Topic: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 - page 7. (Read 3605 times)

He did that in their first meeting, it's just unfortunate that he got exhausted easy and that's the reason why he lose power. Despite of that, he was able to survive but unable to win the fight for the obvious reason. Maybe he needs to play smarter this time, be more technical than just going all out war.

Agree with. It's good to place a bet on something that we really like to and the odds for it are worth placing a bet on.

Besides, regardless of the odds or how strong Martinez is compared to Ancajas, there's no way I will bet for the former for an obvious reason. But honestly, even though I'm looking forward to Ancajas winning this match, I still see Martinez still has the upper hand in this fight.

That's why on the day of the match, I want Ancajas to go all-out and reclaim the title that he defend several times in his career.

If Ancajas meet the weight requirement without any problem, I can say his chance of winning is around 70% and up.  He is able to absorb Martinez punches, he has know Martinez fighting style and there are lots of available strategies to counter Martinez and they are not that difficult to implement.
If Ancajas is in full condition, I would think that he has more chance of beating Martinez than the other way around. 


Of course, Ancajas will be labeled the underdog here because he has lost to Martinez on their previous fight.  I would also love to see the odds having Ancajas to have a huge underdog label.  And yes it is a win - win situation for the supporters of Ancajas in terms of the bet.


I think getting the belt back is enough motivation for him since it means redeeming himself and establishing his reign again in the said division.  Nothing is more motivating than redeeming one self.

^ He might be a slight underdog, but for me it's better if he will be a huge underdog here, so that it's a win-win situation for Ancajas supporters in terms of bet  .

And maybe if he knows that he become the underdog here, it could added a extra motivation for him, some fuel to the fire and think that he really have to show up and be the champion again. A knock out win will be good. But if it doesn't come, and at the end of the fight he is declared the winner then nothing is going to affect on how we look at it. But it shouldn't be a boring fight (although Filipinos are not known to run, we are all warriors), and then we will see what will his next move is.

He might be the underdog now since Martinez manages to snatch the belt from him, and with how the fight turn to Martine favor we can anticipate that bookies will favor the current champ. A good advantage for all those believers to place their bets for Ancajas, he still young and still in his prime he just need to add more from his fighting style for him to beat Martinez.

If he will win, he can choose between moving up or another fight against Martinez, possibly a money fight for him if the trilogy takes place.

Though still depends on how they will perform if they will not be bore the fans, then possibly they will gain more support if another fight will need to take place.

That one too, Ancajas will not be overwhelmed this time against Martinez unlike in their first encounter because he doesn't have enough to prepare because of the last-minute changes and he was also struggling to shrink his weight. This time, Ancajas already knew how the latter moves and what are his techniques in his sleeve. Surely Martinez is a heavy puncher but Ancajas can just absorb it like what he did in their first encounter and that's a huge advantage.

I get that Ancajas chance is only 50%-60% because Martinez is also aggressive and knows his way how to control the fight, the main disadvantage of Ancajas that time is he is not on his 100% because of his situation and that made him so fatigue, and Martinez took advantage of it. That situation could be avoided but I think his camp didn't know what to do that's why it's good for him that he have his own nutritionist now. He only needed to meet the weight needed because after that I know he can defeat Martinez, dominantly.

On the betting side, I think Ancajas will be the underdog this time, so if that is the case then that will be an advantage for us.

I guess he will be the one making an upset if he beat the champion, for sure Bookies will not anymore list him as the favorite although he was the heavy favorite on their first fight. The pressure is on both fighters as people still think that Ancajas can return to being a champion, while Martinez here will try to prove that he deserves to hold the belt and Ancajas was just making an excuse.

He already joined the list when he lost his belt to Martinez already, he has been holding it for many years, defend it against many good boxers. Unfortunately, not taking anything from Martinez, but the weight issue really took a big toll on him resulting in an upset.

However, if he do not do any adjustment as far as his weight issues then he will definitely join the list for this year. For sure there, could be feeling of pressure on him to get back his title against a confident Martinez.

It is true Ancajas has a great fight and I am sure that his preparation is very good based on a diet so that he can maintain his weight, this means that he has to adjust himself so as not to overdo it, currently this is costing him a lot, I do not know if it is because the anxiety he has, but I think Ancajas has a very good performance due to the amount of hard training he has given, it is obvious that they want to speculate, some say that Ancajas wants to move to a higher weight category, I really do not I think, to move to a category unless he is not a boxing genius, it is better to move with more restraint, he is not used to a weight that he does not handle.




I see that many people have a unique faith in Ancajas, and yes, the boxer is very good, but I think that not everything can be hit, some statistics are favoring him and I think that is something that the masses feel, but there is something that I have always tried to emphasize, Martinez is a boxer who wants to win many things, even a lot of money, and he is not used to fame and if he wins this fight he will not only show it but he will like it and defend that misplaced feeling, so that Martinez can't take him as a somewhat timid boxer or as a boxer who can be an object of losing, there are many possibilities that he has to win.

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Here is a very interesting video and article by "Puma" Martinez, where he himself promises to take the title to Argentina and go to the Bombonera, the only thing is that the video is in Spanish, but the video is titled "El Puma Martinez ready for the revenge" and there is an article there where he talks about what he said, I share it with you, the only thing is that it is in Spanish, I looked for it a lot but I couldn't find it in English.



Source: https://www.espn.com.ar/boxeo/nota/_/id/10981802/puma-martinez-campeon-supermosca-ibf-revancha-jerwin-ancajas-octubre-sueno-la-bombonera-defender-titulo

The cougar has a lot of confidence in himself, this with the Filipino will become very good, this fight promises.

And that i what Ancajas need if he wanted to win this rematch he need to throw solid combinations that will allow him to shake Martinez if same thing happen and Martinez dictates the tempo and have that good dominance, it will be a one-way fight that will favor Martinez, there are lots of adjustment aside from being healthy and maintain the target/required weight.

Though we can speculate but the outcome will depend on how both fighters deliver and execute their plan to beat each other.

It will be different take from different gamblers, own analysis and perceptions between these two fighters.

Yes absolutely they are now preparing as we all know that ancajas need to beat Martinez because this is his second chance and for sure in this time jerwin ancajas have an advantages in this match because he has a good adjustment how he counter the punches in short he need to develop a new effective strategy in order to loss. Speed and power ancajas have so without a doubt a big chance of winning is weaving.

In-terms of strength and power, there's no doubt and I think it's not even arguable that Ancajas have that advantage. Martinez is a decent boxer but Ancajas do much better than that and we saw that Ancajas can absorb that. The only thing that separates them is Ancajas's current situation, we can argue about their power, speed and all but if Ancajas will still struggle, all these things are meaningless because a fight won't happen.

This year alone, we have witnessed plenty upsets and some of that is weight issues, I surely hope that Ancajas won't join that list.

If that's going to happen then the majority of us will celebrate, but the way I see in their past fight, Ancajas was struggling against a more aggressive fighter, it was Martinez who dictated the tempo, and the good thing for him is that he can take the punches of Ancajas, there was no killer punch from Ancajas in that fight, and worst is he got exhausted.

He still has a chance to win though if we are going to factor that he is weight drain in their first fight and if he just healthy, he could have secure a unanimous decision.

Now, barring all excuses, and assuming that Jerwin will come in healthy 100%, no problem with the weight whatsoever, then maybe he will going to beat Martinez as expected by the majority here.

He is actually the better fighter already because he is the champion, Ancajas is just trying again hoping he can beat a stronger Martinez, and though I'm optimistic that Ancajas will win, but I believe it's going to be very difficult for him beating Martinez. Well, it's time for him to prove that his excuse is valid, and that is by winning here.

Yes, if he losses again then we can say that Martinez is the better fighter and has every right to end Ancajas reign as of the longest super-flyweight. But if he win by a dominating fashion, then he is back and the first win by Martinez could be considered as a fluke. And the best thing for Jerwin is maybe go up, nothing for him to proved because he has been a champion in this division for many years already.

Let's see if he can prove to the world that he is the better fighter, it's hard to just speculate, we should give respect to the winner, yes, Ancajas may have struggle maintaining the weight but there's nothing to be blame of, but himself and it's not a valid excuse.

Right, and hopefully the new nutritionist knows how to work with boxers, because this is not a ordinary client. It will take a lot of knowledge of her to bring Ancajas to his best shape in the super flyweight that Jerwin reign for many years.


Both will sure make adjustments on the fight. And even a weight drain Ancajas can absorb Martinez best punch, what's more if Jerwin is in his best shape and no issues with weight? It could be a different outcome. And so this is what we are expecting from him in this fight. Bring the fight to Martinez and be a banger, the style that he is known for.

I agree though that if only Ancajas is not overtrained during that fight and he is in good condition, he can absorb all the punches that Martinez will throw no matter how strong it is. Just look at him being able to finish the whole 12 rounds even struggling and not in his usual condition.

However, we can't hide the fact that Martinez is also good. He surely knows that Ancajas is now working on maintaining his good shape that's why I'm expecting him to also do some adjustments like what Ancajas is preparing right now.