[Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 43.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 26, 2023, 09:33:09 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2023, 02:13:03 AM

@bisdak40. The fight is speculated to occur on November. The venue might also be in Japan. However, Inoue's promoters should begin organizing his fights in Las Vegas if they want him to become a big name like Pacman.

Thanks for this information mate, have already updated the OP and also the title, reflecting November as the tentative date of the fight.

I also wonder why have they not bring Inoue to the Sin City where he can be more popular if he frequents there. Anyway, it is up to Top Rank what is good or not good for their cash cow.

Quote from: Darker45 on July 26, 2023, 08:46:04 PM

Well, Tapales has the chance, but I doubt he will be able to dethrone Inoue. Regardless, however, this is the fight of his life. This is already a huge achievement for him. To be given the chance to face Naoya and, more importantly, to become the unified champion, is a big opportunity he couldn't afford to miss. He should be giving his all not just during the fight but even during the training. Defeating Naoya and unifying the belts mean a lot.

Agree, this is a tough one for our compatriot but the fight itself is already a win for Tapales as seldom a Filipino boxer will be on this kind of stage, biggest fight of his life and for sure the biggest payday as of date. The good thing about Filipino boxers when up against the world and nobody expected him to win, it will give them the motivation and often they rise to the occasion and shock the whole world when the final bell rung.

Inoue has fought in the US, but I do agree, Bob Arum knows the blue print of bringing Inoue to the US and have his name etch just like Pacquiao. But I guess Arum's counterpart in Japan doesn't want to take the risk of having Inoue fighting in the US for now. They prepare in the comfort of their own home court. But for us, the real test for Inoue is really in the US because of the huge boxing fans there. Maybe if he goes up again in weight and challenges for the belt at 126 lbs, it should be in the US by that time. As for this fight, Tapales is a huge under dog here, no doubt and because of that performance by Inoue, almost everyone is going to expect a knockout here.

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 26, 2023, 10:49:15 PM

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Quote from: Darker45 on July 26, 2023, 08:46:04 PM

Well, Tapales has the chance, but I doubt he will be able to dethrone Inoue. Regardless, however, this is the fight of his life. This is already a huge achievement for him. To be given the chance to face Naoya and, more importantly, to become the unified champion, is a big opportunity he couldn't afford to miss. He should be giving his all not just during the fight but even during the training. Defeating Naoya and unifying the belts mean a lot.

Agree, this is a tough one for our compatriot but the fight itself is already a win for Tapales as seldom a Filipino boxer will be on this kind of stage, biggest fight of his life and for sure the biggest payday as of date. The good thing about Filipino boxers when up against the world and nobody expected him to win, it will give them the motivation and often they rise to the occasion and shock the whole world when the final bell rung.

Well, we can only hope so.

Yeah, I agree that we seem to take motivation from being the underdog and when nobody is expecting anything from us. It's like a huge amount of baggage is taken off if we have nothing to lose or if we're going against the world.

Anyway, it's probably expected that this fight will be held in Japan. Naoya very seldom fights outside of his home country. But Tapales isn't a stranger to fighting in Japan and against Japanese fighters. If I'm not mistaken, Naoya is his 5^th Japanese opponent and this is also his 5^th time fighting there. So it's probably not a huge factor for him to once again fight against a Japanese opponent in his home court.

And just like how Tapales beat Akhmadaliev in his own game, maybe there will be a small chance for Tapales to upset the Japanese. It's going to be a long shot, but who knows, when we least expected that someone is going to lose in a fight, suddenly, he doesn't have any pressure on his side and just play and fight as if nothing to lose.

I agree that it will definitely be in Japan again, but being Asian, I think Tapales will have no problem in Japan. And as you have said, he is used to fighting in their backyard so it will not be a disadvantage for him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 26, 2023, 09:33:09 PM

Quote from: Darker45 on July 26, 2023, 08:46:04 PM

Well, Tapales has the chance, but I doubt he will be able to dethrone Inoue. Regardless, however, this is the fight of his life. This is already a huge achievement for him. To be given the chance to face Naoya and, more importantly, to become the unified champion, is a big opportunity he couldn't afford to miss. He should be giving his all not just during the fight but even during the training. Defeating Naoya and unifying the belts mean a lot.

Agree, this is a tough one for our compatriot but the fight itself is already a win for Tapales as seldom a Filipino boxer will be on this kind of stage, biggest fight of his life and for sure the biggest payday as of date. The good thing about Filipino boxers when up against the world and nobody expected him to win, it will give them the motivation and often they rise to the occasion and shock the whole world when the final bell rung.

Well, we can only hope so.

Yeah, I agree that we seem to take motivation from being the underdog and when nobody is expecting anything from us. It's like a huge amount of baggage is taken off if we have nothing to lose or if we're going against the world.

Anyway, it's probably expected that this fight will be held in Japan. Naoya very seldom fights outside of his home country. But Tapales isn't a stranger to fighting in Japan and against Japanese fighters. If I'm not mistaken, Naoya is his 5^th Japanese opponent and this is also his 5^th time fighting there. So it's probably not a huge factor for him to once again fight against a Japanese opponent in his home court.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2023, 02:13:03 AM

@bisdak40. The fight is speculated to occur on November. The venue might also be in Japan. However, Inoue's promoters should begin organizing his fights in Las Vegas if they want him to become a big name like Pacman.

Thanks for this information mate, have already updated the OP and also the title, reflecting November as the tentative date of the fight.

I also wonder why have they not bring Inoue to the Sin City where he can be more popular if he frequents there. Anyway, it is up to Top Rank what is good or not good for their cash cow.

Quote from: Darker45 on July 26, 2023, 08:46:04 PM

Well, Tapales has the chance, but I doubt he will be able to dethrone Inoue. Regardless, however, this is the fight of his life. This is already a huge achievement for him. To be given the chance to face Naoya and, more importantly, to become the unified champion, is a big opportunity he couldn't afford to miss. He should be giving his all not just during the fight but even during the training. Defeating Naoya and unifying the belts mean a lot.

Agree, this is a tough one for our compatriot but the fight itself is already a win for Tapales as seldom a Filipino boxer will be on this kind of stage, biggest fight of his life and for sure the biggest payday as of date. The good thing about Filipino boxers when up against the world and nobody expected him to win, it will give them the motivation and often they rise to the occasion and shock the whole world when the final bell rung.

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Well, Tapales has the chance, but I doubt he will be able to dethrone Inoue. Regardless, however, this is the fight of his life. This is already a huge achievement for him. To be given the chance to face Naoya and, more importantly, to become the unified champion, is a big opportunity he couldn't afford to miss. He should be giving his all not just during the fight but even during the training. Defeating Naoya and unifying the belts mean a lot.

It will be an uphill climb for Tapales for sure. Naoya, on the other hand, will be fighting against somebody who is probably easier than Fulton. He's well prepared for this. As early as now, the odds are heavily in favor of Naoya. 1/10 to 1/12 for Naoya. That's extremely low. That's 1.08 to 1.1. Tapales has 6/1 to 13/2; that's 7.0 to 7.5.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 26, 2023, 07:20:58 PM

Quote from: livingfree on July 26, 2023, 06:30:56 PM

A few months of preparation and rest would be enough for Inoue? Well, this is making me admire him more.

The odds will surely again be too low for Inoue and will be greater for Tapales. I guess that everyone is going to put their money on the lines for Inoue even the odds will be definitely low and not that much at all.

If Inoue has said that he's got a goal until the end of this year then we will see if he's a man of honor for his own words.

Unless Inoue suffers an injury again, I think as long as the two camps agreed, the fight will happen somewhere in November. Besides Inoue isn't beaten in his fight against Fulton, you can see it on how clear his face is. With the fight against Tapales, I think Inoue will also knock Tapales out. It is more likely to happen because 2 of the 3 losses of Tapales are stoppage. This simply clear that Tapales isn't that tough to receive Inoue's punch without any problem.

That too. We saw how destructive Inoue's right hand is. If Tapales’ previous fights were from stoppage simply because he couldn’t take more damage, it’s entirely possible that Inoue will end this fight early, too. Most bets would surely be on whether the fight will go the distance or not (someone will win by decision). If Tapales wants to win, he surely needs to work on his endurance, stamina, and strength. Score as much points as possible and look for potential openings.

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Quote from: livingfree on July 26, 2023, 06:30:56 PM

A few months of preparation and rest would be enough for Inoue? Well, this is making me admire him more.

The odds will surely again be too low for Inoue and will be greater for Tapales. I guess that everyone is going to put their money on the lines for Inoue even the odds will be definitely low and not that much at all.

If Inoue has said that he's got a goal until the end of this year then we will see if he's a man of honor for his own words.

Unless Inoue suffers an injury again, I think as long as the two camps agreed, the fight will happen somewhere in November. Besides Inoue isn't beaten in his fight against Fulton, you can see it on how clear his face is. With the fight against Tapales, I think Inoue will also knock Tapales out. It is more likely to happen because 2 of the 3 losses of Tapales are stoppage. This simply clear that Tapales isn't that tough to receive Inoue's punch without any problem.

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 26, 2023, 06:37:05 PM

Inoue won't fight whoever comes his way but rather on where he can get something like to get more belts or any other achievements since he's not willing to fight Casimero which is long time want by many boxing fans. But since for his wants Tapales will be a perfect fit so I guess this is more close to happen and lets wait for this update and I guess it will also happen this year.

I also want to see Inoue fight outside in Japan since if he decide to play always in his country then his popularity eill be on asian country only he need to step up and fight on bigger ring so that he will be known on USA.

The Bantamweight will be an easy ride for Inoue to conquer the real challenge, is in the featherweight division.

WBO: Robeisy Ramirez

IBF: Luis Alberto Lopez

WBA: Leigh Wood

WBC: Rey Vargas

These are the champions in their particular organizations and these are tough fighters who if they ever step into that division will be faced with serious challenges, I see him stepping into that division it will not be hard for Inoue to put in more muscles.

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Tapales lacks the speed, strength, and overall stamina to go against Inoue. Fulton, who held the title, had a hard time. going on against the Japanese boxer. There's just not a lot of names that you can match against Inoue who has the chance to beat him in a straight-up brawl. Most probably the odds will swing hard for Inoue, and it will not be worth betting into unless you put on a truckload of cash on the guy.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 04:15:09 PM

Quote from: Jating on July 26, 2023, 12:33:19 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:28:22 PM

I don't think Tapales has the speed to match Inoue. Looking at those names he'd beaten, I can't see anyone familiar. But I saw him after Inoue -Fulton fight, he was asking for it which Inoue also said they gonna be fighting before 2024. Inoue is stashing a lot of money.

Speed is one, but then Tapales will have to contend about the power too of Inoue. He witnessed how he just go and steam roll Stephen Fulton into a knockout win. Fulton has a good chin and defense, but for a split second that he put his arms down, it's over as Inoue was able to see that small hole and punch it.

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I can see another KO. If Fulton didn't make it, so will Tapaless. I checked some of his fights on youtube, he is a small tough fighter though. I guess he is up to making money as well regardless of the result.

I would agree, maybe it might take less than 8 rounds for Inoue to knockout Tapales. And it's hard to imagine on how a boxer is going to defeat Inoue. Maybe he should be taller than Inoue has a good chin and a speed that can match Inoue and of course the timing to counter as well and I doubt that Tapales has that tools in his arsenal.

Tapales I think has a good balance that's one tool. They did that verbal arrangement in less than 5 minutes. Having an interpreter in the interview makes it easy for these fighters to just give it a go. Inoue also proves that he will fight whoever comes his way. This is a lot braver than those pickers. Only a few boxers do this.

4 divisions is already an achievement for a boxer of his size. I wonder if he could often get out of Japan to fight more with audiences who are not so friendly. Like in Tapales country.

Inoue won't fight whoever comes his way but rather on where he can get something like to get more belts or any other achievements since he's not willing to fight Casimero which is long time want by many boxing fans. But since for his wants Tapales will be a perfect fit so I guess this is more close to happen and lets wait for this update and I guess it will also happen this year.

I also want to see Inoue fight outside in Japan since if he decide to play always in his country then his popularity eill be on asian country only he need to step up and fight on bigger ring so that he will be known on USA.

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A few months of preparation and rest would be enough for Inoue? Well, this is making me admire him more.

The odds will surely again be too low for Inoue and will be greater for Tapales. I guess that everyone is going to put their money on the lines for Inoue even the odds will be definitely low and not that much at all.

If Inoue has said that he's got a goal until the end of this year then we will see if he's a man of honor for his own words.

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Quote from: Jating on July 26, 2023, 12:33:19 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:28:22 PM

I don't think Tapales has the speed to match Inoue. Looking at those names he'd beaten, I can't see anyone familiar. But I saw him after Inoue -Fulton fight, he was asking for it which Inoue also said they gonna be fighting before 2024. Inoue is stashing a lot of money.

Speed is one, but then Tapales will have to contend about the power too of Inoue. He witnessed how he just go and steam roll Stephen Fulton into a knockout win. Fulton has a good chin and defense, but for a split second that he put his arms down, it's over as Inoue was able to see that small hole and punch it.

Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:28:22 PM

I can see another KO. If Fulton didn't make it, so will Tapaless. I checked some of his fights on youtube, he is a small tough fighter though. I guess he is up to making money as well regardless of the result.

I would agree, maybe it might take less than 8 rounds for Inoue to knockout Tapales. And it's hard to imagine on how a boxer is going to defeat Inoue. Maybe he should be taller than Inoue has a good chin and a speed that can match Inoue and of course the timing to counter as well and I doubt that Tapales has that tools in his arsenal.

Tapales I think has a good balance that's one tool. They did that verbal arrangement in less than 5 minutes. Having an interpreter in the interview makes it easy for these fighters to just give it a go. Inoue also proves that he will fight whoever comes his way. This is a lot braver than those pickers. Only a few boxers do this.

4 divisions is already an achievement for a boxer of his size. I wonder if he could often get out of Japan to fight more with audiences who are not so friendly. Like in Tapales country.

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Tapales has got little to prove and a lot to gain. But that is provided that he could stand against Inoue in the first place. Inoue is still in his prime and there's no stopping this beast of a fighter in his quest to claim belts. While there's a probabilistic chance for Inoue to lose this fight and hand the belt to Tapales, I don't think the latter has what it takes to beat Inoue in a one-on-one knock-off. Tapales best not aim for heights that are still far from his reach else he risks a devastating loss that may upturn his career. Inoue remains undefeated and I don't think someone who's yet to prove himself in the ring and the boxing community's got the chance and the cajones to beat him willy-nillly. Until then we just had to stay hoping that this fight goes through cause even if Tapales doesn't have anything of substance to prove in his name, it's still going to be interesting to see how Inoue takes all his fight with known and obscure fighters.

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Inoue has the upperhand in this. To some it would be a disadvantage 'coz he won't be able to rest for long but on the other end, he's on fire from his recent TKO Victory. As we all know, Tapeles has quite having a not so perfect stats for his career unlike with Inoue having 25 wins without any loss, and 22 by way of KO, which is obviously impressive. Stats indeed won't guarantee the winner but it is for sure a factor; it won't be in such numbers for nothing. There's still hope for Tapales for this match if he qould be more agressive 'coz if not, he would be pounded more likely by Inoue before he does. However if the wind would change on majority's expectation, then this would be a huge break for Tapales.

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Ain't surprising me that Inoue vs Tapales will be made this year because the latter will surely go and accept the fight because this is his chance to be in a much bigger stage as it will be the undisputed title after defeating the former 2-belt champion, Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

Moreover, Naoya Inoue wasn't heavily injured during his fight against Steph Fulton and so a November fight is quite possible.

It pains me to say this to my fellow countrymen but I don't think that Tapales got a good chance in defeating Inoue, he'll be just a stepping stone for the Japanese boxer to become the 1st undisputed champion at 122 since the four belt era was established.

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:28:22 PM

I don't think Tapales has the speed to match Inoue. Looking at those names he'd beaten, I can't see anyone familiar. But I saw him after Inoue -Fulton fight, he was asking for it which Inoue also said they gonna be fighting before 2024. Inoue is stashing a lot of money.

Speed is one, but then Tapales will have to contend about the power too of Inoue. He witnessed how he just go and steam roll Stephen Fulton into a knockout win. Fulton has a good chin and defense, but for a split second that he put his arms down, it's over as Inoue was able to see that small hole and punch it.

Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:28:22 PM

I can see another KO. If Fulton didn't make it, so will Tapaless. I checked some of his fights on youtube, he is a small tough fighter though. I guess he is up to making money as well regardless of the result.

I would agree, maybe it might take less than 8 rounds for Inoue to knockout Tapales. And it's hard to imagine on how a boxer is going to defeat Inoue. Maybe he should be taller than Inoue has a good chin and a speed that can match Inoue and of course the timing to counter as well and I doubt that Tapales has that tools in his arsenal.

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I don't think Tapales has the speed to match Inoue. Looking at those names he'd beaten, I can't see anyone familiar. But I saw him after Inoue -Fulton fight, he was asking for it which Inoue also said they gonna be fighting before 2024. Inoue is stashing a lot of money.

I can see another KO. If Fulton didn't make it, so will Tapaless. I checked some of his fights on youtube, he is a small tough fighter though. I guess he is up to making money as well regardless of the result.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 26, 2023, 10:36:29 AM

I know Marlon Tapales will be a super underdog here after Inoue defeated Stephen Fulton in a knockout but I still want to put my support for my countryman.
I just hope he will prepare very hard before the fight happens because he will need it. Prepare his body for hard punches and prepare his chin to accept such tremendous punches from The Monster.
I am not underestimating him but that enhances his chance to win this fight. Anyway, I've heard that he also wants to face Inoue. "Be careful what you wish for."

I also support Tapales since I would love to see our fellow countryman be the undisputed champion of 122 lbs. and at the same time put a stop on the rampaging monster. But it is an obvious matter that the monster had proven that he can shut down even the best of the super bantamweight class, but definitely I admire Tapales for his courage, not to duck and even initiate the deal to fight for the unification of the titles.

Quote from: danherbias07 on July 26, 2023, 10:36:29 AM

To avoid being KO'ed, that should be his goal because he can win it if he can score with his jabs while Inoue is being aggressive with too much hunger to claim all the titles. That will be his weakness, better take advantage of that.

That is all the goal of Inoue's opponent but miserably failed at the end. Aside from avoiding this, Tapales camp must study the angles and movement of Inoue keenly so that Tapales can avoid such a situation. Also, Tapales should study how to counter that body-to-head combination of Inoue which is proven to be very effective to his prior opponents.

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Bob Arum seems fine with this fight so we will most likely see this on the target date. The only thing I see that's going to hinder or stall the negotiation is the fight purse. I think 60-40 favoring Inoue is going to be the ideal deal for Tapales.

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 26, 2023, 01:27:49 AM

[....]Tapales' record is unimpressive.

Tapales boxing record may not be as impressive as Inoue but 37-3-0 with 51% KO percentage is pretty damn good to anyone who is going to look at it objectively.

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I know Marlon Tapales will be a super underdog here after Inoue defeated Stephen Fulton in a knockout but I still want to put my support for my countryman.
I just hope he will prepare very hard before the fight happens because he will need it. Prepare his body for hard punches and prepare his chin to accept such tremendous punches from The Monster.
I am not underestimating him but that enhances his chance to win this fight. Anyway, I've heard that he also wants to face Inoue. "Be careful what you wish for."

To avoid being KO'ed, that should be his goal because he can win it if he can score with his jabs while Inoue is being aggressive with too much hunger to claim all the titles. That will be his weakness, better take advantage of that.

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