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October 15, 2022, 12:36:11 PM
Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

Judging from his recent fight against Fortuna, it is clear that he is back although he still have some difficulties in his jabs but he can work that out. Fighting Davis will not be that hard for him because he have the right tools, he just have to time it carefully when to dispose those tools because Davis is also quite clever mainly because of the experiences he had.
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October 15, 2022, 12:10:57 PM
No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.



Yes, it is not so attractive so I think I'm going with Haney winning by KO as it's currently at 3.40 in my bookie. I know there's a little chance and the odds says a lot, however, if Kambosos will try to be more aggressive, that will make him careless and that could be the reason why he will get KO.

I could be wrong, but I'm okay because if I'm right, I would go home big.

KO is also possible, although Haney is not a knockout artist, but he has 15KOs of his 28 wins, so anything is possible. If we think that Kambosos would lose via decision, so we are only thinking that Kambosos would lose here but will survive the 12 rounds, I think Kambosos will not let that happen, I mean, he will try his best to find a new strategy to defeat Haney and we are going to see that tomorrow.

Haney is a defensive fighter though in this sport KO is still possible but I'm into the strategy game that Haney will focus, if he will engage and if he will try to go toe-to-toe he is giving Kambosos to box him and with the skills of Kambosos it will endanger Haney withthat kind of close combat. Haney will remain with his strategy and will throw punches to earn points, he will likely look for decision as he will have that good advantage against Kambosos.
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October 15, 2022, 10:44:15 AM
My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.


That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I also think the same for me, Garcia is very good, and even if they did that scene, it doesn't convince me, I like the idea that he go for Shakur first, because it would be an interesting challenge and Davis will be aware of it, I think these things could not happen in another way, although I think what they did is very good, we only recommend the fight between Canelo and GGG, that fight happened practically thanks to the fact that the fans moved and asked for it by all means, they wanted to see that fight that eu If the trilogy happened, it was something that calmed them down, knowing all these things it is obvious that things can happen in their favor and being able to put all this in context to be able to achieve what they want with what they did, it is something that cannot be ruled out .

No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.



Yes, it is not so attractive so I think I'm going with Haney winning by KO as it's currently at 3.40 in my bookie. I know there's a little chance and the odds says a lot, however, if Kambosos will try to be more aggressive, that will make him careless and that could be the reason why he will get KO.

I could be wrong, but I'm okay because if I'm right, I would go home big.

Well, in all the threads and in the discussions I've seen about boxing, the chances of winning for Kambosos are lower, I don't know, but I think this could be a bad omen, I know that statistics help us a lot and numbers never lie , but since this is not a mathematical measure, I think that they should take the surprise factor, Haney is a very good boxer and yes, he has favoritism worldwide, he must be very proud and powerful at the same time because of all the speculations that are very much in favor of him, but can you imagine if Kambosos gives a surprise? Can you imagine the apusetas how they would look?



KO is also possible, although Haney is not a knockout artist, but he has 15KOs of his 28 wins, so anything is possible. If we think that Kambosos would lose via decision, so we are only thinking that Kambosos would lose here but will survive the 12 rounds, I think Kambosos will not let that happen, I mean, he will try his best to find a new strategy to defeat Haney and we are going to see that tomorrow.

Well for me I see this as if Kambosos were a guinea pig, and had everything to lose, and although it all sounds so good for Haney, I don't think KLambosos would let himself be knocked out, I think if they would reach a 12 round level and it would be quite a feat, because I imagine that this fight will be decided based on the judges, because I think it will be a very even fight and that it will have many things to see, for me Kambosos will not be so soft, I think it will show a lot, it does not have so much to lose, here the one who has a lot to lose is Haney and that is what he will seek to maintain, for me this fight will be very exciting, blow from one side and the other, it will be very interesting.



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How to watch Kambosos Jr vs Haney 2: Start time and full card explained



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eorge Kambosos Jr vs Devin Haney 2 takes place on Sunday, October 16th at the Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, Australia.

However, fans in the US should note that the event will technically be in the late hours of Saturday, October 15th due to the time difference with Australia.

The rematch will be for Haney’s WBC, WBO, IBF and WBA Lightweight titles.

In the US, the event will be shown on ESPN, ESPN+ ad ESPN Deportes, which costs $9.99 a month or $99.99 a year

Source: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/10/15/how-to-watch-kambosos-jr-vs-haney-2-start-time-and-full-card-explained/

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October 15, 2022, 09:12:53 AM
No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.



Yes, it is not so attractive so I think I'm going with Haney winning by KO as it's currently at 3.40 in my bookie. I know there's a little chance and the odds says a lot, however, if Kambosos will try to be more aggressive, that will make him careless and that could be the reason why he will get KO.

I could be wrong, but I'm okay because if I'm right, I would go home big.

KO is also possible, although Haney is not a knockout artist, but he has 15KOs of his 28 wins, so anything is possible. If we think that Kambosos would lose via decision, so we are only thinking that Kambosos would lose here but will survive the 12 rounds, I think Kambosos will not let that happen, I mean, he will try his best to find a new strategy to defeat Haney and we are going to see that tomorrow.
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October 15, 2022, 08:25:31 AM
No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.



Yes, it is not so attractive so I think I'm going with Haney winning by KO as it's currently at 3.40 in my bookie. I know there's a little chance and the odds says a lot, however, if Kambosos will try to be more aggressive, that will make him careless and that could be the reason why he will get KO.

I could be wrong, but I'm okay because if I'm right, I would go home big.
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October 15, 2022, 08:02:16 AM


No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

What I don't like about rematches when the first match is not that close, is the fight just picked up where it left off, Haney totally dominated Kambosos and I don't see what Kambosos will do to counter Haney's best moves, Haney is too good for Kambosos he is too good on their first fight he will be still good in this rematch unless Kambosos show something that we don't see in all his fights, the first four rounds is very important on these four rounds we'll know if its a reply of the first like what happened in the Ancajas - Martinez rematch.

Though it wasn't close but I think Kambosos is still trying to find a way to avenge his loss, besides there's a rematch clause if I'm not mistaken, so there's nothing wrong with the rematch, but it may not be interesting compared to the other matches we had witnessed in the  past.
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No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

What I don't like about rematches when the first match is not that close, is the fight just picked up where it left off, Haney totally dominated Kambosos and I don't see what Kambosos will do to counter Haney's best moves, Haney is too good for Kambosos he is too good on their first fight he will be still good in this rematch unless Kambosos show something that we don't see in all his fights, the first four rounds is very important on these four rounds we'll know if its a reply of the first like what happened in the Ancajas - Martinez rematch.
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October 15, 2022, 03:42:09 AM
No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.

Haney knows what's at stake in this fight, I mean if he wins this rematch then it would mean that he would fight Loma next which I think is a money fight for both of them and that would be interesting as well as both fighters are very technical.

So with that being said, I'll go for Haney by decision this time with a not so attractive odds but for me is the way to go.

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October 14, 2022, 11:11:31 PM

Well, that possibility has gotten bigger now and it's been in the news that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia decided to have some small talk in a club and afterwards they both posted "done" which brings curiousity to the people. Later on, it's been revealed that both camps are indeed having some discussion to make this fight happen, I assume it will happen in December or January. Meanwhile, Kambosos vs Haney fight is already around the corner. What do you think mate, will Kambosos outbox Haney this time?  Grin

We never know how things will turn out, both fighters are aiming to win these fight and if one successfully adjust, then the advantage will be for him, I know Kambosos wanted to make things as early as know even he can use some time to train hard before requesting for a rematch maybe he see his mistake and he will try to correct that, while with Haney he already exposed Kambosos he just need to enhance his strategy to make sure that he still have the advantage.

No one knows who's going to win but basing from how they fought last time, if Haney still has the dominance during the fight the
outcome may still be the same.
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October 14, 2022, 06:02:29 PM
Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

George has no right to talk shit  Grin, he was beaten the first time they met, if he wanted to have right, George must beat Haney on their next fight.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

The gift is an insult as far as I see it.  But Kambosos should just humble himself down and accept the gift as a gesture and do his best to win the fight and give back the book right after he take a win on his next match.

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

I also think George has a chance, he has lots of sparring with Manny Pacquiao and he should have learned something from it.  Aside from that he should let go of his hands and not let Haney dictates the fight.
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October 14, 2022, 02:50:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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quiet as a church mouse
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And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe

Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

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Lol, that's pysche war already, we all know what that book is all about hehehe.

Yes, I do agree, he didn't let his hands go in the first fight, however, it was due to Haney length and reach advantage that Kambosos has difficulty. And Haney's defense is truly amazing, good reflexes, duck when George is trying to be aggressive and then throw combinations in return. Might be close in the second fight, but in the end Haney will retain his belt.
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October 14, 2022, 02:45:33 PM
Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

I think Ryan is already ready to fight a champion, regardless if it is Davis or the winner of this fight. It's that Ryan is really set in against Davis, for unknown reason, he just said that he wanted respect in this division so he is willing to face the biggest puncher in Davis. However, the belt is on the line again between Haney and Kambosos and this is the fight that Ryan should be looking, if he just wanted to get the respect. Win the belt and for sure everyone will come after him.
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October 14, 2022, 08:20:37 AM
Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.
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October 14, 2022, 08:08:07 AM
Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.
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October 14, 2022, 08:00:05 AM

I'm a fan of Davis, and also a fan of Ryan Garcia, I think things will be different once they are in the ring, and I believe that Ryan Garcia has the advantage due to his height and reach, and take note, he is also quick.

No doubt that would be a must-watch fight and if ever Garcia wins, he is undoubtedly a great boxer if he beat Davis without any injury. Ryan Garcia should really consider fighting worthy opponents nowadays since he already fought a number of nobody boxers and with their current popularity and Davis, it will surely be a blockbuster hit and adding up with some roasting against each other before the fight, I tell you, that would be one of the high revenue fights this year.

That's the kind of break he needed, beating a real champion will silence his doubters and he will gain their respect. Garcia has to be more aggressive in choosing an opponent, fighting champions will certainly fast-track him to where he wants to go, and that is a success.

Sooner or later, he will have to fight a real champion whether in Haney or Davis.

But it seems that Ryan wanted more of Davis and he said it's because he want to get his respect. He has to earn it though, if he keeps on fighting just nobody there will be no respect. And so he need to demand GBP to match him with the champion in this division by this time. Haney and Loma is the real big name here, not Tank Davis, just saying.

I agree, I say it's enough baby sitting him because he won't reach that far if Oscar Dela Hoya will keep on protecting him, he cannot overcome his mental issues as well if he'll just face a random unknown boxer. Calling Davis for a fight is a smart move and I think he already have Oscar's blessing for that, I just hope that Davis will give him some time.

Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.
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October 14, 2022, 07:13:00 AM
That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

More on that kind of possibilities, they are really chasing each other in case that handlers and promoters start to negotiate. It will be easier from both camps to sell the fight with their fans; I see your point and that is also what I'm seeing with this social posts exchange. They are both pro and they are known fighters who are ready to go inside the ring.

It's just a good negotiation to start everything up. We will see more on these two while waiting for any updates regarding to possibilities of the upcoming fight.

Meanwhile, let's all wait and be focus with the rematch of Haney and Kambosos

Well, that possibility has gotten bigger now and it's been in the news that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia decided to have some small talk in a club and afterwards they both posted "done" which brings curiousity to the people. Later on, it's been revealed that both camps are indeed having some discussion to make this fight happen, I assume it will happen in December or January. Meanwhile, Kambosos vs Haney fight is already around the corner. What do you think mate, will Kambosos outbox Haney this time?  Grin
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October 14, 2022, 04:35:19 AM

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

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I think there is a chance if he will take the risk, he should be the aggressor and pressure Haney who is a good technical boxer, because if not, the same story will happen in their previous match and no chance for this fight to reach into a trilogy.
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October 13, 2022, 11:28:44 PM
Kickoff week EP 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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quiet as a church mouse
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And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe

Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

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October 13, 2022, 06:29:57 PM
Kickoff week EP 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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quiet as a church mouse
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And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe
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October 13, 2022, 03:26:48 PM
Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

True enough, he should win by KO, otherwise, judges will all favor Haney if this goes to 12 rounds. I'm pretty sure that Kambosos area ware that Haney is a very technical fighter, he has a high IQ but despite that, he can also make some mistakes, and that is something Kambosos should capitalize.

Devin Haney didn't win by knock out in their first fight. And even though the venue is the country of Kambosos which is Australia, yet the judges give the nod to the American Haney because he really outsmart George with his long jab and technical abilities.

He has mistakes no doubt, against Linares he almost went down and his legs did shake. However he was able to bounce back and beat Linares. George needs to him him solid just like what he did again Lopez to have a good chance to win.
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