[Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - December 26 - page 6.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 25, 2023, 04:53:52 AM

I did not expect Tapales to weigh lower than Inoue but I guess he will rehydrate more than the Japanese. Both are in excellent condition so we have a fight. My head says Tapales won't finish the full 12 rounds but I am feeling confident that he is preparing for something new and awkward that will make Inoue think about being too aggressive. And Tapales hits harder than Fulton, maybe he can do damage on Inoue if he gets his timing right.

This is a great fight. Both fighters showed respect to each other. May the best man win.

Looks like both of them are ready and Yes! Tapales knows his role in this fight and he is also putting everything on the line he has to make it more entertaining and a memorable fight for the fans. He also said that he will gonna make history for the Philippines so he is really exerting all efforts to win the fight and won't going to give the fight easily for Inoue. Even though he won't gonna have any chance to beat Inoue, by saying those words, he makes his countrymen want to cheer for him to actually win it tomorrow.

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I won't be betting in this fight. If I have to make a bet, it should go to Inoue, but it is almost not worth betting for him. With the moneyline odds of 1.04, who would grab that? Even if you go for the winning method to take advantage of higher odds, the probability is that you would go for Inoue by KO. And that's only 1.17. Even that is not worthy for me. I'd rather just watch the fight.

What I'm hoping for is that Tapales is 100% ready and that he won't be psychologically or emotionally affected by his opponent. If Tapales has 100% confidence in this fight, he will definitely be able to give a good fight. Even if he losses, at least he gives Naoya a run for his money.

There's another option if you don't want the ML odds for Inoue and you are confident that this will end in a knockout, see below. But as for me, i have a feeling that this would go the distance because Tapales is 100 percent ready for this fight and he trained for this for almost six months. So with that i'm betting that this fight would go over 7.5 @2.20.

With the hardship that he takes during that 6 months training I would say that your pick might be a good option for each pinoy fans who
believes that Tapales is ready for Inoue's attacks.

Over 6.5 is also sweet if you are not that greed as chances that Inoue will start his usual strategy during that period, though I hope Tapales will
not try to be aggressive and will engage to those exchanges of series of punches.

It can preserve his energy to last long and maybe trying to throw good numbers of converted punches may give him chances to upset Inoue.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 25, 2023, 04:53:52 AM

I did not expect Tapales to weigh lower than Inoue but I guess he will rehydrate more than the Japanese. Both are in excellent condition so we have a fight. My head says Tapales won't finish the full 12 rounds but I am feeling confident that he is preparing for something new and awkward that will make Inoue think about being too aggressive. And Tapales hits harder than Fulton, maybe he can do damage on Inoue if he gets his timing right.

True, Fulton only had 8 KO in his 21 fights that he won, compared to Tapales who have many fights and KO's , so his experience is really something that could potentiallly give Inoue a problem. Tomorrow, we will see a sure firepower of both boxers that are willing to own all the belts, so for me, all the best for Tapales but I'm not betting a lot on him because he's a heavy underdog, I'm okay with small bet so I won't regret in case he'll fail.

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This is a great fight. Both fighters showed respect to each other. May the best man win.

Asian boxers are very respectful, so it's not a surprise. maybe if it's Casimero who's in the face off, that could be different.

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I did not expect Tapales to weigh lower than Inoue but I guess he will rehydrate more than the Japanese. Both are in excellent condition so we have a fight. My head says Tapales won't finish the full 12 rounds but I am feeling confident that he is preparing for something new and awkward that will make Inoue think about being too aggressive. And Tapales hits harder than Fulton, maybe he can do damage on Inoue if he gets his timing right.

This is a great fight. Both fighters showed respect to each other. May the best man win.

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@bisdak40. I very much agree. This fight is not something similar to Canelo vs. Bivol where fans can speculate an argument for Bivol to get the victory. On Inoue vs. Tapales, there might certainly be no argument. However, are we underestimating Tapales?

In any case, Naoya Inoue has won by knockout against lefthanded opponents before the fight reached round 5. This might occur again which might make under 6.5 rounds a good bet. There is also round range 4-6 victory for Inoue.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 25, 2023, 12:35:38 AM

Inoue is made the favorite with an odd of 1.05 while Tapales has an odd of 8.60.
This will be very profitable if Tapales manages to beat Inoue.

Profitable indeed but this is one tough hill to climb for Tapales. To be safe (though also risky), my bet is that this fight will go over 8 rounds, that way, whoever won by decision, my bet would also win. It is @5.60 for Inoue to win by decision but as a sign of respect to my compatriot, I would not take that option.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 25, 2023, 12:01:10 AM

We have a fight guys, both boxers have made the scales with no problems or whatsoever.

Inoue - 121.6 lbs
Tapales - 121.2 lbs

No official videos yet from Top Rank but once they released that one, we will post it here.

One thing i have observed though, Inoue was uncomfortable on facing Tapales in their last presser, might be his personality or strategy to nake Tapales believe that Inoue is somewhat have fear in him hehe.

This historic fight will take place tomorrow and we will see who is the real undisputed champion, will Inoue add to the title record he has earned or will Tapales take the title and make Inoue lose big name at the peak of his career as an undefeated boxer.
After the weigh-in is done and there are no problems whatsoever in terms of losing or gaining weight significantly, I think they will rest with full ambition to be able to beat each other in tomorrow fight.

From the last interview, Inoue stated that he would be careful facing Tapales and he didn't want to make mistake that would benefit Tapales because Tapales was not a fighter he could underestimate.
This statement might be assumed to be what you said, but this time it was really exciting fight for Inoue so one of his worries was that he didn't want to be beaten by Tapales.

Inoue is made the favorite with an odd of 1.05 while Tapales has an odd of 8.60.
This will be very profitable if Tapales manages to beat Inoue.

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We have a fight guys, both boxers have made the scales with no problems or whatsoever.

Inoue - 121.6 lbs
Tapales - 121.2 lbs

No official videos yet from Top Rank but once they released that one, we will post it here.

One thing i have observed though, Inoue was uncomfortable on facing Tapales in their last presser, might be his personality or strategy to nake Tapales believe that Inoue is somewhat have fear in him hehe.

edit: here's the video of the weigh-in.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/772431641384349
https://www.facebook.com/reel/326796630257020

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 23, 2023, 09:38:46 AM

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Against Butler, round 10 KO, and against Fulton, it's round 8 KO.

That would have ended up a boring fight if Inoue were not able to KO these two fighters. This only goes to show that even if they are champions on their own but they aren't on the level of Inoue yet.

Let's try to answer this question, is Tapales is in the level of Butler and Fulton, if the answer is yes, then Inoue would still likely end up winning an easy fight. The answer should be Tapales being above the level of the last two fighterst hat Inoue defeated.

Based on paper, Tapales is just on the level of Fulton I guess, maybe not on Butler because Butler only get the belts because Casimero was disqualified on the fight due to violation he committed. So if he's on the level of Fulton, would you assume that he'll lose? Well, maybe you are right, there's a high chance but let's just find out during the actual fight as upset could happen anytime, just like what happen to Parker vs Wilder fight, it was Wilder who is the heavy favorite but loss.

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So with your statement that Tapales has to be aggressive, it's either the fight will end early on Inoue's favor or his, that's how I see it.

It doesn't matter if it will end in few rounds as long as the quality of the fight is very entertaining. Besides, that's what we came for, we cheer on the fighter we re leaning but we always expect a fight that would satisfy us, especially for those who pay for the price of subscription or venue tickets.

Of course, it's the quality of the fight that is more important. If fact, most of the fights of Inoue ended up early and yet he is still named as one of the most exciting boxers in the world, the most in Japan.

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Those who are hoping for an upset here and has actually placed a bet for it will definitely enjoy the very high odds for Tapales. That's 8.60. If it is to be translated to the probability of Tapales winning this match, that would only be around 10% chance of winning.

That's 11.6% using https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html.

A very slim chance of winning, that's why it deserved a high payout, but honestly, even at the odds, if I'll bet on Tapales I wouldn't be too confident with my bet as I know how strong Inoue is. He can end this fight early if he will be more aggressive than usual, but knowing him, he has matured a lot and knows how to attack based on the right timing.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 22, 2023, 10:20:37 PM

Honestly, I can't see how Tapales can upset Inoue. In terms of points Inoue is clearly more agile than Tapales so he could earn points easily. In terms of power Inoue is also more dangerous than Tapales. Tapales could even be knocked out in this fight.

If we don't believe him but we need to support him, it's advisable not to bet on the fight and just watch the game. At least, if he loss, we don't need to spend our money although we can spend a bit of emotion. Grin

I won't be betting in this fight. If I have to make a bet, it should go to Inoue, but it is almost not worth betting for him. With the moneyline odds of 1.04, who would grab that? Even if you go for the winning method to take advantage of higher odds, the probability is that you would go for Inoue by KO. And that's only 1.17. Even that is not worthy for me. I'd rather just watch the fight.

Still okay though. When you're in doubt, don't force yourself so you won't regret if the outcome aren't aline with your expectation. Just enjoy the fight, maybe grab some beer as this one sure not gonna be a boring one, for boxing that are boring, you grab coffee, this one it should be beer. Grin

Not worthy for you but maybe others sees it as an opportunity, especially that 1.17, I think that's good enough though.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 23, 2023, 08:38:09 PM

What I'm hoping for is that Tapales is 100% ready and that he won't be psychologically or emotionally affected by his opponent. If Tapales has 100% confidence in this fight, he will definitely be able to give a good fight. Even if he losses, at least he gives Naoya a run for his money.

That way Tapales has been showing up, he seemed to be confident but it's still different in the actual fight, so hopefully he will carry that confidence.

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I won't be betting in this fight. If I have to make a bet, it should go to Inoue, but it is almost not worth betting for him. With the moneyline odds of 1.04, who would grab that? Even if you go for the winning method to take advantage of higher odds, the probability is that you would go for Inoue by KO. And that's only 1.17. Even that is not worthy for me. I'd rather just watch the fight.

What I'm hoping for is that Tapales is 100% ready and that he won't be psychologically or emotionally affected by his opponent. If Tapales has 100% confidence in this fight, he will definitely be able to give a good fight. Even if he losses, at least he gives Naoya a run for his money.

There's another option if you don't want the ML odds for Inoue and you are confident that this will end in a knockout, see below. But as for me, i have a feeling that this would go the distance because Tapales is 100 percent ready for this fight and he trained for this for almost six months. So with that i'm betting that this fight would go over 7.5 @2.20.

Was the odds boasted? Because on the screenshot it was only 2.09 while you got 2.20.

Anyway, I think you also have a point, it's just important that we follow the result of our analysis, we can't be too bias here because if we are, we will just be closing our eyes and bet in favor of Tapales in all the market that is available.

Can't wait for this fight, I hope Tapales will now be relax and will not over train as we want to see him 100% ready in the fight knowing he's up agains the biggest challenge of his life, and if he lose, I hope he'll not suffer a devasted loss that will result to major injury, that's what I pray for him also.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 23, 2023, 08:38:09 PM

I won't be betting in this fight. If I have to make a bet, it should go to Inoue, but it is almost not worth betting for him. With the moneyline odds of 1.04, who would grab that? Even if you go for the winning method to take advantage of higher odds, the probability is that you would go for Inoue by KO. And that's only 1.17. Even that is not worthy for me. I'd rather just watch the fight.

What I'm hoping for is that Tapales is 100% ready and that he won't be psychologically or emotionally affected by his opponent. If Tapales has 100% confidence in this fight, he will definitely be able to give a good fight. Even if he losses, at least he gives Naoya a run for his money.

There's another option if you don't want the ML odds for Inoue and you are confident that this will end in a knockout, see below. But as for me, i have a feeling that this would go the distance because Tapales is 100 percent ready for this fight and he trained for this for almost six months. So with that i'm betting that this fight would go over 7.5 @2.20.

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It doesn't matter if it will end in few rounds as long as the quality of the fight is very entertaining. Besides, that's what we came for, we cheer on the fighter we re leaning but we always expect a fight that would satisfy us, especially for those who pay for the price of subscription or venue tickets.

It's Inoue's fight so it's going to be entertaining, Inoue doesn't have a single boring fight, it always ends up with his opponents getting knocked out, I have seen both fighters' highlights, workouts, and training but however I looked at it Inoue still has an edge, I don't rule out an upset but Inoue is always hungry and he shows consistency on his performance I hope Tapales can surpass Donaire's performance in their first meeting where Donaire just loss by a decision.
If Tapales happens to upset Inoue, this will be a huge upset and one for the record.
But Inoue is just too good in his training and sparring he deserves his name the Monster because even in his training he is a monster.

Tapales' last fight with Akhmadaliev is not convincing he was nearly knockdown but the points he made saved him from the loss. He is very open to Inoue's counter which is far heavier than Tapales' left so it's not so impossible that this fight will end quickly probably in less than 5 rounds. Not to mention Inoue is likely to cheat weight against him, just a few days he is still 127lbs.

And by the way, Inoue announced he will stay to defend the title twice.

And also Inoue said this.

“My goal was never just to move up in weight. It was always to create history,” Inoue told BoxingScene.com.
https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-my-goal-never-just-move-up-weight-it-always-create-history--180190

So he isnt really that just focusing on climbing up on weight division alone but also he is really that making it every fight to be that making some history

In regarding into your sentiment on which i do agree with that is that if we do see on Tapales recent fight then it is really just that sloppy and something
that cant be able to beat up Inoue. 5 rounds TKO? Possible but lets see if Tapales had made out some adjustments on at least making things way more better
than before but in terms of raw power then hands down to Inoue.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 23, 2023, 03:38:02 AM

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Those who are hoping for an upset here and has actually placed a bet for it will definitely enjoy the very high odds for Tapales. That's 8.60. If it is to be translated to the probability of Tapales winning this match, that would only be around 10% chance of winning.

That's 11.6% using https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html.

A very slim chance of winning, that's why it deserved a high payout, but honestly, even at the odds, if I'll bet on Tapales I wouldn't be too confident with my bet as I know how strong Inoue is. He can end this fight early if he will be more aggressive than usual, but knowing him, he has matured a lot and knows how to attack based on the right timing.

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Honestly, I can't see how Tapales can upset Inoue. In terms of points Inoue is clearly more agile than Tapales so he could earn points easily. In terms of power Inoue is also more dangerous than Tapales. Tapales could even be knocked out in this fight.

If we don't believe him but we need to support him, it's advisable not to bet on the fight and just watch the game. At least, if he loss, we don't need to spend our money although we can spend a bit of emotion. Grin

I won't be betting in this fight. If I have to make a bet, it should go to Inoue, but it is almost not worth betting for him. With the moneyline odds of 1.04, who would grab that? Even if you go for the winning method to take advantage of higher odds, the probability is that you would go for Inoue by KO. And that's only 1.17. Even that is not worthy for me. I'd rather just watch the fight.

What I'm hoping for is that Tapales is 100% ready and that he won't be psychologically or emotionally affected by his opponent. If Tapales has 100% confidence in this fight, he will definitely be able to give a good fight. Even if he losses, at least he gives Naoya a run for his money.

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It doesn't matter if it will end in few rounds as long as the quality of the fight is very entertaining. Besides, that's what we came for, we cheer on the fighter we re leaning but we always expect a fight that would satisfy us, especially for those who pay for the price of subscription or venue tickets.

It's Inoue's fight so it's going to be entertaining, Inoue doesn't have a single boring fight, it always ends up with his opponents getting knocked out, I have seen both fighters' highlights, workouts, and training but however I looked at it Inoue still has an edge, I don't rule out an upset but Inoue is always hungry and he shows consistency on his performance I hope Tapales can surpass Donaire's performance in their first meeting where Donaire just loss by a decision.
If Tapales happens to upset Inoue, this will be a huge upset and one for the record.
But Inoue is just too good in his training and sparring he deserves his name the Monster because even in his training he is a monster.

Tapales' last fight with Akhmadaliev is not convincing he was nearly knockdown but the points he made saved him from the loss. He is very open to Inoue's counter which is far heavier than Tapales' left so it's not so impossible that this fight will end quickly probably in less than 5 rounds. Not to mention Inoue is likely to cheat weight against him, just a few days he is still 127lbs.

And by the way, Inoue announced he will stay to defend the title twice.

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Filipinos can now watch on free television Marlon Tapales’ historic title fight with Japanese “Monster” Naoya Inoue at the Ariake Arena in Tokyo on December 26.
This developed as boxing legend Manny Pacquiao’s MP Promotions joined forces with Cignal TV and Arena Plus to air the Tapales-Inoue super bantamweight unification collision.

Pacquiao gifts Filipinos with historic Tapales-Inoue title fight on free TV

Inoue is a heavy favorite to win the fight

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tagged a -2000 favorite by oddsmakers

so if you're a risk taker you can take a chance on Tapales, my heart and prayer goes to Tapales but my pocket says Inoue is the best bet.

Can Tapales do a Pacquiao when he first fought in Las Vegas against Ledwaba?

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 23, 2023, 09:38:46 AM

It doesn't matter if it will end in few rounds as long as the quality of the fight is very entertaining. Besides, that's what we came for, we cheer on the fighter we re leaning but we always expect a fight that would satisfy us, especially for those who pay for the price of subscription or venue tickets.

It's Inoue's fight so it's going to be entertaining, Inoue doesn't have a single boring fight, it always ends up with his opponents getting knocked out, I have seen both fighters' highlights, workouts, and training but however I looked at it Inoue still has an edge, I don't rule out an upset but Inoue is always hungry and he shows consistency on his performance I hope Tapales can surpass Donaire's performance in their first meeting where Donaire just loss by a decision.
If Tapales happens to upset Inoue, this will be a huge upset and one for the record.
But Inoue is just too good in his training and sparring he deserves his name the Monster because even in his training he is a monster.

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Lets see on how long that Tapales would be able to handle those solid body shots from Inoue. For sure he do make out some preparation on how he would really be avoiding that.
We do know that INoue is really have that power and speed on which it is really just that right that they should really be that careful into this one.

He can't handle it if he would allow himself to get hit by Inoue's solid shots. Tapales needs to assert his power to Inoue as well so Inoue will not just bully him in the fight. If Tapales will hit Inoue and Inoue felt the power of Tapales, that might make Inout not too aggressive and he'll just play the chess game.

With that, I believe Tapales would last in 12 rounds and there's a possibility that he can win the fight.

Giving Inoue high confidence early will only make the life of Tapales miserable in the duration of the fight, so he has to be careful, his movement should be well calculated.

If i were in the corner of Tapales on fight night, i would advise him not to respect too much Inoue's power as that would game Inoue the much needed confidence on the fight. I know that those body shots are lethal but he should also avoid those and counter whenever he can. Easily said than done but this is the only way Tapales would win the fight, be aggressive and not just be on the ring to survive.

Running around or planning to buy some time to evade up that actual in-fight would really just let things getting in favor with Inoue and this is something that they should really be that careful with because if not then they would really be putting themselves on such trouble and it is really just that right that they should really be giving Inoue a hard time in speaking about infights just like on what happened into Donaire.
That kind of style would really be would really be that an effective one if Donaire wasnt short with that stamina and that would really be that a good example for Tapales on at least having the idea on how
he would really be getting that giving a good fight by not running just like into those previous fighters that Inoue on which they are really that too evasive.

Most specially if it will end up to the judges scorecards, don't expect anymore that Tapales would still be favored by the judges. I'm sure Tapales camp knows about that possibility, and they don't want to reach this fight to 12 rounds, they will create a strategy to beat Inoue vi KO/TKO. As to what strategy is that, we will find out during the actual fight and at the same time we will also find out if that will work. Maybe have tried to defeat Inoue but nobody succeeded, so it will surprise the world if Tapales will come up on top and win via KO.

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Lets see on how long that Tapales would be able to handle those solid body shots from Inoue. For sure he do make out some preparation on how he would really be avoiding that.
We do know that INoue is really have that power and speed on which it is really just that right that they should really be that careful into this one.

He can't handle it if he would allow himself to get hit by Inoue's solid shots. Tapales needs to assert his power to Inoue as well so Inoue will not just bully him in the fight. If Tapales will hit Inoue and Inoue felt the power of Tapales, that might make Inout not too aggressive and he'll just play the chess game.

With that, I believe Tapales would last in 12 rounds and there's a possibility that he can win the fight.

Giving Inoue high confidence early will only make the life of Tapales miserable in the duration of the fight, so he has to be careful, his movement should be well calculated.

If i were in the corner of Tapales on fight night, i would advise him not to respect too much Inoue's power as that would game Inoue the much needed confidence on the fight. I know that those body shots are lethal but he should also avoid those and counter whenever he can. Easily said than done but this is the only way Tapales would win the fight, be aggressive and not just be on the ring to survive.

Running around or planning to buy some time to evade up that actual in-fight would really just let things getting in favor with Inoue and this is something that they should really be that careful with because if not then they would really be putting themselves on such trouble and it is really just that right that they should really be giving Inoue a hard time in speaking about infights just like on what happened into Donaire.
That kind of style would really be would really be that an effective one if Donaire wasnt short with that stamina and that would really be that a good example for Tapales on at least having the idea on how
he would really be getting that giving a good fight by not running just like into those previous fighters that Inoue on which they are really that too evasive.

There might be flaws but this is something that would really be covered up though. It is really just that impossible that they hadnt made any adjustments on which it would really be that normal that they would really be having that patching up their flaws as a fighter.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 23, 2023, 09:24:52 AM

Against Butler, round 10 KO, and against Fulton, it's round 8 KO.

That would have ended up a boring fight if Inoue were not able to KO these two fighters. This only goes to show that even if they are champions on their own but they aren't on the level of Inoue yet.

Let's try to answer this question, is Tapales is in the level of Butler and Fulton, if the answer is yes, then Inoue would still likely end up winning an easy fight. The answer should be Tapales being above the level of the last two fighterst hat Inoue defeated.

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So with your statement that Tapales has to be aggressive, it's either the fight will end early on Inoue's favor or his, that's how I see it.

It doesn't matter if it will end in few rounds as long as the quality of the fight is very entertaining. Besides, that's what we came for, we cheer on the fighter we re leaning but we always expect a fight that would satisfy us, especially for those who pay for the price of subscription or venue tickets.

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