[Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight - page 13.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 01, 2021, 02:12:15 PM

We do still need to wait for at least 4 months if that December schedule is been anticipated even though its a bit far but still it wouldnt matter as long this match would really be worth to watch and worth to wait.

I agree that there's no such much action on that Inoue vs Dasma fight and same goes with Casimero vs Rigo.We would see some full action when these two boxers would collide.

They should really make people's interest to be worth to see this one.

Yup. The wait won't matter at all as these two are champs and this match is going to be big as the other matches that we've waited before. It is incomparable with the other division matches but the wait will be worth it.

And on this match, the expectation of most of us is that there will be that much action and that's what we're about to wait. Is there already details about the venue of this match aside from the date?

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 01, 2021, 03:35:27 PM

I agree that there's no such much action on that Inoue vs Dasma fight and same goes with Casimero vs Rigo.

Dasma vs Inoue is better that the fight of Casimero vs Rigo.

Not much action for Dasma vs Inoue but the fight ended with a KO win by Inoue, Dasma felt his power that's why he was just protecting his body, unlike Casimero who can't him Rigo with clean shots because he was just running all night. And also, we can compare the record of Dasma and Rigo, Dasma is just an ordinary boxer, no name yet in boxing but Rigo is a champion, he beat Nonito but against Casimero, he chicken out.

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Taking into account the boxing world was stopped for more than a year I think most fighters can accommodate a second fight due to all the rest and time they had to recover from the previous fights, especially Inoue, since I saw his fight and he had no opposition and won easily so it is not like he has a lot of injuries to recover from, so I hope we can get to see those two fighting each other during this year at the soonest.

In the last fight against Dasmarinas, we can say that there's no major impact on Inoue. That fighter didn't even try to go close and make some blow by blow countering Inoue's attacks.

While with Casimero, we also didn't see any hard actions against Rigo, basing to those two last fights there's no need for them to take that long preparing if they really aiming to push this fight and meet each other inside the ring.

December is the target if I'm not mistaken. Most of the fans are waiting for the final say from both camps.

We do still need to wait for at least 4 months if that December schedule is been anticipated even though its a bit far but still it wouldnt matter as long this match would really be worth to watch and worth to wait.

I agree that there's no such much action on that Inoue vs Dasma fight and same goes with Casimero vs Rigo.We would see some full action when these two boxers would collide.

They should really make people's interest to be worth to see this one.

Waiting is not a problem if there's an assurance that the game will happen, the announcement seems to assure that they will give this fight before the end of the year. We are talking of this fight since the start of the pandemic, and this is the only time that it's getting close to reality, so we just have to be patient and trust the words of Inoue and Casimero.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 01, 2021, 01:48:26 PM

Quote from: Silberman on September 01, 2021, 11:30:02 AM

Taking into account the boxing world was stopped for more than a year I think most fighters can accommodate a second fight due to all the rest and time they had to recover from the previous fights, especially Inoue, since I saw his fight and he had no opposition and won easily so it is not like he has a lot of injuries to recover from, so I hope we can get to see those two fighting each other during this year at the soonest.

In the last fight against Dasmarinas, we can say that there's no major impact on Inoue. That fighter didn't even try to go close and make some blow by blow countering Inoue's attacks.

While with Casimero, we also didn't see any hard actions against Rigo, basing to those two last fights there's no need for them to take that long preparing if they really aiming to push this fight and meet each other inside the ring.

December is the target if I'm not mistaken. Most of the fans are waiting for the final say from both camps.

We do still need to wait for at least 4 months if that December schedule is been anticipated even though its a bit far but still it wouldnt matter as long this match would really be worth to watch and worth to wait.

I agree that there's no such much action on that Inoue vs Dasma fight and same goes with Casimero vs Rigo.We would see some full action when these two boxers would collide.

They should really make people's interest to be worth to see this one.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 01, 2021, 11:30:02 AM

Taking into account the boxing world was stopped for more than a year I think most fighters can accommodate a second fight due to all the rest and time they had to recover from the previous fights, especially Inoue, since I saw his fight and he had no opposition and won easily so it is not like he has a lot of injuries to recover from, so I hope we can get to see those two fighting each other during this year at the soonest.

In the last fight against Dasmarinas, we can say that there's no major impact on Inoue. That fighter didn't even try to go close and make some blow by blow countering Inoue's attacks.

While with Casimero, we also didn't see any hard actions against Rigo, basing to those two last fights there's no need for them to take that long preparing if they really aiming to push this fight and meet each other inside the ring.

December is the target if I'm not mistaken. Most of the fans are waiting for the final say from both camps.

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Is Inoue open to fight Casimero now?

I know its normal for some boxer to trashtalk because it can trigger your opponent to challenge you and see whose stronger but I dont like this behavior of Casimero.

Anyway their first scheduled fight were postponed last April so hopefully this will happen soon. Since like what the article stated, Casimero is willing to go to Inoue's territory just to fight him.

He is open to fight and he answered that they should do it inside the ring. But Casimero just came from a recent fight so there's still a resting time.
The thing is that we don't know if they're already communicating and setting this match as soon as possible.

They can schedule the fight by December, I'm sure Casimero had already had some rest now, and they can also start training as soon as the contract is signed. It's open to the public that Inoue wanted to have this fight this year, but until there's no contract signed, we can't assure we will see it this year.

For me the fight should happen next year, whether in US or in Inoue's Japan.

I agree that they need to rest first, one fight a year will be good enough. Besides although fans are still allowed to watch the fight live, it's better to happen in 2022 as more people have been vaccinated by then. And maybe they need to work out the terms of the fight and there could be a lot of back and forth changes

Taking into account the boxing world was stopped for more than a year I think most fighters can accommodate a second fight due to all the rest and time they had to recover from the previous fights, especially Inoue, since I saw his fight and he had no opposition and won easily so it is not like he has a lot of injuries to recover from, so I hope we can get to see those two fighting each other during this year at the soonest.

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The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

^ They are both aggressive fighters and I believe it is tougher to choose where to place a bet.
Though Casimero has gained too much attention it does mean he will potentially win this match, I believe that Inoue has better stamina than him.
I know that most commonly trash-talkers will gain too much attention but in an actual fight, they don't survive. However, let us see who will be gonna win, my bet is in Inoue.

It's always been tough to choose where to place our money because we don't know who's gonna win and how much we would win. As I've said before Inoue will be the favorite to win whoever he faces in this weight category, he is the uncrowned king of the Bantamweight division IMO but the road for the crown is not so easy with Casimero blocking the road.

I think, bookies will favor on Inoue here. But we may see the odds once there is official announcement of their fight as the announcement of Casimero is not yet official.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/8/31/22650419/john-riel-casimero-return-december-11-wants-inoue-donaire-boxing-news-2021

Seems that we will see another action packed fight before the end of this year. Will Casimero shut up if Inoue beats him? Or Casimero will beat Inoue?

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 31, 2021, 04:31:04 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 31, 2021, 04:15:01 PM

The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

^ They are both aggressive fighters and I believe it is tougher to choose where to place a bet.
Though Casimero has gained too much attention it does mean he will potentially win this match, I believe that Inoue has better stamina than him.
I know that most commonly trash-talkers will gain too much attention but in an actual fight, they don't survive. However, let us see who will be gonna win, my bet is in Inoue.

It's always been tough to choose where to place our money because we don't know who's gonna win and how much we would win. As I've said before Inoue will be the favorite to win whoever he faces in this weight category, he is the uncrowned king of the Bantamweight division IMO but the road for the crown is not so easy with Casimero blocking the road.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 31, 2021, 04:33:12 PM

Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 31, 2021, 04:31:04 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 31, 2021, 04:15:01 PM

The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

^ They are both aggressive fighters and I believe it is tougher to choose where to place a bet.
Though Casimero has gained too much attention it does mean he will potentially win this match, I believe that Inoue has better stamina than him.
I know that most commonly trash-talkers will gain too much attention but in an actual fight, they don't survive. However, let us see who will be gonna win, my bet is in Inoue.

If you believe they have an equal chance of winning the fight, then I suggest you put your bet on the underdog so you will get a good return of your money. Most likely the odds for Casimero to win will be at least x3, so that means if you bet $100, it will give you a return of $300 if you win.

Since Casimero is the underdog here, you can really have a good return if he wins and considering the hype and the recent match of Casimero, I believe he has a good chance to win over Inoue but of course, the clean record of Inoue is not so easy to destroy and many Filipinos already attempted it but they all failed. If the December match will push through, that could be a great fight to end the year, hopefully they can settle this one and have a good fight!

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 31, 2021, 04:31:04 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 31, 2021, 04:15:01 PM

The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

^ They are both aggressive fighters and I believe it is tougher to choose where to place a bet.
Though Casimero has gained too much attention it does mean he will potentially win this match, I believe that Inoue has better stamina than him.
I know that most commonly trash-talkers will gain too much attention but in an actual fight, they don't survive. However, let us see who will be gonna win, my bet is in Inoue.

If you believe they have an equal chance of winning the fight, then I suggest you put your bet on the underdog so you will get a good return of your money. Most likely the odds for Casimero to win will be at least x3, so that means if you bet $100, it will give you a return of $300 if you win.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 31, 2021, 04:15:01 PM

The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

^ They are both aggressive fighters and I believe it is tougher to choose where to place a bet.
Though Casimero has gained too much attention it does mean he will potentially win this match, I believe that Inoue has better stamina than him.
I know that most commonly trash-talkers will gain too much attention but in an actual fight, they don't survive. However, let us see who will be gonna win, my bet is in Inoue.

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the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

Maybe Casimero can close the odds, but still Inoue will be the favourite to win if they fight.

I agree that the Monster is a different breed and for me he hasn't reached his peak yet because he is still young. So just imagine in 2-3 years, but if he has cleaned this division then he should go up in weight class and challenge more champions.

The odds will not be near to Inoue's odds, though Casimero has gained some attention due to his technique, people still look at the previous fights of both fighters and Inoue has more impressive fights compared to Casimero. We are just excited to see them fight because there's none other that could potentially match Inoue's skills in this division.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 31, 2021, 11:41:41 AM

Fighting in front of your own crowd, that's adds up a lot and gives him confidence to KO his trash talking challenger.

And though I'm a fan of Casimero, I like to see how he would handle the pressure once fighting against the monster of Japan. if the news that is circulating is true, then we will likely see the fight in the last month of the year, and hopefully, they'll show some contract to ensure that everything is not just speculation.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 31, 2021, 08:21:23 AM

We can underestimate Casimero because he is not the kind of guy who is just a trash talk maker but certainly can give an explosive punch.

He already proved that he's not a champion if he doesn't bring his mouth into actions. He can bring damage for sure if Inoue will not take care and treat Casimero as an easy contender.

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But I believe Inoue can do better than him. A young guy who already fought Donaire and some champions, that he really could prove how he was on the lead to winnings.

Most of us see that way. Inoue's experienced fighting with those big names and a lot of exposure. The expectations for him were really high.

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Anyway, that pretty obvious that Inoue from Japan will have a huge odds and become the favourite of the game once they will face each other.

Fighting in front of your own crowd, that's adds up a lot and gives him confidence to KO his trash talking challenger.

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the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

Maybe Casimero can close the odds, but still Inoue will be the favourite to win if they fight.

I agree that the Monster is a different breed and for me he hasn't reached his peak yet because he is still young. So just imagine in 2-3 years, but if he has cleaned this division then he should go up in weight class and challenge more champions.

2-3 years he's still climbing the peak in that time line. Give him 5-7 years and he'll have his career peaked at 35 years old. I mean this kid is such a strong, fast, agile, and very distinctive fighter. An interesting to watch fighter, just like the Pacman.
If this Casimero and Inoue fight happens, odds are relatively high against Inoue. I'm like 80% sure Casimero can't beat Inoue. I don't underestimate Casimero here, but I'm just giving out my opinion base on their fighting history and fighting style.

We can underestimate Casimero because he is not the kind of guy who is just a trash talk maker but certainly can give an explosive punch. But I believe Inoue can do better than him. A young guy who already fought Donaire and some champions, that he really could prove how he was on the lead to winnings.
Anyway, that pretty obvious that Inoue from Japan will have a huge odds and become the favourite of the game once they will face each other.

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the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

Maybe Casimero can close the odds, but still Inoue will be the favourite to win if they fight.

I agree that the Monster is a different breed and for me he hasn't reached his peak yet because he is still young. So just imagine in 2-3 years, but if he has cleaned this division then he should go up in weight class and challenge more champions.

2-3 years he's still climbing the peak in that time line. Give him 5-7 years and he'll have his career peaked at 35 years old. I mean this kid is such a strong, fast, agile, and very distinctive fighter. An interesting to watch fighter, just like the Pacman.
If this Casimero and Inoue fight happens, odds are relatively high against Inoue. I'm like 80% sure Casimero can't beat Inoue. I don't underestimate Casimero here, but I'm just giving out my opinion base on their fighting history and fighting style.

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the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

Maybe Casimero can close the odds, but still Inoue will be the favourite to win if they fight.

I agree that the Monster is a different breed and for me he hasn't reached his peak yet because he is still young. So just imagine in 2-3 years, but if he has cleaned this division then he should go up in weight class and challenge more champions.

Bookies will rely on their odds to how gamblers react to this fight if these two signed the deal.

Personally, Inoue still the favorite even Casimero is also a champ but the numbers of fans still dominated by Inoue, this Monster added more fame, beating two previous Pinoy Champ! Donaire and Dasmarinas to name them.

It's now Casimero who is trying his luck trash talking Inoue to get his attention and accept his challenge.

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Quote from: harizen on August 30, 2021, 05:08:47 PM

After all, it's not just about the odds but since most people in this thread are Pinoy, a pick mostly for Casimero is likely to happen here.

Sometimes, we are disregarding the real strength of any PH opponents because of solid support. As in my case, I really see Inoue winning over Casimero for a 70% chance but of course, since I want to support Casimero I will disregard that. Besides, I really like to take a risk on high odds even at any other sports so will put some bucks for Casimero to win the fight.

But before that, this match doesn't have any progress until now. Currently, what we just read is rumors and speculations.

Yeah, most of here knows by heart that Casimero might lose the fight. But in our mind we wanted him to win as well, hehehe.

But we knows, maybe Casimero can still a big upset, he has the tools to do it, power in both hands and the self-believed that he can win every fight as he has travelled many times before and defeat his opponent in their own country.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 30, 2021, 11:53:02 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 30, 2021, 03:34:34 PM

the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

Maybe Casimero can close the odds, but still Inoue will be the favourite to win if they fight.

I agree that the Monster is a different breed and for me he hasn't reached his peak yet because he is still young. So just imagine in 2-3 years, but if he has cleaned this division then he should go up in weight class and challenge more champions.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 30, 2021, 03:34:34 PM

the highest was +425 for Casimero, however, I think the odds will likely reduce if they will fight soon because Casimero had won more fights after the fight between them was cancelled, but I'm pretty sure Inoue is still a heavy favorite.

Nope that doesn't equate to more chances of winning, I mean Pacquiao has a double digit wins but he's still lost to Ugas and other fights. It will likely reduce but I don't think it's because of that, Inoue is a different kind of breed of a boxer.

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