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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.
Not good for Tapales, but he has other options as well, to fight another Japanese in defense of his title.

And maybe this is the link that you are referring, https://sports.tribune.net.ph/2023/08/02/inoue-unification-fight-talks-collapsing/

They need to negotiate and not just to accept that low baller, even Inoue will bring the most of the sale but the point that
Tapales is also a Champion/title holder should be consider in terms of the offers.

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It seems that Inoue’s promotional team hasn’t impressed Tapales’ people with their offer.

And if Tapales decides that the offer is not good enough, he will likely abandon plans of unifying all four championships in favor of making a defense against former world champion Tomoki Kameda.

I like Tapales and his team standing their grounds here, he has the two other belts as you have said, if there is any here, it could be 50/50 split as both has the belts. But let's see if Inoue's camp will soon realized that low balling the Filipino will not help Inoue unify all the belts at 122 lbs.

Maybe if Inoue is after in unifying all the belts, they will renegotiate and bring other options for
Tapales to agree, but if not, chances that Inoue will move to another division or will try to find
another challenger to defend his belt.
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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.
Not good for Tapales, but he has other options as well, to fight another Japanese in defense of his title.

And maybe this is the link that you are referring, https://sports.tribune.net.ph/2023/08/02/inoue-unification-fight-talks-collapsing/

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It seems that Inoue’s promotional team hasn’t impressed Tapales’ people with their offer.

And if Tapales decides that the offer is not good enough, he will likely abandon plans of unifying all four championships in favor of making a defense against former world champion Tomoki Kameda.

I like Tapales and his team standing their grounds here, he has the two other belts as you have said, if there is any here, it could be 50/50 split as both has the belts. But let's see if Inoue's camp will soon realized that low balling the Filipino will not help Inoue unify all the belts at 122 lbs.
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It will be an uphill climb for Tapales for sure. Naoya, on the other hand, will be fighting against somebody who is probably easier than Fulton. He's well prepared for this. As early as now, the odds are heavily in favor of Naoya. 1/10 to 1/12 for Naoya. That's extremely low. That's 1.08 to 1.1. Tapales has 6/1 to 13/2; that's 7.0 to 7.5.

Understandable though. No doubt that the majority can just compare this fight to another easy win by Naoya Inoue like when the Japanese monster claimed all the belts in the 118 lbs division when he beat Paul Butler. The odds prior to the said fight are almost the same as the prior odds right now with this fight.

Damn, no challenge for Inoue right now in the Super Bantamweight division. He's really overqualified here.

Even looking at the current rankings in this division, those top contenders are not even close and considered par with Inoue. Still waiting for Casimero though to climb the rank as he might give Inoue a better fight but considering his performance in his previous fight against Nghitumbwa, that kind of performance is a joke if fighting against Inoue. Aside from that, still no news for Quadro Alas's next fight making the chances slim for him and Inoue facing each other soon.
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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.

He should get what he demands. It's not a mandatory to defend his belts and if Inoue's camp will not give him the share that
he's asking he can cancel or deny the deal and look or wait for another that can give him better compensation.

If Inoue is really aiming for unifying the belts in this division, we will see another update regarding to this possible upcoming fight.

Tapales might be using his brain, chance to win is slim. Better to be wise and grab that decent amount of money if the camp of Inoue
give him his demand.
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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.

Well, to be honest, I cannot say that I'm shocked about this news because knowing Bob Arum, he will surely take advantage of everything including shortchanging Inoue's opponents even if they are champions like Tapales in this instance. And if I'm not mistaken, Tapales is with Sean Gibbons of MP Promotions, and we know what's the history between both promoters which I think is part of the reason why they have come to this situation.

Tapales should not allow this because he deserved to be treated as a champion. It might be the biggest paycheck in his career but he surely know what he deserves and being shortchanged is an insult. In the end, Inoue's camp will be forced to give what Fulton wanted because Inoue cannot unite all four belts if they lack two of those belts which are being held by Tapales.
Inoue's team will be forced to follow Tapales' team for the pot adjustment if they want to unite all 4 title belts in this division, if they did. Tapales should not allow something like that because he is obviously earned and own the two of these belts.
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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.

Well, to be honest, I cannot say that I'm shocked about this news because knowing Bob Arum, he will surely take advantage of everything including shortchanging Inoue's opponents even if they are champions like Tapales in this instance. And if I'm not mistaken, Tapales is with Sean Gibbons of MP Promotions, and we know what's the history between both promoters which I think is part of the reason why they have come to this situation.

Tapales should not allow this because he deserved to be treated as a champion. It might be the biggest paycheck in his career but he surely know what he deserves and being shortchanged is an insult. In the end, Inoue's camp will be forced to give what Fulton wanted because Inoue cannot unite all four belts if they lack two of those belts which are being held by Tapales.
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Anyhow, we can only see if Tapales will surprise us with an upset win although technically, Inoue really dominated him at everything.

I hate to say this but Tapales will just hand over the title to Inoue, in their meeting after Inoue's win against Fulton Tapales did not show confidence that he could beat Inoue, compared to Casimero who keeps daring him to fight him, its already given that Inoue will become the undisputed Super Bantamweight champion without serious opposition from anyone, he will sweep it and move on the higher division for more challenges, it's easier to make a plan when you are as good as Inoue.

Man, even if Tapales shows interest in his demeanor, I will still have the same views with this match up. Obviously, Tapales is a mismatch against Inoue, in all aspects. In fact there will be a huge chance for Inoue to knock him out if he will not change his fighting stance which is too open for Inoue has the speed and power.
I don't know what else to say here, but goodluck for Tapales facing the toughest opponent he'll ever have for the rest of his career, most probably. If he wins, it could be one of the biggest upset in boxing history.

It's kind of tough to say this because I don't want to underestimate someone specially if the outcome is still unknown but looking at Tapales while comparing him to Inoue, I don't see any factor(s) at all that will help him in his fight so that he can pull an upset in any way. I know that he got the other two belts and he deserve that, no doubt but that is the end of him because Inoue is now coming to take those belts away from him. Looking at Tapales is like seeing Paul Butler at 122 pounds.

Every fighter has their own strategy and technique which means both fighter had a chance of winning once they have the momentum and found the open spot to their opponent.  Without a doubt this fight is too close as we all know that both fighters are champions and they have their belt do protect no matter what happens.  Maybe in the first round inoue will have the momentum but one thing for sure a Filipino is a Filipino Tapales will show who he is.
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I've read a news article today stating that Marlon Tapales is not happy on the money offer of Inoue's camp, this might cause the cancellation of this fight in Team Inoue would not give in to the demand of Team Tapales.

I sympathize to the Filipino's camp because like Inoue, he is also a champion and the holder of the WBA and IBF belt, though not a crowd drawer but still he should some ample share of the pie not pay them pennies.

Just forgot the link but i will share once i find it.
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Anyhow, we can only see if Tapales will surprise us with an upset win although technically, Inoue really dominated him at everything.

I hate to say this but Tapales will just hand over the title to Inoue, in their meeting after Inoue's win against Fulton Tapales did not show confidence that he could beat Inoue, compared to Casimero who keeps daring him to fight him, its already given that Inoue will become the undisputed Super Bantamweight champion without serious opposition from anyone, he will sweep it and move on the higher division for more challenges, it's easier to make a plan when you are as good as Inoue.

Man, even if Tapales shows interest in his demeanor, I will still have the same views with this match up. Obviously, Tapales is a mismatch against Inoue, in all aspects. In fact there will be a huge chance for Inoue to knock him out if he will not change his fighting stance which is too open for Inoue has the speed and power.
I don't know what else to say here, but goodluck for Tapales facing the toughest opponent he'll ever have for the rest of his career, most probably. If he wins, it could be one of the biggest upset in boxing history.

It's kind of tough to say this because I don't want to underestimate someone specially if the outcome is still unknown but looking at Tapales while comparing him to Inoue, I don't see any factor(s) at all that will help him in his fight so that he can pull an upset in any way. I know that he got the other two belts and he deserve that, no doubt but that is the end of him because Inoue is now coming to take those belts away from him. Looking at Tapales is like seeing Paul Butler at 122 pounds.
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Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
Yes. Top shape, in condition, in rhythm, and everything needs to be perfect for Marlon Tapales to win this fight.
I am a Filipino and I don't underestimate him because I want to support Filipino boxers as they are the real chance of Filipino pride. We cannot do anything with basketball but we can do something in boxing and many Filipinos have already proven that.

I won't bet for Inoue, I promise that. But, I want to see more of Tapales showing how creative he will be in defeating the Monster. He ain't a bad fighter and defeating him will make this another achievement for us. As a gambler, they say not to be emotional but this fight is way far from that. It's about supporting your countryman against another so without a doubt I will take whatever underdog odds they will give..
It's look like we are in the same country mate and like hat you said we don't have chance to rise in the basketball league but in the boxing industries we already proven that Filipino is the best and the best example of that is the one and only 8 division champ Manny Pacquiao, anyways back to the topic Inoue vs tapales, which is for sure this is a good matchup as we all know that the monster prove that his is the best in bantamweight division but one thing  for sure Tapales will have a chance to win the match all he needs is to study the fighting style of the monster.

Tapales is also a champion so Inoue and other people should look at it as easy fight for Inoue or even a sure win for japanese monster since he might caught by a big shoot thrown by Tapales if he relax to much on their figh. Even though that guy is underdog for sure he will exert more efforts in this fight since if he could able to defeat Inoue then this is a big achievement of his boxing career and he might gain outrageous fame for defeating the Japanese monster they call.

Inoue is too smart to relax and give Tapales the confidence in this fight. On the contrary, as this is for the unified belt at super bantamweight, Inoue might train harder as he wants to be the second man to become a unified belt holder in 2 division. Recently, Crawford did that against Spence and annex his 3 belt.

And as much as we wanted to support Marlon Tapales as he has 2 great fights and he was the underdog in those fights but he manage to bet the odds and win. But not this time though, as Inoue will have all the advantages, just saying.
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Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
Yes. Top shape, in condition, in rhythm, and everything needs to be perfect for Marlon Tapales to win this fight.
I am a Filipino and I don't underestimate him because I want to support Filipino boxers as they are the real chance of Filipino pride. We cannot do anything with basketball but we can do something in boxing and many Filipinos have already proven that.

I won't bet for Inoue, I promise that. But, I want to see more of Tapales showing how creative he will be in defeating the Monster. He ain't a bad fighter and defeating him will make this another achievement for us. As a gambler, they say not to be emotional but this fight is way far from that. It's about supporting your countryman against another so without a doubt I will take whatever underdog odds they will give..
It's look like we are in the same country mate and like hat you said we don't have chance to rise in the basketball league but in the boxing industries we already proven that Filipino is the best and the best example of that is the one and only 8 division champ Manny Pacquiao, anyways back to the topic Inoue vs tapales, which is for sure this is a good matchup as we all know that the monster prove that his is the best in bantamweight division but one thing  for sure Tapales will have a chance to win the match all he needs is to study the fighting style of the monster.

Tapales is also a champion so Inoue and other people should look at it as easy fight for Inoue or even a sure win for japanese monster since he might caught by a big shoot thrown by Tapales if he relax to much on their figh. Even though that guy is underdog for sure he will exert more efforts in this fight since if he could able to defeat Inoue then this is a big achievement of his boxing career and he might gain outrageous fame for defeating the Japanese monster they call.

Yep! Just a lucky solid conversion will change his career. I mean, being an underdog doesn't mean that you automatically lose the
fight even it's not started yet.

All are speculations and will going to depend on how each fighter will do their extra work to train hard and prepare for the upcoming event.

Both are champ and who knows if what fate will bring to Tapales, a win will surely change his lifestyle.
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Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
Yes. Top shape, in condition, in rhythm, and everything needs to be perfect for Marlon Tapales to win this fight.
I am a Filipino and I don't underestimate him because I want to support Filipino boxers as they are the real chance of Filipino pride. We cannot do anything with basketball but we can do something in boxing and many Filipinos have already proven that.

I won't bet for Inoue, I promise that. But, I want to see more of Tapales showing how creative he will be in defeating the Monster. He ain't a bad fighter and defeating him will make this another achievement for us. As a gambler, they say not to be emotional but this fight is way far from that. It's about supporting your countryman against another so without a doubt I will take whatever underdog odds they will give..
It's look like we are in the same country mate and like hat you said we don't have chance to rise in the basketball league but in the boxing industries we already proven that Filipino is the best and the best example of that is the one and only 8 division champ Manny Pacquiao, anyways back to the topic Inoue vs tapales, which is for sure this is a good matchup as we all know that the monster prove that his is the best in bantamweight division but one thing  for sure Tapales will have a chance to win the match all he needs is to study the fighting style of the monster.

Tapales is also a champion so Inoue and other people should look at it as easy fight for Inoue or even a sure win for japanese monster since he might caught by a big shoot thrown by Tapales if he relax to much on their figh. Even though that guy is underdog for sure he will exert more efforts in this fight since if he could able to defeat Inoue then this is a big achievement of his boxing career and he might gain outrageous fame for defeating the Japanese monster they call.
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Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
Yes. Top shape, in condition, in rhythm, and everything needs to be perfect for Marlon Tapales to win this fight.
I am a Filipino and I don't underestimate him because I want to support Filipino boxers as they are the real chance of Filipino pride. We cannot do anything with basketball but we can do something in boxing and many Filipinos have already proven that.

I won't bet for Inoue, I promise that. But, I want to see more of Tapales showing how creative he will be in defeating the Monster. He ain't a bad fighter and defeating him will make this another achievement for us. As a gambler, they say not to be emotional but this fight is way far from that. It's about supporting your countryman against another so without a doubt I will take whatever underdog odds they will give..
It's look like we are in the same country mate and like hat you said we don't have chance to rise in the basketball league but in the boxing industries we already proven that Filipino is the best and the best example of that is the one and only 8 division champ Manny Pacquiao, anyways back to the topic Inoue vs tapales, which is for sure this is a good matchup as we all know that the monster prove that his is the best in bantamweight division but one thing  for sure Tapales will have a chance to win the match all he needs is to study the fighting style of the monster.
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Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
Yes. Top shape, in condition, in rhythm, and everything needs to be perfect for Marlon Tapales to win this fight.
I am a Filipino and I don't underestimate him because I want to support Filipino boxers as they are the real chance of Filipino pride. We cannot do anything with basketball but we can do something in boxing and many Filipinos have already proven that.

I won't bet for Inoue, I promise that. But, I want to see more of Tapales showing how creative he will be in defeating the Monster. He ain't a bad fighter and defeating him will make this another achievement for us. As a gambler, they say not to be emotional but this fight is way far from that. It's about supporting your countryman against another so without a doubt I will take whatever underdog odds they will give.
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Anyhow, we can only see if Tapales will surprise us with an upset win although technically, Inoue really dominated him at everything.

I hate to say this but Tapales will just hand over the title to Inoue, in their meeting after Inoue's win against Fulton Tapales did not show confidence that he could beat Inoue, compared to Casimero who keeps daring him to fight him, its already given that Inoue will become the undisputed Super Bantamweight champion without serious opposition from anyone, he will sweep it and move on the higher division for more challenges, it's easier to make a plan when you are as good as Inoue.

Man, even if Tapales shows interest in his demeanor, I will still have the same views with this match up. Obviously, Tapales is a mismatch against Inoue, in all aspects. In fact there will be a huge chance for Inoue to knock him out if he will not change his fighting stance which is too open for Inoue has the speed and power.
I don't know what else to say here, but goodluck for Tapales facing the toughest opponent he'll ever have for the rest of his career, most probably. If he wins, it could be one of the biggest upset in boxing history.

Yup we can call it a mismatch, even with Fulton, who we thought could be the bigger guy as he is a natural super bantamweight and has been in tough fight was no match to the monster.

And with that kind of performance and what Tapales has shown, it's hard to see how Marlon can put up a big upset here. He really need to be in top shape, super fast and power in both hands. But he is not a natural power puncher and everything points to Inoue to win in another spectacular knockout.
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Did he mean another Filipino knockout for Inoue? It's possible, but I doubt that it will 2nd round knockout. For sure Tapales, has witnessed Inoue's power first hand so they might devised a different strategy in this fight. But it could be the same results though.


I don't konw if Tapales can make the right strategy to beat Inoue, as the latter is a difficult opponent to defeat. Inoue possesses both power and speed, and on top of that, he has a high ring IQ, enabling him to make adjustments during the fight to ensure victory. Tapales might have been lucky when he beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev, but it's unlikely to happen against Inoue.

Yes, and it's different that you see him fight, even at a closer look and says that you see some flaws in games. As compare to be with him in the ring, with just the 2 of you dancing around. You can ask Fulton about that, initially he said that he is not afraid to go toe to toe and be technical.

But when they are in the ring, he is reluctant to throw a punch because he is afraid of the counter and the power. So it's very hard to see what kind of right strategy Tapales will do against the Monster and it seems that we don't have the blue print yet on how to defeat him.
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Did he mean another Filipino knockout for Inoue? It's possible, but I doubt that it will 2nd round knockout. For sure Tapales, has witnessed Inoue's power first hand so they might devised a different strategy in this fight. But it could be the same results though.


I don't konw if Tapales can make the right strategy to beat Inoue, as the latter is a difficult opponent to defeat. Inoue possesses both power and speed, and on top of that, he has a high ring IQ, enabling him to make adjustments during the fight to ensure victory. Tapales might have been lucky when he beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev, but it's unlikely to happen against Inoue.
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It's gonna be another Nonito Donaire I guess lol. But I really hope they give us both a fight that we can enjoy.
There's a possibility that we will witness the same, but one thing I'm sure about Tapales is that he will come to fight. He is not like other boxers who will just fight Inoue and hope to survive. Both Tapales and Inoue are considered warriors, and obviously, Inoue has the upper hand since he has more advanced skills and power. However, you never know, upsets can happen in boxing.
Did he mean another Filipino knockout for Inoue? It's possible, but I doubt that it will 2nd round knockout. For sure Tapales, has witnessed Inoue's power first hand so they might devised a different strategy in this fight. But it could be the same results though.

Although Tapales is a Filipino, it doesn't mean we should blindly support him. As gamblers, we know that if he weren't a Filipino, we would choose Inoue as he is the better fighter. I'm speaking from the standpoint of a gambler rather than just a pure fan.
There are really fans that supports and backs their boxers, not matter what. Even if they blindly bet for their guy to win, even if the odds are pretty much stack against them, just like in this case and you can't blame them for supporting Tapales to go and win in an upset.
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It's gonna be another Nonito Donaire I guess lol. But I really hope they give us both a fight that we can enjoy.
There's a possibility that we will witness the same, but one thing I'm sure about Tapales is that he will come to fight. He is not like other boxers who will just fight Inoue and hope to survive. Both Tapales and Inoue are considered warriors, and obviously, Inoue has the upper hand since he has more advanced skills and power. However, you never know, upsets can happen in boxing.

Although Tapales is a Filipino, it doesn't mean we should blindly support him. As gamblers, we know that if he weren't a Filipino, we would choose Inoue as he is the better fighter. I'm speaking from the standpoint of a gambler rather than just a pure fan.
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Anyhow, we can only see if Tapales will surprise us with an upset win although technically, Inoue really dominated him at everything.

I hate to say this but Tapales will just hand over the title to Inoue, in their meeting after Inoue's win against Fulton Tapales did not show confidence that he could beat Inoue, compared to Casimero who keeps daring him to fight him, its already given that Inoue will become the undisputed Super Bantamweight champion without serious opposition from anyone, he will sweep it and move on the higher division for more challenges, it's easier to make a plan when you are as good as Inoue.

Man, even if Tapales shows interest in his demeanor, I will still have the same views with this match up. Obviously, Tapales is a mismatch against Inoue, in all aspects. In fact there will be a huge chance for Inoue to knock him out if he will not change his fighting stance which is too open for Inoue has the speed and power.
I don't know what else to say here, but goodluck for Tapales facing the toughest opponent he'll ever have for the rest of his career, most probably. If he wins, it could be one of the biggest upset in boxing history.
Exactly my thoughts, even if he adapts a different fighting stance to cover up for this fight it still wouldn't be enough given that Inoue is just leagues better than him as a fighter. If he does win this which is a big if, seeing as how everything is literally stacked against Tapales fight-wise this will not just be a massive upset in Inoue's part, this will definitely go down in the history of boxing. But oh my god does this look like a fight that Tapales cannot win even if he wanted to, which at this state isn't even something that we're guaranteed of anymore given the fact that Tapales is just not confident about winning this bout. It's gonna be another Nonito Donaire I guess lol. But I really hope they give us both a fight that we can enjoy.
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