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Quote from: erep on August 29, 2022, 08:57:38 AM

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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

A good advantage if he won't lose his focus and continue his journey, he still young and he can still motivate himself to keep growing and continue to enhance his skills in case that in their second meetup Haney still dominates him. Though just like you for me, 5 months is enough to train harder and to find good solutions to all those lapses that he was lacking during their first fight.

It's time to move forward and try to reclaim his belt. It will also be a good time to prove to his fans that he's not done yet, and he's here to stay and hold the title.

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Quote from: erep on August 29, 2022, 08:57:38 AM

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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

anything is possible to happen , because they are both Good boxer that has 1 punch down but of course it will be the training and preparation in which will decide who will win in this fight.

5 months training is indeed long , but remember that Haney is also preparing and practicing so this is a both effort and skills meaning? who will win or lose is the one that deserves the title .

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Quote from: erep on August 29, 2022, 08:57:38 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on August 29, 2022, 07:19:01 AM

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

Both for sure will improved a lot in the second fight, but the adjustment should be more on Kambosos side because he was defeated in the first fight. But what kind of adjustment he needed? that is the big question. But Haney is a different kind of fighter, and I would say that he hasn't face this kind of opponent before that why he was thrown off balance in this fight. He can't used his power because Haney is so elusive and has a good counter. So it's really up to their camp to came up with a good plan and review the tapes and see what went wrong with them in the first fight and not let the same mistakes.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 22, 2022, 01:08:20 AM

So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney. George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.

This would be the second time around that these boxers will fight inside the ring and by this time, they will be fighting for the undisputed lightweight championship in October 16 in Australia. It was said that the match will happen during the afternoon of the said date and will be viewed in October 15 in United States via streaming if I'm not mistaken. During their first fight, Kambosos was really overwhelmed by the power, stamina, and technical and strong punch and jabs combination delivered by Haney. The record Kambosos achieved during his fight with Lopez was tainted by his recent match. And perhaps he is hoping to win the title back because after his loss, he decided to file for a rematch as soon he had the chance.

They still have a month and a few weeks to prepare and train physically, mentally, and emotionally. I guess the time they have right now is sufficient to condition themselves overall to prepared for this match. Although based on the odds, the crowd's favorite is Haney because of their previous match. His powerful attacks were memorable for the viewers to bet on him again this time. However, Kambosos will surely not back down either.

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And maybe just to break the ice in this fight, Kambosos said that he is proud of Teo Lopez going to 140 lbs and winning his first fight against Campa. Not sure if this is a complement or something as they have big trash talking fight in the media prior to their fight.

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“Me and Teo always go back and forth,” said Kambosos during a recent interview with FightHype.com. “I still go back at him when he brings up all of these excuses that he has but I’m proud of him. I’m actually very proud of him. To come back after the fight that we had, it shows that he’s a champion. I wish him all the best at 140.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-praises-teofimo-lopez-following-comeback-win-im-proud-him--168680

Maybe it just humble George when he lost to Haney and now going on a rematch and I will say in a survival mode because this is a must win for him.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 29, 2022, 07:19:01 AM

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on August 29, 2022, 07:19:01 AM

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

That's very obvious, Kambosos has to find a way to knockout Haney, or else, he will again lose in the judges scorecards. If only he is a knockout artist, then maybe he can find a good timing to counter Haney and knock him cold, but that's not the scenario I'm seeing because Haney's quickness will make him easily win the fight again.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 29, 2022, 06:28:04 AM

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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.

since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 29, 2022, 02:28:57 AM

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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.

since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 28, 2022, 07:31:23 AM

Quote from: yazher on August 28, 2022, 07:00:08 AM

Quote from: lionheart78 on August 28, 2022, 06:02:52 AM

Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 28, 2022, 07:31:23 AM

Quote from: yazher on August 28, 2022, 07:00:08 AM

Quote from: lionheart78 on August 28, 2022, 06:02:52 AM

Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Fans on both sides are really waiting for this so the only now is to wait if both fighters will win and after that the talk between camps will be anticipated, promoters will be there to negotiate and if the price is right for sure we will see this event to happen. For now, we should support both fighters and hope for the best.

We don't want to see any sideways or any problem that will affect the possibilities of their match up, looking to see clean and
considerable wins from both of them.

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Quote from: yazher on August 28, 2022, 07:00:08 AM

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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 28, 2022, 06:02:52 AM

Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 28, 2022, 06:34:37 AM

Despite the loss, Kambosos still receive few votes
George Kambosos Decision - 5 (16.7%) and only one voted that Kambosos will win by a knockout, I don't know if the number is still high outside of this forum that Kambosos will beat Haney, he may promise to do better but Haney is good at changing style in the ring, I don't know what kind of plan will Kambosos use, before the first fight many of us are excited to see the match but now I don't know if the number is still high, of course, the Australian will cheer Kambosos but they have doubt too if Kambosos can deliver the win.

That's normal mate, Kambosos still has a chance to win, and just like his chance on the poll, that's also his chance in the betting odds as obviously he will be the heavy underdog going to the fight. Kambosos is surely training hard because he does not want to be defeated again that could potentially end his career if he does not move up in weight.

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Despite the loss, Kambosos still receive few votes
George Kambosos Decision - 5 (16.7%) and only one voted that Kambosos will win by a knockout, I don't know if the number is still high outside of this forum that Kambosos will beat Haney, he may promise to do better but Haney is good at changing style in the ring, I don't know what kind of plan will Kambosos use, before the first fight many of us are excited to see the match but now I don't know if the number is still high, of course, the Australian will cheer Kambosos but they have doubt too if Kambosos can deliver the win.

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Quote from: erep on August 28, 2022, 04:37:10 AM

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I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

And that's not new to this sport, though I would like to comment about that dominance from Haney we all witness that and if Kambosos won't be able to adjust in how Haney set his plan beating him, it would be a had rematch for him. He needs to be more careful and needs to bring good throws to create an opening and try to overpower Haney in any chances that are given to him.

Without any further adjustment with Kambosos we might see the same outcome, and with the possible matchup between Loma and Haney

we might see them or we might hear updates once both of them in their matches.

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Quote from: erep on August 28, 2022, 04:37:10 AM

Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2022, 02:50:31 AM

I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

True, there is always these KO punches in the later part of the fight that can turn the tide of the match. And I agree that we cannot judge the upcoming fight with the previous fights. For sure, the losing side on the first fight will have their strategy polished, and adjust according to what they have learned from the first fight. So we cannot say 100% that Haney will win the rematch, we might say that Haney has the advantage but saying that he will 100% win again on their rematch is unfounded. Let us wait and see the result before saying something not absolute yet Cheesy

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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 28, 2022, 02:50:31 AM

I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

Kambosos will improve his abilities for the second match, if we think the previous match cannot be used as the main benchmark for the second match, every fight has a different storyline such as the UFC fight the previous week between Usman vs Edward also ended differently even though Usman dominated all rounds during the fight but Edward can beat him with one hard kick in the face. The same is true for boxing fights even though they dominate but are not guaranteed to be able to hold the belt at the end of the boxing fight.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 27, 2022, 10:50:08 PM

Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.

I'm thinking the same thing, Haney dominated the first match, Kambosos looked amateur on that fight, so there's no way Haney will lose in the rematch. I can't wait for a possible Loma vs Haney, so I like this fight to be over soon, and honestly, I don't expect that I would be entertain in this fight as I know already the winner.

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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.

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