[Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 - page 11.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 25, 2023, 04:50:22 PM

So far by the results, it looks like Jerwin Ancajas is the crowd favorite here.

There are still no listing in our favorite sports bookies though, it might take some time, but I'm seeing that this is going to be very close odds as Inoue as a champion might have be the slight favorite here.

Nevertheless, we love to see that, specially backers for Jerwin as he will be a live underdog and we all know that it could be a juicy odds and a good beat for us.

Yes, I surely hope that Jerwin Ancajas will be listed as the underdog and not the defending champion, Takuma Inoue, so that we can fully take advantage of it. And as far as the betting odds are concerned, it's still so early so that might be the reason and since this bout is not that big compared to others, we might see the bookies open the lines in like 3-4 weeks before the actual day of their fight.

I consider it though as big as this is a belt on the line and it also involves another Inoue. But you might be right that sport bookies will list the fight in weeks, before the actual fight and so we can decide which one we will be supporting in this fight.

And obviously, as Jerwin here has a lot of fans despite his two losses and losing the belt. This could be what we call a redemption time for him. And bring back the name for himself when he beat the brother of Naoya. And since there are a lot of champions here, who know, maybe he could have like 2 belts around his waist next year if he wins here.

I am also rooting for Jerwin Ancajas on this fight, I hope Ancajas will prepare well on this title fight and be able to bag the title. I also hope that Ancajas work on his stamina so that he won't fell short of breath at the latter round which is very noticeable during his fight against Martinez.

This upcoming fight is the redeeming moment for Ancajas if he failed to win on this fight, I think he needs to reflect on his trainings, strategic planning and more probably change his camp members.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 26, 2023, 10:25:33 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on August 25, 2023, 04:50:22 PM

So far by the results, it looks like Jerwin Ancajas is the crowd favorite here.

There are still no listing in our favorite sports bookies though, it might take some time, but I'm seeing that this is going to be very close odds as Inoue as a champion might have be the slight favorite here.

Nevertheless, we love to see that, specially backers for Jerwin as he will be a live underdog and we all know that it could be a juicy odds and a good beat for us.

Yes, I surely hope that Jerwin Ancajas will be listed as the underdog and not the defending champion, Takuma Inoue, so that we can fully take advantage of it. And as far as the betting odds are concerned, it's still so early so that might be the reason and since this bout is not that big compared to others, we might see the bookies open the lines in like 3-4 weeks before the actual day of their fight.

I consider it though as big as this is a belt on the line and it also involves another Inoue. But you might be right that sport bookies will list the fight in weeks, before the actual fight and so we can decide which one we will be supporting in this fight.

And obviously, as Jerwin here has a lot of fans despite his two losses and losing the belt. This could be what we call a redemption time for him. And bring back the name for himself when he beat the brother of Naoya. And since there are a lot of champions here, who know, maybe he could have like 2 belts around his waist next year if he wins here.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 25, 2023, 04:50:22 PM

So far by the results, it looks like Jerwin Ancajas is the crowd favorite here.

There are still no listing in our favorite sports bookies though, it might take some time, but I'm seeing that this is going to be very close odds as Inoue as a champion might have be the slight favorite here.

Nevertheless, we love to see that, specially backers for Jerwin as he will be a live underdog and we all know that it could be a juicy odds and a good beat for us.

Yes, I surely hope that Jerwin Ancajas will be listed as the underdog and not the defending champion, Takuma Inoue, so that we can fully take advantage of it. And as far as the betting odds are concerned, it's still so early so that might be the reason and since this bout is not that big compared to others, we might see the bookies open the lines in like 3-4 weeks before the actual day of their fight.

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On the contrary mate, Jerwin doesn't have the belt here, he has move up in weight to 118 lbs after losing back to back to Martinez (to whom he lost his belt). But he comes back in a tune up fight and won by ko/tko.

Yes, it was the younger brother of Naoya Inoue and others are comparing them. However, I do not think that Takuma possesses the same power as his brother that's why maybe Ancajas has a chance to get back that belt and become a world champion once more.

It was a good decision for Ancajas to move up, I saw how he struggled against Martinez because of the weight cut, the fatigue and lack of power caused him to lose twice against the same boxer, here in 118 lbs he is more comfortable, he is more powerful he's been complaining that he stays to long in that weight because he is the title holder back then, I hope he wins another title to carry the Philippines torch in boxing.

I guess he needed that loss so that he can move-on from that weight class because his weight isn't suitable anymore that is why he had a hard time in his 2nd bout against Martinez which as we know led to another loss. Now that there are no thorns anymore, I believe he can now make a difference at bantamweight where boxers right now aren't that good compared to Ancajas who is quite experienced enough.

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Quote from: aioc on August 25, 2023, 12:40:55 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on August 25, 2023, 08:34:47 AM

On the contrary mate, Jerwin doesn't have the belt here, he has move up in weight to 118 lbs after losing back to back to Martinez (to whom he lost his belt). But he comes back in a tune up fight and won by ko/tko.

Yes, it was the younger brother of Naoya Inoue and others are comparing them. However, I do not think that Takuma possesses the same power as his brother that's why maybe Ancajas has a chance to get back that belt and become a world champion once more.

It was a good decision for Ancajas to move up, I saw how he struggled against Martinez because of the weight cut, the fatigue and lack of power caused him to lose twice against the same boxer, here in 118 lbs he is more comfortable, he is more powerful he's been complaining that he stays to long in that weight because he is the title holder back then, I hope he wins another title to carry the Philippines torch in boxing.

Yes, same observation mate, I mean he had a good run at the Jr bantamweight, perhaps he just doesn't want to go up in weight since there are good Filipinos campaigning on that weight class and probably friends or in a same stable as himself.

But sooner or later he will have to go up at 118 lbs and he actually did and won impressively in his first fight. So it's good to see that he will be matching against another Inoue here and can still proved that he belongs to the elite as once he was a champion at 115 lbs and defended it 9x without straight and some of them are via ko.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 25, 2023, 07:59:24 PM

i thought i was looking at older inoue here. lol but in any case, this fight should be easy for ancajas if he will use all his previous experiences. sometimes it is the preparation that will greatly contribute to the outcome of the results. the younger inoue may have short list of fights but ancajas should be ready for what's to come here.

Should be an easy win for Jerwin Ancajas? How come? We are talking about a champion here.

We should not underestimate the current WBA Bantamweight Champion. Just for a fact, Jerwin Ancajas was not even on the top 5 rankings in the WBA Bantamweight prior to Takuma Inoue getting the championship belt here which is around on Rank 2 or 3 if I'm not mistaken.

Prior to also getting the vacant WBA Bantamweight title, Takuma Inoue impressed the crowd with his pure domination in his recent fights. It means he shouldn't be handled that lightly even facing the much fierce Jerwin Ancajas. I will go with Jerwin here as my fellow "kababayan" but not expecting an easy fight for him. I'd rather see him as an underdog compared to being a Favorite.

When Ancajas was still undefeated, I might have agreed with those who thought it would be an easy fight for him. However, with two losses under his belt now, he seems to be striving for redemption as a challenger in this upcoming fight. While Takuma might not be on the same level as his brother, he deserves respect for his achievements as a champion.

Here are the odds for the fight, with Inoue being the favorite.

https://champinon.info/schedule/inoue-vs-ancajas/

Inoue to win 1/2
Ancajas to win 2/1

Maybe some bettors would not understand that fraction odds, so let me convert that into american odds and decimal odds.

Using this https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

Inoue 1.5 or -200
Ancajas 3 or +200

If these odds are indeed available in the actual sportsbook, I would consider them very appealing. Personally, I would place a bet on Ancajas to win, so I'd be quite pleased with that +200 if he manages to defeat the current champion.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 25, 2023, 08:25:00 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 25, 2023, 07:59:24 PM

i thought i was looking at older inoue here. lol but in any case, this fight should be easy for ancajas if he will use all his previous experiences. sometimes it is the preparation that will greatly contribute to the outcome of the results. the younger inoue may have short list of fights but ancajas should be ready for what's to come here.

Should be an easy win for Jerwin Ancajas? How come? We are talking about a champion here.

We should not underestimate the current WBA Bantamweight Champion. Just for a fact, Jerwin Ancajas was not even on the top 5 rankings in the WBA Bantamweight prior to Takuma Inoue getting the championship belt here which is around on Rank 2 or 3 if I'm not mistaken.

Prior to also getting the vacant WBA Bantamweight title, Takuma Inoue impressed the crowd with his pure domination in his recent fights. It means he shouldn't be handled that lightly even facing the much fierce Jerwin Ancajas. I will go with Jerwin here as my fellow "kababayan" but not expecting an easy fight for him. I'd rather see him as an underdog compared to being a Favorite.

When Ancajas was still undefeated, I might have agreed with those who thought it would be an easy fight for him. However, with two losses under his belt now, he seems to be striving for redemption as a challenger in this upcoming fight. While Takuma might not be on the same level as his brother, he deserves respect for his achievements as a champion.

Here are the odds for the fight, with Inoue being the favorite.

https://champinon.info/schedule/inoue-vs-ancajas/

Inoue to win 1/2
Ancajas to win 2/1

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on August 25, 2023, 07:59:24 PM

i thought i was looking at older inoue here. lol but in any case, this fight should be easy for ancajas if he will use all his previous experiences. sometimes it is the preparation that will greatly contribute to the outcome of the results. the younger inoue may have short list of fights but ancajas should be ready for what's to come here.

Should be an easy win for Jerwin Ancajas? How come? We are talking about a champion here.

We should not underestimate the current WBA Bantamweight Champion. Just for a fact, Jerwin Ancajas was not even on the top 5 rankings in the WBA Bantamweight prior to Takuma Inoue getting the championship belt here which is around on Rank 2 or 3 if I'm not mistaken.

Prior to also getting the vacant WBA Bantamweight title, Takuma Inoue impressed the crowd with his pure domination in his recent fights. It means he shouldn't be handled that lightly even facing the much fierce Jerwin Ancajas. I will go with Jerwin here as my fellow "kababayan" but not expecting an easy fight for him. I'd rather see him as an underdog compared to being a Favorite.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 25, 2023, 07:57:41 PM

This is a good time for redemption for Jerwin Ancajas. I'm sure he's already reflected these past few months on his losses and he's ready to take on a new opponent. I'm not discounting the capability of Takuma Inoue, though, as he's still a very capable fighter and for sure, is trained by his older brother. They can drag this fight to decision, but I'm banking on Jerwin to have the greater stamina and decision making given his tenure in professional boxing and his experience in his past defeats.

i thought i was looking at older inoue here. lol but in any case, this fight should be easy for ancajas if he will use all his previous experiences. sometimes it is the preparation that will greatly contribute to the outcome of the results. the younger inoue may have short list of fights but ancajas should be ready for what's to come here.

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This is a good time for redemption for Jerwin Ancajas. I'm sure he's already reflected these past few months on his losses and he's ready to take on a new opponent. I'm not discounting the capability of Takuma Inoue, though, as he's still a very capable fighter and for sure, is trained by his older brother. They can drag this fight to decision, but I'm banking on Jerwin to have the greater stamina and decision making given his tenure in professional boxing and his experience in his past defeats.

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It might be that Jerwin Ancajas does have a better portfolio and stats-wise much better to Takuma Inoue but the latter being the champion now and a title-holder, that impression might be changed as being a title holder is no doubt, giving more fuel to a boxer, especially in a title defense.

Much especially fighting a title defense in front of a supportive home crowd.

Ancajas, being more known as an aggressive fighter, I just hope that style will able to pulverize the younger Inoue as even I'm with him on this fight, there is no question that Takuma also improved since then. While fighting against a home crowd, I hope Ancajas will be more inspired to win and get back to the champion's discussion table.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 25, 2023, 05:53:50 PM

The younger Takuma Inoue looks like lacking in firepower. I look at his records and he got only 4 knock out among 18 wins and 1 loss via decision. This is a good fight for Jerwin Ancajas, IMO. Since he is not facing a knock out artist and at the same time given a chance for a title. I hope that Ancajas have a better performance on this one and win the title to redeem himself from the previous fight's poor performance because his win against Wilner Soto is not enough to redeem his back to back lost against Fernando Martinez.

Ancajas has the advantage on this match, just the record and experience alone.
But being the brother of Inoue, Takuma may not be an easy opponent here.
So Ancajas should not take this fight lightly and prepare this fight seriously.
However, when it comes to odds, Ancajas will be favored by bookies here just like what people are predicting as well.
At first look at the photos, I thought I was looking at older Inoue here. Grin

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The younger Takuma Inoue looks like lacking in firepower. I look at his records and he got only 4 knock out among 18 wins and 1 loss via decision. This is a good fight for Jerwin Ancajas, IMO. Since he is not facing a knock out artist and at the same time given a chance for a title. I hope that Ancajas have a better performance on this one and win the title to redeem himself from the previous fight's poor performance because his win against Wilner Soto is not enough to redeem his back to back lost against Fernando Martinez.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 25, 2023, 04:50:22 PM

So far by the results, it looks like Jerwin Ancajas is the crowd favorite here.

There are still no listing in our favorite sports bookies though, it might take some time, but I'm seeing that this is going to be very close odds as Inoue as a champion might have be the slight favorite here.

Nevertheless, we love to see that, specially backers for Jerwin as he will be a live underdog and we all know that it could be a juicy odds and a good beat for us.

The current opinion of the crowd is favors Jerwin Ancajas as compared to the Inoue.The partial opinion was favor the Inoue because of his recent matches was good compared to the Jerwin.Even though Jerwin had good past,the current match of the Jerwin was not good.Their was very close odds for both the players.So the bet should be placed on your strong opinion.Anything can be possible one in the boxing.Who know the Inoue may win the match with the little amount of the supporters and made that little people more rich.

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So far by the results, it looks like Jerwin Ancajas is the crowd favorite here.

There are still no listing in our favorite sports bookies though, it might take some time, but I'm seeing that this is going to be very close odds as Inoue as a champion might have be the slight favorite here.

Nevertheless, we love to see that, specially backers for Jerwin as he will be a live underdog and we all know that it could be a juicy odds and a good beat for us.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 25, 2023, 08:34:47 AM

On the contrary mate, Jerwin doesn't have the belt here, he has move up in weight to 118 lbs after losing back to back to Martinez (to whom he lost his belt). But he comes back in a tune up fight and won by ko/tko.

Yes, it was the younger brother of Naoya Inoue and others are comparing them. However, I do not think that Takuma possesses the same power as his brother that's why maybe Ancajas has a chance to get back that belt and become a world champion once more.

It was a good decision for Ancajas to move up, I saw how he struggled against Martinez because of the weight cut, the fatigue and lack of power caused him to lose twice against the same boxer, here in 118 lbs he is more comfortable, he is more powerful he's been complaining that he stays to long in that weight because he is the title holder back then, I hope he wins another title to carry the Philippines torch in boxing.

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He has a good chance of beating Takuma as Ancajas is still good his only 2 recent losses coms from Fernando Martinez and Martinez is way better than Takuma when it comes to power and aggressiveness, Ancajas for the record held the flyweight title for 6 years and I believe he still has what it takes to become a champion again.

And that is why this fight is very interesting, Ancajas is a former champion and has a good power. His lost to Martinez could be attributed to the fact that he can't make the 115 lbs (not excuse though, but fighters went to this hell as they have problems making weight, thus losing power and even their legs in a fight). So he is going up, so there will be no issues with his weight and so he could give Takuma a good fight and possible to win.

But seems the poll is divided amongst us.

One of the facts that gave some users here some doubts because Jerwin is not that kind of boxer who will ring a bell on their ears while Takuma, he is carrying the name of an Inoue, for which the users thought that he is like Naoya since he is carrying the same name and they are also brothers.

But if we compare it closely, Takuma is way too far from his brother's skills and comparing against Ancajas closely, unfortunately, Takuma is on the disadvantage here. Even though he is the champion, I doubt that he can still defend his belt successfully against a man who once give other boxers a hard time.

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It's about time that Jerwin left the 115 lbs division as it is obvious that he has weight issues already that's why he has back to back loses. And it's good that he had a good tune up fight and won by a knockout.
And if I'm not mistaken, Takuma is not as good as Naoya in my opinion. So it's another good chance for Ancajas to become a world champion again. I don't think that fighting in Japan will be a issue for him. It's that he needs to prepare more here and show that he can still bring honor to his country with another win in the road against another Inoue.

I'll give this fight to Jerwin, Takuma is not a superior nor an invincible fighter like his brother Naoya but he still has a homecourt advantage because he is fighting in Japan, but knowing Ancajas he is a journeyman he should prepare for this fight the Philippines only few Filipino boxers are carrying the torch since Pacquiao retire from boxing.

You are right, if we see Takuma's fight against Ouballi, he lacks the power or at least he is way below the talent of his brother and even if it is in Japan, he was beaten soundly by Nordine.

Quote from: coin-investor on August 24, 2023, 05:35:47 AM

He has a good chance of beating Takuma as Ancajas is still good his only 2 recent losses coms from Fernando Martinez and Martinez is way better than Takuma when it comes to power and aggressiveness, Ancajas for the record held the flyweight title for 6 years and I believe he still has what it takes to become a champion again.

And that is why this fight is very interesting, Ancajas is a former champion and has a good power. His lost to Martinez could be attributed to the fact that he can't make the 115 lbs (not excuse though, but fighters went to this hell as they have problems making weight, thus losing power and even their legs in a fight). So he is going up, so there will be no issues with his weight and so he could give Takuma a good fight and possible to win.

But seems the poll is divided amongst us.

You are right that mate takuma inoue us not just an easy opponent as we all know how he fight inside the ring and also we are all know that he already watch the style of ancajas cause that's the best way to defeat an opponent but for me ancajas will prove to us that he is the real champions as we all know how ancajas will fight in the ring he will become unstoppable once he had the momentum.

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Quote from: coin-investor on August 24, 2023, 05:35:47 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on August 23, 2023, 03:33:21 PM

It's about time that Jerwin left the 115 lbs division as it is obvious that he has weight issues already that's why he has back to back loses. And it's good that he had a good tune up fight and won by a knockout.
And if I'm not mistaken, Takuma is not as good as Naoya in my opinion. So it's another good chance for Ancajas to become a world champion again. I don't think that fighting in Japan will be a issue for him. It's that he needs to prepare more here and show that he can still bring honor to his country with another win in the road against another Inoue.

I'll give this fight to Jerwin, Takuma is not a superior nor an invincible fighter like his brother Naoya but he still has a homecourt advantage because he is fighting in Japan, but knowing Ancajas he is a journeyman he should prepare for this fight the Philippines only few Filipino boxers are carrying the torch since Pacquiao retire from boxing.

You are right, if we see Takuma's fight against Ouballi, he lacks the power or at least he is way below the talent of his brother and even if it is in Japan, he was beaten soundly by Nordine.

Quote from: coin-investor on August 24, 2023, 05:35:47 AM

He has a good chance of beating Takuma as Ancajas is still good his only 2 recent losses coms from Fernando Martinez and Martinez is way better than Takuma when it comes to power and aggressiveness, Ancajas for the record held the flyweight title for 6 years and I believe he still has what it takes to become a champion again.

And that is why this fight is very interesting, Ancajas is a former champion and has a good power. His lost to Martinez could be attributed to the fact that he can't make the 115 lbs (not excuse though, but fighters went to this hell as they have problems making weight, thus losing power and even their legs in a fight). So he is going up, so there will be no issues with his weight and so he could give Takuma a good fight and possible to win.

But seems the poll is divided amongst us.

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This is a good fight.

Ancajas have defended his IBF belt for 9 times which mean he was a strong boxer, but later he lose two times against Martinez make me feel he's not that strong. On the other hands Takuma ever lose once against Nordine Oubaali, one of the best boxer at that time, so it's still understandable.

I don't expect KO in this match, so I guess Takuma will win via decision.

Jerwin Ancajas might have more chances in this fight than we thought because aside from having more experience against the young Inoue, the former champion also has the reach and height advantage which we know that is really useful to the boxer specially if they know how to utilize their advantages. This might be a division for the Inoues but Jerwin is also a different animal, in-fact, he already had his debut at 188 earlier this June and had a TKO win.

Yes, I think we could give Jerwin a change against Takuma Inoue. He is known to be a heavy puncher at 115 lbs, and in fact he has defended his IBF belt for 9 times before losing to the upcoming Martinez. And in the rematch, for me it is very obvious that Jerwin had a hard time making that weight anymore and so it's a good choice for him to go up at 118 lbs specially that the monster is no longer on that weight class. Although he has to fight his brother, but i will vote for Ancajas to win this fight.

Not to underestimate Takuma Inoue but he is built different from Naoya and unlike the latter, Takuma is not a fast and a heavy hitter which will give Ancajas a good chance to upset the champion. I know it's early to say that Ancajas might redeem the throne but I'm confident to say that he got way more chances in this fight against Takuma and yes, that experience alone will speak for Ancajas on why he got a good chance in this fight.

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