[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 11.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 06:51:15 PM

The thing here is that if he would be taken down by Inoue then those trashtalks wont be effective anymore on possible next opponents that he would have.

You got it. That's the thing that others don't get especially in Facebook comments that it's just good for them if Casimero will trashtalk because he is selling the fight or just being arrogant. There's a risk on what he's doing.

It's ok to be comfortable that he can beat either Donaire and Inoue but crossing the lines thru trash talk and then he will lose later on will result in his trash talk not being an effective tool for marketing on his future fight.

He is trash talking because he really wants to fight Inoue, although it really shows how arrogant he is for doing that. Losing after trash talking your opponent is a slap to him if ever. I dont like this attitude of Casimero being too confident and underestimating someone because its not really necessary. Its better for him to prove how strong he is inside the ring when the right time comes because actions speak louder than words.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 06:51:15 PM

The thing here is that if he would be taken down by Inoue then those trashtalks wont be effective anymore on possible next opponents that he would have.

You got it. That's the thing that others don't get especially in Facebook comments that it's just good for them if Casimero will trashtalk because he is selling the fight or just being arrogant. There's a risk on what he's doing.

It's ok to be comfortable that he can beat either Donaire and Inoue but crossing the lines thru trash talk and then he will lose later on will result in his trash talk not being an effective tool for marketing on his future fight.

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Quote from: tippytoes on September 04, 2021, 04:44:08 PM

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 04:00:10 PM

Business is business and they would really be looking into something which they can really make more money and this had been the main impression for most people or do have in mind.

We dont really care on what their reason is.We do need is that this fight should really push through because lots had been expecting for this thing to happen.We can really

able to know if Casimero is really just worth to those trash talks that he had said which did really provoked Inoue.

That's right, boxing isn't just a sport but also a trillion dollar business for the industry. Looking at that part that both fighters are great fighters but the thing is.
Fans are going to watch the upcoming fight because of the hotness of the trashtalks that has been blown by Casimero.

Now, Casimero is selling his fight by those trash talks and naughty mannerisms. It is like Donaire is out of the discussion already as Casimero is making noise and now people want to see him inside the ring with Inoue, and see what he's got under his sleeves. High possibility that we will see them fight before the end of this year but sportsbooks will still favor Inoue here. Their promoters should seal the deal fast and start promoting their bout.

I agree, since Casimero is trash talking his way with Inoue, it seems that this fight will happen first before because Inoue vs Donaire. It might benefit Donaire though as it will soften Inoue a bit, but we still wanted to see him with a rematch with the the Monster.

So let's way if there is a positive outcome of Casimero bad mouth and trash talking.

If he gets Inoue first, then let's see if he can walk the talk.

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Quote from: tippytoes on September 04, 2021, 04:44:08 PM

Quote from: tabas on September 04, 2021, 04:15:33 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 04:00:10 PM

Business is business and they would really be looking into something which they can really make more money and this had been the main impression for most people or do have in mind.

We dont really care on what their reason is.We do need is that this fight should really push through because lots had been expecting for this thing to happen.We can really

able to know if Casimero is really just worth to those trash talks that he had said which did really provoked Inoue.

That's right, boxing isn't just a sport but also a trillion dollar business for the industry. Looking at that part that both fighters are great fighters but the thing is.
Fans are going to watch the upcoming fight because of the hotness of the trashtalks that has been blown by Casimero.

Now, Casimero is selling his fight by those trash talks and naughty mannerisms. It is like Donaire is out of the discussion already as Casimero is making noise and now people want to see him inside the ring with Inoue, and see what he's got under his sleeves. High possibility that we will see them fight before the end of this year but sportsbooks will still favor Inoue here. Their promoters should seal the deal fast and start promoting their bout.

Yeah that was very effective after having some trashtalks then he do really now on how to market himself because there are several good boxers which are humble and not really that much tactful

but this guy do really knows on how to play the game and this business.He do need to hype which of course which would make some demand and that makes even more revenue both boxer and the promoter.

The thing here is that if he would be taken down by Inoue then those trashtalks wont be effective anymore on possible next opponents that he would have.

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Quote from: tabas on September 04, 2021, 04:15:33 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 04:00:10 PM

Business is business and they would really be looking into something which they can really make more money and this had been the main impression for most people or do have in mind.

We dont really care on what their reason is.We do need is that this fight should really push through because lots had been expecting for this thing to happen.We can really

able to know if Casimero is really just worth to those trash talks that he had said which did really provoked Inoue.

That's right, boxing isn't just a sport but also a trillion dollar business for the industry. Looking at that part that both fighters are great fighters but the thing is.
Fans are going to watch the upcoming fight because of the hotness of the trashtalks that has been blown by Casimero.

Now, Casimero is selling his fight by those trash talks and naughty mannerisms. It is like Donaire is out of the discussion already as Casimero is making noise and now people want to see him inside the ring with Inoue, and see what he's got under his sleeves. High possibility that we will see them fight before the end of this year but sportsbooks will still favor Inoue here. Their promoters should seal the deal fast and start promoting their bout.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 04, 2021, 02:03:56 PM

Quote from: yazher on September 03, 2021, 05:07:07 AM

I think they should give him a chance to give him what he wants and they shouldn't give any reason to refuse his challenge. They should not give any reasons to delay or to postpone this fight because the fans right now are requesting this fight to happen as soon as possible. Inoue is not that kind of guy to back out to any challenge out there since he beat his opponents with his powerful blow to the body and it is effective since the day he stepped in the ring. Casimero on the other hand wanted to fight someone who wants to clash in the right without running like the Cuban fighter did and the perfect boxer for that is Inoue. I wonder why they need to go through some long negotiations just for these two good boxers to finish their business inside the ring.

Most of the time this is about the money, even if fighters want to fight each other above the ring the promoters are going to try to extract every single dollar they can out of the fight, something that is not wrong as it is their duty to try to see the interests of their fighters are being taken care of, but this creates delays in the fights we want to see to the point that some fights do not happen at all or take place many years later once the fighters are out of their prime.

That's the game, even how good the fighter is but he was not signed with a popular promoter, his career will not be as good as he wants to. For example, if Inoue was not signed by Top Rank and no big promotion signed him, he will just continue to fight in Japan where he may still be popular but will not big money in boxing like other boxing superstars have made or making in their career as a boxer.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on September 04, 2021, 04:00:10 PM

Business is business and they would really be looking into something which they can really make more money and this had been the main impression for most people or do have in mind.

We dont really care on what their reason is.We do need is that this fight should really push through because lots had been expecting for this thing to happen.We can really

able to know if Casimero is really just worth to those trash talks that he had said which did really provoked Inoue.

That's right, boxing isn't just a sport but also a trillion dollar business for the industry. Looking at that part that both fighters are great fighters but the thing is.
Fans are going to watch the upcoming fight because of the hotness of the trashtalks that has been blown by Casimero.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 04, 2021, 02:03:56 PM

Quote from: yazher on September 03, 2021, 05:07:07 AM

I think they should give him a chance to give him what he wants and they shouldn't give any reason to refuse his challenge. They should not give any reasons to delay or to postpone this fight because the fans right now are requesting this fight to happen as soon as possible. Inoue is not that kind of guy to back out to any challenge out there since he beat his opponents with his powerful blow to the body and it is effective since the day he stepped in the ring. Casimero on the other hand wanted to fight someone who wants to clash in the right without running like the Cuban fighter did and the perfect boxer for that is Inoue. I wonder why they need to go through some long negotiations just for these two good boxers to finish their business inside the ring.

Most of the time this is about the money, even if fighters want to fight each other above the ring the promoters are going to try to extract every single dollar they can out of the fight, something that is not wrong as it is their duty to try to see the interests of their fighters are being taken care of, but this creates delays in the fights we want to see to the point that some fights do not happen at all or take place many years later once the fighters are out of their prime.

Business is business and they would really be looking into something which they can really make more money and this had been the main impression for most people or do have in mind.

We dont really care on what their reason is.We do need is that this fight should really push through because lots had been expecting for this thing to happen.We can really

able to know if Casimero is really just worth to those trash talks that he had said which did really provoked Inoue.

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Quote from: yazher on September 03, 2021, 05:07:07 AM

I think they should give him a chance to give him what he wants and they shouldn't give any reason to refuse his challenge. They should not give any reasons to delay or to postpone this fight because the fans right now are requesting this fight to happen as soon as possible. Inoue is not that kind of guy to back out to any challenge out there since he beat his opponents with his powerful blow to the body and it is effective since the day he stepped in the ring. Casimero on the other hand wanted to fight someone who wants to clash in the right without running like the Cuban fighter did and the perfect boxer for that is Inoue. I wonder why they need to go through some long negotiations just for these two good boxers to finish their business inside the ring.

Most of the time this is about the money, even if fighters want to fight each other above the ring the promoters are going to try to extract every single dollar they can out of the fight, something that is not wrong as it is their duty to try to see the interests of their fighters are being taken care of, but this creates delays in the fights we want to see to the point that some fights do not happen at all or take place many years later once the fighters are out of their prime.

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~but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

No question about that, he would not reach his status now if he has not proven his worth in the past, and now, he is up to a big challenge because the challenge was accepted by Inoue, we just need to wait for the final venue and date of the right.

It's a must win for him if he wants to follow Pacman's journey, he is not getting any younger, so every fight has to be carefully chosen and should be won.

Yup Inoue is really a big challenge for John Riel Casimero, I am proud of Casimero in what he had attained, and I really like Naoya Inoue as a boxer and his style in boxing, well I really like both fighters but there is only one that needs to win, and if I could pick one that will be Casimero if he would win against Inoue then he might become very very popular indeed, but if Naoya Inoue would win this I think it is still OK Naoya has proven how dangerous he is inside the ring, the way he fights Nonito Donaire, I really thought that Donaire would not last but Nonito Donaire's fighting spirit is really remarkable, Jason Maloney by KO and Michael Dasmarinas by KO that speed and quickness is the one that John Riel Casimero might need to take note.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 04, 2021, 08:09:38 AM

We don't see the advantage because Manny is so hyped that time, he came from a big victory against Thurman, was scheduled to fight another undefeated fighter named Spence, so everyone really expected that he is the same Manny Pacquiao who dominates his opponent, but what we saw in that fight was the opposite, well, according to him his legs got tight but he still loses the fight, no excuse.

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Casimero vs Inoue, whoever loses, I'm sure there will be no excuses as these two likes each other.

I like that idea, there're no excuses as both still young and hunger to keep their fame high.

Casimero and Inoue both are interesting to watch out, both fighters are heavy punchers and ready to counter back when the call
bring them to defend and attack!

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 04, 2021, 06:59:31 AM

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 03, 2021, 05:03:01 PM

~but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

No question about that, he would not reach his status now if he has not proven his worth in the past, and now, he is up to a big challenge because the challenge was accepted by Inoue, we just need to wait for the final venue and date of the right.

It's a must win for him if he wants to follow Pacman's journey, he is not getting any younger, so every fight has to be carefully chosen and should be won.

^ Definitely right, look at Pacman or Manny Pacquiao and Ugas fight, Pacman is too confident even he knows that Ugas has an advantage on his height. A totally beast on Pacman's side. If Casimero will not take it seriously this fight, he will probably be the same as Pacman. I don't know and probably Casimero has been already practiced very well for this upcoming fight and yet there is ample time for both fighters to train themselves and prove the real champion.
Do you think who is in favor of this fight?

It's not only Pacquiao that was confident in that fight, even the fans are confident that he will win easily, in fact, there is some betting in our place that you just guess what round Ugas will be KO, and those who bet on that lose their bet. Also, it's not the first time that Manny has face a bigger and a taller boxer, but he beat all of them, so it's not really called an advantage since Ugas is facing a legendary boxer.

We don't see the advantage because Manny is so hyped that time, he came from a big victory against Thurman, was scheduled to fight another undefeated fighter named Spence, so everyone really expected that he is the same Manny Pacquiao who dominates his opponent, but what we saw in that fight was the opposite, well, according to him his legs got tight but he still loses the fight, no excuse.

Casimero vs Inoue, whoever loses, I'm sure there will be no excuses as these two likes each other.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 04, 2021, 03:33:24 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 03, 2021, 05:03:01 PM

~but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

No question about that, he would not reach his status now if he has not proven his worth in the past, and now, he is up to a big challenge because the challenge was accepted by Inoue, we just need to wait for the final venue and date of the right.

It's a must win for him if he wants to follow Pacman's journey, he is not getting any younger, so every fight has to be carefully chosen and should be won.

^ Definitely right, look at Pacman or Manny Pacquiao and Ugas fight, Pacman is too confident even he knows that Ugas has an advantage on his height. A totally beast on Pacman's side. If Casimero will not take it seriously this fight, he will probably be the same as Pacman. I don't know and probably Casimero has been already practiced very well for this upcoming fight and yet there is ample time for both fighters to train themselves and prove the real champion.
Do you think who is in favor of this fight?

It's not only Pacquiao that was confident in that fight, even the fans are confident that he will win easily, in fact, there is some betting in our place that you just guess what round Ugas will be KO, and those who bet on that lose their bet. Also, it's not the first time that Manny has face a bigger and a taller boxer, but he beat all of them, so it's not really called an advantage since Ugas is facing a legendary boxer.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 04, 2021, 03:33:24 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 03, 2021, 05:03:01 PM

~but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

No question about that, he would not reach his status now if he has not proven his worth in the past, and now, he is up to a big challenge because the challenge was accepted by Inoue, we just need to wait for the final venue and date of the right.

It's a must win for him if he wants to follow Pacman's journey, he is not getting any younger, so every fight has to be carefully chosen and should be won.

^ Definitely right, look at Pacman or Manny Pacquiao and Ugas fight, Pacman is too confident even he knows that Ugas has an advantage on his height. A totally beast on Pacman's side. If Casimero will not take it seriously this fight, he will probably be the same as Pacman. I don't know and probably Casimero has been already practiced very well for this upcoming fight and yet there is ample time for both fighters to train themselves and prove the real champion.
Do you think who is in favor of this fight?

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 03, 2021, 05:03:01 PM

~but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

No question about that, he would not reach his status now if he has not proven his worth in the past, and now, he is up to a big challenge because the challenge was accepted by Inoue, we just need to wait for the final venue and date of the right.

It's a must win for him if he wants to follow Pacman's journey, he is not getting any younger, so every fight has to be carefully chosen and should be won.

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Though Casimero is not humble as we want him to be, but I know most of the Filipinos still love to see him win, even against Donaire.

He is not, but in real life he is, some people said that, but it doesn't matter anymore as we didn't see that, what we see is him fighting in the ring and getting interviewed, so we just based our opinion on what we see. Casimero though talks a lot, most of them are bad words, but we can't deny that he is one of the best fighters in his division, probably rank number 2 now next to Inoue based on my personal opinion.

He has a youtube channel that you can follow his every training and vlogs about him, you can see that he is humble sometimes, he just doing that for publicity, well most people on youtube don't that to hype something, and I think he is doing that for the views, but maybe that is he's character but I have seen some of his videos, he really cares a lot all of his sparring partners that are just amateur boxers, and not taking seriously their fight, and just having fun, but not really to make fun of the person but to teach something, but sure you can not please all people and they will surely say something about you without further knowing the person, but still Casimero has proven lot with his fights and we can surely say that he is the next big thing after Donaire and Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 03, 2021, 03:15:59 PM

Though Casimero is not humble as we want him to be, but I know most of the Filipinos still love to see him win, even against Donaire.

He is not, but in real life he is, some people said that, but it doesn't matter anymore as we didn't see that, what we see is him fighting in the ring and getting interviewed, so we just based our opinion on what we see. Casimero though talks a lot, most of them are bad words, but we can't deny that he is one of the best fighters in his division, probably rank number 2 now next to Inoue based on my personal opinion.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on September 03, 2021, 02:52:46 PM

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 03, 2021, 08:06:50 AM

The Filipino fans would rather want to see Casimero fight Inoue than Donaire his fellow, it doesn't bring honor to the country compared to fighting Inoue and beating him. I know it's quite unlikely, but Casimero has the tools to beat Inoue in a fight, so we should find out soon.

How should you know that the Filipino fans don't want that fight? Did you have a data or you've asked some of your friends about it? Also, how can't it not bring honor to the country just because it's a Filipino vs Filipino fight? Either way though, this fight is going to be a really good thing because we will see where will Casimero's mouth drag him to with his fight against Inoue.

It is just sure a personal opinion about fighting fellow countrymen which I do somehow agree but doesn't mean that it wouldn't bring any honor to the country.The only thing differs is about

nationality on where people do love to see more on Casimero fighting Inoue since they do know that it is much more anticipating or interesting since Inoue is undefeated and also

they had already some previous match against Donaire which people will normally be eyeing for him to fight that hadn't something able to test it out.

Filipino vs Filipino is only good if there's no other opponent, Filipino vs Japanese would be great to watch as surely the Filipino fans will be on one side only. There's no data to prove but it's understood that once a Filipino fighter is fighting in another country, the support is always on him. Though Casimero is not humble as we want him to be, but I know most of the Filipinos still love to see him win, even against Donaire.

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Quote from: Sanugarid on September 03, 2021, 10:47:27 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 03, 2021, 08:06:50 AM

The Filipino fans would rather want to see Casimero fight Inoue than Donaire his fellow, it doesn't bring honor to the country compared to fighting Inoue and beating him. I know it's quite unlikely, but Casimero has the tools to beat Inoue in a fight, so we should find out soon.

How should you know that the Filipino fans don't want that fight? Did you have a data or you've asked some of your friends about it? Also, how can't it not bring honor to the country just because it's a Filipino vs Filipino fight? Either way though, this fight is going to be a really good thing because we will see where will Casimero's mouth drag him to with his fight against Inoue.

It is just sure a personal opinion about fighting fellow countrymen which I do somehow agree but doesn't mean that it wouldn't bring any honor to the country.The only thing differs is about

nationality on where people do love to see more on Casimero fighting Inoue since they do know that it is much more anticipating or interesting since Inoue is undefeated and also

they had already some previous match against Donaire which people will normally be eyeing for him to fight that hadn't something able to test it out.

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Schedules posted are not final so expect that there would might be some changes.

Indeed, most probably the article is based only on the statement of Casimero, Inoue has to also make some statement regarding the fight, if he says about the same date and venue, the most likely the information is very reliable. I don't want to get hype in this fight if there's no official statement yet from people who would promote this fight.

Changes might really happen and if Casimero did say the exact date, we can be dependent on it but at the same time to wait for the announcement of both parties.
Everyone is already hyped when someone has given the date and it's the fighter himself, Casimero. But we've forgotten and didn't chill for a moment to realize that there must be the final and official statement from their promoters and as well as for both of the boxers.

Promoters have their final say on this matter as they negotiate their terms here.
The boxers are just following their promoters go signal.
But if there is some unofficial statement from both fighters, it means, the likelihood of happening it for real is high.
This will be an interesting one as Casimero is getting the interest from boxing fans, because of his naughty antics.

Yes, we all knew about that. It's still their promoter that would dictate and say things that are related to the final stuff about this match. But I think that Casimero has given a date and we can also consider that since he's the one to fight and mostly involved in this match.
It's considered as leak information for this match to happen, otherwise, the other party might be reacting that he had leaked important information to most of the fans that are following this match and as well as both boxers.

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