Topic: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 - page 9. (Read 3590 times)

Right, a good example is AJ, who can't seem to accept his 2nd lost to Usyk and had tantrums when the winner was announced. So Ancajas and his team who wants the rematch, so they have to win this fight with no excuses. I think we have discussed that his weight is the biggest issues on him right now, similar to what happen to Casimero. But Ancajas case is different, there is something wrong during this cut that he wasn't able to adapt. Weight cut in one thing, but after the weigh-in, boxers need to replenish their body and based on the article this is where they made the mistake.

Weight cutting is a huge issue when a boxer is rushing to make his weight pass the weight limit.  It is one of the major reasons why boxers lose.  Pacquiao's early losses is due to him rushing to make his weight pass the weight limit but failed.  And most of the catch-weight fight of Manny Pacquiao had him dominate the fight because his opponent is fighting at a weight limit they are not comfortable with.  I honestly agree with this article[1] even though I am a Pacquiao fan.

So do not say that weight issue isn't that big.  I just hope that Ancajas nutritionist do their job well.

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[1] https://bleacherreport.com/articles/425006-manny-pacquiao-world-title-fights-should-never-be-at-a-catch-weight

You are right, if he losses again, there's no reason for him to stay if he will still have the same excuse but it's nice if he will not just make an excuse and just accept his defeat. We know boxers love to make an excuse but losing twice, I think it's pretty much convincing that Martinez is just the better fighter that deserves to be a champ.

That is the kind of question that only Ancajas and his team are capable to answer that for us, Jerwin may had some lapses that's why he struggled to meet the required weight but he looked tired after that which might gave Martinez an advantage while Jerwin was having some troubles.

Anyway, they need to fix that issue as soon as possible if they still want Jerwin to have some fights in his comfortable division because he is the last hope of the Philippines for now. And also, he is quite young to have his dreams shattered early, I believe that he can still make it and might see a trilogy after this.

^ There is really something wrong with Jerwin in that fight against Martinez. It's not that he change his style and decided to be a brawler, I'm not saying that it's an excuse, but perhaps the weight as they have confirmed already is the biggest factor for their lost. Now, they have the rematch at hand, they know what they did wrong in the first fight. So it's either Jerwin win convincingly so that it won't cast any doubt, or if he losses again, there should be no excuses. And the next fight should be in the higher weight for Jerwin.

Not sure if we are to blame that we are talking about the weight issues. Someone has brokered it to the media, maybe it was part of his team that tell is, or it was Jerwin who told it. So I would say that they started it.  You can read it here:


https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/3/1/22956544/jerwin-ancajas-moving-bantamweight-upset-loss-fernando-martinez-boxing-news-2022

So the issue is real and they have to look for ways that it won't happen in the rematch. So whether he can make the weight or not, we will see. And if he ever make the weight, can he rehydrate on time, that is the big question.

What I mean is while he's maintaining his weight with his diet, doing some extra and sparring to enhance his fighting skills may help him in winning this rematch, I remember the first fight where he got an issue with his weight might be possible that the camp focus in meeting the required weight and they've might lack of trainings and sparrings.

Though we never know if it's just an excuse or he really struggles but now that he's been grant for another try, he needed to bring everything here.

This fight will bring big impact in his future career, very important to keep his chance to make more money from this industry.

It's also the role of his team to determine and notice the problem in his performance and fix where it's coming from. If it's connected to his health issue, then they should help him improve and reach the weight requirement for him to perform better. Every single detail that affects his performance needs to be fixed as early as possible.

Maybe it's because of him really trying to lose that extra weight that why he became tired easily in this fight? Boxers really complained that if the weight is their issue, then most likely it will affect their performances.

But then again, they've seen what the problems are in the first fight, and should do the right corrective actions whether it was really the weight or Ancajas getting tired, or if he is overtrain. They have the tapes to review and make the necessary adjustment in order to win in this rematch.

With enough preparation, I think Ancajas will perform better in this fight and hopefully, he will win and get that championship belt again. He is still young, was once a champion, so definitely he can still be a champion again. We need to see a the new betting odds, the odds that are available now are the old odds, the odds on their first fight.

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/2021/04/10/jerwin-ancajas-vs-jonathan-javier-rodriguez-fight-odds-picks-and-prediction/

We make it a big issue and yet Ancajas can still make it to the weight requirement. I think what Ancajas has to focus is to improve his stamina, it's not the weight that is the problem but his Ancajas because if he gets tired easily, he will lose his power in the later rounds, and that's what happened in their first meeting.

Regarding the weight issues, yes it is difficult to maintain it, specially if your body is growing and can't adapt to your supposedly weight categories. That's why there are different type of weight classes, so that boxer can fit where they height and body will go. Then go up another notch like what Manny did during his prime and beating large fighters. So for Jerwn, and it the news is true that he can't make the weight properly then it will be a very dangerous fight for him and most likely he might lost again. But if his team are good at working with him round the clock to check how his body is losing that weight, and not body mass, and then still retain his power at absolute peak prior to the fight then they do a good job and most likely Ancajas will have his revenge.

Well this is important, nutrition is very good but you have to concentrate a lot on physical resistance, of course you can't neglect the anaerobic part which is strength, because you can have a lot of resistance but if you can't take the blows and you neglect the part of strength that is much more dangerous than not having resistance, normally the boxers who have this type of deficiency are the ones who seek to knockout at first, and they seek it with great intensity until they do not leave everything in the ring, when they do not find it the Things are more difficult for them, because it means that the other boxer endured and that all the wear and tear was done by the one who was looking for a knockout, so things in boxing can turn around very quickly.


Casimero has a lot of responsibility in what he did, really a boxer who allows himself to gain weight in an uncontrolled way and that his team has given him the confidence so that later he goes out and does not comply is something that is unforgivable, it seems very good to me that if he does not ucmple then don't give him his pay, in part this is being more professional and for me in my personal opinion a boxer of the style and of that talent should always work on his ability because it is the only way to be able to ensure victory, there is no other way Obviously Martinez is keen to win to keep his doors open and in fact his training has been quite strong.


Sometimes it is very difficult to do things to maintain a weight, in part there are times when doctors must determine how everything should be executed, training to lose weight is also a great option, for example, to lose weight I do not need to do any diet , I can eat like never before, but training has a lot of influence only when it's focused on cardio, or doing a little crossfit, that's enough for me, but of course it's my system, and if I follow a type of diet it's worse because I run out of energy to resist training, then this is something to keep in mind, each person has a different organism.

Weight can only be maintain in diet, not doing extra training an sparring. On the contrary if might hurt him a bit if he go to far with it. His trainer should know when his boxer will hit his peak and enough to be 100% in the actual fight. Not being 100% prior to the fight because on the day itself he might lose some of his physically strength because he overtrain. At least that's why I heard from Roach before, when he trains Manny, they needed at least 8 weeks for fight preparation.

Casimero has no one to blame because he himself is already guilty about why he reached that stage, he knows that he has some issues with his weight so he should've prepared for that much earlier after he was declared healthy by his team. Also, I agree that his team should also know their job well because without Casimero getting some fights that also means that they won't get paid.


Yes, that's the last opportunity for Casimero to get a fight against Inoue if both of them will climb the next weight class.

Yes, I think that a boxer must correct everything that is necessary so that he can improve, especially when things are done like changing the style of fighting and training, since he is a boxer who marries a lot, he must combine more resistance and strength so that I have how to resist more his own effort and blows that he receives, because each of these things consumes energy, he also has to have a very good hydration in his muscles, so his training must subject his body to great stress so that he resists it , this is something that every boxer has to undergo in every fight he is going to have.


Yes, it is as you say, at this point there should no longer be any type of weight problems on the part of Ancanas, it is known that he hired a physical trainer who will not let him lose weight or in training, this is something that he does not can fail again, it is also necessary to point out that there is a possibility that Martinez starts with the idea of achieving a knockout to win quickly, then Ancajas' training must be very comprehensive, because he can prepare himself to have resistance even for the 12 rounds, but also have the stamina in the first few rounds just in case they attempt a knockout.


It is like this, what happens is that Martinez has a great need to win, and Ancajas wants to have rematches and position himself as one of the best in this category, or wants to have to go through more bad times, I think that this fight by Martinez will have many nuances, I don't know how he can come out, if he has the need to win, he could try to get a knockout, but Ancajas knows very well what is coming and has already prepared, and I think he has been doing it for a long time, this fight will be one of the best that 2022 will have, apart from the fight that is expected very soon between Canelo and GGG, this is highly anticipated, I still wouldn't know who to bet on.

If Martinez wants to maintain the hypes in his career, winning is the only option, while in the other side it's also what Ancajas trying t achieved bringing back his belt and a possible to move up and challenge much bigger fighters in the next division. I like that idea if both fighters are doing everything to have that edge over another, the winner here most likely will be the fans that will enjoy the fight inside the ring.



He needs to maintain his weight while doing extra trainings and sparrings, if he wanted to win over Martinez he needs to condition and make sure that he really prepared both physically and mentally, he's still young and if the goal is to win more titles or have a much better life like Pacquiao and Donaire, he needs to win this fight and reclaimed his belt.

^ Last time I checked the odds are still not listed on our favorite crypto sport bookies.

And like fights that are lesser known, or like the first one, the odds were just released days before the fight itself, so I'm expecting the same. Nevertheless, the fight is just less than a month, and I'm speculating that training for both camps are in full swing and hopefully Ancajas weight issues could have been approached differently by his camps in this rematch so that there will be no excuses, win or lose on his side.

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I'm sure he will not quit boxing, he is still a good contender, he just has to continue working out to prepare for his next fight.

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About the fight of Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas, are the betting odds already available?

It's been a while that we are not hearing from him, maybe he is just preparing for a big fight in his comeback, not a championship fight but everytime he is in the ring, it's always entertaining as long as his opponent is willing to fight. He should move on from his mistake, he cannot go back in bantamweight again as he cannot control his weight, so it's time for him to move on by moving up.