence as a slight favorite, but for Thurman's fans, ML is better if upset was completed.

Let's hear it from Bob Arum himself,

Quote

“That’s a good fight,” said Arum to BoxingScene.com. “Many people think that Spence has no problem with Thurman but I disagree. I think he’s got a good shot, he’s got a good shot. He’s a very skilled fighter, I give him a very good chance.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-counting-thurman-out-possible-spence-matchup--171396

And I think majority of us here will agree, if this fight pushes through, Thurman has a good shot against Spence. I mean yeah, he could have ring rust, but Thurman still has the power and former champion and for sure learn his mistakes in the Pacquiao fight.

Hopefully both camps will agree already and announced the official fight.

Seems that Arum is making some hype and with such a statement it can trigger more interest coming from fans and readers, a good push for both camps as money will flow if this fight will be pushed. It's a mandatory so chances are really possible for both fighters to meet inside the ring. The organization can give some time for Spence, but the fight will proceed if the rules will be strictly implemented.

I will agree with your statement, Thurman will learn about his experienced way back. That Pacquiao fight needs to be an inspiration for him to aim more and twist his fate and bring back his legacy on top.

If the fight will proceed and he (Thurman) manages to win, a belt will value his name and more money fight for him.

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

Can be consider as a good fight but like what you just mentioned there are many upcoming fights next year and being part of greatest fight might be conclusive after they perform inside the ring, I like to see how Thurman will force his way to earn the belt again while on the other side, I also want to see how will Spence defend his belt and not to allow Thurman to strip it out from him.

Both fighters are good and capable of winning, either a successful title defense or an upset. We will expect bookies to place Spence as a slight favorite, but for Thurman's fans, ML is better if upset was completed.

Let's hear it from Bob Arum himself,

Quote

“That’s a good fight,” said Arum to BoxingScene.com. “Many people think that Spence has no problem with Thurman but I disagree. I think he’s got a good shot, he’s got a good shot. He’s a very skilled fighter, I give him a very good chance.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-counting-thurman-out-possible-spence-matchup--171396

And I think majority of us here will agree, if this fight pushes through, Thurman has a good shot against Spence. I mean yeah, he could have ring rust, but Thurman still has the power and former champion and for sure learn his mistakes in the Pacquiao fight.

Hopefully both camps will agree already and announced the official fight.

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

Can be consider as a good fight but like what you just mentioned there are many upcoming fights next year and being part of greatest fight might be conclusive after they perform inside the ring, I like to see how Thurman will force his way to earn the belt again while on the other side, I also want to see how will Spence defend his belt and not to allow Thurman to strip it out from him.

Both fighters are good and capable of winning, either a successful title defense or an upset. We will expect bookies to place Spence as a slight favorite, but for Thurman's fans, ML is better if upset was completed.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 24, 2022, 12:27:01 PM

Quote from: Blawpaw on December 24, 2022, 07:59:49 AM

This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

There are a lot of potential fights in 2023, like Fury vs Usyk for example, that is more exciting as this one. And so we can't be sure that this is the greatest or even considered greatest fight in 2023. But as gamblers, of course, any fight will be our favorite specially if the odds are going to be good and if we are going to bet for the underdog, it will be a big win for us. Let's wait for the official announcement, Spence is ok now after the vehicular incident and Thurman could be just waiting for this fight to be officially offered to him and see what is the numbers or the purse split.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 24, 2022, 12:27:01 PM

Quote from: Blawpaw on December 24, 2022, 07:59:49 AM

This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

I wouldn't consider it the greatest fight yet, there are a lot of upcoming fights in 2023, and it's too early to say that this could even be a candidate for the fight of the year for next year. But this is a good fight to see, Thurman is a former champion, although not that active after his defeat to Manny, he can still be pose and be a threat to Spence at 147 lbs and for sure there are a lot of pride in the line here. But Spence will be the slight favorite in this fight, but Thurman could be a big test against Spence, I think more than in the Ugas fight and could be one of the toughest fight for Spence.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 24, 2022, 12:27:01 PM

Quote from: Blawpaw on December 24, 2022, 07:59:49 AM

This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

Not the greatest because it's not a battle of champions, there's only one champion here and that is Spence, maybe one of the greatest as I'm pretty sure we will have to witness plenty of championship fights next year. Anyhow, this fight should happen as Thurman vs Spence is just a great match up, they could have fought when they were both champs, but I'm glad Thurman was given a chance after his come back win.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on December 24, 2022, 07:59:49 AM

This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

For sure this fight will be the greatest fight in 2023 because in this division this two fighters is good and have an unstoppable record. But this fight for sure Spence will be the favorite for gamblers and the fans but this fight will be the best for thurman as they fight for the belt so thurman will do his best to beat spence to claim the belt and a champion as well but spence will do the same.

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This is one of the most expected fights for next year. While Spence is being called out to defend the WSB Title, Thurman will do everything he can to take the title away from Spence. I expect to see a tight fight but believe Spence will defend the title until the end and will not allow Thurman to have an easy job. That said, I believe Spence will hold his title and come up with a win from this fight

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2022, 06:25:02 PM

Alright, anyone with a wild guess?

Who's the other fighter that has a chance to face Errol Spence next if Thurman won't be his next opponent?

I'm not talking about boxers that you preferred but those boxers who are already on Spence's list, if there are any, or currently in the rumor.

Not sure if only Thurman was being considered.

It's really hard to guess mate knowing that Errol Spence is probably fooling us around these days, I mean, he doesn't have any updates at all despite the fact that people and his fans are waiting for his side to confirm things about his upcoming fight with Thurman.

If Thurman won't get the chance to fight Spence next year, I don't know anymore because if he's also scared of Thurman then I don't expect that he will fight the likes of Ortiz Jr. and Boots Ennis who is next in rank. Climbing up? I don't think that's possible for now because he's too drawn with his belts.

He has to comply as Thurman is his mandatory challenger, maybe no update for now but for sure next year we will already hear an update regarding this fight. Spence is the champion, the word afraid should not exist in his system, and that way, we will be able to see a very entertaining and unpredictable fight early next year.

That's only our speculation in this fight, it's just normal to state our opinion because this fight is a big fight that could attract a huge crowd. Also, for PPV, I guess this will sell as Thurman and Spence have good PPV numbers in their past fights. Thurman had comeback, but if he will lose against Spence, I think his next path will be retirement.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 24, 2022, 06:45:21 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2022, 06:25:02 PM

Alright, anyone with a wild guess?

Who's the other fighter that has a chance to face Errol Spence next if Thurman won't be his next opponent?

I'm not talking about boxers that you preferred but those boxers who are already on Spence's list, if there are any, or currently in the rumor.

Not sure if only Thurman was being considered.

It's really hard to guess mate knowing that Errol Spence is probably fooling us around these days, I mean, he doesn't have any updates at all despite the fact that people and his fans are waiting for his side to confirm things about his upcoming fight with Thurman.

If Thurman won't get the chance to fight Spence next year, I don't know anymore because if he's also scared of Thurman then I don't expect that he will fight the likes of Ortiz Jr. and Boots Ennis who is next in rank. Climbing up? I don't think that's possible for now because he's too drawn with his belts.

He has to comply as Thurman is his mandatory challenger, maybe no update for now but for sure next year we will already hear an update regarding this fight. Spence is the champion, the word afraid should not exist in his system, and that way, we will be able to see a very entertaining and unpredictable fight early next year.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 22, 2022, 06:25:02 PM

Alright, anyone with a wild guess?

Who's the other fighter that has a chance to face Errol Spence next if Thurman won't be his next opponent?

I'm not talking about boxers that you preferred but those boxers who are already on Spence's list, if there are any, or currently in the rumor.

Not sure if only Thurman was being considered.

It's really hard to guess mate knowing that Errol Spence is probably fooling us around these days, I mean, he doesn't have any updates at all despite the fact that people and his fans are waiting for his side to confirm things about his upcoming fight with Thurman.

If Thurman won't get the chance to fight Spence next year, I don't know anymore because if he's also scared of Thurman then I don't expect that he will fight the likes of Ortiz Jr. and Boots Ennis who is next in rank. Climbing up? I don't think that's possible for now because he's too drawn with his belts.

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I don't know whether this fight will happen or not. Recently there was a spat between Terence Crawford and Keith Thurman, in which the former accused the latter of running away from the fights. Anyway, before this, Thurman had announced that his opponent would be either Spence or Crawford. Since the Thurman vs Crawford fight can be ruled out for now, the only possibility is for a Spence vs Thurman fight. Also, Crawford scored a victory over David Avanesyan a few days back and is even more confident. So Thurman has reasons to avoid Crawford.

Yes, I also think that this fight may not happen. I do not know if Crawford still has trust left in PBC after he wasted nearly a year just to make a unification fight with Spence. Making another deal might be difficult since Thurman is with PBC and Showtime too.

I saw a lot of social media posts showing pictures of both Crawford and Ennis. It seems like they were backed by PBC in order to mislead the public that Crawford vs Ennis is the fight that needs to happen. But in reality, Ennis should be the IBF mandatory of Spence. Hence, it should be Spence and not Crawford. And besides, Ennis is also with PBC which makes sense for Spence.

Yes, 147 lbs is pretty much in the control of PBC right now, unfortunately, They have the 3 belt champion and then the upcoming fighter. Crawford is lead for nothing in the welterweight and might be fighting another B fighter in the level of Avenasyan next. And when we thought that him leaving Top Rank is going to be good for his career, it seems its is going on the opposite side since no one is going to negotiate for him under this powerful boxing promotions like Al Haymon's PBC.

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Anyhow this is about Spence vs Thurman, and hopefully Spence will not hide on the excuse of his accident and will fight Thurman as his mandatory next year.

I hope so as that's the only way we will see a big fight next year involving Spence. The Spence vs Crawford is probably off already, so this is the only big fight that could bring excitement to us, and I'm pretty sure that Thurman will try to take the belt and be a champion again.

In my perspective, I think it's much better not to expect from this fight either because Errol Spence Jr. might use his situation as an excuse to get a free pass and we shouldn't also forget as well that Spence do still have some grudge against Keith Thurman because the current champion wasn't given a chance to have his shot at a title fight in the past years when Thurman was still a champion. I surely don't hope for that situation, but I don't see any reasons also to oppose it because their camp is so silent ever since the Crawford-Spence issue. All that talk that he is going after Crawford next now turns to dust. Just saying.

What we can do now is just to wait, since it was a mandatory fight then the organization can bring this one into reality, else, the belt will be available for Thurman, it's the schedule that fans and readers will be waiting after that said accident of Spence, but the fight might be push as the organization got the final say for this and not the camps that involves.

Well, I guess we don't have any other choice here other than waiting because their schedule is not yet posted plus, we have Spence's recent situation where his legs are affected. But I certainly do hope that he's not wasting anybody's time this time around and will not use his current situation as an excuse to delay the mandatory fight much longer than expected.

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