Topic: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) - page 7. (Read 7240 times)

Of course, Haney's win is not guaranteed yet but based on what we saw and their abilities, we can somehow speculate that Haney still have the higher hand this time. We don't know yet what will Kambosos do this time, but I know they have some plan because they wouldn't activate the rematch clause in just mere months after the fight if they didn't figure out something.
As for the betting side, Haney might be the favorite too but I think his odds compared to the underdog is not that far.

I don't think the Kambosos team will go after a lucky punch this time around. They must have known very well that their fighter is not a knockout artist. Even Kambosos himself must be aware that his punch is not that strong that it only takes one lucky hit for his opponent to fall and never get up. It's going to be a funny strategy if that's what they are after. I think the Kambosos team will devise a plan to force Haney to into a brawl.

Most probably because that's his best chance of winning the fight, a single shot that would hurt Haney that could lead to a KO victory, it's hard to imagine he will win like that but if he is lucky, then we will see that one happening. Kambosos is eager to get back his belts that's why he did not wait for a long time to ask for a rematch.

On the contrary, I suspect that he might be looking for a single shot, or at least a punch that will put Haney down just like in the Lopez fight. He needs to have that kind of performance against Haney. Because as you have said, he can't out jab a jabber, so he better change his approach in the rematch. He needed fire, in the Lopez fight you can see in his eyes, in every interview how hungry he is and how he wants to take the head of Lopez. But against Haney he seems to lost that one or not imposed the psy war or trash talking.

Maybe yes or we never know what will be the fighting chance of Kambosos as he's the one who needs to adjust and make a big come back if he wanted to reclaim the belt. I'm not sure about the bookies reference in terms of placing the underdog and the favorite but maybe it's more on the title holder and for Kambosos fans they might get better odd on this fight.


I also hope that he will be bringing that IQ inside the ring when he wins this one up and chase for the title belt match. Either Haney or Kambosos, it's not a problem for Loma, as he is chasing for another run to collect all the belts in this division he will be preparing and will try everything to succeed.

Kambosos better not aim for a single big shot to KO Haney. Haney knows that Kambosos will try to unleash everything in this rematch so I am expecting the young champion to become more careful which can make this rematch more boring. But if Kambosos can impose his style like what he did on Teofimo then maybe we can see a better fight than the first one. 

There is no escaping for the winner of this fight because Lomachenko is the WBO mandatory. Haney also mentioned that he wants Lomachenko. Should Kambosos wins, he can vacate his WBO belt and give up his undisputed status if he wants to avoid Loma. But Kambosos earlier was scheduled to take Loma before the cancellation due to the war. So Lomachenko should be fighting for the undisputed belts soon.

I hope Loma still has it. He was actually the one collecting the belts one by one before that injury that caused his defeat to Teofimo Lopez.

It was something that had to be done because when he followed the tempo that Haney did in the later fight then the result would definitely be the same as their first fight.
Haney is a boxer who is quite smart in his strategy and for sure this is troublesome and Kambosos will have to face that again although I still think that this will again belong to Haney for now.

When he really wants to maximize the KO in this fight, the thing he has to do is clearly more difficult but indeed this is a choice because if he forces a fight with decisions then Haney is clearly the favorite.
In the first fight Haney already knew that Kambosos would play with speed so he held back a little, it was not impossible that he would also do something like this again in the second fight.

But the case of Casimero is quite different, neither one in his camp give a statement whether he'll stay or if he'll move to super-bantam or featherweight. He already missed some weight before but got lucky because he has another solid reason, and I surely bet that they already know that. Well, he's already 32 years old, might be late for him to expect that he could chase Inoue in the next division.

Back to this fight, it looks like Haney will still win again as his chances to win again have increased this time that's why he is confident to fight Kambosos again in his place. That said, the chance of trilogy is quite low, so I think we will see Haney vs Loma next.

I'm not such an expert when it comes to what is the right approach for Kambosos but I'm quite confused on how he performed on their first encounter, he wasn't clever enough to at least give Haney some difficulties but instead he gave the latter some advantage to defeat his own self. We didn't saw the Kambosos we've known, the aggressive one and the one who mostly give offensive attacks. The outcome might be different if we saw the Kambosos who fought Lopez, but unfortunately, we haven't.

Pretty sure the result will be Haney wins by decision. In the first match, Kambosos couldn't touch Haney, and nothing will change in this 2nd match except for the increase of the KO probability because Kambosos will be more aggressive, which will make him out of his style. Honestly, this match is boring, unlike what we expected when Loma was the king. Hopefully, the winner won't chicken out when Loma is coming.

Counter punching strategy will best work against an aggressive opponent, and since Haney is more of a technical fighter than an aggressive fighter, so I would say that the chance Kambosos would land a good counter punch is very slim, he needs to be accurate so that one punch could change everything.

It's easier said than done actually, but a slim chance is better than nothing.

In their first match that jabs really protects Haney and made him win with the scorecards, Kambosos needs break that protection in a manner of countering those jabs with a great timing to create opening and exposed Haney, it's a lot of adjustments and good body movements, if he will able to find that way it would be difficult for Haney to use his stuff in covering to Kambosos aggressive punches.


One good timing to land a solid combination will change the direction of this fight, like what we have seen from their last match Kambosos game plan was well read by Haney, those counter jabs hurt Kambosos a lot so he needs to find ways to counter that plus he needs to make solid conversions, a wise in throwing punches will conserve his energy and might bring him the belt back.

It's either Kambosos become slow in the first fight or that Haney is really good in anticipating his punch that's why he was able to get away or evade it as soon as Kambosos throws it.

And if I remember correctly, Haney said that in pre game conference, that he will beat Kambosos to the punch and everything that George will do, he will counter it. So it's his timing, and it will beat everything, if you can time your opponent then you can hurt him. So it might be the same result in this rematch, Haney by decision if Kambosos can't adjust.

That's his problem, he was very slow in their first meeting, Haney can predict his game plan so he cannot win if he uses the same strategy. I think he needs to conserve his energy, be a counter puncher and make the right timing, that way if he can hurt Haney, there's a win that he can win by KO.

I could say that Kambosos needs tons of adjustment if we want to reclaim his belts. Styles make a fight and it seems to me that Haney's style is not suited for a slugger like Kambosos, the latter is a bit slow for Haney. The first fight is not even close so for me and changing one's boxing style can't happen overnight so for me this exercising of the rematch clause is just for the money, result will be the same (just my two cents).

The moment Haney dictates the tempo of the fight, Kambosos already lost the match.  So this coming match, Kambosos shouldn't let Haney dictates the pacing of the fight.  Kambosos must come up with some strategy that will make him nullify Haney's attempt to dictate the tempo.


Also, Kambosos must not approach Haney directly, he will be susceptible to jobs and counter-attacks. Kambosos must approach Haney at an angle where Haney's counter is ineffective.  It needs fast reflexes but it is worth practicing.


On the other hand, knowing what is the talk on social media and making use of it as fuel to better himself isn't a bad thing.  Kambosos should just humble himself and let his fist do the talking.  About the benefits of a rematch, I think it goes either way, if ever Kambosos wins, I am sure a rematch will happen and by that time, it is Kambosos who will have to lose a lot and Haney will be the one to gain a lot.  And that is one of the function of a rematch, for the loser to have a chance to regain whatever he lost in their 1st match.

On the other hand, there are several reasons that make him want to do a rematch, such as saying about Haney who is too passive and tends to clinch and maintain a distance which makes the match so monotonous for a duel that risks a big title.
Maybe in this case he actually wanted to try again even though he knew that Haney was something that would probably be greatly favored now.

If you look at the previous fight, Haney prioritizes distance more and he is not in a hurry in carrying out his strategy. We can see when he attacks and is about to be countered by Kambosos he immediately keeps a safe distance and always starts from the beginning. On the other hand, Kambosos has been carried away to Haney's battle scheme which makes him unable to avoid and ultimately loses in absolute terms.

Kambosos needs to initiate that and be more aggressive not just allowing Haney to take over and keeps his fighting style dominates, Kambosos chance is to keep trying to break the defense of Haney and also avoid those counter jabs to make a good numbers with his score cards, he already have an idea if how Haney fought so his camp needs now is to bring something unexpected for Haney, Kambosos camps needs to bring him a sparring partner who got similar fighting style of Haney.

He needs to find ways to find an opening and make Haney to make a mistake and engage with their exchanges of punches.

I also think that Kambosos should be given a good opportunity, because he is a boxer who needs to vindicate himself, perhaps everyone is betting on Haney but I think that Haney is undoubtedly what he has in preparation and in combat matters he has a great team in his shouldersw also, we cannot forget the experience he has, as every boxer has vulnerabilities, it is obvious but we must also recognize that he is a human being and that he can bring some mistakes that can be seen by Kambosos, and Kambosos has a lot to give , he needs to win this fight, I know that most bets will be in favor of Haney, but oh those who bet in favor of Kambosos and win.


In the case of Kambosos everything changes, because if I were Kambosos I would not look at social networks or anything that had to do with general statistics, because I would simply be disappointed and obviously when seeing numbers and statistics anyone gets demoralized, for me Kambosos have a lot to gain, and Haney has a lot to lose if he loses, so for me this fight, if there is one, will be very interesting, because we will see a Haney who will be very pressured, and Kambosos as one of the boxers who will win the most if he wins, it is something obvious, because Immediately more opportunities will open up for him, he will have many more opinions of business models where he will always want the win-win.

Haney is indeed a defensive player but Haney isn't good as Mayweather Jr. in terms of shifting def and offensive mode, IMO.  So there is still a good chance for Kambosos to crack the defense of Haney.
If Kambosos fail to adjust in this fight, obviously, Haney will surely dominates the fight.  Though I do not think Kambosos needs to be lucky in order to win the fight,   Kambosos needs a new strategy to outbox or outclass the defensive boxing style of Haney.


Job Straight and lots of it.  Kambosos must outbox honey.  He must land lots of jobs and straight while evading the counter punches thrown by Haney.  Kambosos must also target the body, any legal part that can drain the stamina out of Haney. Kambosos can also try approaching Haney via different angles, and try to learn from Manny's attack and evasive moves.   It is quite difficult to crack a defensive player especially if that player is good with countering and has KO punching power.  But I believe there is no perfect strategy in boxing so any boxing style can be countered by another boxing style.