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Wilder is a sore loser, he would always make an excuse for his losses, accusing of Fury cheating when there's no evidence about it. Wilder is done in this fight saga with Fury but he can continue with his career, go back to the gym, make himself condition again, and try knocking down opponents if he is given an opportunity to fight again.
I was also expecting Wilder to come out with a bunch of excuses and even the media was starting to come out with the delayed count and so on which is bullshit, especially Daniel Cormier who said that the referee gave Tyson Fury too much time to recover which is bullshit, it is not a ten second count, it is ten count and the referee will stop the count if the opponent is not in neutral corner and that is what happened.

Another positive aspect is that i have seen Wilder making a social media post congratulating Fury for the win and it was refreshing to see .
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And what about "Wilder's wild theories" about Fury being a dope cheater? Why didn't you mention this? Maybe because Fury has a big doping background and this topic is very unpleasant for him?
I don't blame Fury for doping in recent fights, but when I see how he can take crushing blows, such suspicions creep in.
Well the famous Sagan standard which states that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” should apply here, we know that cheating happens in any sport, and it can happen at the highest spheres of it, just take a look at what happened with Lance Armstrong, so if Wilder has any evidence that is the case then he should show it and let the boxing associations deal with this, and if not then there is no point arguing the point.

If you're talking about doping, then Fury got caught on it long before he met Wilder. Haven't you heard of this? He was even disqualified and if I remember correctly the result of the fight with Klitschko was canceled. Another thing is that later through the courts it was canceled back and Fury received almost a pardon due to the fact that he allegedly did not use doping, but only ate boar meat that he ate doping!  Grin
Great explanation, isn't it? Even better than "the dog ate my homework".
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I think that Wilders boxing carrier is finished but there will always be a place in some circus for him and his wild excuses theories, like cheating with gloves or with his ex team members.
Fury didn't win because he was leaning on him but because he knocked him out and he dived with his nose on ground.

And what about "Wilder's wild theories" about Fury being a dope cheater? Why didn't you mention this? Maybe because Fury has a big doping background and this topic is very unpleasant for him?
I don't blame Fury for doping in recent fights, but when I see how he can take crushing blows, such suspicions creep in.
Well the famous Sagan standard which states that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” should apply here, we know that cheating happens in any sport, and it can happen at the highest spheres of it, just take a look at what happened with Lance Armstrong, so if Wilder has any evidence that is the case then he should show it and let the boxing associations deal with this, and if not then there is no point arguing the point.
Wilder is a sore loser, he would always make an excuse for his losses, accusing of Fury cheating when there's no evidence about it. Wilder is done in this fight saga with Fury but he can continue with his career, go back to the gym, make himself condition again, and try knocking down opponents if he is given an opportunity to fight again.
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I think that Wilders boxing carrier is finished but there will always be a place in some circus for him and his wild excuses theories, like cheating with gloves or with his ex team members.
Fury didn't win because he was leaning on him but because he knocked him out and he dived with his nose on ground.

And what about "Wilder's wild theories" about Fury being a dope cheater? Why didn't you mention this? Maybe because Fury has a big doping background and this topic is very unpleasant for him?
I don't blame Fury for doping in recent fights, but when I see how he can take crushing blows, such suspicions creep in.
Well the famous Sagan standard which states that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” should apply here, we know that cheating happens in any sport, and it can happen at the highest spheres of it, just take a look at what happened with Lance Armstrong, so if Wilder has any evidence that is the case then he should show it and let the boxing associations deal with this, and if not then there is no point arguing the point.
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But we are seeing on this third fight that Wilder isn't that someone who had really lots of excuses after he lost this fight because now he had really admitted that he did his best but still Fury is still better.

He accepted his defeat and that's should how sportsmanship works on where you do accept loss and I don't see any possibility of 4th fight same as yours because it had already been concluded
Have you seen any of the reporters making excuses that Tyson Fury was given more time to get up in the 4th round and Wilder injured his right hand well before the fight and so on. They will not accept defeat fair and square and that is what they are and the Wilder team has not come up with excuses but expect them to come up with excuses in a few weeks.
I wasn't aware of that and didn't notice on the boxing ring but did make out some research and turns out that it was true.
https://www.givemesport.com/1766269-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-boxing-fans-claim-slow-count-after-gypsy-king-r4-knockdown

Based up on observations it was really bit slow which I wont be surprised that sooner or later they would really make this as an issue
and would ask out for another fight? lol

That's only an excuse, the referee's count does not always go based on the clock, just let it go and give Fury some respect for retaining his belt. Wilder is the challenger, he should KO Fury so there's no more controversy but he was not able to do it, so he deserves to lose. No more 4th fight, Fury deserves to fight a better fighter that could give him a tough fight, I'm sure he would see it in time.
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This thread will soon be close but I want this video included in this thread majority of those who watched and that includes me considered this as the greatest fight of this generation, it's a trilogy that will be watch over and over again by the boxing community in this generation and the generation to come, it's not only Fury that wins here but the whole boxing community, everything are all here, bloodbath, exchange of words accusations, knockdowns, name it, this third match has it all.

Top personalities consider as one of the best fights in the heavyweight division

Behind the Scenes as Tyson Fury Knocks Out Wilder in 2021 Fight of the Year | REAL TIME EPILOGUE
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But we are seeing on this third fight that Wilder isn't that someone who had really lots of excuses after he lost this fight because now he had really admitted that he did his best but still Fury is still better.

He accepted his defeat and that's should how sportsmanship works on where you do accept loss and I don't see any possibility of 4th fight same as yours because it had already been concluded
Have you seen any of the reporters making excuses that Tyson Fury was given more time to get up in the 4th round and Wilder injured his right hand well before the fight and so on. They will not accept defeat fair and square and that is what they are and the Wilder team has not come up with excuses but expect them to come up with excuses in a few weeks.
I wasn't aware of that and didn't notice on the boxing ring but did make out some research and turns out that it was true.
https://www.givemesport.com/1766269-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-boxing-fans-claim-slow-count-after-gypsy-king-r4-knockdown

Based up on observations it was really bit slow which I wont be surprised that sooner or later they would really make this as an issue
and would ask out for another fight? lol
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But we are seeing on this third fight that Wilder isn't that someone who had really lots of excuses after he lost this fight because now he had really admitted that he did his best but still Fury is still better.

He accepted his defeat and that's should how sportsmanship works on where you do accept loss and I don't see any possibility of 4th fight same as yours because it had already been concluded
Have you seen any of the reporters making excuses that Tyson Fury was given more time to get up in the 4th round and Wilder injured his right hand well before the fight and so on. They will not accept defeat fair and square and that is what they are and the Wilder team has not come up with excuses but expect them to come up with excuses in a few weeks.
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Does anyone think there will be a 4th match for these two fighters? the last match was great but I don't think that Wilder accepted his defeat I think there are some allegations that Wilder ask to open up the gloves of Fury which I think is ridiculous.

I don't think that we will see a 4th fight between them if i remember correctly then Wilder already had to use his laywers to make that third fight happen because Fury was planning to fight against Joshua as far as i know. I also think that boxing fans would also not be to thrilled to see the same fight for the 4th time in a row, at least that is true for me. It became obvious in all three fights that Fury is the far superior boxer in terms of technical skills and that Wilder has the hardest punch of all active boxers but that is pretty much it.
I also think that the allegations of Wilder are pretty ridiculous and that he will regret that he makes those allegations and also his ridiculous excuse about his to heavy costume in the second fight.
But we are seeing on this third fight that Wilder isn't that someone who had really lots of excuses after he lost this fight because now he had really admitted that he did his best but still Fury is still better.

He accepted his defeat and that's should how sportsmanship works on where you do accept loss and I don't see any possibility of 4th fight same as yours because it had already been concluded

with this recent fight that Wilder cant beat up Fury.So lets move into this one and this thread should be locked already since its already over.
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Does anyone think there will be a 4th match for these two fighters? the last match was great but I don't think that Wilder accepted his defeat I think there are some allegations that Wilder ask to open up the gloves of Fury which I think is ridiculous.

I don't think that we will see a 4th fight between them if i remember correctly then Wilder already had to use his laywers to make that third fight happen because Fury was planning to fight against Joshua as far as i know. I also think that boxing fans would also not be to thrilled to see the same fight for the 4th time in a row, at least that is true for me. It became obvious in all three fights that Fury is the far superior boxer in terms of technical skills and that Wilder has the hardest punch of all active boxers but that is pretty much it.
I also think that the allegations of Wilder are pretty ridiculous and that he will regret that he makes those allegations and also his ridiculous excuse about his to heavy costume in the second fight.
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Does anyone think there will be a 4th match for these two fighters? the last match was great but I don't think that Wilder accepted his defeat I think there are some allegations that Wilder ask to open up the gloves of Fury which I think is ridiculous.
It could happen if they want to, but I don't think it's still necessary knowing how convincing the win of Fury in that fight, usually a Trilogy is to end the saga between two fighters, and since it's very convincing that Fury won since he KO Wilder, so there's no 4th fight anymore.
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Does anyone think there will be a 4th match for these two fighters? the last match was great but I don't think that Wilder accepted his defeat I think there are some allegations that Wilder ask to open up the gloves of Fury which I think is ridiculous.
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One of the best fight I've watched, it's a really a roller coaster. One round Wilder is down then another round Fury is down and I don't think that the match will end in around 5-6 rounds. Both fighters shows good skill but Fury really do managed to hit him directly and ended the match, the interview after the match about what Wilder said to Fury is unprofessional and shows unsportsmanship.
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Wilder vs Joshua would be a good fight to watch but inevitably Wilder would win. I think he would KO Joshua within 5 rounds.

I hope Wilder recovers from his injuries, he proved many of us wrong because he fought valiantly against a brilliant Fury but ultimately it was only going to be Fury that won. Wilder did well in that fight, he should take pride in the way he tried to take the fight on the front foot unlike what he did in the second fight.

Fully agree with your forecast. Even after being defeated by Fury, Wilder looks like the undisputed number 2 heavyweight title right now. It's hard for me to imagine any scenario in which he loses to Joshua or Usyk or any other boxer. This is probably only possible due to some kind of illness that weakens Wilder or the lucky punch. By the way, due to the general uncertainty that Wilder will fully recover and that he will continue his career, the odds for his next fight, I think, will be attractive (Wilder will be underestimated).
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That fight if it will happen will be a good fight, Wilder does not need to find a way to still fight Fury, he just has to accept the fact that he cannot dominate in the heavyweight division, and if he fought AJ who will be a champion again if lucky in a rematch, then that would be a big success on his part.

Even how good we are, there's always better than us and even Fury who is the best now in the heavyweight, time will come that his undefeated record will not be 0 anymore.

Wilder vs Joshua would be a good fight to watch but inevitably Wilder would win. I think he would KO Joshua within 5 rounds.

I hope Wilder recovers from his injuries, he proved many of us wrong because he fought valiantly against a brilliant Fury but ultimately it was only going to be Fury that won. Wilder did well in that fight, he should take pride in the way he tried to take the fight on the front foot unlike what he did in the second fight.



Again, to bring back his confidence, he should fight b-level fighters knock them out. In that way, he can feel good about himself. The road might be long, but that's the only way he can bring back his mind to become a champion again.
Wilder is currently trying to recover his broken hands against fury a few days ago and in some media, wilder's coach said that if wilder is currently refusing to retire after breaking his hands and reportedly wilder will again target a comeback fight in May 2022 against Anthony Joshua, and of course if the fight can be realized of course he will be able to improve his career record after the defeat against fury.

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Again, to bring back his confidence, he should fight b-level fighters knock them out. In that way, he can feel good about himself. The road might be long, but that's the only way he can bring back his mind to become a champion again.
Wilder is currently trying to recover his broken hands against fury a few days ago and in some media, wilder's coach said that if wilder is currently refusing to retire after breaking his hands and reportedly wilder will again target a comeback fight in May 2022 against Anthony Joshua, and of course if the fight can be realized of course he will be able to improve his career record after the defeat against fury.

Oh i didnt expect that he ending up with broken hands against fighting with Fury but well this man do still deserve some respect yet he did really give out that outstanding performance against Fury even though
he do lost up but at least he do try his best and didnt really make out any excuses after the fight and instead he do say about future plans about fighting AJ to rebuilt up his career
which is really a good plan to be have.

Of course, even the former heavyweight are giving respect to Wilder to giving everything in the ring and the fight is considered one of the best fights we have in the HW division. Unfortunately, he has lost, and had a lot of injuries in his hands and he needs time to heal them, not just his body but his mind as well and try to go back to the drawing boards with his coach. He seems he improved a lot, it's just that the added weight on him become an issue as the fight progresses. Remember that this is the biggest he got in the trilogy and maybe in his career.

Let him rest first and then see what will be the landscape of the division in 2022. Maybe AJ can get back his belt, maybe Fury will face his mandatory. Still a lot of options if he doesn't want to retire yet.
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Wilder vs Joshua would be a good fight to watch but inevitably Wilder would win. I think he would KO Joshua within 5 rounds.

I hope Wilder recovers from his injuries, he proved many of us wrong because he fought valiantly against a brilliant Fury but ultimately it was only going to be Fury that won. Wilder did well in that fight, he should take pride in the way he tried to take the fight on the front foot unlike what he did in the second fight.



Again, to bring back his confidence, he should fight b-level fighters knock them out. In that way, he can feel good about himself. The road might be long, but that's the only way he can bring back his mind to become a champion again.
Wilder is currently trying to recover his broken hands against fury a few days ago and in some media, wilder's coach said that if wilder is currently refusing to retire after breaking his hands and reportedly wilder will again target a comeback fight in May 2022 against Anthony Joshua, and of course if the fight can be realized of course he will be able to improve his career record after the defeat against fury.

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We wouldnt able to tell on what are those possible effects but its true that implications do really always come in last which means it is unknown until it would come out and would be known publicly about health conditions which is something a very common issue into aging boxers or to those who had retired.

This is one of the cons or something to be paid up after all the years that theyve been doing boxing or sticking into this career but well its their choice to make though and its their body to be handled.

I agree into that words about respect on which Wilder did really accepted his defeat and didnt say any bullshit reasoning just like on what he had done in the past.
It isn't just boxers, but it's a sport wide concern at the moment. More research needs to be done, and there isn't a lot of concrete evidence out there currently, at least not that I'm aware of. However, I know those that regulate football competitions have come under pressure to prevent heading the ball recently, I think that's probably a little too extreme of a restriction, but I can see why boxing, MMA, and high impact sports are detrimental to the athletes health. Well, we know that boxers have had brain damage, and various permanent damage done, so it's definitely an issue.

Getting knocked out isn't really a natural thing either, Yeah our body knows how to cope with it, and switches off our conscious mind, but it's still working in the background keeping everything in check. So, getting knocked out while not really a natural or expected thing doesn't always mean there's permanent damage being done, however Wilder in the second, and this recent fight took a lot of damage.

I respect the man for taking a beaten, because that's practically what it was outside his two knockdowns, but he probably did himself more harm than good by staying on his feet so long. If he had woken up in time, and could stand I think he would have tried to get up from the knockout blow too if the ref gave him the chance.
For sure Wilder would have the time to get up on that 3rd knockdown but we know that there's a 3KO rule which signifies that the fight is over and the referree had seen that Wilder is actually hurt that bad on that last

knockdown on just seeing the position or action on how he fall then you could actually say its over even though it wasnt the 3rd and im pretty sure that referee would still end up on having that decision on stopping the match.

They do have the full decision whether if it would be resumed or not as long it didnt hit the KO threshold.
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We wouldnt able to tell on what are those possible effects but its true that implications do really always come in last which means it is unknown until it would come out and would be known publicly about health conditions which is something a very common issue into aging boxers or to those who had retired.

This is one of the cons or something to be paid up after all the years that theyve been doing boxing or sticking into this career but well its their choice to make though and its their body to be handled.

I agree into that words about respect on which Wilder did really accepted his defeat and didnt say any bullshit reasoning just like on what he had done in the past.
It isn't just boxers, but it's a sport wide concern at the moment. More research needs to be done, and there isn't a lot of concrete evidence out there currently, at least not that I'm aware of. However, I know those that regulate football competitions have come under pressure to prevent heading the ball recently, I think that's probably a little too extreme of a restriction, but I can see why boxing, MMA, and high impact sports are detrimental to the athletes health. Well, we know that boxers have had brain damage, and various permanent damage done, so it's definitely an issue.

Getting knocked out isn't really a natural thing either, Yeah our body knows how to cope with it, and switches off our conscious mind, but it's still working in the background keeping everything in check. So, getting knocked out while not really a natural or expected thing doesn't always mean there's permanent damage being done, however Wilder in the second, and this recent fight took a lot of damage.

I respect the man for taking a beaten, because that's practically what it was outside his two knockdowns, but he probably did himself more harm than good by staying on his feet so long. If he had woken up in time, and could stand I think he would have tried to get up from the knockout blow too if the ref gave him the chance.
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Oh i didnt expect that he ending up with broken hands against fighting with Fury but well this man do still deserve some respect yet he did really give out that outstanding performance against Fury even though
he do lost up but at least he do try his best and didnt really make out any excuses after the fight and instead he do say about future plans about fighting AJ to rebuilt up his career
which is really a good plan to be have.
He has my respect for this fight. I don't think anyone had respect for him with all the excuses he came out with last time though, and as long as he doesn't do that he'll continue to have my respect. Although, he's the older of the heavyweights I believe, and he's likely going to retire before most of them not only because of that, but because he's taken some serious damage in two of the fights of the trilogy with Fury. That isn't going to go down well the older that he gets, and I'm hoping there isn't any lasting effects.

Although, we've see in the past that boxing in particular is quite hard on the boxers health the older they get, the great Ali had parkinsons, and while it might not be directly linked with getting hit in the head, you'd probably think it did have at least some influence in it.
We wouldnt able to tell on what are those possible effects but its true that implications do really always come in last which means it is unknown until it would come out and would be known publicly about health conditions which is something a very common issue into aging boxers or to those who had retired.

This is one of the cons or something to be paid up after all the years that theyve been doing boxing or sticking into this career but well its their choice to make though and its their body to be handled.

I agree into that words about respect on which Wilder did really accepted his defeat and didnt say any bullshit reasoning just like on what he had done in the past.
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