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September 24, 2022, 04:24:25 PM
^^ Yes, that's one of his biggest mistakes, he didn't let his hands go specially in the early rounds. And it's too late, maybe round 7 when he started to chase Devin, but Haney is already in the zone and comfortable, using his length so that George can't go inside. So if Kambosos will start hot like in the Lopez fight and swarm Haney, then he might have a chance to win. Otherwise, another easy fight for Haney, cruising automatic for a 12 round decision again and a place for a Loma fight next year.
This seems like the only chance that Kambosos has of trying to turn the fight on his favor, if he let Haney to get into the rhythm that he likes then he'll be in complete control of the fight and get an easy win, so he needs to get out there and try to get the win from the moment the bell sounds, now even with that kind of strategy getting the win will not be easy, but at least it will have a small chance to do so while at the same fans he will give the fans what they want.

Yes, one strategy that they might used in this fight and as I had said, Kambosos was successful doing that against Lopez in their fight, even knocking him down. And when Lopez try to rally late, George has build enough lead already. On the contrary, it was a opposite fight plan for him, he was slow and he started to attack in round 7. Maybe Haney's style is too difficult for him, or he really let Devin get comfortable. And even if this is a small chance as we see, at least he will have to try and do it. Instead of looking for a one punch knock out, which might not happen. So he needs to bring the fight to Haney, not that other way around.

Haney is different, he is very technical and he will not make a costly mistake that will make Kambosos capitalize. I think Haney is still gonna dominate here, his quickness and his defensive style is hard to break against a much slower fighter, Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win here.
We can see that Haney is in fact the favorite to win this fight but if you were Kambosos how you would approach this fight in order to get the unlikely win? And it seems to me the only way to do something like this is by trying to bring the fight to Haney and make him uncomfortable so he cannot execute his better boxing technique, and even in that scenario I will give the advantage to Haney but I think there will be a slightly better chance for Kambosos to win the fight.
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September 24, 2022, 04:17:56 PM
Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

But Shakur has proven himself and schooled Robson in their recent fight.  Whether he retains his belt or was stripped of it, the fight shows that he is still the king of the Division.  The 135 weight division is getting more and more interesting.  The boxing council will have an additional option of making huge money in the Lightweight Division.  Grin



Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

It is more surprising that Shakur doesn't meet the weight limit.  Vacating the belt isn't that surprising since they already decided to move up into the lightweight division.  It is a wise decision on the part of Shakur's camp.  Better to preserve the health of the boxer than to put the boxer in danger just to retain the belt. 

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made.


I agree, the decision of Shakur's camp has evaded the chance of Shakur suffering a huge amount of body deterioration due to forced dehydration.

Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

It would be very and exciting fight if he is matched with Davis but I agree that his adviser will let him settle down on the lightweight division before targeting the top ranked fighter of the division.
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September 24, 2022, 03:32:49 PM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

Some are surprised and that includes me, all I know that he will at least fight Robson first before he decides to move up in the next weight class, I didn't know that he's already at the verge of that situation. Well, it is still good for him because he decided to move much earlier, he is still young and I bet he can make some difference with that power and speed he have.

Too soon for him to fight any title holders including Gervonta Davis, he too should climb the ranks just like what others did. I believe Ryan Garcia is a perfect match for him and the winner will get to fight with Gervonta Davis.

Well he hinted already that he will definitely go up one weight class and he is targeting Gervonta Davis. But we are speculating that he might unify all the belts first before climbing up.

Nevertheless, it seems that the situation of having all the belts at super featherweight will not going to happen. I believed that he will have to work his way of lightweight before facing big names such as Davis and Ryan Garcia. Both of this fighters though might be a problem for Shakur, but we will see.
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September 24, 2022, 03:13:32 PM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.

Some are surprised and that includes me, all I know that he will at least fight Robson first before he decides to move up in the next weight class, I didn't know that he's already at the verge of that situation. Well, it is still good for him because he decided to move much earlier, he is still young and I bet he can make some difference with that power and speed he have.

Too soon for him to fight any title holders including Gervonta Davis, he too should climb the ranks just like what others did. I believe Ryan Garcia is a perfect match for him and the winner will get to fight with Gervonta Davis.
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September 24, 2022, 10:57:33 AM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

And Lopez deserve some respect for that! He did not made some noise when he was defeated by Kambosos, instead he took some time to reflect what is lacking, eventually he realized that lightweight is not for him and probably, moving up is one of the best decisions he made. Recently, I found out that he is about to face someone this coming December, he is looking to have a title fight.

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Teofimo (17-1, 13 KOs) wants to fight for a world title in December against IBF/WBO light welterweight champion Josh Taylor or for the WBC belt against the winner of Jose Zepeda and Regis Prograis.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/08/teofimo-lopez-fighting-next-on-dec-10th-at-msg/
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September 23, 2022, 06:16:11 PM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.

Right, for some this is a surprising move by Shakur and his team, vacating the belt and doesn't want to make the limit at 130 lbs.

But in the long run, it will do good for him, he has 2 belts already at 130 and then can chase more at 135 when he is about to hit his prime. And then the belt will be easy for him because the champions will be his stable mate at Top Rank. So the fight can easily be made. Of course he can fight Davis, for all the glory and marbles, but for sure his adviser will say not to look for Davis yet, it will come. Might be better to fight those who have the belts at the new division that he will enter and if he get that, all fights that he wanted will happen because they are going to chase him as the champion.
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September 23, 2022, 03:50:19 PM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.

Just the same with Casimero's case, there's nothing that he can do but to move forward and try his skills in the next division, like what he said, he can't compromise his health and the best option is to move up. Now there are many great fighters in this division. We will expect more interesting fights this coming season and that means that aside from the money that will flow, fans will also enjoy the best match that promoters will be offering.

Haney and Kambosos rematch will dictate who's going to be the title holder and if in case there's no trilogy to happen.

If in case Haney will win again, then he might earn a huge amount of money in his next money fight.
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September 23, 2022, 01:43:10 PM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Yes, we can't really take the fact that Teofimo Lopez made a good run in the lightweight and it's actually good that he decided much earlier that lightweight isn't for him that's why he moved-up in the next division. Now the stars are getting stacked at 135 pounds trying to get their way through the ranks with of course the new additional, Shakur Stevenson. Although we can't do anything towards Shakur's situation but it's really unfortunate that he can't even defend his belt for the last time against Robson.
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September 23, 2022, 06:43:31 AM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.

Great decision of a fighter, if he is not anymore comfortable in a lower weight, going up is always the solution. They have to face the champion and the good thing is they are not forcing their body, they are fighting to a weight class that they feel they can give their 100%. Salute to fighters who are honest and do not make an excuses if they lose.
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September 23, 2022, 06:35:22 AM
No doubt about that! Haney's definitely have the higher hand here in this rematch while Kambosos's chances are much lower compared to their first encounter. We saw how Haney schooled Kambosos that made the latter look like an amateur boxer, we expected differently but Haney's IQ will always prevail compared to Kambosos.

He's more prepared, and he knows how to play Kambosos I mean like what you said he schooled Kambosos by not letting him to make a close conversion which may lead him to win, Haney's style is more on defense and just throw punches when he sees good opening, but in terms of wasted effort Haney is limited in doing that, and if that will be the same thing Kambosos chance to push Haney to engage with him do have smaller chance.

Haney will just keep what he got and let Kambosos to try cornering him, but the defense will be solid and with his quick hands countering and throwing converted punches is where he will rely.

This might be against the majority idea but I do not think that Kambosos will be idle like that without any planning and change of strategy.  I also think that Haney will be the crowd favorite but if Haney sticks to his boxing style during their first match and Kambosos found a way to crack it then we can probably be in for a surprise in this rematch.  Kambosos is capable of that act since he has done it during his fight against Lopez.

Since the rematch is in Australia then we can expect another pro-Kambosos crowd. But I won't be surprised if the crowd will be booing Kambosos if he won't let his hands go. Kambosos needs to punch in bunches otherwise he cannot out-jab a jabber. He cannot outpoint a technician. The answer is simple, he fights like what he showed in the Lopez fight and he will have a chance to win. Kambosos will become a laughing stock even in his native Australia if he losses easily to Haney in this rematch.

Yes, and I would say the fans are going to support him win or lose. But if at some point in the fight that it become boring, or not very entertaining, the fans will boo either boxer. Well he can beat him to the punch, and he should be the first one to jab Haney and then if he counter then George should go punch in bunches to shake off Haney. Hist mentality with the Lopez is very different when he fought Haney. He seems to be settled against Haney. And he pull a stunt if I'm not mistaken about not making weight the first time. So it really didn't went that way to him isn't it.

He should or it a must for him to break that defense and make sure to throw quality of punches that will shake Haney, it's tough but it can be done with good strategy and timing he might reclaim his belt and make his name back at hype, we don't know though if he will be able to find that solid combination to shake Haney and made a mistake to bring an opening for Kambosos to excite the fans.

We can all speculate and give our insight, but it will be judged when both feet are already inside the ring and start fighting.

I hope to see Kambosos solid punches in the early rounds, being aggressive and bringing different fighting styles to surprise the defense
of Haney.
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September 23, 2022, 04:30:01 AM
^^ Right, so even if Lopez moves up to 140 already, we have someone trying to get into the picture and put his name around those established boxers in the lightweight.

So we will see how he will adjust to it, maybe he can challenge for the belt because guess what? Shakur is with Top Rank as well so it's a win win situation for him to get into this weight class ASAP because Haney is also on the same stable and so is Loma.
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September 23, 2022, 01:14:14 AM
Things are getting more interesting in lightweight as Shakur Stevenson made it clear that he is heading north after failing to make 130 in his upcoming fight this weekend. He was stripped of his WBO and WBC belts which are still up for grabs if Conceicao manages to pull an upset.

Teofimo Lopez and Ryan Garcia early this year mentioned that they will campaign at 140. So the big names in the division will be undisputed champion Devin Haney, Vasyl Lomachenko, Tank Davis, Shakur Stevenson, and George Kambosos if he can win the rematch.
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September 22, 2022, 09:24:56 PM
No doubt about that! Haney's definitely have the higher hand here in this rematch while Kambosos's chances are much lower compared to their first encounter. We saw how Haney schooled Kambosos that made the latter look like an amateur boxer, we expected differently but Haney's IQ will always prevail compared to Kambosos.

He's more prepared, and he knows how to play Kambosos I mean like what you said he schooled Kambosos by not letting him to make a close conversion which may lead him to win, Haney's style is more on defense and just throw punches when he sees good opening, but in terms of wasted effort Haney is limited in doing that, and if that will be the same thing Kambosos chance to push Haney to engage with him do have smaller chance.

Haney will just keep what he got and let Kambosos to try cornering him, but the defense will be solid and with his quick hands countering and throwing converted punches is where he will rely.

This might be against the majority idea but I do not think that Kambosos will be idle like that without any planning and change of strategy.  I also think that Haney will be the crowd favorite but if Haney sticks to his boxing style during their first match and Kambosos found a way to crack it then we can probably be in for a surprise in this rematch.  Kambosos is capable of that act since he has done it during his fight against Lopez.

Since the rematch is in Australia then we can expect another pro-Kambosos crowd. But I won't be surprised if the crowd will be booing Kambosos if he won't let his hands go. Kambosos needs to punch in bunches otherwise he cannot out-jab a jabber. He cannot outpoint a technician. The answer is simple, he fights like what he showed in the Lopez fight and he will have a chance to win. Kambosos will become a laughing stock even in his native Australia if he losses easily to Haney in this rematch.

Yes, and I would say the fans are going to support him win or lose. But if at some point in the fight that it become boring, or not very entertaining, the fans will boo either boxer. Well he can beat him to the punch, and he should be the first one to jab Haney and then if he counter then George should go punch in bunches to shake off Haney. Hist mentality with the Lopez is very different when he fought Haney. He seems to be settled against Haney. And he pull a stunt if I'm not mistaken about not making weight the first time. So it really didn't went that way to him isn't it.
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September 22, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
He had the right to exercise it right away but we will know it soon if Kambosos and his camp definitely did the right thing for rushing the fight, we didn't know exactly what happened behind the scenes but it looks to me that Kambosos was a having a hard time accepting the reality and that he was overwhelmed by Haney.

I agree, he needs another fresh strategy to overcome Haney's technicalities because if he and his camp cannot find that something that might lead him the win he needed then I'm afraid that Kambosos is just adding the embarrassment he experienced earlier this year.
I really hope that this is more than sour grapes coming from Kambosos and there was in fact something that affected his performance in his fight against Haney, if that is the case then we may get to see a more interesting fight than the one that we watched previously, but even then I do not think Kambosos will have too much of a chance to get the win, however if those are nothing but excuses coming from Kambosos then the upcoming fight will not be really that interesting to watch.

Well, there are many things that come to mind, it could be said that the healthiest thing is to be able to place bets on Haney and possibly have a great victory and this is the trigger for great bears that can occur, for me this fight although to many does not seem so interesting to you, it can mean a lot for Kambosos, I think it may be the right opportunity so that the doors to fights that have to be of a higher level can be opened much more and why not, maybe think of a new weight or a new category to show that things have not been given to him by sheer luck, of course this is exemplifying a possible scenario where he wins.

No doubt about that! Haney's definitely have the higher hand here in this rematch while Kambosos's chances are much lower compared to their first encounter. We saw how Haney schooled Kambosos that made the latter look like an amateur boxer, we expected differently but Haney's IQ will always prevail compared to Kambosos.

He's more prepared, and he knows how to play Kambosos I mean like what you said he schooled Kambosos by not letting him to make a close conversion which may lead him to win, Haney's style is more on defense and just throw punches when he sees good opening, but in terms of wasted effort Haney is limited in doing that, and if that will be the same thing Kambosos chance to push Haney to engage with him do have smaller chance.

Haney will just keep what he got and let Kambosos to try cornering him, but the defense will be solid and with his quick hands countering and throwing converted punches is where he will rely.

This might be against the majority idea but I do not think that Kambosos will be idle like that without any planning and change of strategy.  I also think that Haney will be the crowd favorite but if Haney sticks to his boxing style during their first match and Kambosos found a way to crack it then we can probably be in for a surprise in this rematch.  Kambosos is capable of that act since he has done it during his fight against Lopez.

We never know and I agree with you if ever Kambosos will find that strategy to break Haney's defense, then the chance of winning is really possible. In this sport, we all knew that upset can take place. There's no favorite that got an assurance to win the fight, in a somewhat underdog may bring that aggression and convert a lucky punch to bring down his opponent.

With the majorities, it's the defensive strategy of Haney that brings him the win and it's now the big challenge for Kambosos to reclaim his belt once he and his camp find the best way to break it out and dominate Haney.

Well, with you I think you are the fifth person I have come across, not only here in the forum, but in other places, who tell me that if Kambosos manages to break Haney's defense he can win the fight, just like that, but I tell you that Haney is very strong, he has a lot of experience and apart from that he is a boxer who has total knowledge of how Kambosos fights and the possible strategies, but I don't think he considered Kambosos breaking his defense, because he would simply collapse.

It's all a matter of waiting to see how he is preparing himself + Krabosos, from what I've seen he's been training very hard, and he's training very intensely.

^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

True, I forgot to include that as well, Haney is not known to be a KO artist and his chin is very much suspected. So Kambosos or at least his corner didn't recognized this obvious flaw in Haney and didn't take advantage of it.

Australians fans are very much disappointed in him I would say, and Haney's face looks fresh after the fight, which means he didn't do any damage while his face is the complete opposite. So I will be expecting George to start very aggressively and should really walk on Haney in the first few rounds to test him.

Yes, Haney, although he is not a knockout, but he earns points while the Kambosos does not take care of the defense, but tries to find a chance to finish with a knockout, and here he may or may not be lucky, so if he manages to miss less, he has a chance.

Yes, it is as you say, I had also analyzed what can happen, Haney can undoubtedly establish her strategy of going out with everything to give Kambosos a good knockout, because sometimes Kambosos tends to neglect her a lot due to the fact of wanting to have the attack all Over time, his technique is much more focused on attack, but I think that Kambosos, although he will go out with everything, I do not think he will go out with the intention of looking for a knockout, for me based on what I have read, it is that Kambosos will go out to look for the fight, but he will try to take it to the 12 Round so that Haney falls into despair and plays with his tiredness, sometimes the best boxers save the best for last.
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September 22, 2022, 02:19:37 PM
^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

True, I forgot to include that as well, Haney is not known to be a KO artist and his chin is very much suspected. So Kambosos or at least his corner didn't recognized this obvious flaw in Haney and didn't take advantage of it.

Australians fans are very much disappointed in him I would say, and Haney's face looks fresh after the fight, which means he didn't do any damage while his face is the complete opposite. So I will be expecting George to start very aggressively and should really walk on Haney in the first few rounds to test him.

Yes, Haney, although he is not a knockout, but he earns points while the Kambosos does not take care of the defense, but tries to find a chance to finish with a knockout, and here he may or may not be lucky, so if he manages to miss less, he has a chance.
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We never know and I agree with you if ever Kambosos will find that strategy to break Haney's defense, then the chance of winning is really possible. In this sport, we all knew that upset can take place. There's no favorite that got an assurance to win the fight, in a somewhat underdog may bring that aggression and convert a lucky punch to bring down his opponent.

With the majorities, it's the defensive strategy of Haney that brings him the win and it's now the big challenge for Kambosos to reclaim his belt once he and his camp find the best way to break it out and dominate Haney.

Yes, if the Kambosos manages to miss less in the upcoming rematch with Haney, then he may well win, he is a loaded boxer, but it is quite difficult to count only on a knockout blow with Haney, given his defense. I think that the Kambosos team made conclusions and made adjustments, but we will only find out about this during the fight itself.

Kambosos's chances is literally not that low, yes, he's an underdog but he still has what it takes to break Haney's defense and I believe they already found a way that's why they activated the rematch within just few months after the fight. Kambosos just have to get aggressive in the early rounds because he's good at surprising his opponents that's why he won against Lopez.

Well he better be find a way to win the second fight, otherwise he will be remember as one hit wonder boxer. Just imagine beating that time the highly touted Teo Lopez. And so he has all the brandish and trash talk against Haney, but he come up short in front of his fans in his own country. So if he doesn't have the guts to formulate a game plan and then lost again in this rematch, he will have to earn it again at this division again. Aggressive, yeah, he could start like that but he should also maintain it if the fight is going 12 full rounds.
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September 21, 2022, 05:33:52 PM
^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

True, I forgot to include that as well, Haney is not known to be a KO artist and his chin is very much suspected. So Kambosos or at least his corner didn't recognized this obvious flaw in Haney and didn't take advantage of it.

Australians fans are very much disappointed in him I would say, and Haney's face looks fresh after the fight, which means he didn't do any damage while his face is the complete opposite. So I will be expecting George to start very aggressively and should really walk on Haney in the first few rounds to test him.
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September 21, 2022, 03:46:47 PM
Yes, if the Kambosos manages to miss less in the upcoming rematch with Haney, then he may well win, he is a loaded boxer, but it is quite difficult to count only on a knockout blow with Haney, given his defense. I think that the Kambosos team made conclusions and made adjustments, but we will only find out about this during the fight itself.

Kambosos must be the busier boxer between the two.  He needs to jab way more than Haney and give more body punches to open up Haney's upper part.  Kambosos also need a referee that will allow them to brawl more, if they got a referee that is too sensitive for that, then we might see another Haney win on this match.


Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.
It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

Kambosos is too careful during their 1st match.  Probably he respected the KO power of Haney or he is not comfortable with a defensive boxer like Haney.  Kambosos is way too cautious of the counter and it did affect his performance.  I hope Kambosos had found a good counter strategy for Haney's defensive stance.

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September 21, 2022, 03:45:29 PM
We never know and I agree with you if ever Kambosos will find that strategy to break Haney's defense, then the chance of winning is really possible. In this sport, we all knew that upset can take place. There's no favorite that got an assurance to win the fight, in a somewhat underdog may bring that aggression and convert a lucky punch to bring down his opponent.

With the majorities, it's the defensive strategy of Haney that brings him the win and it's now the big challenge for Kambosos to reclaim his belt once he and his camp find the best way to break it out and dominate Haney.

Yes, if the Kambosos manages to miss less in the upcoming rematch with Haney, then he may well win, he is a loaded boxer, but it is quite difficult to count only on a knockout blow with Haney, given his defense. I think that the Kambosos team made conclusions and made adjustments, but we will only find out about this during the fight itself.

Kambosos's chances is literally not that low, yes, he's an underdog but he still has what it takes to break Haney's defense and I believe they already found a way that's why they activated the rematch within just few months after the fight. Kambosos just have to get aggressive in the early rounds because he's good at surprising his opponents that's why he won against Lopez.
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September 21, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.
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