Topic: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 32. (Read 5338 times)

To be honest, I don't see him having a good chance of defeating Inoue. While he's undoubtedly skilled, facing Inoue, who is an exceptional and well-rounded fighter, his aggressive style might only lead to an early knockout. He'd be fortunate if he manages to land the first significant blow on Inoue, because if not, Inoue's power is likely too much to withstand.

Though Tapales is one of our own, I'm not allowing bias to affect my opinion. I'm simply expressing my honest viewpoint.

However, if it were Casimero, I believe the odds would be more evenly split.

Hopefully, it will happen both fighters agreed to fight each other, Inoue wants to conquer territories, Marlon Tapales wants a huge opportunity, Tapales is good but not good enough he tasted huge upsets and wants to do it again against Inoue, and his only chance is he can take Inoue's punch because so far no one can take Inoue's punch, we'll wait for the exact date of the match, and hopefully it will be a good fight that we all going to enjoy.

The question is, is this fight going to happen now?

Anyone can share any news though? it seems that we have gone off-topic with Floyd and other boxers in this thread.

Maybe everyone can see this Tapales fight here to see if he has a good chance to win,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krk0B0OeU8U

But there are no challengers from Japan during Floyd's reign, the closest we got is Manny Pacman from the Philippines.

However, after Floyd retires, he went to Japan and did a series of exhibitions matches for easy $20 m++ if I'm not mistaken.


Yes, that's their style, Floyd insists on the sweet science of not being hit. But for us fight fans, we love to see to see two boxers throwing everything in a fight and that's why we love the style of Manny Pacquiao.

Floyd is advising Inoue to fight in the US, where Floyd himself was hesitant to fight outside the country to ensure that the referees and judges were in his favor. If Inoue chooses to fight in Japan, then they would be no different from Floyd, as both of them would be avoiding risks.

The only distinction between the two is that Floyd is known for being a dull fighter, while Inoue is an engaging one. I wouldn't be surprised if Inoue retires undefeated, and people will always value him for being an entertaining fighter. It's safe to say they get their money's worth every time they watch his fights.

Yes, maybe Arum has the perfect plan for Inoue, he is known to do that, he has one use case in Manny wherein he turn him into a house hold name and one of the biggest boxers in history and now considered a legend.

As for Floyd, that's just his opinion though, as he is no longer in boxing, maybe just another opinion that does or doesn't matter, depending on who is going to hear that. But let's see if Inoue will realized that he needs Tapales more than any other fighter at 122 lbs for unification fight.

He's still far from that tough but Arum could shape him up close to him or if he'll be able to surpass Pacquiao, we'll see that as there's still a long path for his career.

Money is just talking about money and that's for Inoue. I agree that if Inoue wants more bucks and share for this fight, that's all he need to agree with and that's to fight in Vegas or anywhere in the US where the demand for the tickets will be sold out together with the PPV. I don't see anything wrong with that because with such events in boxing, it's true that it's the center of boxing and too many athletes want to take the spotlight by going there and having a match. As for Inoue, he's the main event and that's normal for him at his level now to be at the center of attraction if he's going to jump to another weigh class.

Maybe Floyd is just giving his advise to Inoue? Everyone of us wanted to see him fight in the US for sure as it is the mecca of boxing.

As for the rumours of Davis and Inoue, yeah, it was Stephen Espinoza, President of Showtime (SHO) who throws that idea to the public that it could be great if we will see this 2 pound pound fighter face off in the ring.

But for now it's a fantasy fight, even at a catchweight, I don't see it happening. Maybe if we see Inoue going as high as 130 lbs in the next couple of years then yeah maybe we can entertain it. But so far, Davis can go as high as 140-147 lbs.

Why does Floyd's statement matters? He said himself that he's just an ordinary fans now, just like us, because his time with the industry was already over and he certainly don't have any say whether the boxer chose to fight in his own country or not. But I get what's he trying to say because since Inoue's name grew bigger, he doesn't fight anymore outside Japan because they say that they can also get that much profit in their own country.

I hear that one too but both camps aren't saying something towards each other to make the flame grew bigger. Maybe that will happen soon if Inoue will climb another ladder again because right now, they are divisions apart each other.

Great point, he handles both career and whatever he thinks that may happen. It's his view since he still handling Inoue and
still keeping the hypes after winning another belt in another division.

Whatever the fate of this young champ, the opinion of his handler relies on how he performs and how he manages to win a fight.

He got his own identity and comparing him with Pacquiao, more on opinion base replies.

Yes, we all know that Arum is a boxing promoter, and so with that, he will make such bold statements that Inoue is better is subject for discussions and debate. And it's too early to say that Inoue will received greatness in his career.

And perhaps Arum wanted Inoue to fight not just in the Japan but in the US as well and fought Americans, Mexicans and other great nations in terms of boxing before we can tell if he will come closer to the achievement of Pacman and become a legend of his own generation.

Although these are very valid opinions, I would not dare to compare boxers from other times to these, firstly, due to different circumstances, I am not one of the people who can make a purchase from a legend like Pacquia to the boxers of today, now the boxers have other types of food, other types of treatment are other times, obviously at that time when Pacquiao was at that age he was a total monster, I can't compare abilities, that's what fights are for, to see who is the strongest, maybe if Inoue may turn out to be bigger than Pacquiao, but it's a glitch that I wouldn't dare to say, because it would be disrespectful, there are many factors that exist.

However, I like to praise good boxers, those who really care about the sport and not so much about making money, what I like about Pcquao and who is like Inoue is that they both don't say no to the challenges or revenge, I would not dare to buy an Inoue with a Mayewather because I see an Inoue much more professional than a Mayweather, and that for now with the two of them they can fight, in fact any of Pacquiao or they can fight with Inoue, the only thing is that their experience does not compare with the natural hildiad or talteno that the Japanese have, so it would be interesting to see them measure themselves, but not talking, but fighting.

There is also this:

Oleksandr Usyk Names The Best Fighter On The Planet




Source: https://boxing-social.com/news/oleksandr-usyk-names-best-fighter/


After all, they are opinions, this is not something I can tell, it is an opinion, what matters are the fights themselves, everything becomes a mere speculation, which is also valid.

Definitely not the overall achievement but rather "maybe" how Arum sees Inoue's skills and power at the current division.

Naoya Inoue surpassing Manny Pacquiao shouldn't be a topic in the first place since they both build their own path in different generations. Managing both Pacquiao and Inoue for several years, Bob Arum can speculate what he thinks is going to happen in the future and he can compare the past to the present.

We should just respect his statement as he knows both more than us.

If we are somehow to argue with that statement, then just keep it to ourselves.

More on hyping his cash-cow to me, like what you observe in terms of quality Pacman fought those rising champ who really established their names in this sport.

Though we never know how far Inoue can keep his clean records and how far he can climb to
follow and break Pacman's records, he is still young and capable of challenging more champs if he and
his camp will take that direction.

Perhaps what he meant that in terms of skills and most likely the power, Inoue could be better than Pacquiao. The thing with Manny though is that he really push himself to be great, meaning he is just a one dimensional fighter, but when he was trained by Roach, he uses his right hand effectively.

But in terms of popularity, no doubt that Manny can fill in live gates whoever he faces, have records in the top 10 as far as PPV numbers is, number 1 to be exact when he fought Floyd and I doubt that anyone can break that numbers in the next 50 years.

Presumably, over their entire careers, Bob has managed both fighters, so he understands their potential for the future. Pacman has proven to be the best in the world of boxing. Inoue, although currently a superstar and would make history if he completes and wins this fight, still falls short of surpassing what Pacman has already achieved as a boxer. Inoue will face plenty of challenges in the future; he may dominate in his current division, but moving up presents another challenge for him. Gaining weight again could affect his quickness, as per science.


Being undefeated is not necessarily an advantage in my opinion. Nowadays, there are plenty of undefeated boxers, and some of them are relatively unknown. It's the quality of fights that truly matters, and I would like to see Inoue taking risks against well-known boxers as he continues to build his own legacy.

Since there's no new update yet regarding the fight, let's discuss what Bob Arum said about his fighter Inoue, who he believes is probably better than Pacquiao.

What does he mean by that? Does he mean they have achieved more so far at the same age or division, or does he believe that Inoue would be able to surpass the success of Pacman? Many experts believe that there's a very slim chance that someone in the current generation would surpass what Pacman has achieved. So, if Inoue is special, he might be able to prove the experts wrong.

One advantage Inoue has over Pacman at the current age is that Inoue is still undefeated. However, if we compare the quality of opponents they have faced, I think Pacquiao has fought more challenging opponents than Inoue.

I agree, I know that his strong and indeed a monster just like his alias but he's getting overrated these days because of the hype that has been around him and being a four-division world champion isn't new to us because that is already achieved by numerous boxers, we should know that Inoue is still on the process and we aren't even sure if he can still add another division to his resume because it is still too early for that.

And fighting outside his country might not be new to him but that will force him to adjust as he's not in his comfortable zone anymore, everything will be a hostile as it's not his country and the rules that he's used might change as well just like how he wraps his fist because in US soil, that is sure not permitted.

Just a common writeups and we can't blame those people who continue to question Inoue's greatness, but yes if opportunity comes to him, why not take the chance of making more money.

In terms of taking Davis for me, it might be the great matchup for him if in case that negotiation will
happen, both at in their primes and both are a killer. Surely if hypes come out huge amount of income
will flow for both fighters' camps.

In my opinion, fighting on the US soil for Inoue is not far from happening.
With his name getting popular among boxing fans, it is only a matter of time before we see him on that stage.
And his promoter will have a very big influence on how he will negotiate such event to happen.
Sometimes it is up to the promoter how his boxer will move forward with his boxing career.
So for me, this will happen very soon. But of course, he can still get a lucrative fight even not on US soil.