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Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 50. (Read 6747 times)

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Do you think Wilder will retire if he loses again?

It will be devastated on Wilder's part if he loses, and might be contemplating retirement specially if he loss by another KO, Wilder already 34 years old, so maybe. However, he can still make money even after he losses, still a lot of options in the heavyweight division. The money will not big as compare if he has the belt, but still good money if he can command at least $500k - 1$ million per fight even after a loss to Fury.

Retiring is a personal decision but most boxers would not retire as long as they can still make money.
Look at Manny Pacman, he is already 41 years old and still fighting, he loss some fights in his career but that didn't make him stop.

Let's get real here, this people are still fighting for money, they'll retire when they can't sell anymore .

Right, still a lot of opportunity for him to face, Whyte, Ruiz Jr and still make money. Or even face Anthony Joshua, 60-40 split and make millions. Maybe he will just rest and reset and then fight another day.

He is not a damage good as well, the worst that we have seen him get bloodied is in the second fight. So I'm sure he still has a lot in his tank if ever he losses to Tyson Fury in the trilogy.
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Do you think Wilder will retire if he loses again?

It will be devastated on Wilder's part if he loses, and might be contemplating retirement specially if he loss by another KO, Wilder already 34 years old, so maybe. However, he can still make money even after he losses, still a lot of options in the heavyweight division. The money will not big as compare if he has the belt, but still good money if he can command at least $500k - 1$ million per fight even after a loss to Fury.

Retiring is a personal decision but most boxers would not retire as long as they can still make money.
Look at Manny Pacman, he is already 41 years old and still fighting, he loss some fights in his career but that didn't make him stop.

Let's get real here, this people are still fighting for money, they'll retire when they can't sell anymore .
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Do you think Wilder will retire if he loses again?

It will be devastated on Wilder's part if he loses, and might be contemplating retirement specially if he loss by another KO, Wilder already 34 years old, so maybe. However, he can still make money even after he losses, still a lot of options in the heavyweight division. The money will not big as compare if he has the belt, but still good money if he can command at least $500k - 1$ million per fight even after a loss to Fury.
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26 votes in the poll so far

19 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder


Do you think Wilder will retire if he loses again?
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The overwhelming majority are going for a Fury win in the third fight between these two.
What else can we expect, i do not see Wilder changing his style and come up with a technical oriented style to counter Tyson Fury, even in the next fight the big weapon is the big right hand of Wilder and if he is able to land that then he will win the fight and if not we are going to see the same result and i am surprised that Wilder initiated the rematch clause after getting dominated for majority of the fight in the first and the second encounter.
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In the Bitcointalk poll Fury is way ahead of Wilder to win the third fight.

How many more fights do we have to witness between these two legends. There should be end to it and the winner should be
accepted as a winner with open heart. I thought the fight 2 would be the last one, but we have to witness another great fight.

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Fury and Wilder's match is on everybody's day but I'd like to play a devils' advocate and I hope I am wrong what if the Coronavirus lingers on and reach July, there's a possibility that the match will not push through, or they can have it, without a live audiences is this possible like what I said I hope I'm wrong on this one.
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It's not like Wilder has no chance at all, but the likelihood is very slim. Lucky punch exists in boxing history but rarely happens. Who knows big swinging right cross from Wilder could land unexpectedly, and KO'd Fury. However, 11/4 odds for Wilder is not tempting for me considering all these above arguments.
The issue here is that is his only chance, if Wilder had more arguments and was a better fighter then you may have a point but Wilder only has one trick up his sleeve and that is his right hand, Fury was able to nullify that threat with the way he was boxing going always forward and giving no space to Wilder to unleash that right hand with all his power, that is why the fight was so widely dominated by Fury and unless that changes the chances of victory for Wilder are extremely low.
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It's not like Wilder has no chance at all, but the likelihood is very slim. Lucky punch exists in boxing history but rarely happens. Who knows big swinging right cross from Wilder could land unexpectedly, and KO'd Fury. However, 11/4 odds for Wilder is not tempting for me considering all these above arguments.
Thats totally correct cause right swing right cross could do an unexpected during the trilogy fight of Wilder and Fury just like we saw during Anthony and Ruiz first fight. However, the two fighters are rivals and what i strongly believe is that if Wilder request for a quick rematch he's definitely up to something which will surprise us all.
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24 votes in the poll so far

17 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder


In the Bitcointalk poll Fury is way ahead of Wilder to win the third fight.
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It's not like Wilder has no chance at all, but the likelihood is very slim. Lucky punch exists in boxing history but rarely happens. Who knows big swinging right cross from Wilder could land unexpectedly, and KO'd Fury. However, 11/4 odds for Wilder is not tempting for me considering all these above arguments.
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I have to agree with you. The first time they fought it was won by Fury it was not a draw as awarded by ring side judges.

It seems that if Wilder does take up training sessions with Foreman, he will definitely be a bigger threat to Fury but in the end I cannot see anything except Fury winning by a clear knock out or TKO. The re-match will not go to 12 rounds and be won/lost a points decision.


From what I heard, Deontay Wilder is already a hard worker in the gym, it's not like he was slacking at all.

You can't gain like 15lbs of pure muscle in a pure months like he did without being diligent and putting in the work.

That said, I really don't think he'll be able to change much in four months. He got beat at his own game... Fury came and put to pressure on Wilder and backed him up the whole fight, then unloaded bombs on him the whole time.

What's Wilder going to do? Practice throwing his right hand even more? Practice not wearing 40lbs suits before the fight? Learn how to box?!

He got whooped twice, and the third time is coming. I don't thin there has ever been a trilogy fight where the person has come back and won the third after losing the first two (yes I count the first draw as a loss, because Fury got robbed).
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This is what the fans of Wilder wants to see, because Wilder's chance to win is to only KO Fury cold since he can't box him out, Fury is taller and he is a good boxer than Wilder as we have seen in the last two fights, so Wilder needs to double time and work harder.

From what I heard, Deontay Wilder is already a hard worker in the gym, it's not like he was slacking at all.

You can't gain like 15lbs of pure muscle in a pure months like he did without being diligent and putting in the work.

That said, I really don't think he'll be able to change much in four months. He got beat at his own game... Fury came and put to pressure on Wilder and backed him up the whole fight, then unloaded bombs on him the whole time.

What's Wilder going to do? Practice throwing his right hand even more? Practice not wearing 40lbs suits before the fight? Learn how to box?!

He got whooped twice, and the third time is coming. I don't thin there has ever been a trilogy fight where the person has come back and won the third after losing the first two (yes I count the first draw as a loss, because Fury got robbed).
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This is what the fans of Wilder wants to see, because Wilder's chance to win is to only KO Fury cold since he can't box him out, Fury is taller and he is a good boxer than Wilder as we have seen in the last two fights, so Wilder needs to double time and work harder.
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23 votes in the poll so far

16 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder


The overwhelming majority are going for a Fury win in the third fight between these two.

Not really surprising, third match should have not happen but the clause on the contract and Wilder's motivation that he can beat Fury make this fight happens and so the July even is going to happen, but the hype is still there this is still going to be a box office because we have an excellent boxer in Fury and a one punch power on Deontay that makes this fight excited to watch anything can still happen here.
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What a surprise, after 9 votes we have 5 users voting for Wilder to win and 4 voting for Fury to win.

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In the game of boxing anything can happen mate and i hope you could remember very well Anthony Joshua and Ruiz fight ll which Ruiz was still tagged as an underdog by every booker despite the fact that he won the first fight.

People are voting on the strength of Fury's performance in the rematch, we have seen him dominate one of the hardest puncher in Wilder. As compare to Joshua vs Ruiz, wherein, from my personal opinion, Joshua underestimated Ruiz that's why he was upset. But quickly bounce back and win on the rematch. Ruiz was the underdog in the second fight because majority thinks that Joshua is still the best fighter, despite the lost and still the A-side, and they are right.

That's a different story, Ruiz vs AJ was not a close match up at the beginning but the lines was adjusted when Ruiz Upset AJ but still AJ was the favorite.
Here, Wilder vs Fury 2nd fight was almost even with odds, and this time around Fury is favorite but not a heavy favorite, so this would reflect people's impressive that this fight would not be easily dominated by Fury although he won the last fight.
@btc_angela, speaking of Joshua vs Ruiz fight, Joshua does underestimated him during their first fight but he make correction in the second fight and this is why i compared Wilder vs Fury lll to the Clash of the dunes because Wilder also make some mistake and I'm expecting him to fix it.
@Viscore, clash of the dunes was close matchup with Wilder vs Fury lll and if it wasnt boxing scene new site wont have compare it either.
In the game of boxing anything can happen mate and i hope you could remember very well Anthony Joshua and Ruiz fight ll which Ruiz was still tagged as an underdog by every booker despite the fact that he won the first fight.
While it is true that technically anything can happen in a boxing match especially when it comes to someone with the power of Wilder, at the same time the victory of Fury was so complete and devastating that it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which Wilder can change the outcome of the third fight, Fury had a a very good strategy to deal with Wilder's right hand and except for a couple of punches
Wilder could not land anything on Fury, so Wilder will have to reinvent himself and change the way he fights and it seems to not be possible this late on his career.
Fury complete because he lost some pounds while Wilder in the other hand gained some weight before there second fight and the custom he wore to the fight is so heavy as stated on Instagram which is the reason why is punches can not do anything to Fury.
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In the game of boxing anything can happen mate and i hope you could remember very well Anthony Joshua and Ruiz fight ll which Ruiz was still tagged as an underdog by every booker despite the fact that he won the first fight.
While it is true that technically anything can happen in a boxing match especially when it comes to someone with the power of Wilder, at the same time the victory of Fury was so complete and devastating that it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which Wilder can change the outcome of the third fight, Fury had a a very good strategy to deal with Wilder's right hand and except for a couple of punches Wilder could not land anything on Fury, so Wilder will have to reinvent himself and change the way he fights and it seems to not be possible this late on his career.

It seems that Fury already adjusted to the power of Wilder in their second fight. And another good reason why he added so much weight because if will somewhat help him up to hold his body when he is hit by Wilder, which we have seen in the rematch. Fury was hit and was not affected, and on the contrary, with the added weight on Fury comes added force on his punch which Wilder didn't anticipated.
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23 votes in the poll so far

16 vote for Fury
7 votes for Wilder


The overwhelming majority are going for a Fury win in the third fight between these two.
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18th July is only 129 days from now guys, and he expects to get a different result... I'm afraid this match would end badly for Wilder. Here is the statistic for immediate rematches:
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Joshua will attempt to become only is the fourth deposed heavyweight champion to win an immediate rematch after Floyd Patterson (against Ingemar Johansson in 1960), Muhammad Ali (against Leon Spinks in 1978) and Lennox Lewis (against Hasim Rahman in 2001).
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2019/dec/07/anthony-joshua-v-andy-ruiz-world-heavyweight-boxing-rematch-live

Will Wilder become the fifth? I don't think so.
Is actually not about what you and I think because with the right preparation, correction and determination. Yes, Wilder could be the fifth fighter to win an immediate rematch and i believe Fury himself won't underestimate him because Wilder won't talk Fury management into the third fight all for him to lose again.
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In the game of boxing anything can happen mate and i hope you could remember very well Anthony Joshua and Ruiz fight ll which Ruiz was still tagged as an underdog by every booker despite the fact that he won the first fight.
While it is true that technically anything can happen in a boxing match especially when it comes to someone with the power of Wilder, at the same time the victory of Fury was so complete and devastating that it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which Wilder can change the outcome of the third fight, Fury had a a very good strategy to deal with Wilder's right hand and except for a couple of punches Wilder could not land anything on Fury, so Wilder will have to reinvent himself and change the way he fights and it seems to not be possible this late on his career.
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