Topic: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) - page 9. (Read 7227 times)

Yes, if the Kambosos manages to miss less in the upcoming rematch with Haney, then he may well win, he is a loaded boxer, but it is quite difficult to count only on a knockout blow with Haney, given his defense. I think that the Kambosos team made conclusions and made adjustments, but we will only find out about this during the fight itself.

We never know and I agree with you if ever Kambosos will find that strategy to break Haney's defense, then the chance of winning is really possible. In this sport, we all knew that upset can take place. There's no favorite that got an assurance to win the fight, in a somewhat underdog may bring that aggression and convert a lucky punch to bring down his opponent.

With the majorities, it's the defensive strategy of Haney that brings him the win and it's now the big challenge for Kambosos to reclaim his belt once he and his camp find the best way to break it out and dominate Haney.

^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Since the rematch is in Australia then we can expect another pro-Kambosos crowd. But I won't be surprised if the crowd will be booing Kambosos if he won't let his hands go. Kambosos needs to punch in bunches otherwise he cannot out-jab a jabber. He cannot outpoint a technician. The answer is simple, he fights like what he showed in the Lopez fight and he will have a chance to win. Kambosos will become a laughing stock even in his native Australia if he losses easily to Haney in this rematch.

This might be against the majority idea but I do not think that Kambosos will be idle like that without any planning and change of strategy.  I also think that Haney will be the crowd favorite but if Haney sticks to his boxing style during their first match and Kambosos found a way to crack it then we can probably be in for a surprise in this rematch.  Kambosos is capable of that act since he has done it during his fight against Lopez.

He's more prepared, and he knows how to play Kambosos I mean like what you said he schooled Kambosos by not letting him to make a close conversion which may lead him to win, Haney's style is more on defense and just throw punches when he sees good opening, but in terms of wasted effort Haney is limited in doing that, and if that will be the same thing Kambosos chance to push Haney to engage with him do have smaller chance.

Haney will just keep what he got and let Kambosos to try cornering him, but the defense will be solid and with his quick hands countering and throwing converted punches is where he will rely.

That's probably the case on this upcoming rematch and they surely have some reasons on why they exercised the rematch quite sooner than expected, we expected that Kambosos might face another opponent first before going back to Haney but that is not the case, maybe they have some idea on how to destroy Haney's game plan. Back to their first fight, I expected that Kambosos will start fresh and to be aggressive towards Haney all throughout the fight but we haven't saw him doing that, don't know why but surely that's one of the reasons why the latter didn't have any hardships defeating Kambosos.

Bookies know that Kambosos has a very slim chance of winning. It's a rematch but it's very obvious in the first fight that it was just like a walk in the park by Haney, I think fans are not excited with this fight, they are excited on the next fight of Haney which is probably Loma.

Their first fight betting odds were like X2.5 on Kambosos. Now it skyrocketed to x6. Unbelievable. So the betting gods believed that past-prime Donaire and GGG have better chances of upsetting their opponents rather than Kambosos retaking his belts in his own backyard from young Devin Haney.

At this moment there is no more rematch clause because this fight was only a part of their first fight wherein Kambosos managed to inked the rematch clause should he lose. Anyways, I agree that a trilogy might happen if Kambosos manages to win the undisputed belts. And of course, there will be a lot of big offers on Kambosos should he pull an upset. KingRy of DAZN and Tank of PBC will try to squeeze as much money as possible from their promoters and networks in order for a shot at the undisputed belts.

I agree, there's no doubt that Haney, because of his high boxing IQ can't make that costly mistake, but if we are in the side of Kambosos, we have to think of ways to win this fight. This could probably be like Floyd vs Maidana, wherein Marcos try to oerwhelm Floyd and become the aggressor throughout the fight and almost pull an upset in their first fight. He really put Floyd in the corner, did some him some dirty, (hitting below the belt, hitting him when they are about to be break up by the referee and others..). Not saying that he Kambosos should do that, but he needs to step us his game and throw more punches and not let Haney be in his sweet spot in this fight.

No doubt about that! Haney's definitely have the higher hand here in this rematch while Kambosos's chances are much lower compared to their first encounter. We saw how Haney schooled Kambosos that made the latter look like an amateur boxer, we expected differently but Haney's IQ will always prevail compared to Kambosos.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Well, I have spoken with many friends, who are very fanatical about boxing and they know a lot, they assure me that Haney will have no problems with this fight, but that Kambosos is saved, that is,. he is very low profile, and that we do not know very well what is going on, from Haney we have the information that he is a complete boxer who cannot leave anyone and that he will not leave things to chance, much less leave it in hands of the judges, this indicates that Kambosos has the greatest probability that nothing is expected of him, and I am sure that the majority of bets will be very much in favor of Haney, so the one who can win a lot is him and the one who can losing a lot is Haney if he doesn't win.


Well, if Kambosos defeats Haney if there will be a trilogy, that is something that they somehow want or don't want to do, the business model that boxing has if this option is given is very viable, on the other hand, I think that if you don't Da, we would have a good duel of what is coming for Haney from now on, for now I think that Kambosos has many options to win because he is working hard on his training and this is something that has made him known, for me Haney cannot trust, I know Haney has a lot of experience and can handle the timing, but he can't unload the wow factor that Kambosos can offer.

That's a sure thing, it will happen, no rematch clause but a trilogy is going to be a more interesting fight, which means they are going to make a lot of money. However, that "if" probably has a chance of 30% because bookies rate this fight as a sure win for Haney since he is listed as the heavy favorite.

So we will have another trilogy if Kambosos win over Haney in the rematch? Maybe, but there is no clause about it right? Perhaps if we see some highway robbery in Australia, so controversial that there is a huge uproar from the fans all over and demanding that there should be a 3rd fight because George doesn't deserved to get a win. So I'm seeing no trilogy first, and the majority of us, it seems Haney will repeat his performance and then wait for Loma winning his fight.

Yeah, it was my mistake, Kambosos is with Lou DiBella. But it seems the Lou Dibella and Bob Arum are in good relationships and they can make the fight between the two very easy.


I think he pulls an upset, he will most likely fight Loma. Remember that this is the original schedule, they have agreed it already. But Loma back out because he want to served his country in war. And Kambosos truly understand it, so there is no issue whatsoever and then they pick up Devin Haney to replace Loma. So in any case, George will go back to his original target.


Yes, he had Shakur at super featherweight and even at featherweight, Emmanuel Navarrete. And there are still in the higher and lower weight class, like Tyson Fury and then Inoue. Tank and Ryan can't even get a fight, LOL. For sure their next opponents will be another cherry pick.

Pure speculation but I definitely think that Haney will win if Kambosos has nothing new to offer to the current undisputed boxer, Haney. But there's this thing where I got so curious about, why did Kambosos exercised the rematch quickly? Did Kambosos and his team found a good way to defeat the current Haney that's why they made the rematch right away? That's what I want to know soon.

And if Haney gets defeated, he can also exercise a rematch to get a trilogy just like Kambosos did. There's no way Kambosos won't agree because the contract says the opposite thing.

I am not also sure but I think Kambosos is not tied to Top Rank. The last time I heard, he was promoted by Lou DiBella. And if my memory serves me right, DiBella Entertainment is not tied to any networks (DAZN, ESPN, and PBC) although I'd seen some of his fights televised by PBC (Showtime/Fox). I think the bigger issue now is not about the promoters but rather these networks, namely DAZN, ESPN, and PBC (Showtime/Fox).

If Kambosos scores an upset over Haney he is still obligated to face the WBO mandatory challenger which is Lomachenko. But Kambosos can also vacate his WBO belt if there are better offers from the other networks especially if Tank of PBC wants a shot at the real belts. Another possible good offer is from KingRy of DAZN. The good thing about not being tied up by a network is the ability to fight cross channels. The disadvantage though is even if you are the champion, the guy tied up by the network is probably more influential and protected.

Top Rank now clearly has the best names from super featherweight to super lightweight. So Bob Arum can just let them face each other without much problems. Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia are in a bad situation when it comes to a high level of opponents although both are contented cherry-picking bums after bums and their promoters and networks will just hype their opponents.