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Quote from: Dave1 on September 30, 2022, 11:50:09 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 07:38:37 AM

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I do agree, both of this boxers should be mature enough and not to go to social media and be that tell it all attitude. But who can blame Garcia, I do remember someone mentioned him as social media champ.

And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

As usual, that's typical Ryan Garcia and he's been so noisy in the social media lately while trying to bait Tank Davis to have a fight with him, Garcia should be careful this time because he might get what he asked for and Tank Davis might give him his first defeat. Garcia might be depressed again and his mental problems will get worse.

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And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

I agree, the lightweight division is quite stacked with potential great boxers and it's an advantageous to our side because we will see great fights in the years and months to come.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 30, 2022, 11:50:09 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 30, 2022, 12:21:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 07:38:37 AM

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I do agree, both of this boxers should be mature enough and not to go to social media and be that tell it all attitude. But who can blame Garcia, I do remember someone mentioned him as social media champ.

And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

Again, it boils down to business, Ryan has a lot of followers, casual fans and even not a fan of boxing, and same with Davis. So it make sense for him to be quite a story teller and make it as big as he can, again, hype and to make money if in the future, they are going to face each other. Yes, promoters and network might pose a problem, but if they know that they are going to make huge profits then they will step aside all their differences.

If Shakur joins the fun, then so be it, but so far he is not bad mouthing anyone, except calling Tank Davis and looking forward to fight Haney and Loma.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 30, 2022, 11:50:09 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 30, 2022, 12:21:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 07:38:37 AM

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I do agree, both of this boxers should be mature enough and not to go to social media and be that tell it all attitude. But who can blame Garcia, I do remember someone mentioned him as social media champ.

And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

That's the big factor. Promoters will take advantage of this noise and they can easily convert a good amount of profits once they settle and negotiate a good deal. Expect that the hypes will continue while working with the contracts. The benefactors of these social media hypes always reflect with the ticket sales. They always wanted to make sure that fans will be engaged. Social media channels are very useful for every event. They really make things in promoting the upcoming event.

Nothing to will change as the strategy keeps gaining more attentions and creating impacts.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 30, 2022, 12:21:07 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 07:38:37 AM

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

I do agree, both of this boxers should be mature enough and not to go to social media and be that tell it all attitude. But who can blame Garcia, I do remember someone mentioned him as social media champ.

And now that we have a new boxer in the horizon, which is Shakur so definitely this will be fun for the next coming years. The hype is already there, it's the promoters and their network that can be the stumbling block.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 07:38:37 AM

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

That might be the case why Garcia and Davis have been so foolish and exchanging some words in social media, they are trying to make some hype but people know that the current Ryan Garcia cannot defeat the current Gervonta Davis. It might be best for Garcia to facilitate Shakur first in the latter's debut in lightweight because his recent opponents aren't that strong enough to consider that he is indeed ready to fight Gervonta Davis.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 30, 2022, 04:11:15 AM

@ inthelongrun - maybe this is not the personality of Haney? He might as well be quiet, but then prepared himself to the fight and focus. Although he is also no short of doing his own bad mouthing to Kambosos, but he was just reacting to anything that George says. So it will be interesting to see from him start trash talking and boast that he already beat him once and that we will repeat it again in front of his Australian and Greek fans.

For Davis and Garcia, they should really fight instead of this childish scuffle in public.

My personal take with Davis and Garcia's childish scene. They are trying to engage their fans and let them ask for the fight to happen. I mean, they can provoke promoters to bring the contract on both sides. My opinion though. Moving back to this upcoming fight, trash talks might be used to attract possible viewers aside from those fans who surely will buy the ticket.

Haney can say that word since he already beats Kambosos and by chance he can repeat the outcome.

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Speaking of Ryan Garcia, and since you mentioned Tank, he detailed a club confrontation with Tank Davis:

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“I actually did see Tank in the club,” Garcia recounted. “He definitely … he’s definitely … he’s a tough guy. He was very low-key, in his hoodie. I went up to his table … and we said, ‘Yo, are we gonna make this fight happen?’ And I guess he got all offended by that. Got all worked up and I was like, ‘Yo, what you on about, man? Ain’t no respect here? He responds with, ‘Nah, there ain’t no respect here.’ So [I said], ‘Oh, it’s like that. OK, it’s like that.’ Then he grabbed my chain, but I wasn’t worried about [it]. There were so many security guards there. I knew he wasn’t going to take my chain or do anything, really. He just wanted to seem tough.

“So I said, wow, ‘It’s like that, huh?’ And then he responded again, ‘Yeah, it’s like that.’ Then he had to let go and I said, ‘You know what’ — I said something to him. He knows what I said. Not gonna repeat it on Live, but just know, the fight, that’s where it really happens. Outside the ring you can act tough all you want. Inside the ring it all changes.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-describes-altercation-with-tank-club-says-he-just-wanted-seem-tough--169381

Just another funny story between this two, hopefully we can really see them in the ring together. Specially Ryan, he is doing a good job building this up.

I'm waiting for this fight press conference, wanted to see what Kambosos will say to Haney after he was defeated in a dominant fashion. Or this time Haney will dictate the trash talking, hehehe.

I wish they just traded bombs in the club. Who cares if they get cuts and black-eyes and get arrested. Both are cherry pickers. Tank was a legit world champion at super-featherweight but it's been years now and he never fought a real belt at lightweight and super-lightweight. Kingry is still young but he should've been fighting the other top names and champions. I still don't get why casual fans love Kingry and Tank. It's also not a coincidence that those 2 pricks are the only big names that are fighting outside of ESPN and Top Rank except for Kambosos who is about to lose again to Haney.

Nah, I don't think this two are going to fight in a club, they are intelligent not to messed up in public. And probably Garcia added some spices on the story hehehe, you know to put him and Davis again in the limelight and keeping the hype alive. Both have bodyguards so I guess the minute someone will land his hand against each other, there could be fight between two groups but it didn't happen. So most likely this story is 50/50. It's up to us whether we believed Ryan Garcia's story or not. Or maybe we will hear the side of Davis later, who knows. Grin

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@ inthelongrun - maybe this is not the personality of Haney? He might as well be quiet, but then prepared himself to the fight and focus. Although he is also no short of doing his own bad mouthing to Kambosos, but he was just reacting to anything that George says. So it will be interesting to see from him start trash talking and boast that he already beat him once and that we will repeat it again in front of his Australian and Greek fans.

For Davis and Garcia, they should really fight instead of this childish scuffle in public.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 29, 2022, 04:41:12 PM

Speaking of Ryan Garcia, and since you mentioned Tank, he detailed a club confrontation with Tank Davis:

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“I actually did see Tank in the club,” Garcia recounted. “He definitely … he’s definitely … he’s a tough guy. He was very low-key, in his hoodie. I went up to his table … and we said, ‘Yo, are we gonna make this fight happen?’ And I guess he got all offended by that. Got all worked up and I was like, ‘Yo, what you on about, man? Ain’t no respect here? He responds with, ‘Nah, there ain’t no respect here.’ So [I said], ‘Oh, it’s like that. OK, it’s like that.’ Then he grabbed my chain, but I wasn’t worried about [it]. There were so many security guards there. I knew he wasn’t going to take my chain or do anything, really. He just wanted to seem tough.

“So I said, wow, ‘It’s like that, huh?’ And then he responded again, ‘Yeah, it’s like that.’ Then he had to let go and I said, ‘You know what’ — I said something to him. He knows what I said. Not gonna repeat it on Live, but just know, the fight, that’s where it really happens. Outside the ring you can act tough all you want. Inside the ring it all changes.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-describes-altercation-with-tank-club-says-he-just-wanted-seem-tough--169381

Just another funny story between this two, hopefully we can really see them in the ring together. Specially Ryan, he is doing a good job building this up.

I'm waiting for this fight press conference, wanted to see what Kambosos will say to Haney after he was defeated in a dominant fashion. Or this time Haney will dictate the trash talking, hehehe.

I wish they just traded bombs in the club. Who cares if they get cuts and black-eyes and get arrested. Both are cherry pickers. Tank was a legit world champion at super-featherweight but it's been years now and he never fought a real belt at lightweight and super-lightweight. Kingry is still young but he should've been fighting the other top names and champions. I still don't get why casual fans love Kingry and Tank. It's also not a coincidence that those 2 pricks are the only big names that are fighting outside of ESPN and Top Rank except for Kambosos who is about to lose again to Haney.

Kambosos is becoming silent now. Probably preparing for something big in order to surprise Haney. Or maybe he is silent because trash-talking and losing again will turn him into a joke even to his Australian and Greek fans.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 28, 2022, 08:14:53 AM

Quote from: mirakal on September 28, 2022, 03:20:39 AM

I agree! It was evident that Kambosos was indeed having a hard time against Haney and even his punches won't get through because the latter has a good tight defense. We are not underestimating Kambosos here but when he is sharing a ring with Haney, the latter makes him looks like an amateur boxing who don't know what to do, that's how good Haney is. He might be boring to watch but we cannot really argue that his style is good.

That's the sad truth, maybe we think that Kambasos will make an adjustment but for sure Haney will also make an adjustment and he will be ready with Haney's game plan. This is one of the rematch fights that fans think the outcome will be the same on the first fight.

That is for sure, Kambosos may train all he want and come prepared this time but the fact is Haney is also doing the same thing or much better than what Kambosos is doing. It's not like Haney will just sit and wait for Kambosos, of course Haney's camp will also improve what they did in their first encounter. That said, I'm still inclined that there's not much difference in this rematch, Haney will still be the undisputed champion at the end of the day and the one who will face Loma next.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 29, 2022, 07:44:42 AM

Since these guys are rivals and potential opponents of Haney and Kambosos I'll post it here. Ryan Garcia got jokes. I'm not a Ryan Garcia fan but I know that he's got a lot of fans even if he is not yet a world champion. But I have to admit that I laugh hard at KingRy's tweet. Cheesy

It was obvious last weekend that Shakur Stevenson really wanted to stop his opponent and he even resorted to some dirty tricks.

Shakur will surely get his title fight next year against either Loma, Haney, or Kambosos. But what about Ryan Garcia and Tank? Cheesy

Speaking of Ryan Garcia, and since you mentioned Tank, he detailed a club confrontation with Tank Davis:

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“I actually did see Tank in the club,” Garcia recounted. “He definitely … he’s definitely … he’s a tough guy. He was very low-key, in his hoodie. I went up to his table … and we said, ‘Yo, are we gonna make this fight happen?’ And I guess he got all offended by that. Got all worked up and I was like, ‘Yo, what you on about, man? Ain’t no respect here? He responds with, ‘Nah, there ain’t no respect here.’ So [I said], ‘Oh, it’s like that. OK, it’s like that.’ Then he grabbed my chain, but I wasn’t worried about [it]. There were so many security guards there. I knew he wasn’t going to take my chain or do anything, really. He just wanted to seem tough.

“So I said, wow, ‘It’s like that, huh?’ And then he responded again, ‘Yeah, it’s like that.’ Then he had to let go and I said, ‘You know what’ — I said something to him. He knows what I said. Not gonna repeat it on Live, but just know, the fight, that’s where it really happens. Outside the ring you can act tough all you want. Inside the ring it all changes.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-describes-altercation-with-tank-club-says-he-just-wanted-seem-tough--169381

Just another funny story between this two, hopefully we can really see them in the ring together. Specially Ryan, he is doing a good job building this up.

I'm waiting for this fight press conference, wanted to see what Kambosos will say to Haney after he was defeated in a dominant fashion. Or this time Haney will dictate the trash talking, hehehe.

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Quote from: stadus on September 29, 2022, 04:18:20 PM

It's just like Inoue and Butler, the latter's chances in winning a fight against the monster is not high enough and probably won't be higher even if he will be given a 2-month head start to train. Anyway, back at this fight, Haney truly have the higher hand and they even knew that fact that's why they didn't bother to move the fight in US because they know that there's a high chance that Kambosos will be embarrassed again in front of his own people.

It's a championship fight but it's a clear mismatch, but there's nothing we can do about it, at least we see this than nothing at all. The most interesting fight here is the Haney vs Kambosos, because we don't know what Kambosos's are planning here and he wanted the rematch immediately.

Well, I don't expect much as I believe on what majority are thinking here, this could be the same walk in the park fight again.

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Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

It's not yet guaranteed, any fights there is a chance of upset. But boxers who lost an upset either didn't trained hard or something that will affect them like injuries that is not reported. Haney is very much healthy and his team is solid including his father. Remember that his father almost not made it to Australia because of strict visa issuance. Nevertheless they were able to get through red tape and bureaucratic processes and for sure this won't be an issue on the second fight. So Haney is more focus right now to defend his belt again in Australia and go home with the belt again.

Yes, there is and even if that chances are small, upset is always an upset. But boxers who lost a fight doesn't mean that they didn't train well or they have some injuries that they didn't disclose, sometimes or most of the time these boxers have lost a fight is because the opponent managed to outbox them, or their power and speed is really different that's why a win is almost impossible thing to do.

It's just like Inoue and Butler, the latter's chances in winning a fight against the monster is not high enough and probably won't be higher even if he will be given a 2-month head start to train. Anyway, back at this fight, Haney truly have the higher hand and they even knew that fact that's why they didn't bother to move the fight in US because they know that there's a high chance that Kambosos will be embarrassed again in front of his own people.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 26, 2022, 08:02:42 AM

Kambosos better not aim for a single big shot to KO Haney. Haney knows that Kambosos will try to unleash everything in this rematch so I am expecting the young champion to become more careful which can make this rematch more boring. But if Kambosos can impose his style like what he did on Teofimo then maybe we can see a better fight than the first one.

I agree, if Kambosos aim for a single big shot KO, the fight would only end up like their first match. Instead, Kambosos must rely on the more volume of punches to out-punch and outscore Haney. With the defensive style of Haney, It would be difficult to find an opening and execute that 1 punch KO.

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 26, 2022, 08:02:42 AM

There is no escaping for the winner of this fight because Lomachenko is the WBO mandatory. Haney also mentioned that he wants Lomachenko. Should Kambosos wins, he can vacate his WBO belt and give up his undisputed status if he wants to avoid Loma. But Kambosos earlier was scheduled to take Loma before the cancellation due to the war. So Lomachenko should be fighting for the undisputed belts soon.

True, I think Bob Arum had promised or stated that the next fight for Loma is a title fight and at this moment, there is only one person who holds all the title in the division and that is Haney. So whoever wins between the two will probably face Lomachenco next year.

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 26, 2022, 08:02:42 AM

I hope Loma still has it. He was actually the one collecting the belts one by one before that injury that caused his defeat to Teofimo Lopez.

Well, let us wait and see his coming fight if he still has all those skills and abilities. I am also intrigued by some rumors that Haney is evading Loma because Loma knows how to break Haney's defense. And if ever Kambosos win, that would be better because we will be seeing a more offense-oriented match.

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Since these guys are rivals and potential opponents of Haney and Kambosos I'll post it here. Ryan Garcia got jokes. I'm not a Ryan Garcia fan but I know that he's got a lot of fans even if he is not yet a world champion. But I have to admit that I laugh hard at KingRy's tweet. Cheesy

It was obvious last weekend that Shakur Stevenson really wanted to stop his opponent and he even resorted to some dirty tricks.

Shakur will surely get his title fight next year against either Loma, Haney, or Kambosos. But what about Ryan Garcia and Tank? Cheesy

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 28, 2022, 08:14:53 AM

Quote from: mirakal on September 28, 2022, 03:20:39 AM

I agree! It was evident that Kambosos was indeed having a hard time against Haney and even his punches won't get through because the latter has a good tight defense. We are not underestimating Kambosos here but when he is sharing a ring with Haney, the latter makes him looks like an amateur boxing who don't know what to do, that's how good Haney is. He might be boring to watch but we cannot really argue that his style is good.

That's the sad truth, maybe we think that Kambasos will make an adjustment but for sure Haney will also make an adjustment and he will be ready with Haney's game plan. This is one of the rematch fights that fans think the outcome will be the same on the first fight.

Boxers camp will anticipate any changes with their opponents they will keep on reviewing the fights and look for any flow that they can take the advantages, we anticipate that Kambosos will adjust but for sure Haney will not be stagnant, he will also adjust and make sure that he is prepared in protecting the belts that he has, It's not an easy rematch for both of them, expect that the fans will love seeing the adjustment and how they will execute new fighting strategy to try winning the fight.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 28, 2022, 03:20:39 AM

I agree! It was evident that Kambosos was indeed having a hard time against Haney and even his punches won't get through because the latter has a good tight defense. We are not underestimating Kambosos here but when he is sharing a ring with Haney, the latter makes him looks like an amateur boxing who don't know what to do, that's how good Haney is. He might be boring to watch but we cannot really argue that his style is good.

That's the sad truth, maybe we think that Kambasos will make an adjustment but for sure Haney will also make an adjustment and he will be ready with Haney's game plan. This is one of the rematch fights that fans think the outcome will be the same on the first fight.

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Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

The odds for Haney is high to win in this rematch, we have seen the Kambosos struggles against a fighter that has good defense. He can't even land a good punch on Haney in their first fight, what makes it different in the second? If he will adjust in the rematch, so is Haney. And being one of the best ring IQ, Haney can play chess match and anticipate George next move in this second fight.

So most likely, the outcome will be the same, all judges awarding Haney the scores and Haney will opt to move up and not face Lomachenko. Or if he wanted the experience then fight him next year.

I agree! It was evident that Kambosos was indeed having a hard time against Haney and even his punches won't get through because the latter has a good tight defense. We are not underestimating Kambosos here but when he is sharing a ring with Haney, the latter makes him looks like an amateur boxing who don't know what to do, that's how good Haney is. He might be boring to watch but we cannot really argue that his style is good.

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Quote from: stadus on September 27, 2022, 10:11:52 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 27, 2022, 05:31:38 AM

Quote from: stadus on September 25, 2022, 01:14:26 PM

Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

It's not yet guaranteed, any fights there is a chance of upset. But boxers who lost an upset either didn't trained hard or something that will affect them like injuries that is not reported. Haney is very much healthy and his team is solid including his father. Remember that his father almost not made it to Australia because of strict visa issuance. Nevertheless they were able to get through red tape and bureaucratic processes and for sure this won't be an issue on the second fight. So Haney is more focus right now to defend his belt again in Australia and go home with the belt again.

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Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

The odds for Haney is high to win in this rematch, we have seen the Kambosos struggles against a fighter that has good defense. He can't even land a good punch on Haney in their first fight, what makes it different in the second? If he will adjust in the rematch, so is Haney. And being one of the best ring IQ, Haney can play chess match and anticipate George next move in this second fight.

So most likely, the outcome will be the same, all judges awarding Haney the scores and Haney will opt to move up and not face Lomachenko. Or if he wanted the experience then fight him next year.

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