[Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 44.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 25, 2023, 09:15:32 PM

Not belittling the Filipino here, but I think Tapales will have a slim chance against the monster Inoue. We have seen how he just eruption on American Fulton, the 2 belt champion as well and just didn't give him the breathing room and I don't think that Fulton win a round against Inoue and then the knockout power of Inoue will be too much for anyone.

So not sure what strategy the camp of Tapales will do against Inoue. Naoya is just reaching his prime right now and it's hard to stop a fighter like that who is very complete in my opinion.

I’m a Filipino and I agree to your valid concern about Tapales having a slim chance. Even the general Filipino community think the same way since Tapales skills is inferior compared to Inoue. Most of us think that Casemero should be the one Inoue facing for a better matchup.

Honestly speaking, Naoya is a monster after his fight against Fulton. His punch is quick and very powerful which is very hard to counter by slow heavy blower like Tapales. I really think Tapales should not take this fight to save his career.

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Quote from: Westinhome on July 26, 2023, 08:30:25 AM

Because Inoue had four time world champion till now.So he had his second plan against the opponent all the time.When the plan A is failure,subsequently he will execute the plan B for his opponents.This made him four time world champion and we don’t know how his game will be outside the Japan.So Inoue will have more pressure to prove himself in this game.

In short, Inoue is a very smart boxer; he has a lot of strategies in the ring and can make adjustments easily. The only time I saw Inoue hurt was during his fight with Donaire, the first one, as in the second fight, he knocked Donaire out early. I believe Inoue learned from that mistake and will avoid it from happening again. After defeating Fulton, his confidence is now sky-high.

Donaire was actually wrong with his prediction when he said that Fulton had a slight edge.

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-i-give-slight-edge-fulton-inoue-never-fought-anybody-like-fulton--176254

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Quote from: Questat on July 26, 2023, 12:09:57 AM

I was thinking of making a thread of this particular fight, but you made it first. Hehe.

Anyway, this fight is going to be great for sure. Tapales is quite bigger than Inoue, but we all know the power of Inoue. Personally, I do believe that Inoue would still win the fight as he is very dominant. I think no one can stop him in the current division he is at. His win against Fulton is a big statement that he could dominate the division again, so I will already book this; it will be another Inoue's KO win.

It says it's going to happen this year, so we don't need to wait any longer.

This fight will be the best knock to the Tapales,even hr is much bigger to the Inoue.Inoue was the most popular player with unique power towards the game.Inoue will have his dominance against the Tapales.Tapales had their luck in the game,because he win the unexpected game against the Akhmadaliev.Most of the crowd think,the Akhmadaliev will win the game because of his awesome game.But the luck favours the Tapales,if the luck not move towards the Tapales.The winner will be the Inoue based on their power.

Because Inoue had four time world champion till now.So he had his second plan against the opponent all the time.When the plan A is failure,subsequently he will execute the plan B for his opponents.This made him four time world champion and we don’t know how his game will be outside the Japan.So Inoue will have more pressure to prove himself in this game.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 25, 2023, 09:15:32 PM

Not belittling the Filipino here, but I think Tapales will have a slim chance against the monster Inoue. We have seen how he just eruption on American Fulton, the 2 belt champion as well and just didn't give him the breathing room and I don't think that Fulton win a round against Inoue and then the knockout power of Inoue will be too much for anyone.

So not sure what strategy the camp of Tapales will do against Inoue. Naoya is just reaching his prime right now and it's hard to stop a fighter like that who is very complete in my opinion.

I also agree, considering his performance against the former champion I think Tapales won by sheer luck on that since the fight between them (him and Akhmadaliev) can go either way and the crowd is not satisfied with the decision.

Just as I thought Fulton gave in on the mid to later rounds due to the bombs thrown by Inoue had happened. Fulton is simply outclassed in this fight so there is no doubt that 122 lbs is still a class weight for the monster Inoue. I am seeing another KO on this possible Unified Super Bantamweight title.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on July 26, 2023, 07:48:58 AM

Quote from: Sim_card on July 26, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

I thought there's no date yet. But in any case, this will be a very good opportunity for the Filipino boxer to get a lucrative fight.
He can even get a deal that can be a very good for his retirement, even if we say, he has slim chance with Inoue.
But so far, Inoue is not yet in the list of the "elite" fighters as based on this article -

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2365353-five-boxers-who-are-just-a-win-away-from-being-elite

The names of Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Alvarez are seemingly on the list.
Whereas, Lomancheko, Santa Cruz, Mikey Garcia, Wilder and Crawford were said to be a win away when the article was written in 2015.
So this year, 2023, I believe, Inoue will be on this list of elite boxers as he attained the 4-weight champion of the world.
If he will continue to win fight after fight, he will soon find his name along with boxing greats such as Pacquiao.

It's too early to consider Inoue as an elite boxer. While he may be a four-time world champion already, there are still questions about whether he can dominate outside his country. Most of his fights have taken place in Japan, so I believe he needs to come out and compete in front of bigger crowds and challenge the best in the next division he moves up to, assuming he wins this unification fight.

There's no doubt that Inoue will dominate in the super bantamweight division, but as he moves up in weight, there will be questions about whether he can still carry his speed and power and continue to prove himself.

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Quote from: Sim_card on July 26, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

I thought there's no date yet. But in any case, this will be a very good opportunity for the Filipino boxer to get a lucrative fight.
He can even get a deal that can be a very good for his retirement, even if we say, he has slim chance with Inoue.
But so far, Inoue is not yet in the list of the "elite" fighters as based on this article -

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2365353-five-boxers-who-are-just-a-win-away-from-being-elite

The names of Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto, Alvarez are seemingly on the list.
Whereas, Lomancheko, Santa Cruz, Mikey Garcia, Wilder and Crawford were said to be a win away when the article was written in 2015.
So this year, 2023, I believe, Inoue will be on this list of elite boxers as he attained the 4-weight champion of the world.
If he will continue to win fight after fight, he will soon find his name along with boxing greats such as Pacquiao.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 26, 2023, 12:27:49 AM

Seeing how easily Inoue destroyed Fulton does not give me any confidence in Tapales. Tapales' record is unimpressive. He's slower than Inoue and he doesn't have enough power to even make me think he has a puncher's chance. This should be a nice showcase for Inoue. It would be the ideal opportunity to fight in Las Vegas and gain more recognition outside of Japan.

I saw how technical Inoue was in his fight against Fulton last night and Tapales doesn't have that kind of moves and also his body is not that quick to move to dodge that power punches. so even if we wanted to see Tapales win this fight, it would be safe to not assume it and just accept that this is just another easy fight for Inoue. Unless he comes up with some effective strategy that will gonna surprise Inoue and somehow catch him off guard but as we can see, that's not easy because they are both in their prime and also can quickly adapt to the situation, especially Inoue who K.O Fulton easily last night.

We've seen Tapales fight, and he doesn't move a lot like Fulton, so I guess he would be an easy target for Inoue. However, I am not underestimating Tapales, but Inoue is currently hyped, and he is really good. So, we can't blame people for expecting that he'll win his next fight, considering how he dominated the super bantamweight division in his first attempt.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 26, 2023, 12:27:49 AM

Seeing how easily Inoue destroyed Fulton does not give me any confidence in Tapales. Tapales' record is unimpressive. He's slower than Inoue and he doesn't have enough power to even make me think he has a puncher's chance. This should be a nice showcase for Inoue. It would be the ideal opportunity to fight in Las Vegas and gain more recognition outside of Japan.

I saw how technical Inoue was in his fight against Fulton last night and Tapales doesn't have that kind of moves and also his body is not that quick to move to dodge that power punches. so even if we wanted to see Tapales win this fight, it would be safe to not assume it and just accept that this is just another easy fight for Inoue. Unless he comes up with some effective strategy that will gonna surprise Inoue and somehow catch him off guard but as we can see, that's not easy because they are both in their prime and also can quickly adapt to the situation, especially Inoue who K.O Fulton easily last night.

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This fight is already expected, so hats off to both fighters, especially to the IBF and WBA champion Marlon Tapales for having the guts to do the undisputed unification duel right away. I hope this fight happens in the US but considering Inoue's demand in Japan which is the world's 3rd biggest economy after the US and China, it is most likely that Inoue stays at home for a while.

Since last night I've been talking to some of my boxing friends and all of us are having difficulty imagining how Tapales overcomes Inoue. Inoue will be faster and carries the bigger punch. Tapales is not a KO artist and is not known as slick or faster than Fulton. Tapales had been down several times in his pro career which means he is really beatable. Still, I believe Tapales has underrated power punches. Tapales is actually 9 wins, 1 defeat (by TKO) with 8 KOs starting from his first world title fight at the bantamweight division. Tapales also has a big heart and experience being a 2 division world champion too. So Inoue cannot take him lightly, especially from Tapales' counters.

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Quote from: Sim_card on July 26, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

There's no question that this scenario is likely for the fight, but I admire the courage of Tapales for challenging Inoue. He is not afraid to taste the power of Inoue and has confidence in himself. Being Filipino, he will not talk trash to Inoue; instead, he will train hard and try to find a way to upset the heavy favorite, Inoue.

If Tapales will lose against Inoue maybe he will be declared as Filipino executioner since he defeat so many filipino champions on his career. But don't get surprise also on the courage of Tapales since this is big match for him and for sure he is so challenge to fight with Inoue in the ring so provably he will train more so he can increase his chance to win. If Tapales would be declared as a winner on this fight then this is really a big achievement of his career.

Well, whatever you call it, Inoue is just exceptional, and regardless of a boxer's race, he treats them fairly, as he has one goal in mind - to win by KO. Inoue will soon be at the top of the pound-for-pound rankings as long as he continues to climb and defeat champions, which I believe won't be hard for him to achieve.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 26, 2023, 06:40:11 AM

Quote from: Sim_card on July 26, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

There's no question that this scenario is likely for the fight, but I admire the courage of Tapales for challenging Inoue. He is not afraid to taste the power of Inoue and has confidence in himself. Being Filipino, he will not talk trash to Inoue; instead, he will train hard and try to find a way to upset the heavy favorite, Inoue.

If Tapales will lose against Inoue maybe he will be declared as Filipino executioner since he defeat so many filipino champions on his career. But don't get surprise also on the courage of Tapales since this is big match for him and for sure he is so challenge to fight with Inoue in the ring so provably he will train more so he can increase his chance to win. If Tapales would be declared as a winner on this fight then this is really a big achievement of his career.

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Quote from: Sim_card on July 26, 2023, 03:53:54 AM

I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

There's no question that this scenario is likely for the fight, but I admire the courage of Tapales for challenging Inoue. He is not afraid to taste the power of Inoue and has confidence in himself. Being Filipino, he will not talk trash to Inoue; instead, he will train hard and try to find a way to upset the heavy favorite, Inoue.

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I have full confidence in Inuoe that he will dismantle Tapales with his punches and that will make him win easily. He is a brave fighter. Tapales might be bigger but that is not what we consider,if you watch the victory of Inoue over Fulton yesterday,you will know that he will be the winner in November 20. Tapales sluggish moves isn't good enough to knock Inuoe out of his way to be the champion. I will bet on Inuoe because it is a sure win. The Filipino might still prove us wrong if he can withstand and win the fight.

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Another challenger from the Philippines and Tapales might have the chance here.
Inoue is still fresh from a big win and still have a big chance here of winning. Well, this can still be a good exposure for Tapales and let's see if this match will push through. Despite of being the underdog here, I still hope that Tapales can give a good fight, will have to prepare some funds and bet for him, that's our big pride.

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I'm always on the look for the next big fight to create a thread here, was thinking of creating one for the Tapales Inoue but it's good to know that bisdak40 created a thread for this, he is an avid boxing fan like me and I'm sure he will follow the update of the fight, both fighters wants to unite the title I hope there will be no injury to delay the fight just like that happened in the Fulton fight where there are a lot of delay.

If they fight my heart goes to Tapales but my bet will go to Inoue, he did not slow down and he carries his power in the Bantamweight division, there's no fighter in the Bantamweight that can beat him now after beating Fulton, Fulton was the best fighter in the Bantamweight before Inoue dominate him.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2023, 01:13:03 AM

@Kelvinid. Those are very accurate odds after the performance we have witnessed from Inoue against Fulton, I reckon. I have become convinced on the Japanese fighter. Inoue is like the young Pacman but with more knockout power in his hands.

I agree, he might not reach 8 division title as Pacman, but the way he is destroying everything that in his path, it's like Pacman when he was in the beginning of his career specially at lower weights. And Inoue can make another history, for Japan and then having won the unified title in bantamweight and super bantamweight in the 4 belt era.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 26, 2023, 01:13:03 AM

@bisdak40. The fight is speculated to occur on November. The venue might also be in Japan. However, Inoue's promoters should begin organizing his fights in Las Vegas if they want him to become a big name like Pacman.

Possible that it might be good to held in Japan so that Inoue will be more known in the US market. Just like what Arum did with Pacman, and with that, he might gain a lot of fans as well. Although he has taken notice already, like Mike Tyson or Tank Davis talking about it. Might be better if casual fans will know his name and support him in his US fights.

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@bisdak40 you're so quick bro, you're right in not creating a poll for this fight because there is no need to create one, because obviously, we know who is going to dominate the fight, after the recent domination of Inoue of Fulton I strongly believe that Inoue is the strongest fighter in the Bantamweight and he will eventually unite all the titles he will wrap up the division by being its undisputed champion, then move on to the next division which is the featherweight division and
continue his legacy there.

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Quote from: Dave1 on July 25, 2023, 09:15:32 PM

Not belittling the Filipino here, but I think Tapales will have a slim chance against the monster Inoue. We have seen how he just eruption on American Fulton, the 2 belt champion as well and just didn't give him the breathing room and I don't think that Fulton win a round against Inoue and then the knockout power of Inoue will be too much for anyone.

So not sure what strategy the camp of Tapales will do against Inoue. Naoya is just reaching his prime right now and it's hard to stop a fighter like that who is very complete in my opinion.

Everything could change by proper training and studying the movement of his opponent. If he can master that for sure he has a chance to defeat Inoue.

He also need to make his emotion and not let Inoue dominate him in that category since if he let Inoue came into his head maybe it can destroy his focus then will give Inoue a huge advantage to win their fight. Although its early to tell but still this is another exciting fight to come.

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@Kelvinid. Those are very accurate odds after the performance we have witnessed from Inoue against Fulton, I reckon. I have become convinced on the Japanese fighter. Inoue is like the young Pacman but with more knockout power in his hands.

@bisdak40. The fight is speculated to occur on November. The venue might also be in Japan. However, Inoue's promoters should begin organizing his fights in Las Vegas if they want him to become a big name like Pacman.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on July 26, 2023, 12:27:49 AM

Seeing how easily Inoue destroyed Fulton does not give me any confidence in Tapales. Tapales' record is unimpressive. He's slower than Inoue and he doesn't have enough power to even make me think he has a puncher's chance. This should be a nice showcase for Inoue. It would be the ideal opportunity to fight in Las Vegas and gain more recognition outside of Japan.

The chance of Tapales winning the fight is very slim. If he can survive the power punches of Inoue, he can't compete with Inoue's speed. But we should appreciate what Tapales did. Despite knowing how powerful Inoue is, he is still willing to unify belts with him. In fact, he was in the venue to challenge Inoue after the fight.

I'm not sure about the accuracy of these odds below, but Inoue is a super heavy favorite.

Inoue: (-1000)
Tapales: (+600)

https://box.live/boxing-betting/inoue-vs-tapales-odds/

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