Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 2. (Read 6756 times)

He has my respect for this fight. I don't think anyone had respect for him with all the excuses he came out with last time though, and as long as he doesn't do that he'll continue to have my respect. Although, he's the older of the heavyweights I believe, and he's likely going to retire before most of them not only because of that, but because he's taken some serious damage in two of the fights of the trilogy with Fury. That isn't going to go down well the older that he gets, and I'm hoping there isn't any lasting effects.

Although, we've see in the past that boxing in particular is quite hard on the boxers health the older they get, the great Ali had parkinsons, and while it might not be directly linked with getting hit in the head, you'd probably think it did have at least some influence in it.

Oh i didnt expect that he ending up with broken hands against fighting with Fury but well this man do still deserve some respect yet he did really give out that outstanding performance against Fury even though
he do lost up but at least he do try his best and didnt really make out any excuses after the fight and instead he do say about future plans about fighting AJ to rebuilt up his career
which is really a good plan to be have.

Wilder is currently trying to recover his broken hands against fury a few days ago and in some media, wilder's coach said that if wilder is currently refusing to retire after breaking his hands and reportedly wilder will again target a comeback fight in May 2022 against Anthony Joshua, and of course if the fight can be realized of course he will be able to improve his career record after the defeat against fury.

And what about "Wilder's wild theories" about Fury being a dope cheater? Why didn't you mention this? Maybe because Fury has a big doping background and this topic is very unpleasant for him?
I don't blame Fury for doping in recent fights, but when I see how he can take crushing blows, such suspicions creep in.

Just read latest excuse - when he send Fury into a knockdown, ref counted very slowly and saved Fury. Lol. Wilde should watch replay and count how many times ref saved him.

I dont think that Wilder would retire right now. He will fix his mental condition snd continue to fight for more 2-5 years. Take Mike Tyson for example. After two straight losses to Holyfield, he continued to knock people out.

I think that Wilders boxing carrier is finished but there will always be a place in some circus for him and his wild excuses theories, like cheating with gloves or with his ex team members.
Fury didn't win because he was leaning on him but because he knocked him out and he dived with his nose on ground.

Good to see that the had those kind of comments or accept of defeat with that recent sentences that he do say which it is much better rather than on saying out some bullshit reasons just like on what he did in the past.

You could really see that Wilder did really give his best but there would be always a better boxer that him and he had already accepted that on himself which he cant really say up those words if he didnt realize
or stayed up on being a cry baby.

He still one of the best though but Fury is always better than him and he had already accepted.

I think the injury is not that serious though, it will heal in time but what's more important is that his emotional wounds to heal as he would never come back on the winning track again if he still allows himself to be tied with his loss on Fury. He has to move on and accept and he can never beat Fury, but he can still fight other fighters that would help him continue to grow his finances in boxing and cement his legacy as well.

I read that he has injured his hands, or somewhat of a broken knuckles, ouch, maybe he injured it when he knocks down Fury. But he has a history as well with fragile hands. If I'm not mistaken, he has injured if in the first and second fight as well.

So he might as well not think about fighting for the time being, better let that heal for a while and then plan his strategy if ever he wants to comeback.

The simplest and most obvious scenario that comes to my mind is to fight any other boxer who is high enough in the ranking and of course to win him by knockout (as before he met Fury). After that, take a look at the result of the Joshua - Usyk 2 duel and if he succeeds in agreeing, then fight the loser (since the winner will apparently go to the fight with Fury). If by this moment Fury remains undefeated and Wilder shows good boxing and previous results (knockout victories), then I would not be surprised if he can reach an agreement on the Wilder - Fury 4 fight.

Wilder will be fine. He's still probably the second best heavyweight now and there's lots of options for him and he'll end up taking anyone Tyson turns down. I'm sure he will fight AJ at some point. A better question would be where does Tyson go after this? The next logical match would be to fight the winner of AJ/Usyk rematch but he might have to face Dillian Whyte as a mandatory but that should be a breeze for Fury. Whyte is going to struggle against his upcoming bout against Wallin. Maybe he should get that out of the way and AJ/Usyk do the same and then Fury fights the winner of those.


There doesn't seem to be any excuses there, in fact, he's admitting defeat and that he wasn't good enough. Whether he leaves it at that is another matter.


What gives you the idea that you speak for others or even all? That's laughable. You only speak for yourself. Most people seem to be saying the same things.


I don't respect anything you say especially the amount of nonsensical shitposting and conversations you've been forcing yourself into regarding things you know nothing about since you joined a signature campaign.


Discus game? That's a completely different sport and shouldn't be discussed here.

Everyone understands that there will be no fourth fight, at least in the next few years. If in the future Wilder can recover and defeat all rivals, then the situation may change. Fury will now be waiting for the outcome of the rematch between Joshua and Usyk in order to understand who will be his next opponent. Of course Fury wanted to box with Joshua, I think he could knock him out.

But now they can play in a very interesting plot: in the rematch Usyk again defeats Joshua, and Fury meets in fight with Usyk. It will be a fight between two fighters who have never lost.

There are reports were it was confirmed that Wilder has gotten a bone in his hand, fingers/knuckles broken from the fight, probably out of trying to ensure that he hits hard, and knocks Fury down, so definitely, he will have to be out and rest for a while for a full recuperation.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-hospital-broken-hand-tyson-fury-b959832.html%3famp

-Wilder still deserves some recognition, it is not easy to face an opponent that you know is a superb fighter like fury, and even after many direct punches, still was willing to see it through to the end. He really did his best as we saw a considerable improvement from the last fight, and even Fury could confirm that his punches were harder than before.  He is a strong boxer and even with his loss, i don't think many other boxers are in his category and can fight him.

Andy Ruiz has also made his intentions known of his interest to fight Fury for his WBC belt, not at the moment definitely, but after he has fully recovered from the surgery he underwent.
https://amp.tmz.com/2021/10/11/andy-ruiz-wants-tyson-fury-next-after-deontay-wilder-boxing-match/?adid=social-twa&__twitter_impression=true

There still many heavyweight fights he could fight. Right now his career will be all about money, because he should not hope to gain titles anymore.

He could fight Usyk and get WBO IBF and WBA belts, but next he will have to face Fury again. That will be an interesting scenario to sell, fans probably would love to see this fight also. Only Fury perhaps wont be interested.

The first thing Wilder should do is to have a good rest. He shouldn't be thinking about boxing for at least 5 months. He needs to recover. A lot. He's badly beaten emotionally. He needs to enjoy other things outside boxing. As soon as he gets back, he should have already accepted his defeats. Failing to accept them will only make him lose more.

Wilder's next fights shouldn't be title fights. But he's got a lot of choices. There's Joshua, Whyte, Pulev, Ruiz, and others.


Fury is a different class of fighter. Wilder still got his powerful right. He could still put other heavyweights to sleep with it. But it all depends on his recovery. If he continues to cry over his losses, he can't move on and start climbing back at the top once again.

That's the only way he can be a champion again, go on and fight other heavyweights and make a good impression that he can be fight as mandatory, otherwise his career is over. It might take a long time though for him to recover from this lost.


Again, to bring back his confidence, he should fight b-level fighters knock them out. In that way, he can feel good about himself. The road might be long, but that's the only way he can bring back his mind to become a champion again.

I wasn't particularly impressed by Fury. I'm used to seeing him moving, ducking, weaving, and feinting all night long, but he seemed quite stationary in this trilogy. Considering he knows the power of Deontay I was somewhat confused how he was willing to just sit there waiting to be hit, and it isn't like it didn't happen on the night, Wilder landed better shots this time around, than he did previously I think. Maybe, apart from the huge knockdown in the first fight. Though, this is the most wobbly I've seen Fury in his entire career, which is worrying.

It's either because Fury changed his style a little bit, and knew that he would have to go for bigger punches instead of outclassing Wilder technically, because of the first fight result, he knows that bias could well bite him in the ass a second time, thus he decides to go the route of slugging it with probably one of the biggest power punches in boxing history. It was a very risky game plan, and I can't say he executed it perfectly as he was clearly rocked, however he did win twice out of the two times he deployed it, and won via a finish each time, so I can't be overly critical.

Fury is the type of boxer that rises, and sinks to his opponents level. When he's challenged he changes up his style to what he thinks is the best way of winning, and up until this point in his career it has worked, though I can't say it was a comfortable watch, watching him fight fire with fire with minimal head movement. Actually, the only time he seemed to move his head was when Wilder was swinging big, and either connecting or missing marginally.

He'll continue fighting the sort of caliber he was fighting prior to Fury. Lets be honest, he absolutely did take a step up to Fury compared to his previous competition. Most of the bigger named fighters he previously fought were past their prime. Although, I'm not trying to discredit him, he's quite obviously a massive threat to anyone that steps in the ring with him.

He should move on and trying to patch those consecutive losses with another win and not from Fury which i do fully agree on at least able to save up his record and not to making looking bad on himself and also to his statistics.
If he would push it again for the fourth fight then he would really make himself look funny as he really pursue that he would able to beat up Fury.I could its almost but if he do able to last up that
long or simpyl didnt lost up his stamina then he might won that match.

It is just Fury's consistency and fighting spirit plus those good basic combinations did really make him won.

What do you think Wilder will do next to try to salvage his career now?

The only way he can fight for the heavyweight titles now is by becoming a mandatory challenger and that can only happen if he wins a couple of comeback fights.

Does Wilder even still have it in him to retain a high level of dedication now after Fury showed him over 3 fights exactly how inept he was when confronted with a superior colossal fighting machine (in Fury).

It will be another murder on the reputation of Wilder in boxing if he would ever fight Fury again, Imagine how his record would look like all the three losses will be coming from Fury and one draw against Fury which is controversial and he looks like he lost in that fight too.

This is over, don't expect a 4th fighter, better look for a possibility that Wilder will come back fighting another fighter who is not as good as Fury, maybe the loser of the AJ vs Usyk rematch.